what hurts more about the amiya boss fight is that it is supposed to represent Theresa fighting to eliminate the most precious memory the doctor refused to give up until the very end. Their memories of their relationship with Amiya which hurts all the more after seeing Amiya being extremely hurt when Doctor later tells her in chernobog that they don't remember anything including her
All i can say is that as an EN reader that has been on the lore of this game since global release, the mix of the main story, Darknights Memoir, Lone Trail, and Babel has been some of the BEST stories this game has been giving, and the culmination of all of this in chapter 14, from knowing about Logos existance for at least 3 years, not knowing almost a single proper thing about Theresa, the start of the massive lore drops of Doctor's past from Darknight, Vigilo, Lone trail, and Babel, and a lot more that i am definitely not mentioning to not make this too long Making chapter 14 feel like a culmination of MANY years and reencounters of many characters to basically "finish" this big arc on the making Absolutely amazing story 4-5 years in the making
Oh I love getting new player perspectives on things like this. I imagine it must be wild to go all the way back from Ch7 into this :D. Though as you showed with that teaser at the end in ch.7 the seeds for this storyline are already laid all the way back then. Super cool that you were able to get this much out of it without having all the context leading up to the release of the Babel story. Its certainly one of the biggest drop of reveals weve had, finally getting big parts of the past fleshed out that were often fore---postshadowed? and we build a lot of intrigue around. So for the lore intereted people and story enjoyers despite being a prequel this was a major payoff. In terms of progression of the main plot and lore, I really recommend that alongside the main story chapers you look into Darknights Memoirs. Darknight's Memoirs -> A Walk in the Dust -> Babel are without a doubt the three most important companions stories to the main story progression, usually read in that order. Uually Darknights memoirs is read around ch7, A walk in the Dust after chapter 8 and Babel would be between ch13 and 14. Don't worry changing the order is not a big deal, you will just already know some reveals that only get teased in the earlier bits. Darknights Memoirs and Babel in particular go hand in hand and are very important, though the translation was worse back then so DM is a bit rougher than Babel. And finally as a cool character piece after having read both Darknights and Babel, there is an official animation that is 15 minutes long on the official youtube channel called "The Dagger's Inheritors". This takes place in a timeskip you will notice in Darknights Memoirs and fills in some final gaps.
If you want to learn more about the truth of terra, and the ancient civilization, I suggest you to read Intermezzi: Lonetrail (though it's has prequal like Manfield break and Dorothy's vision, but just a small sniffing out of it), best peak fiction of all time. And W during babel time, read Intremezzi: Darknights Memoir
@@TheZOmbieMana Lone trail and Babel are peak of Arknights lore and story. not even 11:12 comparison. Its probably 11.99999999:12 how good lone trail is (12 is lone trail btw)
@@zynczinc1443 my opinion on lone trail is exactly the opposite of yours. Babel is the best AK story I've ever read. The lore, characters, writing style, plot, theme are absolute cinema. Lone trail on the other hand is just a mess with lore nuke. I even to this day still wondering who the main protagonist of lone trail is. Be
9:40 I love this part because I have the exact opposite response. To me, the Doctor's dilemma makes perfect sense because it's something that you can so easily visualize if you just reframe a few things. Would you give up everything else you've worked through in life just for a gacha game? More appropriately, for the save/load process in a gacha game? That's basically the scale it amounts to. Originium is meant to be the solution that countless people have dedicated their lives to, in order to survive against something conceptually worse than super-entropy. We're literally talking about the universe going dark because something is snuffing out all the stars, and people have spent the past million years failing to come up with a solution. Until now. So what if billions died? That's on this one planet. How many billions of planets containing billions of people are there in the universe? Are you willing to condemn them all just because you had a quick walk around the park? Are you willing to throw away everything you've worked at throughout your life just because you had fun with a game one time? The most compelling conflict is that we don't know if Originium as it currently exists is intentional or an unforeseen deviation. Is it supposed to make people suffer as it assimilates all those who come in contact with it? If so, is it still acceptable if the end result still works? Or would you rather peacefully kill all civilizations early when it could instead persist in a different form? Sure, we can parrot "ends justify the means is bad" all we want like armchair philosophers, but when the alternative is literally the end of all existence, that platitude is genuinely worthless relative to what the doctor needs to weigh. When given the options "you can either be bad or everyone everywhere will be turbo-dead", most people would choose the former.
That is an interesting perspective when you put it like that. I do enjoy this event can spark a lot of differing thoughts to come up with your own interpretation.
@@TheZOmbieMana I think part of it is also because of events prior to Babel. It wasn't until relatively recently that Doctor's backstory was actually revealed. Before that, the game has dropped hints of how different doctor was, how vast of a scope his civilization reached. The biggest reveal was probably Lone Trail with how much it bucked the setting's scope, but even things like the seaborn or the snowfields teased people with how conflict might expand beyond Terra. With that said, Babel was still the first time Priestess showed up proper, drip feeding hints on why Doctor's dead ancient civilization is dead. I could be interpreting things with an overly sci-fi slant since I enjoy Stellaris, but I think there's a reason why Hypergryph has been pushing things beyond Terra, and I think there's a more explicit reason why Priestess talks about how worlds and stars are losing their colour and falling silent than just flowery metaphor.
Everything could have been different if Priestess give Doctor a daughter. She said it herself, they do a lot of "holding hands" and different kind of "holding hands" and "holding hands" that don't use hand (segs). What a tease.
I got relatively lucky and got W and logos in 115 pulls. Although I'm not always lucky. Never got Reed alter or Ling. Oh well. I still have enough saved up for the dungeon meshi crew, when the time comes.
Y know what at the earlier state of the game im taking a quite a liking to W as an operator,and going tru her voices and notes,and all of it almost an insult directed to Doc,at first she kinda annoying,but now it all makes sense lmao
what hurts more about the amiya boss fight is that it is supposed to represent Theresa fighting to eliminate the most precious memory the doctor refused to give up until the very end. Their memories of their relationship with Amiya which hurts all the more after seeing Amiya being extremely hurt when Doctor later tells her in chernobog that they don't remember anything including her
All i can say is that as an EN reader that has been on the lore of this game since global release, the mix of the main story, Darknights Memoir, Lone Trail, and Babel has been some of the BEST stories this game has been giving, and the culmination of all of this in chapter 14, from knowing about Logos existance for at least 3 years, not knowing almost a single proper thing about Theresa, the start of the massive lore drops of Doctor's past from Darknight, Vigilo, Lone trail, and Babel, and a lot more that i am definitely not mentioning to not make this too long
Making chapter 14 feel like a culmination of MANY years and reencounters of many characters to basically "finish" this big arc on the making
Absolutely amazing story 4-5 years in the making
Oh I love getting new player perspectives on things like this. I imagine it must be wild to go all the way back from Ch7 into this :D. Though as you showed with that teaser at the end in ch.7 the seeds for this storyline are already laid all the way back then. Super cool that you were able to get this much out of it without having all the context leading up to the release of the Babel story. Its certainly one of the biggest drop of reveals weve had, finally getting big parts of the past fleshed out that were often fore---postshadowed? and we build a lot of intrigue around. So for the lore intereted people and story enjoyers despite being a prequel this was a major payoff.
In terms of progression of the main plot and lore, I really recommend that alongside the main story chapers you look into Darknights Memoirs. Darknight's Memoirs -> A Walk in the Dust -> Babel are without a doubt the three most important companions stories to the main story progression, usually read in that order. Uually Darknights memoirs is read around ch7, A walk in the Dust after chapter 8 and Babel would be between ch13 and 14. Don't worry changing the order is not a big deal, you will just already know some reveals that only get teased in the earlier bits.
Darknights Memoirs and Babel in particular go hand in hand and are very important, though the translation was worse back then so DM is a bit rougher than Babel. And finally as a cool character piece after having read both Darknights and Babel, there is an official animation that is 15 minutes long on the official youtube channel called "The Dagger's Inheritors". This takes place in a timeskip you will notice in Darknights Memoirs and fills in some final gaps.
If you want to learn more about the truth of terra, and the ancient civilization, I suggest you to read Intermezzi: Lonetrail (though it's has prequal like Manfield break and Dorothy's vision, but just a small sniffing out of it), best peak fiction of all time.
And W during babel time, read Intremezzi: Darknights Memoir
ooo thats good to know thanks! I have played Lonetrail but didn't have the time to read back when it released.
@@TheZOmbieMana Lone trail and Babel are peak of Arknights lore and story. not even 11:12 comparison. Its probably 11.99999999:12 how good lone trail is (12 is lone trail btw)
@@zynczinc1443 my opinion on lone trail is exactly the opposite of yours. Babel is the best AK story I've ever read. The lore, characters, writing style, plot, theme are absolute cinema. Lone trail on the other hand is just a mess with lore nuke. I even to this day still wondering who the main protagonist of lone trail is. Be
You know i watch all you vid all the at end
9:40
I love this part because I have the exact opposite response. To me, the Doctor's dilemma makes perfect sense because it's something that you can so easily visualize if you just reframe a few things.
Would you give up everything else you've worked through in life just for a gacha game? More appropriately, for the save/load process in a gacha game?
That's basically the scale it amounts to. Originium is meant to be the solution that countless people have dedicated their lives to, in order to survive against something conceptually worse than super-entropy. We're literally talking about the universe going dark because something is snuffing out all the stars, and people have spent the past million years failing to come up with a solution. Until now. So what if billions died? That's on this one planet. How many billions of planets containing billions of people are there in the universe? Are you willing to condemn them all just because you had a quick walk around the park? Are you willing to throw away everything you've worked at throughout your life just because you had fun with a game one time?
The most compelling conflict is that we don't know if Originium as it currently exists is intentional or an unforeseen deviation. Is it supposed to make people suffer as it assimilates all those who come in contact with it?
If so, is it still acceptable if the end result still works? Or would you rather peacefully kill all civilizations early when it could instead persist in a different form?
Sure, we can parrot "ends justify the means is bad" all we want like armchair philosophers, but when the alternative is literally the end of all existence, that platitude is genuinely worthless relative to what the doctor needs to weigh. When given the options "you can either be bad or everyone everywhere will be turbo-dead", most people would choose the former.
That is an interesting perspective when you put it like that. I do enjoy this event can spark a lot of differing thoughts to come up with your own interpretation.
@@TheZOmbieMana I think part of it is also because of events prior to Babel. It wasn't until relatively recently that Doctor's backstory was actually revealed. Before that, the game has dropped hints of how different doctor was, how vast of a scope his civilization reached. The biggest reveal was probably Lone Trail with how much it bucked the setting's scope, but even things like the seaborn or the snowfields teased people with how conflict might expand beyond Terra.
With that said, Babel was still the first time Priestess showed up proper, drip feeding hints on why Doctor's dead ancient civilization is dead. I could be interpreting things with an overly sci-fi slant since I enjoy Stellaris, but I think there's a reason why Hypergryph has been pushing things beyond Terra, and I think there's a more explicit reason why Priestess talks about how worlds and stars are losing their colour and falling silent than just flowery metaphor.
Everything could have been different if Priestess give Doctor a daughter.
She said it herself, they do a lot of "holding hands" and different kind of "holding hands" and "holding hands" that don't use hand (segs).
What a tease.
Btw when she mentioned about "holding hands", is not from babel story but from chapter 14.
I feel your pain, man. My Walter took 300 pull also.
Great video, but Theresa is limited to chapter 14 during the event alone, if I recall correctly, you have to play the stages to get her
I got relatively lucky and got W and logos in 115 pulls. Although I'm not always lucky. Never got Reed alter or Ling. Oh well. I still have enough saved up for the dungeon meshi crew, when the time comes.
Pulls were painful to watch. It took me 185 to get my hands on Wis, but at least I got Skalter my beloved.
you probably should have read darknights memoir first.
Y know what at the earlier state of the game im taking a quite a liking to W as an operator,and going tru her voices and notes,and all of it almost an insult directed to Doc,at first she kinda annoying,but now it all makes sense lmao
@@giver6153 Hah! That's perfect reasoning why W grew on me overtime too. It does make total sense indeed.
lmao how many Logos did you even get
Well let's just say Logos is certainly Max Potential now...
I barely got Logos on the last 10 pull to get to 300, but I got all the damned Wisadels