The Brilliant Deception of Inception - Wisecrack Edition
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Welcome to a special edition of 8-Bit Philosophy, where we take a look at whether films are dreams. Is the film just using cinematic technique or is it trying to tell us something more? This week - Inception: Are Films Dreams?
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Inception's plot is actually straight-forward and doesn't "lie" about when they are dreaming vs. the real world. What's brilliant about it is it incepts the idea that he isn't in reality at the end (even though he is), by planting the seed of the idea with the spinning top, JUST AS COBB DID WITH HIS WIFE. The audience ends up with the same affliction as she does-questioning the reality of the film, and coming up with elaborate and convoluted theories to support the idea that he's still in a dream. But there is no logical reason to believe he's still dreaming; the spinning top is the only reason we start doubting (if he hasn't spun the top and just went straight outside to see his kids, we wouldn't wonder if it's still a dream). Just like Cobb's wife had no logical reasons to doubt reality, only the nagging idea left behind from the spinning top in their dream.
This is the best thing about Inception; Nolan pulled off an inception on the audience, just as Cobb pulled it off on his wife.
+Sara E. Mayhew "You don't really want to know, you want to be fooled."
+Sara E. Mayhew , actually... this film is very dishonest.
Brainwashing only works if the victim is convinced to be.
It's part of the reason why people hate Star Wars 7 and do not know why.
+CommandoXProductions People liked TFA while watching it, but then started disliking it when they left the theatre, lol. "The dream seems real when you're in it."
Another Inception/film parallel; good movies immerse you, and you don't realize the implausibilities until you leave the theatre "wake up" and realize some things wouldn't really happen. Bad movies take you out of the story with their flaws and you "realize you're dreaming", you're subconscious starts attacking the plot the more things become unbelievable.
+Arashmickey the ending of my favorite movie of all time,also made by Nolan...nice one
Ah!
The whole point of the final shot wasn't whether or not the top falls; it's that Cob walked away because it didn't matter anymore.
Yeah, I found the whole movie to be pretty straightforward. If you've spend a bit of time with the subject matter before.
This video pretty much lines up completely with my own interpretation. The only sensible thing to do when questioning reality is to stop worrying and just walk away from the question.
Its because for him finding out reality was seeing his kids faces.
When his wife top was her way of finding reality.
Yep, I argue this every time this movie has come up. Cobb stopped caring what was real. He just wanted to be with "his kids".
Yeah, just like in life you van wonder whether you're dreaming, o really alive at all. but with no way of knowing, you're wasting your time caring. for me, this film is about reminding yourself to live in the present and enjoy your time alive, not in fantasy or doubt
Yeah I like that conclusion but in my opinion I think it wasn't dream because the kids were slightly older and he saw their faces unlike his other dreams where they were always had their back facing him
The fact that we're still talking about this film 10 years later is an accomplishment in itself.
julia evans Nolan movies refuse to age. The only get better.
I just watched it again for the first time in years, and it’s honestly even better than I remember.
Undisputed classic.
@The Laughing Man You're making it sound like Nolan just ripped off an anime movie just cause it came first.
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Let me tell you something you're not gonna believe:
Different people can have the same idea without ever knowing it... wow, that's crazy right ?
It's almost like nothing in the 21st century has been completely original on it's own.
The Laughing Man paprika didn’t come out until 2006, Nolan first came up with the idea for inception in 2000...
Because he ends the movie where the story keeps going on.
2:33 Also, you arrive in the middle of life as well. You don't remember the beginning.
+cortster12 WOW! that is deep...
+cortster12 *Head explodes*
+cortster12 Also you wake up in your bedroom everyday, you dont remember the beginning. LOL
Ben noneofyourbeeswax You are correct.
+cortster12 in the words of neo "woah"
I always thought the reason Mal messed up everything was to make it look like a fight and being on the other building would prevent him from stopping her so his only choice would be to jump with her.
AGREED. Not sure why that scene keeps getting brought up as evidence to imply he's dreaming. From a reasonable height she could jump from either building and hit center street; and the destroyed room is further motivation for him to "join" her or risk implication in her death. This is the impetus for the entire plot.
Yeah remember the part where Cobb says everyone thinks he killed her?? Maybe that was her intention...
no shit? i thought this was obvious...
I never thought of Mal's window as being in another building. I figured it was a U-shaped suite.
But then, I live near the Mayflower, which is a former hotel (now an apartment building) which has a U-shaped section.
+WakernerOne how does no-one else get this?
Another awesome metaphor in the movie is their team: They've got a director, an architect/ set builder, a writer, a producer, a special effects guy, a big company executive who pulls the strings in the background.
Also the main mechanic in dreams is another interesting similarity: They need to suggest reality so the dreamer (the audience) stays immersed and invested in the world that's been created. When the subconscious of the dreamer (the audience) smells something fishy, aka doesn't believe the dream (film), then they get mad and everything was for nothing. At one point Cob makes use of a dangerous tactic: He purposefully brakes immersion and tells their subject, that he's dreaming. He's breaking the 4th wall at that moment: Something that can be fun in a lot of scenarios, but can also make the movie fail if done poorly. The idea of inception itself (making the dreamer/ the audience feel like they themselves uncovered a mystery or had an idea) could also be considered part of movie-making.
Agreed , +DeliciousDishes and I am OK with this.
People who read through fiction as if it was scholastic,
gospel-truth are the most unbearable strangers.
Critical thinking should be fun, not divisive.
I should not have to worry about Muslims stabbing me over this.
DeliciousDishes nice
I just remember 12 year old me coming out of the theater and telling my dad "That's the first movie that ever made me think."
12? I said that to my Mom after we walked out and I was 7, you are of average intelligence my friend.
Richard Howle that’s not very nice.. the movie just came out late for them
@@maramardhiah My comment went right over you're head.
Richard Howle sorry if i misunderstood
This film has probably given me the best cinema experience thus far.
except for the matrix
@@AverageAlien I was too young to see that one in the movies at the time but i can imagine :D saw it at a friends house l8r and liked the end of course where neo was whooping all ass ;)
I think the reason we accept the time jumps in films are because we can just about fill in the details for ourselves between scenes...
Ends up in a new city? Bought a plane ticket and hopped on board. Maybe had a nap and ate in between.
Back at home from being at a local cafe? Walked or drove a few blocks to get there...
Same with our dreams... ended up at your crushes house? Was invited and went their.
Whether the two are connected due to conditioning? Idk but our dreams could allow us to film in such a manner
Very true. Just like dreams, we are only shown what is seemingly relevant. Brilliant point about the conditioning.
"Hopefully this video gave you some kind of peace, we'll never really know what's a dream and what's not" Well, that doesn't sound like peace to me...
Movie sucks
wtf did you just do to me?
+NastyFUHKER LOL! = : )
i feel like I'm being violated by mind fucks
+Auxemplary Wake up Neo.
+Mike Marks The reason we all be mind-fucked is because how ignorant and lazy we are in seeking the truth that is an illusion. Go back to sleep and enjoy your life lol. The more you know the less you feel happy... Bruhhhhh.
Zhang Yang haha ignorant and proud
So in the end of the film we know with absolute certainty Cobb is really in a dream since he is in a film and films are in fact dreams. Every time you re watch the film his children will never get older.
Idk why but this comment did a better job at giving me peace abt the ending than the video itself
I love "In the Blink of an Eye", it changes how you think about film editing
Nolan is by far the best director alive. A freaking genius!
i know it's late but lol
So this video is a conception about the brilliant deception of inception so I wonder how people's reception will be to this video which you made not about games but as an exception
Tion tion tion tion.... 🤔
my reception is that the film inception is perhaps just a story in motion and not a metaphoric notion
Anti-Gravity i feel like people are street rapping Yo!....
Dropped the Beat!!! Yeah yeah yo yo yoh....
My perception of the reception of Inception's deception is that it's a misconception. Inception is about not having hesitation to use contraception without exception. That's what those kids are all about
you just gave me an erection
This is my favourite film of all time. I remember just being completely blown away the first time I watched it
Another detail is when Arthur shows Ariadne the stairs paradox, the seen is calm with no action yet, and they are going up the stairs, but in the third act, he does the same thing while going down the stairs, the scene is very intense, this highlights the structure of a typical movie, the rising action, and the falling action.
Great video, and analogy.
And the ((Dream or not a Dream)) question has been basically answered with Cobb's Ring. His Ring is his Totem. It appears when he's in a dream, and disappears when he's awake. And in the end, there is no Ring.
When you told about Inception being Nolan's most personal film yet, I couldn't agree. See, this is Nolan's most professional movie as it says about how movies trick us into forgetting the reality for a moment.
I'll watch any video about Inceptiom
5:20 - Eames clearly states that Saito was "tailing" Cobb. "This is your idea of losing a tail?" Missed it a second time, Wisecrack. Though everyone else seems to as well.
Yeah and cobb tersely replied that he was trying to lose a different tail.
While Saito is tailing Cobb, your example is wrong. Saito is the one to state that he wanted to ensure Cobb's safety. Eames was mocking the fact that the plan was to lose the person they spotted tailing Cobb in the bar and meet up elsewhere, but instead Cobb pulls up with his employer, someone ridiculously rich and powerful, to pick up Eames. Eames is not clearly stating Saito was tailing him, but he seems to ask Cobb why this extremely rich and powerful man is picking him up personally, assuming he hasn't told Eames at this point what the job is specifically and who it's for. The audience can guess Eames is questioning if this man was following Cobb, and even possibly infer Eames was trying to test Cobb's reaction to see if it was safe to join.
Ariadne is actually easily my favorite female character in cinemas. I was well aware her character was used to fill in a lot of the exposition, but I thought they did so and extremely natural and impressive performance that never took me out of it
The real question is: why is the Man of Steel theme playing in the background?
Cannon Productions haha good question
Hans zimmer is the best composer
Because is freaking awesome!
check release date of both
The thing I haven't seen anyone debunk is that the top wobbles right before it cuts to black, it doesn't wobble in a dream.
It's kind of necessary for the ambiguity though; if it didn't wobble it would seem too clear-cut that Cobb is in fact dreaming. I agree that it's a bit imperfect, but I don't see how else Nolan could have done it.
To me the wobble is clear evidence he is not. Especially for a movie where we are taught how important the totem is and how important he sees it.
I have considered though that perhaps since that was Mol's totem that he corrupted it by messing with it and in his mind even in a dream it can topple and wobble. Perhaps by corrupting the totem it is no longer a valid test.
Inception is a masterpiece!
Inception is one of my favorite movies of all time. A great mix of great action and a wonderfully complex plot.
You didn't talk about Cobb's wedding ring? That makes the ending clear and not ambiguous at all.
Many people speak about this theory, but this detail might be un important, cause the actor simply could forget to wear the ring. To totem is going to fell at the end - this is very clear evidence.
Those upcoming episodes can't come soon enough! Really looking forward to them. Keep up the great work, Wisecrack You are definitely my newest favorite channel!
That Hans Zimmer music is so good. And I mean the Inception and Sherlock Holmes music in the video.
In joker's word, "sometimes i remember it in one way sometimes in another".
Even we don't know when we start knowing. How we came to life.
And most important is, are our memories really real...???
I da just thought abt this question too. You could wake up and think everything is normal, but your memories could be fake. You wouldn’t know they’re fake because to you, you *remember* them and you trust your own brain. You could wake up one day and think everything is normal when you’re actually not even in reality and your memories are all fabricated. You’d never know the difference.
And shoutout for the other channels you guys support. I really appreciate the work that you guys and the other channels including nerdwriter, school of life, and every frame a painting are doing. I've learned a ton from all of these channels.
Phenomenal job in this analysis. When it first came out I had made references to its commentary on how films are made but this explanation basically put all of those thoughts and more into one place. The only criticism I have is of your skepticism of Mal's trashing the hotel room. Her intentions in that scene were to make it look like Cobb had forced her off the edge after an altercation. She also states that she filed paperwork with a lawyer and claimed she feared for her life. Knowing that only jail time would follow him in that world given those circumstances she thought she would free him from the dream she believed they were still in. Also it's possible the two windows were part of the same building. Sometimes entrances are in the center and cut inward toward the structure which would leave a separation like the one seen in the film. Those are just nitpicky things though. The overall analysis was unbelievably well organized and concise
I'm pretty sure that dreams are influenced more by TV and movies than the other way around for example the amount of people who dreamed in colour before colour TV and movies were the major and when they became widely available and that number started and still continues to decline. I personally don't often have hard cuts in my dreams and it more follows the logic of video games as when I'm not looking at something unless it has a specific reason to such as a character talking then It doesn't exist and can be completely overwritten when I turn back. Basically you can say that films and other visual mediums have things in common with dreams but you cannot use that to form anything but a correlation and at least as far as I know the evidence of a causal link goes clearly from media to dreams.
+TheNejD , the entire "Chupacabra" mythos is built around that point that drunk people still do not understand because it reminds them that alcohol is bad and that conflicts with their addiction bias. We can say the same about "BigFeet".
rationalwiki.org/wiki/Chupacabra
Hi Wisecrack,
I found your idea really interesting and I'd like to add my pinch of salt. I believe another hint to make the film itself feel like a dream is that the characters are dreaming about themselves - in another role. The scene where the first dream collapses, and Leo DiCaprio blankly stares at the ceiling crushed by water reminds us of Titanic, right ? But also the alarm song, from Edith Piaf - Marion Cotillard played Edith Piaf herself. Cillian Murphy was stuck in a plane during the whole movie Red Eye, just like he is here before being in a dream. Should I go on ? Well I can't, because my filmographic culture stops there, haha. I'm so sorry. I've never seen that theory explored before though...
I love these analysis videos. It inspires me to go more into depth when creating my films.
loving this series keep them coming im binging on them right now
Inb4 "How is this 8bit philosophy" comments!
I miss Disembodied British Voice
+Danny Vasquez but... how is this 8bit philosophy?
+Ron Nickels Same.
Andy G I don't care. I just wanted to be in4 it :P
Rene Hourian Also, same.
I hear man of steel in the background
+ZombryaTheDark and Sherlock Holmes with Robert Downy Jr.
check release date of both movies
Thanks you so much! I've recently rewatched this movie and it gives me a lot of questions. Omg. Your video is just at the right moment of need of me.
You guys are making me write a list of movies that I need to watch. I need to put all this down just so I can watch all of these movies. Great video though! I loved the concept.
The world of cinema is so filled with riches and contains such rewards that if you're stopping to pay a great deal of attention to Christopher Nolan's Inception, that's lovely and all, but I might say, um... "keep going".
There over a century of (mostly) celluloidic canon to relish; several hundred films released over the globe each year, and somehow to stop here, at Nolan Burger, may be to still unknowingly be in the cinematic strip mall and have so much more to enjoy, discover and experience ahead of you.
+SimplyGimpy
We... we have to go deeper?
Daniel gets it. We do to go have derper.
Nolan=overrated blockbusterer director. The fact that my favorite channel gave this much attention to nolan saddens me
+Mert Su Marrying a modicum of intellectually stimulating themes and ideas with a format not only accessible to the masses, but highly enjoyable by them, all while achieving commercial and critical succes, is far greater of an achievement than doing 'proper cinéma'. Nolan may be a better project manager than a movie director, and Inception does have its flaws, but this is still a movie to be celebrated instead of looked down upon. Specially when so many people dismiss it right away, either for being too 'deep' or not 'deep' at all.
+SimplyGimpy I would agree that Inception maybe isn't the most interesting movie for thorough analysis, since it's pretty straightforward, but I think it's definitely worth analyzing, as it deals with philosophical dilemmas in rather clever and original fashion. (at least for a blockbuster) Yes, it's not the most multi-layered film and it's definitely an easily accessible scifi action blockbuster, but I don't see how that in any way lessens it's worth as a film. It's okay to say that you don't like the film but I can't stand people saying: "That's so mainstream, go watch something more meaningful."
I always try to encourage people to be more open minded and more adventurous, to explore new movies and genres, and I don't think panning movies, that clearly stand out from your standard summer blockbuster and implying that your taste is somehow superior is a way to go about it.
HEY, GUYS! I GOT IT. WHAT IF INCEPTION... IS... A MOVIE??????
*gasps*
+Andreas Nordvall So, we should never talk about movies and have fun thinking about them? If you say so.
+Andreas Nordvall What point are you trying to make?
You mean the story alone is supposed to entertain us? Yeah right.
Obviously the movie is about books because books are like dreams. Devilishly clever!
If the writers and directors are paid so much $, why assume they don't write films involving deeper meaning and philosophy? Most of them didn't reach the top of the food chain for nothing- they strike a chord with us.
This is actually a very clever theory and I'm trying to wrap my head around how you actually came up with it. Keep it up!!
Maybe Mal was the one who was right and the only one to actually wake up when she jumped off the building, while nothing could wrentch Cobb from the gripping reality of his dream world, though Mal tried and tried. Just like Ariadne came back to work with them, because nothing could be as alluring as "pure creation" (movie quote), maybe Cobb himself couldn't leave the dream world anymore after a certain point. And, like it's been pointed out many times, the whole movie is a string of Cobb's dreams.
Brilliant video!
So when did 8-bit philosophy turn to 8mm philosophy. Did the voice over guy die or something?
Nathan Lowe, whose velvety voice graces 8-Bit, is alive and well, and we have some great episodes coming up with him and everyone's favorite graphics.
+Wisecrack thank you, dear uploader.
+LockSmithNinja RIGHT! Don't call this 8-Bit Philosophy, just call it something different.
+Wisecrack With that problem taken care of, can the name "8mm philosophy" be taken into consideration for what would be 8-bit philosophy videos that just so happens to be about cinema. It's not a necessary change nor one that really changes anything significant but it just seems like an opportunity too good to pass up.
+Wisecrack So we just call anything 8-bit now? Glad my 8-bit movie theater is playing 8-bit star wars so i can make an 8-bit review for the 8-bit youtube.
I don't think it's a different building Mal is in. It's a suite, so it may just wrap around like that, as some hotels do. It was a similar design in Taken, where the apartment wrapped around and you could see it as a U shape.
bahaanaldo Not to mention she could’ve just scooted along the ledge. I think this video’s conclusion of renting another room is the silliest conclusion they could’ve made
your network is becoming pretty much all i watch in yt, +tytnews and "inanutshell".School of life is one of my favs, and nerdwriter is awesome, thanks a the recomendations, and the great content.
Yes! I love stuff like this, just thinking outside the box and being open minded to everything. The intricacies of the mind and how it is interpreted in so many different ways. Dreams are such a beautiful thing. I experience so often that I sometimes I'll mix them with memories I thought I had or even dejavu if I may. It all comes down to philosophy. Which is simplistic yet complex all together and that is what I love the most about it.
this is both dream and reality because the brain never sleeps and people can day dream and each character could be a personality of each person has in phycology .
That movie was amazing! One of the best in my opinion.
Really well done, I quite enjoyed this. The point of the ending though isn't whether or not it's a dream, it's the fact that he has his kids again and doesn't care if it's a dream or reality, he is finally happy. That's why he walks away before his totem tells him one way or another, because really what does it matter either way? If one is happy why should it matter what or how it is achieved.
Best analysis yet by Wisecracks!
'Rick and Morty - The Cob Planet' knows the truth :D
At the beginning I was just like "welcome to frame by frame" xD
+Sakura Drawing Pencil yeah me too
2:35 I thought of this when the trailer was released.
Also Mal being on the other window ledge ties into misremembering the past.
Nice! Thanks for pointing these things out! It was my feeling, too, that the experience of watching this movie, itself, was like experiencing a dream. After it was done, I found myself wondering what had happened and started questioning the inconsistencies...kind of like you would when you wake from a dream. I was like, "Wait. That couldn't happen." Anyway, nice analysis.
When you are a child, you ask people, "can you tell me a story?"
When you grow up, you do the same thing with Netflix.
You even like to fall asleep to Netflix just like you liked to fall asleep to your parents/grandparents stories.
Can you analyze Mad Men please?
Not a bad idea!
Shoutout to The School of Life at the end! Seriously amazing channel
This was so good. Great video essay. One of the better videos on film this channel has done. Please, please consider Fury, Her and Ex Machina
everyone goes on about how inception was a mind fuck. when really it just finished open ended.
does it matter if he's in a dream or not when he's ultimately doesn't care himself? he leaves the table top spinning because ignorance is bliss. as far as he's concerned he's paying happy family with his children, that's his reality. if the table top falls over, that's great. but if it doesn't he's got to live through life knowing he's in a false reality and he'll never see his children, friends and family again.
ignorance is bliss. reality is what you make of it.
I know people like to try and solve mysteries, but truth to inception is in the spinning table top, and you'll never see it fall. because it's a movie, aka Christopher's dream for us all to see.
Do Ex Machina!
Definitely earned my subscription. Nice work.
Exposition is fine if it feels organic. You never really feel like theyre really talking to you. Thats how I felt watching it
I think you did it to illustrate a point, but Mauve (maude?) Leo's wife DID go apeshit on that room. And she did gain access to that other room, because it is explained later that it was an elaborate setup to frame him. I'm wondering if people watch these movies at all.
You're automatically assuming that Cobb is not dreaming at that specific time. For all we know, Mal could've been right about Cobb needing to wake up and the entire movie is a dream with all the characters being projections of Cobb's subconscious. Besides, how many hotels do you know have an identical building across the street with the same exact room structure?
I agree with others that the point is kind of moot as to weather it's a dream or not on that level and that the elusiveness of that question is what makes it work so good. On the other hand I like to think that this particular scene was real. Only cause I thought it was brilliant writing, and hit's harder if it's real.
Ok so 8-bit philosophy has turned into:
"not really 8-bit philosophy more like general philosophy with video games...ok sometimes video games but...Idk"
Great thoughts. I think you made a pretty good case for your argument. The sound effect at 6:17 cracked me up.
I absolutely loved this episode!!! Personally I like it much more than the 8-bit analysis about videogames.
Who's re-watching this because you had an inception of inception?
Breakdown of spec ops the line?
One of our writers just played it and his mind was blown. So maybe?
It's a great movie, I watched is twice to better understand what was going on. I don't really think much about the ending. I figured Nolan pretty much left it up to each person to decide. Fantastic stuff, really enjoying your content.
Loveeeeeeeee this!!!!!!!! Thank u 💕💕💕💕. Inception is my favorite film so I appreciate this video 😭😭
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What happened to Fourth? I have sent a search party of Seventh through two thousand and fifteenth to search for him!
One place you didn't visit where memories. Try to remember Thursday November 22 2001. How many of you can even tell if it was a Thursday and not a Tuesday. It seems like a rather important date to remember since it was Thanksgiving but how many of us can remember what color our socks where or how many times we visited the bathroom? Yet I'm sure the majority has vivid memories from days before that thanksgiving. The way we store memories correlates with the way we tell stories, we dream and the way movies are made. They are all part on how our brain works. Weaving a reality from many feelings and memories. Inception main question is are you real is this all a dream?
David Quintana my nigga I wasn’t even alive
You’re assuming we were alive then/celebrate Thanksgiving.
Not everyone is an American baby boomer 😬
Well done video. Liked it alot.
WOW! And I just thought nothing could mess up my brain harder than the actual movie did. Congrats on that Wisecrack!
Why is the Man of Steel soundtrack playing beneath this? Lol
Austin Nwachukwu which part?
Austin Nwachukwu why not?
not only man of steel, sherlock holmes at the start too
I asked the same thing lol
Allright, I'll say it once and only once: split what you're doing in two series. This is not 8-bit philosophy literally, neither what I know as 8-bit philosophy. For exemple, 8-bit philosophy/pop culture philosophy (I'm not so good at names).
But honestly, every time I see 8-bit philosophy on this kind of videos i feel betrayed and is false advertisement. By no means stop making content, I'll just appreciate not to be lied to.
Hey Manuel, sorry about that. The short answer is we're working on it. 8-Bit videos aren't going anywhere, and we have some in the pipeline. We're also figuring out the best way to make these videos about TV/cinema/new games into its own series.
Don't get me wrong, I love your videos, and I believe that otherwise you have well defined series that may attract different publics, or the same individuals but going at them with different mindsets.
+Wisecrack Renaming the video to NOT have "8-bit" in it is SOOOO difficult. Glad you're "working on it."
Awesome video, I've read In the Blink of an Eye, and it is an essential handbook of film theory for the up-and-coming video editor.
And of course the uncertainty of Inception's ending isn't an accident or even a tease. It is a reference to philosophical skepticism, dating (as you said in the Earthling cinema video) back to Descartes and beyond.
Hell, the question can even be (and is) raised in philosophy about how we can be certain anything exists beyond the self... which brings us into the tricky philosophical rut of Solipsism.
He is awake, his son is wearing a (slightly) different shirt at the end of the movie, but you're video blew my mind.
Why has 8bit Phil changed so much? The intro/content & the guy doing it are not nearly as good...
+Tyler M I really liked the video game aspect, but I suppose it was hard work to keep it up.
Yes, I agree. I think the guy from school of life used to do these videos, now this 'dude' is on the job. Reminds me of the switch from jon stewart to the new guy on the daily show, from an awesome show, to a shit show in the blink of an eye.
You can't spell Inception without Paprika.
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Satoshi Kon
Everybody keeps saying that "we will never know if it was a dream or not" that I'm started to question my memory. I clearly remember taking some time to leave the theater and hear the answer for this question. After the credits roll, you can hear the spinning top fall. I felt relieved to receive an answer and not having to choose my ending.
This was great. Subscribed
I liked the video, but these videos by Jared should really be divorced from the 8-Bit Philisophy series - this is hardly related to philosophy in any way (this channel shouldn't spread misconceptions about what philosophy really is, neither should it water down the term), nor does it have any 8-bit aesthetic.
+Dan Bondarenko
So.... what's philosophy?
Daniel Gehring In my very limited understanding, philosophy is the name we give to the systematic and analytic way of answering questions which cannot be answered empirically. These questions often relate to (but are not limited to) issues about the nature of reality, existence, knowledge, values, reason, mind, and language.
+Dan Bondarenko And that can't be used to think about a movie's ending somehow? This video fits the criteria in the end, he is using a systematic and analytical way of answering questions (whether it was a dream, whether the film is following the logic of dreams to enthrall the viewer or is simply using editing tricks to the same effect) which cannot be answered empirically.
I felt honored to be listening to the actual founder of the channel. For some reason you're kind of a celeb to me lol. Just love this channel.
That score gets me hyped like crazy
I think I just love this channel for confirming/reaffirming the shit running around in my head and presenting it in such a slick and organised way. Film and game deserve intelligent analysis as intelligent works. They are not 'beneath' this level of thinking, because of the (sadly oft-dismissed) thinking that goes into their inception. Any work originating from the human mind is, to an extent, a reflection of it, therefore we are almost duty-bound to understand the psyche to fully appreciate the work and its relation to other narratives, therefore revealing even more about us, the myth-makers.
I'm a firm(ish) 'believer' in Irony. Humans are great for recognising patterns and symbolism. Hence why art imitates life imitates art imitates life and so on. Everything is, really, either a parody or an homage to the everything before it.
I'm also a firm believer that this channel and School of Life produce perhaps the best content on UA-cam. I'm very glad that you guys are collaborating.
This was a great video. Thank you.
Best channel ever!
This video reminded me of the movie "Hugo". The movie had a director that equates movies as dreams and instead of saying that he makes films, he says he makes dreams. I think that was a missed opportunity. You could've gotten some footage or quotes from it.
Reminds me of in movies when it seems like there is no way out of a situation, someone will say "i have a plan". The pan is obviously gonna work because it says so in the script
I remember waking up from bed one time back when I was 8 (the movie wasnt released yet) and thinking clearly to myself: 'everything beyond this point in time is a dream. When I die ill either wake up in this room or in a hospital'. 10 years later and I still believe that.
I never doubted that he came back to the reality by the very fact that the top wobbles. Though it never touches the side, the wobbling alone is enough to prove it because while he is in the dream, the top never wobbles at all.
7:30 I do love a nice awkward audio insert lol
I think the ending served an overlooked point -- while yes, as the viewer, we care about whether Cobb was dreaming or not at every point in the movie. So did Cobb. Right up until the end. The point was that Cobb spun the top and walked away from it, indicating that for the first time in the movie he didn't care, that this time the content (being home) was more important than the state (dream v. reality), and thus for the first time Nolan seperated Cobb's perspective on that topic from that of the external viewer.
I just finished watching after hearing so much praise from it and .......wow. What a journey ....
I'm a huge fan of film, but I've only read a couple books about actual film analysis. The points mentioned about how films work like dreams are extremely interesting. However, I think an extremely important factor is being overlooked. It is something that gets overlooked by almost everybody in modern culture, and it makes a really big difference in how I think about films (and videogames). And that is how much WORK our brain has to do in order to take the 2 dimensional image projected on a screen and interpret it as depicting reality (whether a realistic one or a fantastical one). It's really quite an amazing feat. If we hadn't all grown up watching screens, and someone explained to us how they worked, we would probably be, at least, extremely skeptical that any such thing could ever work.
'I'm going to put up a matrix of dots that represent a fictional scene. The characters are going to be a few inches to a few feet tall, but never the actual size your brain developed to expect humans to be. It will be flat, with no depth, so the image each eye gets will be the same without positional shift, the thing your brain uses to stitch together your binocular vision into a cohesive whole. Also, the lighting will be wrong. The aspect ratio will probably be wrong. The colors will be wrong. The sound won't come out of mouthes, but out of boxes nearby. And with no pretense or explanation, there will be music. You won't be able to control the focus, it will be controlled for you.'
And yet today, there are people who say things like said in this video that "films affect us on a subconscious level" as if they are so life-like that our brain has no choice but to interpret them as reality. This idea is behind a lot of censorship too, as the only even-vaguely-plausible mechanism by which fictional media might have a significant power of influence over peoples actions which they are incapable of controlling consciously. And it's horseshit. The brain has to do backflips and somersaults to take that glowing rectangle and process it as a representation of a world populated with people. That's why you don't get PTSD from watching a war movie. It's also why making a film is HARD. You can't just point the camera at actors speaking lines and expect an audience to naturally be immersed. Seeing a death on a screen bears no resemblance whatsoever to seeing a real death of a real person in real life. (Its not even similar to a photo taken of a real death scene in almost every case, because we have been trained to expect certain things by media and if those aren't present it doesn't "feel real" (which is hilarious because we're talking about totally artificial constructs that we've simply become accustomed to in totally artificial constructs)) Concern that a persons responses to fiction will be similar to a persons responses to reality or claims that the brain 'can't tell the difference' only betrays a deep level of ignorance about the brain and reality. (To be clear, that's a tangent, I don't believe this video about Inception, which was done very well, to be claiming this.)
This was great. It's also important to note that Nolan himself stated that it doesn't matter in the end overall. Cobb got to see his kids finally, and that's all that matters. That is his Reality now. Dream or not.