@Azenith yea, but that has nothing to do with the show. That's one individual and he just so happens to be in the show. You can cancel him but why the whole show? Doesn't make sense.
That's the thing about David Cho, he's such an idiot there's no logic behind the made up bs that comes out of his mouth. Yes it's very detailed but the dude is such a good liar and he's made a habit out of it that he's gotten so good at lying. I'm in the camp that believes that story was 100% made up. If you watch him on Joe Rogan's podcast, he spews so much bs out of his mouth it can be hard to tell which parts of his stories are real and which parts are made up. Was never a fan of David Cho and was disappointed to see he was casted in this series, but I still loved the series and ain't gonna punish Steven Yuen and Ali Wong for it. Was still a great show. Just wish David Cho wasn't a part of it.
That's the thing too, it's really easy to say "it's actually just a lie" once you start getting flak knowing any victim that might be out there can't come forward. If he tells so many tall tales who can say if the claim was a lie, or him denying it is?
@k A movie is meant to be detailed because you're literally watching everything as it happens, that's a horrible comparison and not at all the smoking gun you think it is.
one of my most favorite things is seeing the creators I grew up with grow into something so humble and so happy they found there selfs. everyone grows up and we are all human . being real is one of the rarest things these days tbh. from watching David , Tim ,Wong fu Productions , a lot of the asian creators in middle school from now its crazy . I've been subscribed to David for so long its like this weird journey I know all of us who have followed him are just so proud of him! and a lot of his friends! keep up the good work David!
The thing that messed me up about David Cho's story is that at one point he says he wanted to be hated as much as he hated himself when he told that story, but he wasn't. Dude didn't lose his friends, his podcast, his fans, nothing. Dude used the very real trauma workers are forced to endure like a joke and wasn't punished for it at all until now. Only once he finally starts getting some flak YEARS later he wants to talk about how depressed he was and how hard his time was. People who endured the kind of assault David Cho lied about committing had to watch him proudly "admit" to it, see no consequences, and now have to hear him sulking about how it was just a lie and listen, he was really depressed when he said that.
@@propertymanager9149 Him pushing away friends is not the same as friends leaving him for admitting to rape, nor does it cover the fact that he faced no real consequences for the admission. Rapists should be in jail, not on a podcast laughing about how successful they are. Lie or truth, he didn't get what he deserved either way.
@@propertymanager9149 You expect to be able to claim you committed a violent sex crime on a livestream and face no consequences so long as you play it off as a joke for attention later? Get over yourself, please.
As much as I get your point I think it highlights the issue with our culture. What does this guys life have to do with any of ours. Why should I feel worse because of what this guy did or didnt get away with? Especially when hes far from a normal person. His life is hardly comparable to regular people so I wouldnt use him as an example for my own life. Celebs get away with shit that regular people would be punished for and thats not new. We'd all be better off if we stopped putting so much weight/value on these people
Thank you for sharing your perspective David! Seeing so many people online dismiss this issue made me feel really disheartened, so I appreciate this video a lot
Why isnt Bobby Lee getting same judgement as David Cho when they both had similar themed jokes and justification of telling the jokes from the asian american community?
What bobby lee joke are you talking about? I can only think of the one about him being molested by a slow guy, which is actually a true event. And he was the victim in that.
really refreshing convo, thank you for covering this whole issue. every point in this felt really important and needed. i needed this personally, especially the last part, so thank you.
I was watching GeniusBrain podcasts for years and it helped me so much in terms of relationships finance and motivation, they gave me the push to find away to save myself and move from a third world country with no goals no job no future and moved to the US to finally achieve my goals. so I will forever be grateful for David and his guests
I don't know anything about david cho, the actor. But to listen to that bit you played, triggered me. I am still processessing it all. His tone, the way he told the story made it sound like he was totally aware, knew what he was doing, and knew it was rape. I am shooketh to say the least. I don't know what to believe though. It's terrifying either way, if it was a lie or him honestly doing it. I like how you both delved deep into what could potentially make a person the way they are. Sometimes some people turn out good after the sh*t storm they were handed. Sometimes people don't. It's so important to get quality mental health help.
I mean David So say the N word a lot back then and even in some videos he says the N word with the A like it’s just a word. People would cancel David in an instant if they didn’t understand where David grew up.
@@kouleeofficial it’s a good thing that people can go back to all his podcast episodes where he owns up to it. He also stresses that people should have the chance to grow and reflect/apologize past behavior.
Had a conversation with someone close to me about separating the art from the artist and I guess I never really thought about having a hard line. I guess when people say things it may not exactly be cancel worthy and that actions speak louder than words. Thanks David for giving a different perspective on this 🙏
I feel, personally, that it's hard to separate the art from the artist because a true artist puts a piece of themselves into their art. Every piece I make has some part of me and my story in it. If we separated those two, then there would be no art piece left.
People are angry at David Cho over his massage story AGAIN? This was like 2015, David already went through the canceled cycle. He got flack, burned bridges, ended his podcast, lost his show with Vice and other projects too. Also people kept vandalizing his murals. David already apologized about his joke and and no victims came out. The fact that people think David didn't lose anything and act like his DVDASA podcast is still going, like it didn't end years ago is hilarious. This is just more cancel culture bandwagon nonsense. Is David still wrong for joking about that kind of topic? YES. Has David been toxic? YES. David has been going on other podcast for years talking about how he's been bettering himself and making amends with others. But it's crazy how this tiktok generation keeps digging up old hatchets that have been long buried.
Agreed. i think everyone is still clout chasing with topics even if they are as extreme as Choeys. it’s fine if people wanna talk about it but it’s clear as day all these people who are late to the party are just that and have nothing better to do. i don’t mind David and Ed talking about it, but this is old news and most of these people don’t really care about what david choe said. they’re (as in the public via tiktok) only upset that a rich and famous and talented guy is more successful than them. netflix isn’t gonna cancel beef because of choe. if you look at the story, it’s likely not gonna have a second season anyways. that last episode does not need a season 2. and if it did, i wouldn’t watch it because the first is a masterpiece. when people try to milk more money out of a good thing you know it’s gonna be horrible. just like these comments from the woke who are about 10 years late to the party. if anything david choe might not get a supporting acting award because of the controversy lol. grow up tiktok.
Well see this isn't a joke idk why everyone keep saying that shit tf was the punchline that he was a rapist ? He told the story as if it was real well no fucking shit ppl finna get mad , and if he made it up guess what , word has consequences
OMG Did not know that about David Cho. (I thought he was some crazy guy that lived with tribal people that ate bamboons or something.) I'm so glad I finished watching the whole show the day it came out. I loved "Beef!" It was one of the best shows I've watched recently. I hope the show doesn't get cancelled.😢 It's such a good show.
David Choe has said in the Rich Roll podcast that he has this compulsive nature where he wants to +1 someone else's story, where he has to compete with the other person in the room without having a point. Does not excuse the story, be it true or not. But not to pull away from your podcast, it is a good reference to the whole story of his nature
Man, the David cho story is so fucked up. 1. If that was a lie, the man is creepy af because he had put some serious thought in that story. Almost as a fantasy. 2. There are a lot of abusers that had been molested as kids, so I do not think that those two categories are mutually exclusive. As David So said, the fact that it is a recurrent topic it's really suspicious. BTW, hearing Steven laughing at r*p*ng culture was very disappointing
I'll chalk up Steve laughing as a nervous laugh. We've all been there where someone says something so fucked up we all laugh a little because we just don't quite know how to process it.
Reminds me if when Bart got flamed for saying he raped a guy with his friends with a broom. While he told the story before and his friend wanted to do it and bart stopped him, it didnt stop bart from being flamed for making that kind of joke.
He's done standup. Maybe you wouldn't formally call him a comedian, but that doesn't mean he isn't doing a comedic bit coming up with these horrific stories. I'm an artist, I know a lot of artists, 99% of us have the most dark, messed up sense of humor. My husband was abused, he's always making SA jokes. Also, BPD people do things that will push people away because they're so scared of being abandoned for who they are. They self sabotage.
Do you guys remember the JK News episode where Bart literally says him and a friend beat up a class mate and stick a broom up his ass? straight SAed him... David was there too... and didnt say anything....🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂
Bobby lee also did something similar. He told a story about him SAing an underage girl in Tijuana and how the fact that her crying and her nose running made him more excited. I can't believe some people think thats ok to joke about.
David defaced that Anthony Bourdain mural because apparently Anthony wouldn't want to be remembered that way. There are a few articles on this and yes it sucks that he destroyed the original artist art.
Man.... I am so glad for the guest to talk about David Choe and give actual insight to the situation unlike David So who didnt prepare much at all and had really nothing to contribute.
That clip of the podcast triggered the fuck out of me due to my own SA but yes you can cancel David Cho if you want but I don’t understand canceling the whole show due to one person. I’m on David on the whole Cho is a habitual liar so it’s hard to know if he’s lying or not about this story. Whether or not it’s a fabricated story it’s still fucked it that he thought it would be okay to tell a story like that.
So...this has been a non-issue for years now. You can even hear on the DVDASA episode that David said it was always a joke. Joe Rogan asked if anyone is going to come out with a different story and Cho said "Nope, because its made up." Nobody has and nobody will because it was just a made up story. He said he told it to try and get a reaction because nobody was listening to him, because DVDASA would sometimes record 8-10 hours at a time for multiple episodes. He was trying to get a reaction from the crew because they were drifting after recording for so long. Internet just being the internet as usual.
See the problem with that is ,he told it as a "story " not a joke there was no punchline and hearing it ,it sounded like he was proud of it and even if it was made up guess whay that doesn't make it any fucking better like you told everybody that your a rapist and u got mad when ppl start treating like a rapist well no fucking shit
Yea I'm with you. The biggest thing I hate is a liar. Idc what it is or what you did but don't lie about it. My sister is bipolar and she was also sexually assaulted. She makes a lot of jokes about fucked up stuff. And she embellished stories sometimes. Also she talks about weird fantasies she had but she never actually did. I feel like David story has a bit of truth and a lot of lie. There is definitely some truth to the things he talks about but he creates this whole lie and picture around this tiny part of the truth.
Its actually hilarious David So is calling out other people for lying when his whole shit on JKNews was lying and making shit up 😂he needs some self awareness
I feel like that’s what it’s about, do what you enjoy doing , and make enough where you’re not in survival mode anymore where you can breathe. That’s enough and then you can pass on the wealth to the next person who needs it spreading the wealth. the 0.1% still thinking if they had 1 more billion they’d be happy, until they make that and still feign for more it’s wild.
The story doesn’t sound fake. Maybe he did it to an illegal immigrate sex-worker so that she couldn’t or can’t make herself reveal as the victim? (Countries they came from maybe would put shame on those victim girls…in that case those girls would never come out and also they probably have no idea who he was/is… Another my theory is that may be he committed it in Japan or Korea or in some other 3rd world country where he was/is not famous and and again it is hard for her to make herself reveal as the victim kinda situation? Also, that girl friend rape fantasy sounds like one of Japanese’s typical porn stories. He must have been a low-key Japanese porn fan. I love Eddie’s input in every part and I totally get David So’s rage towards habitual liars. That masseuses rape story instantly make my blood boiled. We need more ppl like David So who talks about the common sense sh*t regardless who the f they are. What a great episode!
i think music portrays emotions and tells stories in a linear sense and comedy brings to light opinions and ideas to reflect on, with or with out story telling. Keep up the vids love your channel and work.
Respect to you David for calling a spade a spade. FYI i am a fan of Choe....i've listed to every dvdasa episode, but also can see people for what they are. congrats on stating facts...keeping it 100 :)
i didn’t know about this, although i did watch/thoroughly enjoy beef… this guy is a fucking rapist. some traumatic experiences i’ve had with different men have had a lot of the same/similar things described by the aggressor in this situation, david cho. this is so disgusting… and so fucking triggering and hurtful to hear. he thinks violating someone’s personhood and humanity, and potentially scarring them is a fucking joke… this is disgusting. thank you david for standing up for what is right, and expressing your disgust and anger at this dudes “story”… seriously so meaningful ✌🏽
Ppl need to calm down, there isn’t even a victim that came forward? I like how ppl take these stories seriously but when rappers talk about killing and raping it’s all art.
@@DCarlo301 just looked it up. They passed the bill late last year in California. They can still use rap lyrics in court, it just holds minimal value as evidence.
I hadnt got around to watching this before all of the stuff came out. I personally wasnt going to watch because I hadnt watched it anyways so I wasnt invested. I think the thing that solidified that decision was seein Ali and Steven go private. They ran from accountability until they all got a statement together and then put it out as a justification for their actions. I dont care if people watch it. That has nothing to do with me. And i dont think it should be canceled. I feel like everyone should watch it or dont based off their personal convictions and move on.
I barely made it through the first episode of Beef and with the David Cho stuff coming to light, gives me a reason to not bother finishing the rest of the show.
This is sad cause the show is really good and it has a lot of good people in it that worked super hard. If you watch the show, they do make him out to be the bad guy, so maybe that will help you watch it?
Sad that David Choe's character in the show is a cunning resemblance to what ppl are saying he actually is in real life. If that's how the ppl behind the show wanted him to be (himself), should probably consider recasting. Got to be done. Sorry, as much as we want to support our Asian actors, unacceptable behavior is unacceptable behavior.
Currently living in Kapolei from Waianae 🙋♀️ it’s because people are lazy. Period. the government gave them an easy out with “Covid”. A lot of businesses are dealing with that.
First, thanku DavidS for saying the obvious when it comes to hearing anyone talk about SA nonchalantly as the perp, joke or no joke. Society truly doesnt have enough people speaking out against misogyny, abuse, s3x crimes. It makes an important difference when society hears more men speak out against such atrocities. Also, imma need this comment by Ed a part of my life motto, "do ihave to make a decision about this motherfukr? He's not a part of my life and nothing he ever does affects my life." 😂 I dont mean that in the grand scheme of things but isure like this quote for many pretentious a$$holes who keep asking me if iknow xyz, like does it matter? 😂 Anyways great content as always thanku David 👍
people did a lot of things for shock value in the past. it doesnt make it right. i mean bobby lee also had an equally disturbing shocking story but again...im sure a lot of it was embellished. we're now in a day in age where those kinds of stories dont slide but we have to remember that in the past, ppl said and did a lot of dumb things for clout. ie shane dawson saying how he masturbated on his cat, making pedo comments, etc. if david cho already apologized for it, then he shouldnt have to keep doing it again and again just like how kevin hart made insensitive remark about not wanting his son to be gay. he shouldnt keep being punished for something he already apologized for. we cant digging up someone's past and demand apologies or cancellations especially if it was already atoned for!!!
I think they can’t go to hard on Steven Yeun some people don’t have a way to process, sometimes when I hear cringy or crazy things I just smile awkwardly or laugh awkwardly
The only question you should ask is, do you believe it or not. I think he made it up. Just like he made up so many things for this podcast. He's already been cancelled or punished several times over this incident, so then you move on. I mean it happened 10 years ago already and it's on repeat
Awesome episode! I hope David Choe is lying because him being in BEEF was a really good choice and the controversy is putting a lot of people off of watching BEEF which sucks.
I realized that most Korean parents and probably most struggling parents teach their kids early on to lie and cheat as long as there's cost benefit....Despite being told not to lie, how many of us were told to say that we're 5 for a bus ride or movie or Disneyland. Then the parents proudly brag to others that they saved money because they taught their kids to lie. To save $12 at a buffet, I told my 7YO son that he's got to be 6 for today. He asked why he had to be 6....then I realized that I almost sold his soul and morality for $12 bucks....and then realization that I've been trained to justify cheating, lying and stealing since very young by my own parents. Why do kids lie?....well some kids because their parents proudly taught them to lie and cheat and technically steal from others since early age.
lieing is good depending on context. even if ur in the "wrong" u remain silent and continue to deny. its up to the court to prove u dont come out admitting
Omg, that’s why I purposely skip the episodes that Ed two is in because all he does is fake laugh at stuff that isn’t funny while David carries the episode
Good luck trying to cancel someone who’s net worth is over 200M. Choe’s worth more than most Hollywood A listers. He’s definitely got more money than Steven and Ali…
I don't understand why people are pushing to cancel the show because of one actor behavior. A lot of people's hard work went into producing this show.
Because America, that’s why.
"Some people suck" - Tom Segura
@@iBeatBoxz8 not just america
Regular ppl get doxxed but celebs get away with almost everything. You gotta think about that for a sec
@Azenith yea, but that has nothing to do with the show. That's one individual and he just so happens to be in the show. You can cancel him but why the whole show? Doesn't make sense.
If it’s a lie it’s quite detailed and graphic.. and was told multiple times. And also… if it was a made up “joke”, wtf is funny about it???
That's the thing about David Cho, he's such an idiot there's no logic behind the made up bs that comes out of his mouth. Yes it's very detailed but the dude is such a good liar and he's made a habit out of it that he's gotten so good at lying. I'm in the camp that believes that story was 100% made up. If you watch him on Joe Rogan's podcast, he spews so much bs out of his mouth it can be hard to tell which parts of his stories are real and which parts are made up.
Was never a fan of David Cho and was disappointed to see he was casted in this series, but I still loved the series and ain't gonna punish Steven Yuen and Ali Wong for it. Was still a great show. Just wish David Cho wasn't a part of it.
David Choe is a weird as mofo
That's the thing too, it's really easy to say "it's actually just a lie" once you start getting flak knowing any victim that might be out there can't come forward. If he tells so many tall tales who can say if the claim was a lie, or him denying it is?
@k A movie is meant to be detailed because you're literally watching everything as it happens, that's a horrible comparison and not at all the smoking gun you think it is.
@k just bc you aren’t affected by rape (weird) doesn’t mean others aren’t. You should probably keep your thoughts to yourself 😬
one of my most favorite things is seeing the creators I grew up with grow into something so humble and so happy they found there selfs. everyone grows up and we are all human . being real is one of the rarest things these days tbh. from watching David , Tim ,Wong fu Productions , a lot of the asian creators in middle school from now its crazy . I've been subscribed to David for so long its like this weird journey I know all of us who have followed him are just so proud of him! and a lot of his friends! keep up the good work David!
The thing that messed me up about David Cho's story is that at one point he says he wanted to be hated as much as he hated himself when he told that story, but he wasn't. Dude didn't lose his friends, his podcast, his fans, nothing. Dude used the very real trauma workers are forced to endure like a joke and wasn't punished for it at all until now. Only once he finally starts getting some flak YEARS later he wants to talk about how depressed he was and how hard his time was.
People who endured the kind of assault David Cho lied about committing had to watch him proudly "admit" to it, see no consequences, and now have to hear him sulking about how it was just a lie and listen, he was really depressed when he said that.
He actually did push away many of his friends so you are wrong
@@propertymanager9149 Him pushing away friends is not the same as friends leaving him for admitting to rape, nor does it cover the fact that he faced no real consequences for the admission. Rapists should be in jail, not on a podcast laughing about how successful they are. Lie or truth, he didn't get what he deserved either way.
@@CL-lx2pm what consequences should he face when there’s no victim? Get over yourself please
@@propertymanager9149 You expect to be able to claim you committed a violent sex crime on a livestream and face no consequences so long as you play it off as a joke for attention later? Get over yourself, please.
As much as I get your point I think it highlights the issue with our culture. What does this guys life have to do with any of ours. Why should I feel worse because of what this guy did or didnt get away with? Especially when hes far from a normal person. His life is hardly comparable to regular people so I wouldnt use him as an example for my own life. Celebs get away with shit that regular people would be punished for and thats not new. We'd all be better off if we stopped putting so much weight/value on these people
Thank you for sharing your perspective David! Seeing so many people online dismiss this issue made me feel really disheartened, so I appreciate this video a lot
Why isnt Bobby Lee getting same judgement as David Cho when they both had similar themed jokes and justification of telling the jokes from the asian american community?
Because BEEF uses Netflix as a distributor which faces more scrutiny
What bobby lee joke are you talking about? I can only think of the one about him being molested by a slow guy, which is actually a true event. And he was the victim in that.
Bobby Lee is talented and Funny!!! David is not who he claims to be... Wow he's a liar. What can you believe of him at all now?
@@k-el1ku is he not an actor though?
Bobby lee now is also getting brought up now and his story is coming into surface again he talked about it recently
really refreshing convo, thank you for covering this whole issue. every point in this felt really important and needed. i needed this personally, especially the last part, so thank you.
Our boy Ed is back 🎉🙌🏻
The better Ed 🎉
Asa as as in Asa Akira? If a adult film industry actress is against what Choe said, you know he’s in the wrong.
They did a podcast together called DVD asa or something like that, bobby Lee was on it a lot.
@k interesting 🤔
@k shhh you will ruin the echo chamber
We love you David. Never change ❤
I was watching GeniusBrain podcasts for years and it helped me so much in terms of relationships finance and motivation, they gave me the push to find away to save myself and move from a third world country with no goals no job no future and moved to the US to finally achieve my goals. so I will forever be grateful for David and his guests
Great episode by the way! Nice to hear people speak from the heart ❤️
I don't know anything about david cho, the actor. But to listen to that bit you played, triggered me. I am still processessing it all. His tone, the way he told the story made it sound like he was totally aware, knew what he was doing, and knew it was rape. I am shooketh to say the least. I don't know what to believe though. It's terrifying either way, if it was a lie or him honestly doing it. I like how you both delved deep into what could potentially make a person the way they are. Sometimes some people turn out good after the sh*t storm they were handed. Sometimes people don't. It's so important to get quality mental health help.
I mean David So say the N word a lot back then and even in some videos he says the N word with the A like it’s just a word. People would cancel David in an instant if they didn’t understand where David grew up.
@@kouleeofficial that shits still weird asf lol
@@kouleeofficial it’s a good thing that people can go back to all his podcast episodes where he owns up to it. He also stresses that people should have the chance to grow and reflect/apologize past behavior.
@@lonelypatios suburb kid?
Had a conversation with someone close to me about separating the art from the artist and I guess I never really thought about having a hard line. I guess when people say things it may not exactly be cancel worthy and that actions speak louder than words. Thanks David for giving a different perspective on this 🙏
Been waiting to hear y’all’s opinions on this, still tune in for your episodes as usual but so glad to hear you and Ed’s take
I loved this whole conversation
And thank you David for keeping it 100!
I feel, personally, that it's hard to separate the art from the artist because a true artist puts a piece of themselves into their art. Every piece I make has some part of me and my story in it. If we separated those two, then there would be no art piece left.
Art is an imitation of reality.
No. Being an artist does not excuse you to be a terrible human being. Period. I say this as an artist myself.
People are angry at David Cho over his massage story AGAIN? This was like 2015, David already went through the canceled cycle. He got flack, burned bridges, ended his podcast, lost his show with Vice and other projects too. Also people kept vandalizing his murals. David already apologized about his joke and and no victims came out. The fact that people think David didn't lose anything and act like his DVDASA podcast is still going, like it didn't end years ago is hilarious. This is just more cancel culture bandwagon nonsense. Is David still wrong for joking about that kind of topic? YES. Has David been toxic? YES. David has been going on other podcast for years talking about how he's been bettering himself and making amends with others. But it's crazy how this tiktok generation keeps digging up old hatchets that have been long buried.
Agreed. i think everyone is still clout chasing with topics even if they are as extreme as Choeys. it’s fine if people wanna talk about it but it’s clear as day all these people who are late to the party are just that and have nothing better to do. i don’t mind David and Ed talking about it, but this is old news and most of these people don’t really care about what david choe said. they’re (as in the public via tiktok) only upset that a rich and famous and talented guy is more successful than them.
netflix isn’t gonna cancel beef because of choe. if you look at the story, it’s likely not gonna have a second season anyways. that last episode does not need a season 2. and if it did, i wouldn’t watch it because the first is a masterpiece. when people try to milk more money out of a good thing you know it’s gonna be horrible. just like these comments from the woke who are about 10 years late to the party. if anything david choe might not get a supporting acting award because of the controversy lol. grow up tiktok.
Well see this isn't a joke idk why everyone keep saying that shit tf was the punchline that he was a rapist ? He told the story as if it was real well no fucking shit ppl finna get mad , and if he made it up guess what , word has consequences
Every action has a consequence. People crying woke are just mad that they have to live w/ the consequences of their actions.
OMG Did not know that about David Cho. (I thought he was some crazy guy that lived with tribal people that ate bamboons or something.) I'm so glad I finished watching the whole show the day it came out. I loved "Beef!" It was one of the best shows I've watched recently. I hope the show doesn't get cancelled.😢 It's such a good show.
David Choe has said in the Rich Roll podcast that he has this compulsive nature where he wants to +1 someone else's story, where he has to compete with the other person in the room without having a point. Does not excuse the story, be it true or not. But not to pull away from your podcast, it is a good reference to the whole story of his nature
Man, the David cho story is so fucked up.
1. If that was a lie, the man is creepy af because he had put some serious thought in that story. Almost as a fantasy.
2. There are a lot of abusers that had been molested as kids, so I do not think that those two categories are mutually exclusive.
As David So said, the fact that it is a recurrent topic it's really suspicious.
BTW, hearing Steven laughing at r*p*ng culture was very disappointing
I'll chalk up Steve laughing as a nervous laugh. We've all been there where someone says something so fucked up we all laugh a little because we just don't quite know how to process it.
About the boardain mural: it is actually very common for artists to paint over other murals.
Reminds me if when Bart got flamed for saying he raped a guy with his friends with a broom. While he told the story before and his friend wanted to do it and bart stopped him, it didnt stop bart from being flamed for making that kind of joke.
Beef honestly was the best show I’ve ever seen not gonna lie shit hit home
Fr it was absolutely incredible, A24 hits every time, shame for it to be overshadowed by this shit
Omg Ed! You’re famous now?! I’m so proud of you!!! This podcast was too long to watch but I “liked it”Rooting for you 😊😊😊
He's done standup. Maybe you wouldn't formally call him a comedian, but that doesn't mean he isn't doing a comedic bit coming up with these horrific stories. I'm an artist, I know a lot of artists, 99% of us have the most dark, messed up sense of humor. My husband was abused, he's always making SA jokes.
Also, BPD people do things that will push people away because they're so scared of being abandoned for who they are. They self sabotage.
Do you guys remember the JK News episode where Bart literally says him and a friend beat up a class mate and stick a broom up his ass? straight SAed him... David was there too... and didnt say anything....🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂
I forgot about that, that was so disgusting :/
Wait really?? Can you post a link
Bobby lee also did something similar. He told a story about him SAing an underage girl in Tijuana and how the fact that her crying and her nose running made him more excited. I can't believe some people think thats ok to joke about.
david: i do it for fun
me: (remembering he made "ball handle")
Great episode guys!
Man I had such a similar upbringing as that kid that was not only bullied by kids at school, ppl at church made fun of me my whole life until I broke
I admire the realness of this episode
that story made my stomach turn..
Also. Simu watching this like 👁👄👁 the fuck did i do LOL
David defaced that Anthony Bourdain mural because apparently Anthony wouldn't want to be remembered that way. There are a few articles on this and yes it sucks that he destroyed the original artist art.
Where is this store at in Washington?
Man.... I am so glad for the guest to talk about David Choe and give actual insight to the situation unlike David So who didnt prepare much at all and had really nothing to contribute.
People don't realize that art back then was about being "outrageous".
David you gotta talk about the Kings dawg. I know you a fan
EDIT: lmao nevermind forget what I said
MAN if David got this role It would be funny af, making joke ever part
1:22:20 THIS SEGMENT GIVES ME LIFE. THANK YOU GUYS FOR CALLING THIS OUT. I'M LIBERAL AND TIRED OF THIS BS. FUCK HOLLYWOOD.
That clip of the podcast triggered the fuck out of me due to my own SA but yes you can cancel David Cho if you want but I don’t understand canceling the whole show due to one person. I’m on David on the whole Cho is a habitual liar so it’s hard to know if he’s lying or not about this story. Whether or not it’s a fabricated story it’s still fucked it that he thought it would be okay to tell a story like that.
So...this has been a non-issue for years now. You can even hear on the DVDASA episode that David said it was always a joke. Joe Rogan asked if anyone is going to come out with a different story and Cho said "Nope, because its made up." Nobody has and nobody will because it was just a made up story. He said he told it to try and get a reaction because nobody was listening to him, because DVDASA would sometimes record 8-10 hours at a time for multiple episodes. He was trying to get a reaction from the crew because they were drifting after recording for so long.
Internet just being the internet as usual.
See the problem with that is ,he told it as a "story " not a joke there was no punchline and hearing it ,it sounded like he was proud of it and even if it was made up guess whay that doesn't make it any fucking better like you told everybody that your a rapist and u got mad when ppl start treating like a rapist well no fucking shit
Yea I'm with you. The biggest thing I hate is a liar. Idc what it is or what you did but don't lie about it. My sister is bipolar and she was also sexually assaulted. She makes a lot of jokes about fucked up stuff. And she embellished stories sometimes. Also she talks about weird fantasies she had but she never actually did. I feel like David story has a bit of truth and a lot of lie. There is definitely some truth to the things he talks about but he creates this whole lie and picture around this tiny part of the truth.
Its actually hilarious David So is calling out other people for lying when his whole shit on JKNews was lying and making shit up 😂he needs some self awareness
I feel like that’s what it’s about, do what you enjoy doing , and make enough where you’re not in survival mode anymore where you can breathe. That’s enough and then you can pass on the wealth to the next person who needs it spreading the wealth. the 0.1% still thinking if they had 1 more billion they’d be happy, until they make that and still feign for more it’s wild.
David so I hope you call out Bobby Lee as well then. Keep the same energy.
He won’t
The story doesn’t sound fake. Maybe he did it to an illegal immigrate sex-worker so that she couldn’t or can’t make herself reveal as the victim? (Countries they came from maybe would put shame on those victim girls…in that case those girls would never come out and also they probably have no idea who he was/is…
Another my theory is that may be he committed it in Japan or Korea or in some other 3rd world country where he was/is not famous and and again it is hard for her to make herself reveal as the victim kinda situation?
Also, that girl friend rape fantasy sounds like one of Japanese’s typical porn stories. He must have been a low-key Japanese porn fan.
I love Eddie’s input in every part and I totally get David So’s rage towards habitual liars.
That masseuses rape story instantly make my blood boiled.
We need more ppl like David So who talks about the common sense sh*t regardless who the f they are.
What a great episode!
Yuuuuuurrrrrrrr ... Nyc here
i think music portrays emotions and tells stories in a linear sense and comedy brings to light opinions and ideas to reflect on, with or with out story telling. Keep up the vids love your channel and work.
It's a fake story. They also talked about eating dog, incest, and all sorts of fake 90's shock jock stuff.
Respect to you David for calling a spade a spade. FYI i am a fan of Choe....i've listed to every dvdasa episode, but also can see people for what they are. congrats on stating facts...keeping it 100 :)
i didn’t know about this, although i did watch/thoroughly enjoy beef… this guy is a fucking rapist. some traumatic experiences i’ve had with different men have had a lot of the same/similar things described by the aggressor in this situation, david cho.
this is so disgusting… and so fucking triggering and hurtful to hear. he thinks violating someone’s personhood and humanity, and potentially scarring them is a fucking joke… this is disgusting.
thank you david for standing up for what is right, and expressing your disgust and anger at this dudes “story”… seriously so meaningful ✌🏽
Love u David
Bro def lost weight. Looks great man. Haven’t watched ya for like 3 years or so
David wearing shoes is throwing me off lol GREAT episode .
I genuinely want to hear David’s thoughts on Bobby Lee as well.
Dark David has entered the chat
Ppl need to calm down, there isn’t even a victim that came forward? I like how ppl take these stories seriously but when rappers talk about killing and raping it’s all art.
Awww.. they are literally using rap lyrics to lock rappers up 😒
@@sidewest2778 they are banning that
@@DCarlo301 they are trying to in California...
@@sidewest2778 wasn’t already decided?
@@DCarlo301 just looked it up. They passed the bill late last year in California. They can still use rap lyrics in court, it just holds minimal value as evidence.
I’m still watching Beef. David Choe is a brilliant artist
During that time we did have a high covid rate in Hawaii. We still have covid going around here.
I hadnt got around to watching this before all of the stuff came out. I personally wasnt going to watch because I hadnt watched it anyways so I wasnt invested. I think the thing that solidified that decision was seein Ali and Steven go private. They ran from accountability until they all got a statement together and then put it out as a justification for their actions.
I dont care if people watch it. That has nothing to do with me. And i dont think it should be canceled. I feel like everyone should watch it or dont based off their personal convictions and move on.
I barely made it through the first episode of Beef and with the David Cho stuff coming to light, gives me a reason to not bother finishing the rest of the show.
This is sad cause the show is really good and it has a lot of good people in it that worked super hard. If you watch the show, they do make him out to be the bad guy, so maybe that will help you watch it?
Not a good reason not to watch the show
He's not even the main character dude have some strength or just let an idea ruin your enjoyment
The lulu lemon part got me so hard 😂😂😂
Bro has a Tacoma Rainiers hat.... props.
I find it hard to believe david cho was just joking
17:30 see if you can get this guy on the podcast i wanna see what he has to say
I like how david calls cho a phony but then say we exaggerate stories
I think some people lie so much that they forget what the truth really is??? Lost. Wow! Just blown away by the mural thing... Sucks dude 😔
Sad that David Choe's character in the show is a cunning resemblance to what ppl are saying he actually is in real life. If that's how the ppl behind the show wanted him to be (himself), should probably consider recasting. Got to be done. Sorry, as much as we want to support our Asian actors, unacceptable behavior is unacceptable behavior.
Currently living in Kapolei from Waianae 🙋♀️ it’s because people are lazy. Period. the government gave them an easy out with “Covid”. A lot of businesses are dealing with that.
His character was the best one the show. Loved it
Hey I just wanted to take the time to say that I love Ed
I loved BEEF. 🔥🔥🔥
People need to chill, cancel culture is wild. He apologized and it’s done. Move on.
Anyone else feel old when ed ask if we remembered blockbuster.
David is a 100 millionaire he doesn't care about being cancelled
First, thanku DavidS for saying the obvious when it comes to hearing anyone talk about SA nonchalantly as the perp, joke or no joke. Society truly doesnt have enough people speaking out against misogyny, abuse, s3x crimes. It makes an important difference when society hears more men speak out against such atrocities. Also, imma need this comment by Ed a part of my life motto, "do ihave to make a decision about this motherfukr? He's not a part of my life and nothing he ever does affects my life." 😂 I dont mean that in the grand scheme of things but isure like this quote for many pretentious a$$holes who keep asking me if iknow xyz, like does it matter? 😂 Anyways great content as always thanku David 👍
David is the fucking man! Respect!
people did a lot of things for shock value in the past. it doesnt make it right. i mean bobby lee also had an equally disturbing shocking story but again...im sure a lot of it was embellished. we're now in a day in age where those kinds of stories dont slide but we have to remember that in the past, ppl said and did a lot of dumb things for clout. ie shane dawson saying how he masturbated on his cat, making pedo comments, etc.
if david cho already apologized for it, then he shouldnt have to keep doing it again and again just like how kevin hart made insensitive remark about not wanting his son to be gay. he shouldnt keep being punished for something he already apologized for.
we cant digging up someone's past and demand apologies or cancellations especially if it was already atoned for!!!
I think they can’t go to hard on Steven Yeun some people don’t have a way to process, sometimes when I hear cringy or crazy things I just smile awkwardly or laugh awkwardly
But the issue is he then went and hired him years later. So he's obviously cool w/ it.
I thought it was danny cho lol too 😂❤
Mario wasn't really Italian. Suppose to be Japanese
I absolutely have a blue check for my 4,000 character schizo posts.
Is david choe's last name supposed to be pronounced cho or choi?
You know what would of been funny, if the guy took the time off but at last day before coming back in, decided quit 🤣 I would 100% do that
David Choe look a like😂😂😂
I'm not surprised by David Cho's creativity and mental illness because I think they come from the same place of the brain
Get david cho on the podcast
The only question you should ask is, do you believe it or not. I think he made it up. Just like he made up so many things for this podcast. He's already been cancelled or punished several times over this incident, so then you move on. I mean it happened 10 years ago already and it's on repeat
Awesome episode! I hope David Choe is lying because him being in BEEF was a really good choice and the controversy is putting a lot of people off of watching BEEF which sucks.
Now I wanna change my name to Vivian and only wear lulu lemons
LOL about momofuku...Went to one in Vegas all the Asian customers had this WTF is this expression.
44:14
I realized that most Korean parents and probably most struggling parents teach their kids early on to lie and cheat as long as there's cost benefit....Despite being told not to lie, how many of us were told to say that we're 5 for a bus ride or movie or Disneyland. Then the parents proudly brag to others that they saved money because they taught their kids to lie.
To save $12 at a buffet, I told my 7YO son that he's got to be 6 for today. He asked why he had to be 6....then I realized that I almost sold his soul and morality for $12 bucks....and then realization that I've been trained to justify cheating, lying and stealing since very young by my own parents.
Why do kids lie?....well some kids because their parents proudly taught them to lie and cheat and technically steal from others since early age.
lieing is good depending on context. even if ur in the "wrong" u remain silent and continue to deny. its up to the court to prove u dont come out admitting
😂34:09 wow David wow all Asian ppl dnt look alikeeeeeee lol
I understand people who don't like David Choi but to cancel the whole show that he is only partly in. Is stupid
Omg, that’s why I purposely skip the episodes that Ed two is in because all he does is fake laugh at stuff that isn’t funny while David carries the episode
Good luck trying to cancel someone who’s net worth is over 200M. Choe’s worth more than most Hollywood A listers. He’s definitely got more money than Steven and Ali…
i loooooooooove this podcast omg. you two are such intelligent people
Beef is amazing. BTW
David looks healthier here but he still so extra….