Extremely good and detailed explanations especially on the items that I haven't yet seen anywhere. Thanks for all the info for us noobs, its much easier to understand the complexity when somebody explains instead of reading the texts. Keep it up, its great!
I've started building Malignance in those games where we are perma fighting and fights are rough, usually I've got something like Liandries + Jaksho and/or Frozen Heart and then Malignance to give me that ultimate haste and mana if I also don't need Riftmaker because fights are super burst heavy. I don't build Rylays much, and Cosmic Drive is also pretty rare for me, but that's because I tend to favor tank items besides Liandries + Riftmaker. Secondary runes I've settled for Transcendence + Gathering Storm to give me more haste and scaling from runes, but then I'm a low elo scrub and games that we don't ff tend to go above 30 minutes.
Nefore the season started i figured that liandries and riftmaker was going to be a fantastic combo. Seeing that be agreed on makes me feel like I am improving!
Some interesting thoughts. I've been running blue smite but I'll swap to red now. Also need to delay my Deathcap purchase and look more into Rylay/Cosmic third with some magic pen fourth. I've never actually built Stormsurge on any champion. Is the tank build now Liandries into Frozen Heart / Jaksho, and the RoA build is dead?
Great guide! I remember on stream you mentioned that going Frozen Heart 2nd item may be good since it's so cheap. Do you still think this has a place? I'm thinking it might be able to catch you up if you're behind, especially vs heavy AD. But it is delaying riftmaker or Jaksho, which may always be bad. PS - I had my first hypercarry game as Lillia the other day. 2 of my lanes were lost by 15 mins. I farmed, counterganked/jungled where I could and got some big shutdowns to claw back into it. ended up going 25-3-12 and getting the W. Never carried like that before, it's definitely thanks to your teachings and trying to apply some of it. Keep up the good work bro
Thanks for the kind words, the item guide should be seen as flexible and I would say there are situations where you can go fh 2nd and plenty of other things as well. Just keep thinking about what items are best in each situation and you will get good at adapting every game :D
I think you can also buy cryptbloom in some games, yeah this give less ability power and less penetration than void staff but the price and the Cdr, that got removed has been removed from most items Lillia makes and also his passive the heal worth the item (At least i think)
The healing is weird and wont consistently win you games. If you need the magic pen, go for void over cryptbloom every time. If you dont need the pen, go something else like deathcap.
Thank you for this guide :) I was wondering why you don't get celerity with waterwalking / nimbus cloak on the 2d sorcery tree for runes ? They seem so fitting for Lillia :o
I don’t think they’re necessary on lillia since you have true damage in your kit and max health damage which is enough shred. I prefer defensive boots or lucidity
I used this video to report Lillia's stupid "E" bug to support. At 9:43 there is an example, it legit goes the opposite direction you throw it and it happens fairly often.
so the whole part about rylais, tank items like frozen heart and so on AND shadowflame was all the third item?? cus you said "okay for 4th item go stormsurge". So you said for Rylais and Shadowflame the same about "if ure crazy ahead"? I'm bit confused. Or was the Tankitem/shadowflame talk more in general, and not for 3th slot?
So I looked at one of the new items unending despair and it seems like old jak’sho to me. Apparently it can proc on liandry’s and I assume lillia burn. Thoughts on maybe using this for conditioning/overheal lilia?
Riot just announced nerfs for Riftmaker, Frozen Heart and Stormsurge for the next patch (no numbers yet, but Stormsurge is going to receive a huge nerf). I know it's too early to start thinking how to change her build, but do you think any of those 3 items are in the chopping block based on the fact they're gonna get nerfed?
It’s not really worth building on lillia even if it’s cheap because her other items are so strong. If i need heal cut i will build oblivion orb but ideally someone else should get it
Looking only at statistics, seems Malignance is not working very well on Lillia, especialy third or fourth item. Cosmic Drive and Mejai are very good. Jaksho only if you are desperate. You do never recomend magic pen boots?
Malignance is definitely a bait item on her. You will need some sort of defensive item 3rd after liandries/rift core most games. Best options are zhonyas (versus hard engage/cc chains/burst comps) or rylais (vs melee). Only other viable 3rd item is void staff if they are all stacking mr. If you havent won the game after 3 items just go deathcap/void for dmg or maybe jaksho for survivability
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Extremely good and detailed explanations especially on the items that I haven't yet seen anywhere. Thanks for all the info for us noobs, its much easier to understand the complexity when somebody explains instead of reading the texts. Keep it up, its great!
Thank you for this guide ! Your channel is amazing
I've started building Malignance in those games where we are perma fighting and fights are rough, usually I've got something like Liandries + Jaksho and/or Frozen Heart and then Malignance to give me that ultimate haste and mana if I also don't need Riftmaker because fights are super burst heavy.
I don't build Rylays much, and Cosmic Drive is also pretty rare for me, but that's because I tend to favor tank items besides Liandries + Riftmaker. Secondary runes I've settled for Transcendence + Gathering Storm to give me more haste and scaling from runes, but then I'm a low elo scrub and games that we don't ff tend to go above 30 minutes.
Currently building dark seal, sorce boots, liandrys, riftmaker and rylai/shadowflame/zonhyas depending on what I feel I need
Nefore the season started i figured that liandries and riftmaker was going to be a fantastic combo. Seeing that be agreed on makes me feel like I am improving!
Some interesting thoughts. I've been running blue smite but I'll swap to red now. Also need to delay my Deathcap purchase and look more into Rylay/Cosmic third with some magic pen fourth. I've never actually built Stormsurge on any champion. Is the tank build now Liandries into Frozen Heart / Jaksho, and the RoA build is dead?
Great guide! I remember on stream you mentioned that going Frozen Heart 2nd item may be good since it's so cheap. Do you still think this has a place? I'm thinking it might be able to catch you up if you're behind, especially vs heavy AD. But it is delaying riftmaker or Jaksho, which may always be bad.
PS - I had my first hypercarry game as Lillia the other day. 2 of my lanes were lost by 15 mins. I farmed, counterganked/jungled where I could and got some big shutdowns to claw back into it. ended up going 25-3-12 and getting the W. Never carried like that before, it's definitely thanks to your teachings and trying to apply some of it. Keep up the good work bro
Thanks for the kind words, the item guide should be seen as flexible and I would say there are situations where you can go fh 2nd and plenty of other things as well. Just keep thinking about what items are best in each situation and you will get good at adapting every game :D
I think you can also buy cryptbloom in some games, yeah this give less ability power and less penetration than void staff but the price and the Cdr, that got removed
has been removed from most items Lillia makes and also his passive the heal worth the item (At least i think)
It’s a potential 4th or 5th item, i haven’t tested it yet but i can see it being decent
The healing is weird and wont consistently win you games. If you need the magic pen, go for void over cryptbloom every time. If you dont need the pen, go something else like deathcap.
Thoughts on Cosmic drive and Cryptbloom as second and this item? Been working for me so far:)
Not my first choice items but its still early in the season and I will try them
18:18 this fight was insane! i thought you were going to die for sure
Thank you for this guide :) I was wondering why you don't get celerity with waterwalking / nimbus cloak on the 2d sorcery tree for runes ? They seem so fitting for Lillia :o
Thank you! Because you want cosmic inspirstipn for faster flash cooldown
Great video once again!
Thank you!
thanks for the guide!! :)
For boots what are your thoughts on Sorcerer's Shoes. I was typically building that for Lillia but noticed you didn't mention them.
I don’t think they’re necessary on lillia since you have true damage in your kit and max health damage which is enough shred. I prefer defensive boots or lucidity
I used this video to report Lillia's stupid "E" bug to support. At 9:43 there is an example, it legit goes the opposite direction you throw it and it happens fairly often.
Oh wait this is a bug? I had this also sometimes, but I always thought I somehow fucked up and accidentally threw it to Narnia.. xD
Any thoughts about cosmic drive?
Only bad ones
Thanks for the guide. :) I am curious about jak'sho. Is bruiser Lillia as a main playstyle viable?
It’s not bad if you’re going a more tank heavy build. I would say it’s not as strong as before but for sure still viable
so the whole part about rylais, tank items like frozen heart and so on AND shadowflame was all the third item?? cus you said "okay for 4th item go stormsurge". So you said for Rylais and Shadowflame the same about "if ure crazy ahead"? I'm bit confused. Or was the Tankitem/shadowflame talk more in general, and not for 3th slot?
If you are confused look at the full build graphic at the end of the video. Each slot is shown with potential builds.
So I looked at one of the new items unending despair and it seems like old jak’sho to me. Apparently it can proc on liandry’s and I assume lillia burn. Thoughts on maybe using this for conditioning/overheal lilia?
I’ll look into it 🫡
Riot just announced nerfs for Riftmaker, Frozen Heart and Stormsurge for the next patch (no numbers yet, but Stormsurge is going to receive a huge nerf).
I know it's too early to start thinking how to change her build, but do you think any of those 3 items are in the chopping block based on the fact they're gonna get nerfed?
i appreciate it bro
What do you think about morrellos only 2200 gold
Only good when the enemy team is building life steal. It's pretty moot otherwise imo
It’s not really worth building on lillia even if it’s cheap because her other items are so strong. If i need heal cut i will build oblivion orb but ideally someone else should get it
what about cosmic drive?
I’m still testing it but I’m not a huge fan
Looking only at statistics, seems Malignance is not working very well on Lillia, especialy third or fourth item. Cosmic Drive and Mejai are very good. Jaksho only if you are desperate. You do never recomend magic pen boots?
You dont need malignance you have enough mana without it its beter to opt for more dmg
Malignance is definitely a bait item on her. You will need some sort of defensive item 3rd after liandries/rift core most games. Best options are zhonyas (versus hard engage/cc chains/burst comps) or rylais (vs melee). Only other viable 3rd item is void staff if they are all stacking mr. If you havent won the game after 3 items just go deathcap/void for dmg or maybe jaksho for survivability
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