With the massive foundation point, in the UK, we have embankments, where they use dirt from tunnels or cuttings to build a higher bit to make the gradient more gradual
Yes, for me that is the only thing missing in this amazing game. RRO Extended is a very good tool for that but it would be super handy to have it on the in game map. I understand the map should be giving as less info as possible because there weren't any gadgets like GPS or anything in that time but you'd at least record or register where your track would be.
There's a historic railroad near me and when I was a kid I was a huge steam train nerd. Still am lmao. But I was just naming off parts of this train to my dad and the engineer and fireman invited me and my dad to ride with them to the rail shed. And see stuff they were restoring. It was only a 20m ride but they let me drive it. Operating a reverser and regular takes a LOT of muscle. Granted I was 10 but I remember how hard I had to yank it. That will forever be a favorite memory. The old guys still work there they just help do maintenance and it's nice to see them occasionally
At one point there were lanterns on the switches on tracks that would rotate to indicate which way the switch was thrown at night time for engineers to see in the distance they were oil lamps that were lite and put out every day. Nice clean well laid set of tracks on your map looks nice man!
Yeah the "brakeman" on trains back in the day before a company called Westinghouse invented the "airbrakes" and hoses that go in-between cars. They actually did go in-between each car and set the handbrake! There were 3 people on a train: the engineer who drives, the brakeman who (obviously) brakes and the fireman who fed the fire by shoveling coal Rail lines are built up high simply to prevent them from getting flooded out, usually near farm fields or rivers/streams. It doesn't take much to wash away the ballest (stone bed) the rail ties sit in.
Speaking of getting "stranded" without firewood - the $250 handcart actually has enough power to push 4 empty log cars up a 1% grade. You can't attach it to the cars, but it will push them! Used it to make a log run just to see if it was possible. It worked, but was slow (walking pace) up the hill.
Having lived my younger life watching Back to the Future 1, 2 and 3 this video really makes me feel old AF lolol. Thanks for that. Btw it was BTF 3 where the train was a thing, you should watch it!!
Back to the Future are classics and well, well worth a re-watch! Yes they had a train, looked similar to the Eureka from what I remember of it and you were right it is the 2nd movie of 3!
Train watching is really only a North American thing. Back in the 80s my dad, in USA navy uniform, was over in Hungry and got in major trouble for taking pictures of trains. The cop luckily knew a little English and was able to communicate with my dad. The reason he got in trouble was "Only 2 people take pictures of trains, train workers and terrorists". In most European countries their trains are military level important. In USA and Canada we use highways to transport stuff but over seas they use rails to transport their supplies and soldiers.
Every time I watch you two play together kAN has the same complaints about his line that I have about my own, and I end up in an hours long track re-laying binge...
With where the game is now, I'd be happy to see a city building side added, where as you bring in products to the freight depot, a town starts to build out in the area, driving more demand for certain products to be hauled in, like the planks and beams could be brought in for the townsfolk to build houses, or a church, or saloon, would give more of a purpose, and a bit of direction to what you haul, and when.....could also be a good way to profit from the excess firewood, as they'd go to the stack to buy some to heat their house with.
It may have been mentioned but modern trains, since the late 1800's, have air brakes on all cars. Each car (plus locomotives) is connected not just through the mechanical coupler, but also air hoses that connect to form a "train line" forming a continuous "pipe" for air pressure from the locomotive. For modern brakes, the brakes apply when pressure is reduced in the pipe. This is done through a brake valve in the locomotive and acts in addition to the locomotive "independent" brake. So in modern air brakes, if there is a break in the "train line" - like if a connection between cars comes undone, as would happen if a coupling breaks, then the brakes would automatically apply in both the separated section and the section still connected to the locomotive. This is a key safety feature. The train cars still have a brake wheel for manual application of the brakes (especially when not connected to a source of air). Brake vans (more a European term) or cabooses (more of a North American term - other terms used are cabins, hacks, etc), could be used to apply brakes at the end of the train, either through an air brake valve, or through applying the manual brake. Applying the manual brake at the back could be used to stretch the train to keep the slack out between cars. This could be important to keep the slack from running in and out on trackage with lots of ups and downs for instance, where the slack/buffer forces between cars could break the coupling between cars or worse.
I notice today that the firewood station now comes with firewood when you place it. I was testing if you could place it right next to the cordwood platform . I found out you can load cordwood directly into the firewood platform for those that caught sort after the update. Brakemen was one of the most dangerous jobs in early railroading.
You can somewhat cheat using this method.. Haven't tried deleting the fill point to see if the cordwood disappears to allow a new one to be built\filled again though so don't quote me on it...
The breakman on trains was the most dangerous job the early railroads. Many breakmen were young men, some as young as 15. Would run up and down the train turning the brake handles on every car before the invention of airbrakes. Many brakemen would die on the job. Either by falling off the train, or falling between cars.
To "pulse the regulator", as kAN called it, you can tap W and S. W makes the reg go up by 2% with every press and S makes it go down. Hold them for 3 seconds to go fully up or down. Hope this was useful.
The caboose helps to slow down the train when the train is downhill. Logically , if you slow down the train from the front, the train has some good chances derail, if you slow down the train from the back end, the train has some good chances to stay on track. Can you like tell " Kan " .
It’s not “slow down” so much as “hold tension.” It’s similar to why longer trains in the mountains will have engines in the middle and rear - you need to use brake or power, depending on the slope, to manage tensions so you prevent breaking couplers on the uphill and compression derailments on the downhill. If they’re trying to “slow down” or decelerate the train, then they’re using as many brakes as they can (it’s possible the back end is favored for heavier application on a slope, but you’re still going to want as much braking surface area as possible to reduce wear and prevent slippage).
i think a good use for the Eureka is fro when you get the corkwood you can hook it up to the Eureka and take it to the smelter as its a longer distance and smaller engines like the Bettsy is more for like shunting as shunters would get the cars for the bigger engines to not waste as much resources using the bigger engines to grab their own cars. (Someone fact check everything I said here)
Cool video as always. Just wanted to say that you always throw too much wood into the fire of your engine. It only needs five logs to get filled. Doesn't matter too much due to unlimited supplies, but it makes you refill more odten.
Hey dapper i think u need to turn your mic up just a little but cool video 👍 Edit rails in Australia have big embankments covered in rocks usually only in low ish places where it might flood usually theres a pipe underneath aswell
Dapper the reverser at 100 Percent is Low gear you should bring the reverser to 60 percent for high speed gear and regulator at 100 percent that's how it is done IN IRL on a steam train try it it saves the fuel you are not using full fuel you can reduce the fuel use at higher speeds
if you go to your head light you can open the headlight cover and turn them off and relight them use your mouser like the window to open the cover and light the head light and turn them off it works
besides loading logs and immediately unloading them in the fire depot on other side of car for early money, they'll remove money gain from this soon, I'm sure.
Dapper to turn on and off the headlight drag your mouse up and down while in front of the head light to turn it on and off the placement of your person you stand on the ground for some locos others jump up while moving your mouse up and down up should be on or off and the other way should be on but I might have it reversed try it it will operate the lights front and back
Why don't you just get a second Betsy so you can have more power up the hills and you can retain some slight realism. Distributed power unit instead of a caboose and you can coordinate train control with "radio"
Apparently 24 loaded wagons from the sawmill to the smelter is asking a bit much if the chain links 😅 I have to smooth out 1 more corner at the base of the main climb
I have a question. Can you run the game without Internet access or do you have to run the game with Internet access. Because I am in an area with no Internet and I love the game that I'm thinking of buying.
@@dragonboi173 I was trying to avoid being grisly, but I personally think you won’t be crushed, but sliced. Those things have a lot of weight. But the idea scared me a lot, too.
If your on the app. Update then you can pick what video quality you want. Its stupid you have to pick it for ever video but its worth the great quality if you have 4g something wifi.
this would be a funny idea to add Thomas characters to the game and have runaway trains and while you are taking tickets be oh shoot gotta jump clear XD
Back to the Future 3 was in the old west and had a time traveling at the end.
With a steam train, I might add. Something like a Class 70, or a D&RGW Class
25:14 I thought that you derailed for sure 😳
From what I’ve seen the Mogul seems like the best choice for a new engine
The amount of times firewood has been forgotten...
With the massive foundation point, in the UK, we have embankments, where they use dirt from tunnels or cuttings to build a higher bit to make the gradient more gradual
Hey Dapper
When running the train whit the UI. You can control the regulator with W and S for 2% increments. Easier than using the mouse...
Biggest thing they need to add is to view our track on the map
Yes, for me that is the only thing missing in this amazing game. RRO Extended is a very good tool for that but it would be super handy to have it on the in game map. I understand the map should be giving as less info as possible because there weren't any gadgets like GPS or anything in that time but you'd at least record or register where your track would be.
That behind the scenes convo really paints a picture. Clearly the overlords force you two to play games with each other.
Literally playing Transport Fever while watching this - perfect combo!
There's a historic railroad near me and when I was a kid I was a huge steam train nerd. Still am lmao. But I was just naming off parts of this train to my dad and the engineer and fireman invited me and my dad to ride with them to the rail shed. And see stuff they were restoring. It was only a 20m ride but they let me drive it. Operating a reverser and regular takes a LOT of muscle. Granted I was 10 but I remember how hard I had to yank it. That will forever be a favorite memory. The old guys still work there they just help do maintenance and it's nice to see them occasionally
At one point there were lanterns on the switches on tracks that would rotate to indicate which way the switch was thrown at night time for engineers to see in the distance they were oil lamps that were lite and put out every day. Nice clean well laid set of tracks on your map looks nice man!
Yeah the "brakeman" on trains back in the day before a company called Westinghouse invented the "airbrakes" and hoses that go in-between cars. They actually did go in-between each car and set the handbrake! There were 3 people on a train: the engineer who drives, the brakeman who (obviously) brakes and the fireman who fed the fire by shoveling coal
Rail lines are built up high simply to prevent them from getting flooded out, usually near farm fields or rivers/streams. It doesn't take much to wash away the ballest (stone bed) the rail ties sit in.
Speaking of getting "stranded" without firewood - the $250 handcart actually has enough power to push 4 empty log cars up a 1% grade. You can't attach it to the cars, but it will push them! Used it to make a log run just to see if it was possible. It worked, but was slow (walking pace) up the hill.
Kan: "I want day night cycle."
Me: Having Scrap Mechanic flashbacks.
The person who applied the brakes to every car was called a brake man
And some called them crazy. Lol.
@@fastoutnotforkids7192 lol
Having lived my younger life watching Back to the Future 1, 2 and 3 this video really makes me feel old AF lolol. Thanks for that. Btw it was BTF 3 where the train was a thing, you should watch it!!
On the point of railway embankments: the Lackawanna Cutoff.
Back to the Future are classics and well, well worth a re-watch!
Yes they had a train, looked similar to the Eureka from what I remember of it and you were right it is the 2nd movie of 3!
the one with the train was the third movie
@@TitoRigatoni was it really, wow, maybe I need to go back and watch them again too! ;)
You need to make more of these videos! I love watching them while I play it.
Train watching is really only a North American thing. Back in the 80s my dad, in USA navy uniform, was over in Hungry and got in major trouble for taking pictures of trains. The cop luckily knew a little English and was able to communicate with my dad. The reason he got in trouble was "Only 2 people take pictures of trains, train workers and terrorists". In most European countries their trains are military level important. In USA and Canada we use highways to transport stuff but over seas they use rails to transport their supplies and soldiers.
Every time I watch you two play together kAN has the same complaints about his line that I have about my own, and I end up in an hours long track re-laying binge...
25:13 I love how you just carry on like that didn’t happen lol
21:00 i also hope they add that feature if possible. itd make a few things a bit easier
ASAP - As smooth as possible 11:14
28:04 two guys one fire LOL
This is the series spin off I was missing.
Love this game!
With where the game is now, I'd be happy to see a city building side added, where as you bring in products to the freight depot, a town starts to build out in the area, driving more demand for certain products to be hauled in, like the planks and beams could be brought in for the townsfolk to build houses, or a church, or saloon, would give more of a purpose, and a bit of direction to what you haul, and when.....could also be a good way to profit from the excess firewood, as they'd go to the stack to buy some to heat their house with.
love watching you guys play together
It may have been mentioned but modern trains, since the late 1800's, have air brakes on all cars. Each car (plus locomotives) is connected not just through the mechanical coupler, but also air hoses that connect to form a "train line" forming a continuous "pipe" for air pressure from the locomotive. For modern brakes, the brakes apply when pressure is reduced in the pipe. This is done through a brake valve in the locomotive and acts in addition to the locomotive "independent" brake. So in modern air brakes, if there is a break in the "train line" - like if a connection between cars comes undone, as would happen if a coupling breaks, then the brakes would automatically apply in both the separated section and the section still connected to the locomotive. This is a key safety feature. The train cars still have a brake wheel for manual application of the brakes (especially when not connected to a source of air).
Brake vans (more a European term) or cabooses (more of a North American term - other terms used are cabins, hacks, etc), could be used to apply brakes at the end of the train, either through an air brake valve, or through applying the manual brake. Applying the manual brake at the back could be used to stretch the train to keep the slack out between cars. This could be important to keep the slack from running in and out on trackage with lots of ups and downs for instance, where the slack/buffer forces between cars could break the coupling between cars or worse.
I notice today that the firewood station now comes with firewood when you place it. I was testing if you could place it right next to the cordwood platform . I found out you can load cordwood directly into the firewood platform for those that caught sort after the update.
Brakemen was one of the most dangerous jobs in early railroading.
You can somewhat cheat using this method.. Haven't tried deleting the fill point to see if the cordwood disappears to allow a new one to be built\filled again though so don't quote me on it...
The breakman on trains was the most dangerous job the early railroads. Many breakmen were young men, some as young as 15. Would run up and down the train turning the brake handles on every car before the invention of airbrakes. Many brakemen would die on the job. Either by falling off the train, or falling between cars.
To "pulse the regulator", as kAN called it, you can tap W and S. W makes the reg go up by 2% with every press and S makes it go down. Hold them for 3 seconds to go fully up or down. Hope this was useful.
i spent 160hrs just laying track just to the lumbermil, logging camp and depot. so i can relate to that 3:20
1:45 haunted floating bell by water towers
That no shalant conversasions in the start. Hemined me of my summer camp island( good idea stranger) Edit: Back to the Future III the last scean.
Great vid Dapper love all ur vids
The caboose helps to slow down the train when the train is downhill.
Logically , if you slow down the train from the front, the train has some good chances derail, if you slow down the train from the back end, the train has some good chances to stay on track.
Can you like tell " Kan " .
It’s not “slow down” so much as “hold tension.” It’s similar to why longer trains in the mountains will have engines in the middle and rear - you need to use brake or power, depending on the slope, to manage tensions so you prevent breaking couplers on the uphill and compression derailments on the downhill.
If they’re trying to “slow down” or decelerate the train, then they’re using as many brakes as they can (it’s possible the back end is favored for heavier application on a slope, but you’re still going to want as much braking surface area as possible to reduce wear and prevent slippage).
@@StewPedassle Thank you for letting me know.
that makes a lot more sense, i didn't know that.
You guys should make this server public to a discord or something like a livestream
360p gang watup
oops XD
@@DapperEcho 360p why?
@@kizigamer6895 because you’re THAT early, should feel honored 😆
its so weird seeing 360p
The joys of being so early, it's like watching something through frosted glass. Or early 2000's UA-cam...
you could use another Porter as a Caboose, or just use the last carriage's brakes
Very very good idea 👍💡.
i think a good use for the Eureka is fro when you get the corkwood you can hook it up to the Eureka and take it to the smelter as its a longer distance and smaller engines like the Bettsy is more for like shunting as shunters would get the cars for the bigger engines to not waste as much resources using the bigger engines to grab their own cars. (Someone fact check everything I said here)
Cool video as always.
Just wanted to say that you always throw too much wood into the fire of your engine. It only needs five logs to get filled. Doesn't matter too much due to unlimited supplies, but it makes you refill more odten.
the people who ran the length of the train setting brakes were called "Brakemen"
I know that very well.
light posts and crossing/switch ahead signs, custom sign kinda thing to label different routes.
When you say shunt its like nails on a chalkboard, Americans don't shunt, we switch.
I’m always watching these videos and seeing the fuel run out and just waiting and waiting for them to realize
..... In the days of link and Pin it wasn't uncommon for the train to feel like you were being bounced around when the train was at speed.
SWITCHING!!!! in the US we call it switching. Europe is the shunters.
Lv your vids dapper
Betsy lost her Bell, it floating by the water tower at 1:46.
That was a Poltergeist moment.
Must
Watch
Back To The Future Trilogy
Amazing movies.
kAN be like: BREAKING NEWS! HORSES ARE VEHICLES!
Hey dapper i think u need to turn your mic up just a little but cool video 👍
Edit rails in Australia have big embankments covered in rocks usually only in low ish places where it might flood usually theres a pipe underneath aswell
Beams and lumber goto the iron mine. Make more money playing the next objectives.
The van at the end of the train is called a break van
i feel like you're trolling bc you heard other comments call it a brakemans car so you intentionally butchered it, good joke if so
I know that very well.
Dapper the reverser at 100 Percent is Low gear you should bring the reverser to 60 percent for high speed gear and regulator at 100 percent that's how it is done IN IRL on a steam train try it it saves the fuel you are not using full fuel you can reduce the fuel use at higher speeds
Day/Night-Weather and seasonal.
Or, or, you can use beams to make firewood at the sawmill! Same price, MUCH shorter trip!
train time travel was....back to the future 3
Hopefully they add day/night cycle just like SnowRunner. This game is visually and gameplay speed very similar.
the reason some railways build up the grade is because in some areas it floods really really bad
guy's loving the videos
umm how about yous put 2 bessie's back to back and pull the 20+ cars it will be eazy and possibly easier to manage.
Did you notice Betsy's bell was just hanging out, mid-air by the water tower?
The people who put brakes on cars one after another long ago like how you said it in the video is called "swing brakemen"
KAN with the 0 ping
I like the thu,bnail alot :)
if you go to your head light you can open the headlight cover and turn them off and relight them use your mouser like the window to open the cover and light the head light and turn them off it works
Hi
what they do irl for laying track is use the dirt from cuttings to fill in dips aim for net 0 dirt in/out
5:15 no the last movie back to the future part 3 is the one with the train
Grain Trains
There 3 back to the future movies, the train is in the 3rd one
Dapper you should blow your whistle 3 short blast for reverse 2 for forward 2 again after you stop that's the real whistle code
Big shrimp ;).
besides loading logs and immediately unloading them in the fire depot on other side of car for early money, they'll remove money gain from this soon, I'm sure.
yes… doc had a train
Guys who set brakes are called brakeman. Still use this name for the extra guys on a traincrew.
Dapper to turn on and off the headlight drag your mouse up and down while in front of the head light to turn it on and off the placement of your person you stand on the ground for some locos others jump up while moving your mouse up and down up should be on or off and the other way should be on but I might have it reversed try it it will operate the lights front and back
There will eventually be a Kaboose
Why don't you just get a second Betsy so you can have more power up the hills and you can retain some slight realism. Distributed power unit instead of a caboose and you can coordinate train control with "radio"
Apparently 24 loaded wagons from the sawmill to the smelter is asking a bit much if the chain links 😅 I have to smooth out 1 more corner at the base of the main climb
Must get mogul
I have a question. Can you run the game without Internet access or do you have to run the game with Internet access. Because I am in an area with no Internet and I love the game that I'm thinking of buying.
When you start Railroads Online you have to either host a server or join one. It's looking like an active internet connection is required.
Who new that grinding a bit of cash would be fun to watch?
Do you think they'll add tunneling to the game?
Use both locomotifs on the same train
ayoooo im early
Ah nice unlimited fuel again because people didn't want to use the hand powered rail
Dapper play more I am Fish
One of my classmates has relatives without fingers because they were severed when they were turning the brakes off cars
I worked in a rail yard and I bet if I fell off the end of the car going backwards then I would have been sliced in half. That stuff is no joke.
@@michaelwilson5866 oh I believe it Getting crushed by a locomotive of any kind is on my list of fears
@@dragonboi173 I was trying to avoid being grisly, but I personally think you won’t be crushed, but sliced. Those things have a lot of weight. But the idea scared me a lot, too.
Did anyone notice the flying bell by the water tower?
The commentary is great. Too bad youtubby thinks I like watching things through frosted glass... Parse the video faster dammit.
If your on the app. Update then you can pick what video quality you want. Its stupid you have to pick it for ever video but its worth the great quality if you have 4g something wifi.
Geeze how old is kAN?
Dose any one else not have sound
why is it only in 360p?
You have to wait for UA-cam to process the full quality
@@danzo5521 It's called early gang my G.
@@JustIn-sr1xe no joe
34:35 hmmm
this would be a funny idea to add Thomas characters to the game and have runaway trains and while you are taking tickets be oh shoot gotta jump clear XD
Do this with spy cakes and kan and Others who like you no