Having practised Zen meditation for 25 years I would say pick whichever of the mystical traditions that inspires you to practice and then follow it all the way to the end. "Many paths lead from the foot of the mountain, but at the peak, we all gaze at the single bright moon." - Zen Master Ikkyu.
If you want to fix the audio phase issues between mics and cut down on editing time, swap those lavs out (I'm guessing they're omni) for cardioid, or try super/hyper-cardioid condensers, or even shotguns just out of frame. The shots are tight enough that you could have a mic for each person just above their head. Great interview and great job navigating the phase issues. It's barely noticeable most of the time. Aloha!
@@lifescansdarkly Shotguns can be bad indoors, depending on the room and treatment. I'd try other options first, but yeah, anything is worth a shot, that phase is pretty rough. Great content though, and most folks wouldn't even notice the phase and editing.
I used to deal poker in a London casino to these old school poker pros and they were amazing in their intuition, especially from my perspective because I had no skin in the game. On the negative side, they were like sharks.
Sophia, in Gnosticism, is not an Earth Goddess as Alexander was making out, she's an Aeon. The Aeons are emanations of the creator God, and come in pairs (one male, one female) called Syzergies. These Syzergies descend hierarchically from the creator God and are only allowed to reproduce with their partner when given permission from God. Sophia transgressed this law by giving birth herself, without her male partner and without permission from above - essentially a virgin birth. The result of this transgression is the Demiurge, a lower/lesser reflection of the creator God, who went on to create the material world.
there's something missing in this discussion of game theory. What's missing is an understanding of desire. Our "games" are driven by the desires of the participants. Our desires are not just rational choices. Our desires are mimicked from others. Once you understand that, you can see how shared desires lead to inevitable conflict over scarce resources. And then, according to Rene Girard, to the scapegoating and sacrifice of a person to let off the steam of the community in conflict. ua-cam.com/video/LSzF2OG2ejI/v-deo.html
In a globalized mostly capitalistic society connected in real time via social media its not surprising that we end up in in more tragedy of the commons and race to the bottom type scenarios right? Apart from that i think a game theoretic approach can be applied no matter wether choices are based on reason or desire...
@@teiuq true, but to understand the situation it pays to understand the drivers behind it. As an aside, there are no truly rational choices, they always ultimately stem from values.
I agree we mimic others, but it falls apart as a totalizing theory. Growing up is learning other ways to be. No leader solely mimics. People develop visions and work toward them in creative ways that the idea of mimicry just can't capture. Einstein the mimic imagining a ride on a photon... yeah, no.
I've liked an explanation of game theory optimal play vs imperfect play being sub-optimal that Liv has described in a different interview. If you're playing "Rock-Paper-Scissors", the GTO strategy is complete randomness - roll a d6, and play rock with 1-2, paper with 3-4, scissors with 5-6. But if you're playing someone who is completely predictable (like, always playing rock, or cycling through rock, then paper, then scissors in turn) your GTO will win 33% of the time, draw 33% of the time, and tie 33% of the time - but you can do a lot better by anticipating your opponent's move.
"Nine out of ten of what we call new ideas are simply old mistakes. The Catholic Church has for one of her chief duties that of preventing people from making those old mistakes; from making them over and over again forever, as people always do if they are left to themselves..." -G. K. Chesterton
Kind of a long-winded way to say they're all about repression. In my day the injunction was to avoid sin and the near occasion of sin. That's black and white, clockwork thinking. Whether by design or not, they discourage novelty, innovation, and joy, so the people have left.
And they excuse their own mistakes by referring to the nobility of their mission, which is condescension. My eighty-something mom remarks from time to time about the low quality of the new priests. Imho Catholics are not attracting any talent. These days nobody looks to the church for guidance. It is dead in its traditions.
Even if what you are talking about is guidance through the mythos provided by the Church, the approach to mythos in the Catholic Church does not effect what Ancient Greeks did with myth: there, they actually amplified the dilemma of decision using myth, so that decision became inevitable, in the Criterion. Neurosis and suffering seem to come from indecision in this worldview. The Catholic Church don't want decision makers, nor, by extension wisdom in it's subjects - they only want disciples to its creed, which is not wisdom gleaned from the lived experience of its subjects.
Coup d'oeuil, translated literally may seem like what you said it means but it is actually a collocation that means a "glance" or "glimpse" which ties in perfectly with what you described as it's a view or scene that happens quickly, is gone and leaves an impression.
@Futures yes, there is always a choice, personally I have chosen not to participate in the WSOP in Vegas this year, which I have for at least 4 weeks since 2006. Not a chance I will ware a stupid mask or take the shot, (not interested in being Giannini pig for Gene Therapy) Poker was a big part of my life, made lots of money, but my "Choice" was to become independent, relying very little on money. In the very near future that choice will prove to have been a very wise one. "Cheers"
When we coming ro entropy, and complexity, you can distinguish a dynamics of information processing of humans un general. From birth, we try to soak up as much information as fast possible, but with time we try to reduce complexity by simplify information. So while everything approaches equilibrium, we fight against it in all sense. With time you more aware the importance of efficiency, calculate and use your energy to move in space or make any effort necessary to survive. So effectively being wiser and more mature is a process where you appreciate low energy state
The precepts in Buddhism actually describe how a fully enlightened being behaves. To a Buddha, there are no precepts. Acting against the precepts leads to suffering. However, it can take a long time to realise this and a lot of us have to learn about karma the hard way.
Claire is talking like her. Is it already possible to copy intelligence onto something like a chip through Neuralink? Or maybe they are just on a similar level naturally. The more I listen to Liv the more I like her. Subscribed 😘
The complex system has many levels which emerge and have different rules, properties. Moloch is optimisation at one level, that breaks at the next level. We need resonance to flow through the levels, which is spirit.
@@r1reis Thanks! This specific formulation is mine but highly informed through ideas of John Vervaeke, in particular the series 'The Elusive I'. Though hasten to add he might view it as nonsense...
Competition could be seen as a form of differentiation while cooperation could be linkage. Complex systems need to walk a tightrope between the two (both must be equally valued, neither blocked) to allow the system to flourish. Which it should on its own given such conditions.
How do I learn more about this version of gnosticism? I never read anything about it being like, the earth as a living goddess and yahweh as the false, non existent God!?
It's not like he said. I made a comment above which I'll repeat here for you, Jennifer: 'Sophia, in Gnosticism, is not an Earth Goddess as Alexander was making out, she's an Aeon. The Aeons are emanations of the creator God, and come in pairs (one male, one female) called Syzergies. These Syzergies descend hierarchically from the creator God and are only allowed to reproduce with their partner when given permission from God. Sophia transgressed this law by giving birth herself, without her male partner and without permission from above - essentially a virgin birth. The result of this transgression is the Demiurge, a lower/lesser reflection of the creator God, who went on to create the material world.' To Gnostics, the Old Testament god is the Demiurge which I mentioned above, although they don't call him Yahweh. The Logos (Word) of the New Testament (basically Jesus) came down to teach us this truth. You can read about this in the Nag Hammadi Scriptures, or just have a search online.
@@xWingzTV lost but crippled woods partner with a straight flush that even Liv missed. Was fun week watched a 8 handed cash game with at least a million on the table
1:04:40 It's not so much about externalities as about the difference between infinite and non-infinite games. It may have been game theory optimal to be selfish and take the money, but as Liv has seen there have been consequences through out her life. It would have been better to split the money and then even if you lose people will have sympathy for you. There is actually a strategy that has to my mind never bettered in game theory which is roughly 'co-operate until somebody betrays you, then never co-operate with that persona gain unless they first co-operate with you', and that can serve you very well.
57:02 - It appears, to me, that the universe is expressing increased complexity in pattern and is progressing from physical space (matter) into pure pattern space. The physical human brain, connected to countless other human brains forms the most complex physical object Nature has managed. She's moving into pattern space... And we humans are the means for that transition. Or something like that. :-)
The reason that there is 100 x dystopian art Vs utopian art is that utopian stories would be boring. A story with no obstacle to overcome, no bad guy, just everyone being nice and doing nice things is boring when it comes to entertainment.
Life and Humanity weighed against the history of the universe may seem complex but the consumption of fuel which is required by life is actually accelerating the heat death of the universe and bringing us closer to an equilibrium state
Her definitions of good and evil are morally wrong and come from the intellect. We need to practice meditation to return to a state of peaceful simplicity.
As long as people are being told that it's still not too late to avert the worst consequences of climate change, those who already believe that they are already personally among the least likely to suffer the worst consequences due to their wealth, advanced age, or geographic location on the planet, the less likely a "best outcome for everyone" seems to be a likelihood. Maybe, if more people were disabused of the notion that they will be spared the worst of it because of their advantages, a "religious" impulse might inspire them to step up. I haven't quite worked out how to do it. I feel certain that most people are starting to accept that it's real, but not a personal threat. Can game theory be used to get all players interested in a best outcome for everyone? @40:00
Does this help a little? Human beings are pattern recognition machines Patterns here Patterns there Patterns everywhere What do they mean Are they promises Are they warnings Are they predicting the unforeseen Look at those numbers Those stars Those cards Those hints That convince of conspiracy Leaves in a cup of tea Who's that hiding in the bread mould Could it be the God of old Is that His face staring at me Who else could it be Maybe His mother Mary Three good things in a row On a winning streak Don't change your lucky socks Don't change your lucky shoes Don't change your lucky anything Patterns here Patterns there Patterns everywhere Intuitions Superstitions Apparitions All manifestations of a beautiful mind's obsession With pattern recognition
The question of balancing the goal with the greater good is partly addressed by considering time. Jordan Peterson is good on this subject, the "meta game" ua-cam.com/video/yuyY0BlZs4c/v-deo.html
It's not about complexity vs moloch - it's simply about diversurdity. The universe tends toward, and likes, diversurdity. What is more absurd than diversity? Uniformity is easy, elegant, rational. For reasons beyond me "diversurdity" is the will of the universe.
Simply species survival is not a game...it's a moral decision. People have to want to cooperate, work together, and lose the tribalism and selfishness. That's the real question.....game theory has little to do with it unless you believe that humans are unconscious.....it's a conscious decision to survive together.
"Imagining a dystopia is easier than imagining a utopia"? I surely don't think so... Christianity has been preaching a utopia for over 2000 years. Currently, the most prevalent (false) spiritual movements are based on positive thinking. Movies with happy endings are very frequent. People love to say "it's going to be ok"... How is a utopia more difficult to image?
WRONG! Christianity doesn't preach utopia, particularly not by man's hand...what your saying is actually polar opposite. Secondly, Christian is not the same as a follower as the Bible, and particularly not anymore if it ever was...don't blame the book for the work of those who say they any religion...religion itself is NOT anymore indicative of the words in the book...even if it was, man's actions are the fault of the man, not what he was told to belive bc he didn't feel it useful to actually know instead of having a notion...that's called propaganda
I worked out Poker is 99% luck, anyone with a basic grasp of O level maths-probability has as much chance as winning as any one else. Which is why there are no regular winners of tournaments.
Einstein says, “No problem can be solved from the same consciousness that created it.” So this lady or rebel wisdom, which is a clever name, because just by naming your group wisdom doesn’t mean that you have wisdom, or all these so called sense making experts are swimming in the same field of conditioned consciousness, so their is no way humanity can survive this madness that man has created, all these activities and solutions are generated from the same ground that crisis of humanity is manifested, so any solution that human mind has come up with, has become a greater problem, especially in psychological field, social media is the product of conditioned mind, all human activity has self-interest behind it, that’s what we corrupt everything we touch. But at least you are trying to understand why we are in such a crisis, your trying has become a game, because the ‘SELF’ is running the show and you think that you are in control, which is the source of our conflict and madness, well keep playing this game maybe your true‘intuition’ shows up. After listening to this conversation over 40 minutes, what came to my mind was, tradition damages human mind, now I see what a really damaged brains sounds like, as more information accumulated in the brain, it’s complexity increases exponentially, therefore it’s ignorance and it’s limitation, I don’t know how such a minds have a little space of attention to connect to life, people think through knowledge they can get to solve human problems, and get to enlightenment also, what a mental trip, they don’t see the damage religions have done to human mind, now they want another one, so more modern religions to be invented, I feel that this conversation is so mechanical that’s like two robots are talking, is this what’s sense making looks like, I can go on, but last word, you have to reach complexity with simplicity, but these two brains don’t know what is simplicity. This is a show off of knowledge of two egos who are drunk with Self show off, is this what you call enquirers? We are doomed if these are the people who are telling rest of us how to make sense of this confused world, saving world is not issue or a goal, it’s minds clever way for fame and wealth. What a insight this guy just said, “ego disconnected from self” if this is not madness I don’t know what is, pure ignorance of human conditioned mind.
I absolutely hate the idea of having a religion, but I have a feeling the world "religion" popped up here by default, a bit like the word tolerance replaces empathy in many cases. What we lost with religion, and had with it, is the sense of inherent purpose in existence, and actually being a part of a whole of some kind. At this point most of us feel like we're stranded in vacuum of space except that space is our mind. Nothing that happens in our interaction with the environment has organic structure anymore, everything is mechanistic and inorganic (in a sense that its natural complex structures are overridden by techno-bureaucracy. But on top of that loss of faith (not religion) gives us this useless feeling of nihilism because we want things to matter inherently. But everything matters in complexity, the thing is we as individuals don't matter as much as our egos want us to matter. But as a pack of disorganised mammals we're destroying the planet. Awesome scenario - personal impotence to stop the extinction and collective downfall into it :D
Liv said she doesn't like traditional religious rules, but how does she know those aren't the rules optimised after thousands of years of trials? Out experiment in promiscuity since the 1960s has only lead to broken hearts and broken families. Choosing a religion that satisfies all your whims is self evidently a Terrible idea no different to a diet of chocolate.
I think there is some truth in what you say. Culture tends to be shaped by technology though, hard to imagine that contraceptives wouldn't change monogany. I dont know what the answer is but i agree, a life chasing your every desire is disasterous and unfulfilling.
The precepts in Buddhism actually describe how a fully enlightened being behaves. To a Buddha, there are no precepts. Acting against the precepts leads to suffering. However, it can take a long time to realise this and a lot of us have to learn about karma the hard way.
@@peterhardie4151 good point. Technology is a shield, a barrier, a "garment of skin" between us and reality. Almost literally in the case of some contraception. But technology has many unintended and unwanted consequences. One is the loss of meaning and purpose in what we do. We have sex because it feels good, not to generate life. We eat chips because they taste good, not for their nutrition. We lift weights to look good, not to build. Our lives are one big LARP and then we wonder why we have no meaning and purpose.
thats exactly what 3rd wave frminism has always been about, old feminists wore pantsuits and wanted to be treated like men, now they wanted to be appreciated as women and are trying to dismantle patriarchy and misoginy instead of joining it, thats what all the backlash about "not like other girls" was all about, I understand you may have been in a cave for a decade I dont know your life but legally blond came out like 18 years ago.
I can’t’ get past this dude’s hair. It looks like he put axle grease on what’s left of it with a roofing trowel, knocked his teeth around with it, and tied off the leakage in the back of his head with that tiny pony bun before striding confidently into a place where he knew he’d be filmed and possibly seen by dozens of others.
@@miketomlin6040 I’d consider it the opposite. The whole idea is to visually impress a certain subsection of the population. It’s a cue to others of the same imagined ilk, like pink hair, tattoos, nose rings, biker or goth gear. It has nothing to do with being true to one’s self. It’s conformity in its most pathetic manifestation. It’s like customizing your character in a video game and thinking it looks cool instead of totally dorkish. It isn’t about Not caring, it’s about caring so much about how you look that you choose to risk that a single match will set you and everyone else around you on fire. If you didn’t care, you wouldn’t bother to put the effort in to look like that.
@@jimj9040 The look he has reminds me of Engineering students circa 1976, the not interested in style or appearance psyche. Usually due to a lack of beauty in the face, so what's the point! Liv is similar here, or her disinterested choice of clothing, hair style, etc. Neither look ''cool'' or seem interested in being ''cool''. You could call it a conformity of sorts, here a conformity to the notion appearance is an irrelevance.
@@miketomlin6040 it astounds me that you can’t see this as an intentional look in every facet. The woman didn’t stand out in any respect. He represented himself as he probably does every day. He wants to attract others with hippy intellectual vibes and presents himself in exactly that manner. He surrounds himself with others of the same kind and therefore is seldom if ever mocked. You can only get away with that look within a small community of people who will accept you. That becomes your world, and you end up running around proudly looking like an idiot. I would call attention to the pretentious guy in the bar in “ Good Will Hunting”. This is how this dude comes off,and is proud to be so. Unoriginal, and bad amalgamation of others ideas.
@@jimj9040 We probably share little cross cultural empathy here. In the UK the male and female's look here or image would be seen as dull, distinctly non -'hippy' and may well attract a fair smattering of mockery due their bland generic appearances.
Having practised Zen meditation for 25 years I would say pick whichever of the mystical traditions that inspires you to practice and then follow it all the way to the end. "Many paths lead from the foot of the mountain, but at the peak, we all gaze at the single bright moon." - Zen Master Ikkyu.
If you want to fix the audio phase issues between mics and cut down on editing time, swap those lavs out (I'm guessing they're omni) for cardioid, or try super/hyper-cardioid condensers, or even shotguns just out of frame. The shots are tight enough that you could have a mic for each person just above their head. Great interview and great job navigating the phase issues. It's barely noticeable most of the time. Aloha!
Yeah I noticed that as well, but it didn't detract from the content. Sennheiser 416s would solve that.
@@lifescansdarkly Shotguns can be bad indoors, depending on the room and treatment. I'd try other options first, but yeah, anything is worth a shot, that phase is pretty rough. Great content though, and most folks wouldn't even notice the phase and editing.
I used to deal poker in a London casino to these old school poker pros and they were amazing in their intuition, especially from my perspective because I had no skin in the game. On the negative side, they were like sharks.
@StimParavane what does skin in the game mean? thanks
@@socialjusticewarrior2316 it means he wasn’t playing so wasn’t invested emotionally or financially.
Intuitive ability, with regards to choice, is not appropriate in every circumstance. Always good to include a good observation of probability.
@@SyBa-SyKo always a good idea
Sophia, in Gnosticism, is not an Earth Goddess as Alexander was making out, she's an Aeon. The Aeons are emanations of the creator God, and come in pairs (one male, one female) called Syzergies. These Syzergies descend hierarchically from the creator God and are only allowed to reproduce with their partner when given permission from God. Sophia transgressed this law by giving birth herself, without her male partner and without permission from above - essentially a virgin birth. The result of this transgression is the Demiurge, a lower/lesser reflection of the creator God, who went on to create the material world.
Yes this is a good description - had to boil it down quite a lot - and 'Sophia' as the earth is a more contended interpretation
Every once in a while I come across Liv and every time I wonder why I don’t listen to her more often.
She has a UA-cam channel you should subscribe!
there's something missing in this discussion of game theory. What's missing is an understanding of desire. Our "games" are driven by the desires of the participants. Our desires are not just rational choices. Our desires are mimicked from others. Once you understand that, you can see how shared desires lead to inevitable conflict over scarce resources. And then, according to Rene Girard, to the scapegoating and sacrifice of a person to let off the steam of the community in conflict. ua-cam.com/video/LSzF2OG2ejI/v-deo.html
don't drink the Thiel-Girard koolaid
In a globalized mostly capitalistic society connected in real time via social media its not surprising that we end up in in more tragedy of the commons and race to the bottom type scenarios right?
Apart from that i think a game theoretic approach can be applied no matter wether choices are based on reason or desire...
@@darktorrent_ if we discard every great thinker just because we don't like one person who also listens to them, we wouldn't get anywhere
@@teiuq true, but to understand the situation it pays to understand the drivers behind it. As an aside, there are no truly rational choices, they always ultimately stem from values.
I agree we mimic others, but it falls apart as a totalizing theory. Growing up is learning other ways to be. No leader solely mimics. People develop visions and work toward them in creative ways that the idea of mimicry just can't capture. Einstein the mimic imagining a ride on a photon... yeah, no.
I've liked an explanation of game theory optimal play vs imperfect play being sub-optimal that Liv has described in a different interview. If you're playing "Rock-Paper-Scissors", the GTO strategy is complete randomness - roll a d6, and play rock with 1-2, paper with 3-4, scissors with 5-6. But if you're playing someone who is completely predictable (like, always playing rock, or cycling through rock, then paper, then scissors in turn) your GTO will win 33% of the time, draw 33% of the time, and tie 33% of the time - but you can do a lot better by anticipating your opponent's move.
"Nine out of ten of what we call new ideas are simply old mistakes. The Catholic Church has for one of her chief duties that of preventing people from making those old mistakes; from making them over and over again forever, as people always do if they are left to themselves..."
-G. K. Chesterton
catholic church is a pedofile ring.
@@simonasvaitiekunas5326exceptions prove rules
Kind of a long-winded way to say they're all about repression. In my day the injunction was to avoid sin and the near occasion of sin. That's black and white, clockwork thinking. Whether by design or not, they discourage novelty, innovation, and joy, so the people have left.
And they excuse their own mistakes by referring to the nobility of their mission, which is condescension. My eighty-something mom remarks from time to time about the low quality of the new priests. Imho Catholics are not attracting any talent. These days nobody looks to the church for guidance. It is dead in its traditions.
Even if what you are talking about is guidance through the mythos provided by the Church, the approach to mythos in the Catholic Church does not effect what Ancient Greeks did with myth: there, they actually amplified the dilemma of decision using myth, so that decision became inevitable, in the Criterion. Neurosis and suffering seem to come from indecision in this worldview. The Catholic Church don't want decision makers, nor, by extension wisdom in it's subjects - they only want disciples to its creed, which is not wisdom gleaned from the lived experience of its subjects.
Partying is short term gain for a long-term pain..
This woman has an amazing mind. Wildly brilliant.
Opening question: Sitting on a boat, can we navigate to the edge of the ocean?
Liv: It's all ocean as far as I can see - and where's that boat?
If everyone cooperates and no-one defects, who‘s left to discover if there are better games out there?
They cover this point in the video... watch the full thing next time 🙂
surely you're missing that creating better 'games' through cooperation on the same goal of creating better 'games' that work for all
Coup d'oeuil, translated literally may seem like what you said it means but it is actually a collocation that means a "glance" or "glimpse" which ties in perfectly with what you described as it's a view or scene that happens quickly, is gone and leaves an impression.
The choice to be optimistic is important. However that should not include wilful ignorance. It's easy to be optimistic when you are delusional.
@Futures yes, there is always a choice, personally I have chosen not to participate in the WSOP in Vegas this year, which I have for at least 4 weeks since 2006. Not a chance I will ware a stupid mask or take the shot, (not interested in being Giannini pig for Gene Therapy)
Poker was a big part of my life, made lots of money, but my "Choice" was to become independent, relying very little on money. In the very near future that choice will prove to have been a very wise one.
"Cheers"
Thanks Liv and Rebel Wisdom!
Whoa!!! Big shoutout to Rebel Wisdom for having Liv on. Thrilled to hear this.
50:15 has he done a podcast on these 'self-replicating' machine angels of the GNostics? Sounds cool!
When we coming ro entropy, and complexity, you can distinguish a dynamics of information processing of humans un general. From birth, we try to soak up as much information as fast possible, but with time we try to reduce complexity by simplify information. So while everything approaches equilibrium, we fight against it in all sense. With time you more aware the importance of efficiency, calculate and use your energy to move in space or make any effort necessary to survive. So effectively being wiser and more mature is a process where you appreciate low energy state
The precepts in Buddhism actually describe how a fully enlightened being behaves. To a Buddha, there are no precepts. Acting against the precepts leads to suffering. However, it can take a long time to realise this and a lot of us have to learn about karma the hard way.
Claire is talking like her. Is it already possible to copy intelligence onto something like a chip through Neuralink? Or maybe they are just on a similar level naturally. The more I listen to Liv the more I like her. Subscribed 😘
Fantastic conversation. You guys might want a better/more compelling title here ;-)
Really enjoyed that, will definitely be following Liv
She was a marvelous and refreshing guest!!! Congrats!
The complex system has many levels which emerge and have different rules, properties. Moloch is optimisation at one level, that breaks at the next level. We need resonance to flow through the levels, which is spirit.
goddam, best description i've heard to this day, is that yours or did you see it somewhere?
@@r1reis Thanks! This specific formulation is mine but highly informed through ideas of John Vervaeke, in particular the series 'The Elusive I'. Though hasten to add he might view it as nonsense...
@@evanblackie7510 cool, i will check it out for sure. Allso, what do you work with, if i may ask?
Competition could be seen as a form of differentiation while cooperation could be linkage. Complex systems need to walk a tightrope between the two (both must be equally valued, neither blocked) to allow the system to flourish. Which it should on its own given such conditions.
Many psychologists say that people with antisocial personality disorder (colloquially known as psychopaths) have "cold" or "cognitive empathy".
How do I learn more about this version of gnosticism? I never read anything about it being like, the earth as a living goddess and yahweh as the false, non existent God!?
It's not like he said. I made a comment above which I'll repeat here for you, Jennifer:
'Sophia, in Gnosticism, is not an Earth Goddess as Alexander was making out, she's an Aeon. The Aeons are emanations of the creator God, and come in pairs (one male, one female) called Syzergies. These Syzergies descend hierarchically from the creator God and are only allowed to reproduce with their partner when given permission from God. Sophia transgressed this law by giving birth herself, without her male partner and without permission from above - essentially a virgin birth. The result of this transgression is the Demiurge, a lower/lesser reflection of the creator God, who went on to create the material world.'
To Gnostics, the Old Testament god is the Demiurge which I mentioned above, although they don't call him Yahweh. The Logos (Word) of the New Testament (basically Jesus) came down to teach us this truth.
You can read about this in the Nag Hammadi Scriptures, or just have a search online.
Was at a table with her and james woods in a doubles tournament in world series was awesome
Did you win or lose?
@@xWingzTV lost but crippled woods partner with a straight flush that even Liv missed. Was fun week watched a 8 handed cash game with at least a million on the table
1:04:40 It's not so much about externalities as about the difference between infinite and non-infinite games.
It may have been game theory optimal to be selfish and take the money, but as Liv has seen there have been consequences through out her life.
It would have been better to split the money and then even if you lose people will have sympathy for you.
There is actually a strategy that has to my mind never bettered in game theory which is roughly 'co-operate until somebody betrays you, then never co-operate with that persona gain unless they first co-operate with you', and that can serve you very well.
57:02 - It appears, to me, that the universe is expressing increased complexity in pattern and is progressing from physical space (matter) into pure pattern space. The physical human brain, connected to countless other human brains forms the most complex physical object Nature has managed. She's moving into pattern space... And we humans are the means for that transition. Or something like that. :-)
So the best intuition still wins. Now it just determines which game theorist wins.
:D
"which state of mind would I rather live in"
You're a GENIUS. LOVE to both of you. 😇👽💙
Is this an Illuminated channel?
Awesome segment u guys, TY! 🤯😍🙏
We have two opposite ideas in complexity, as a negative of technology, and as a positive of ecology and meaning. Great!
The reason that there is 100 x dystopian art Vs utopian art is that utopian stories would be boring.
A story with no obstacle to overcome, no bad guy, just everyone being nice and doing nice things is boring when it comes to entertainment.
Cooperation with pockets of competition - this made me think of "socialism with Chinese characteristics"!
There is untrained intuition just as there is untrained rationality. Just thought I would mention 😉
The combination of smartphones and social media is psychologically damaging our young women.
This was fantastic! Thank you
We should never succumb to negative thinking. No-matter-what.
Life and Humanity weighed against the history of the universe may seem complex but the consumption of fuel which is required by life is actually accelerating the heat death of the universe and bringing us closer to an equilibrium state
She was fascinating
What is intuition? .... as far as we know...
52 mins in - you need to interview Cynthia Bourgeault about the Law of Three 👍
Her definitions of good and evil are morally wrong and come from the intellect. We need to practice meditation to return to a state of peaceful simplicity.
Liv is lovely and I could listen to her all day. You need to reach out to Charlie Carrel who is ridiculously lovely too.
Perhaps the singularity is a state of complete simplicity with infinite potential...
Amazing that you didn't even mention decentralized finance
The best definition of intuition which I found lies between the teachings of Dave Snowden and Iain McGilchrist...
As long as people are being told that it's still not too late to avert the worst consequences of climate change, those who already believe that they are already personally among the least likely to suffer the worst consequences due to their wealth, advanced age, or geographic location on the planet, the less likely a "best outcome for everyone" seems to be a likelihood. Maybe, if more people were disabused of the notion that they will be spared the worst of it because of their advantages, a "religious" impulse might inspire them to step up. I haven't quite worked out how to do it. I feel certain that most people are starting to accept that it's real, but not a personal threat. Can game theory be used to get all players interested in a best outcome for everyone? @40:00
Does this help a little?
Human beings are pattern recognition machines
Patterns here
Patterns there
Patterns everywhere
What do they mean
Are they promises
Are they warnings
Are they predicting the unforeseen
Look at those numbers
Those stars
Those cards
Those hints
That convince of conspiracy
Leaves in a cup of tea
Who's that hiding in the bread mould
Could it be the God of old
Is that His face staring at me
Who else could it be
Maybe His mother Mary
Three good things in a row
On a winning streak
Don't change your lucky socks
Don't change your lucky shoes
Don't change your lucky anything
Patterns here
Patterns there
Patterns everywhere
Intuitions
Superstitions
Apparitions
All manifestations of a beautiful mind's obsession
With pattern recognition
The question of balancing the goal with the greater good is partly addressed by considering time. Jordan Peterson is good on this subject, the "meta game" ua-cam.com/video/yuyY0BlZs4c/v-deo.html
So what I'd like to know is, how much she won? That'd be nice to know.
Her total live earnings are £3.8 million. Of course she may have lost all that but it’s still a healthy amount.
Poker is not her only form of income and you will never know the real number since cash games are where the real money is.
Reportedly 4 Million
@@Oldlard yes , that's not " profit " of course. Minus the buy-ins and losing sessions etc , it may be down to a miilion. Who knows ?
It's not about complexity vs moloch - it's simply about diversurdity.
The universe tends toward, and likes, diversurdity.
What is more absurd than diversity? Uniformity is easy, elegant, rational.
For reasons beyond me "diversurdity" is the will of the universe.
You sound like it hurts for you to think
22:38 Religion.
22:39 Believe women.
Good Show! O:)
Simply species survival is not a game...it's a moral decision. People have to want to cooperate, work together, and lose the tribalism and selfishness. That's the real question.....game theory has little to do with it unless you believe that humans are unconscious.....it's a conscious decision to survive together.
I just think "negative dystopia" are better to lymbic hijack attention and interest of most people because humanity is way more driven by fear.
Get Dr Mattias Desmet on the show
"Imagining a dystopia is easier than imagining a utopia"? I surely don't think so... Christianity has been preaching a utopia for over 2000 years. Currently, the most prevalent (false) spiritual movements are based on positive thinking. Movies with happy endings are very frequent. People love to say "it's going to be ok"... How is a utopia more difficult to image?
WRONG! Christianity doesn't preach utopia, particularly not by man's hand...what your saying is actually polar opposite. Secondly, Christian is not the same as a follower as the Bible, and particularly not anymore if it ever was...don't blame the book for the work of those who say they any religion...religion itself is NOT anymore indicative of the words in the book...even if it was, man's actions are the fault of the man, not what he was told to belive bc he didn't feel it useful to actually know instead of having a notion...that's called propaganda
I worked out Poker is 99% luck, anyone with a basic grasp of O level maths-probability has as much chance as winning as any one else. Which is why there are no regular winners of tournaments.
Liv is the person you interview when she flipped head ten times in a row
Einstein says, “No problem can be solved from the same consciousness that created it.” So this lady or rebel wisdom, which is a clever name, because just by naming your group wisdom doesn’t mean that you have wisdom, or all these so called sense making experts are swimming in the same field of conditioned consciousness, so their is no way humanity can survive this madness that man has created, all these activities and solutions are generated from the same ground that crisis of humanity is manifested, so any solution that human mind has come up with, has become a greater problem, especially in psychological field, social media is the product of conditioned mind, all human activity has self-interest behind it, that’s what we corrupt everything we touch. But at least you are trying to understand why we are in such a crisis, your trying has become a game, because the ‘SELF’ is running the show and you think that you are in control, which is the source of our conflict and madness, well keep playing this game maybe your true‘intuition’ shows up.
After listening to this conversation over 40 minutes, what came to my mind was, tradition damages human mind, now I see what a really damaged brains sounds like, as more information accumulated in the brain, it’s complexity increases exponentially, therefore it’s ignorance and it’s limitation, I don’t know how such a minds have a little space of attention to connect to life, people think through knowledge they can get to solve human problems, and get to enlightenment also, what a mental trip, they don’t see the damage religions have done to human mind, now they want another one, so more modern religions to be invented, I feel that this conversation is so mechanical that’s like two robots are talking, is this what’s sense making looks like, I can go on, but last word, you have to reach complexity with simplicity, but these two brains don’t know what is simplicity. This is a show off of knowledge of two egos who are drunk with Self show off, is this what you call enquirers? We are doomed if these are the people who are telling rest of us how to make sense of this confused world, saving world is not issue or a goal, it’s minds clever way for fame and wealth. What a insight this guy just said, “ego disconnected from self” if this is not madness I don’t know what is, pure ignorance of human conditioned mind.
Knowing this woman is connected to the RW/Social Dilemma group gives me hope.
The carthaginians were cananites
Love your work but hate these spoiler intros. So tacky and irritating to skip.
That definition of intuition or gut feeling is one hell of a strawman!
say those again please ...
I absolutely hate the idea of having a religion, but I have a feeling the world "religion" popped up here by default, a bit like the word tolerance replaces empathy in many cases. What we lost with religion, and had with it, is the sense of inherent purpose in existence, and actually being a part of a whole of some kind. At this point most of us feel like we're stranded in vacuum of space except that space is our mind. Nothing that happens in our interaction with the environment has organic structure anymore, everything is mechanistic and inorganic (in a sense that its natural complex structures are overridden by techno-bureaucracy. But on top of that loss of faith (not religion) gives us this useless feeling of nihilism because we want things to matter inherently. But everything matters in complexity, the thing is we as individuals don't matter as much as our egos want us to matter. But as a pack of disorganised mammals we're destroying the planet. Awesome scenario - personal impotence to stop the extinction and collective downfall into it :D
I watched a bit there is nothing new in this maybe her own skills of bluffing and what poker is all about
Sorry to say but we are straight fucked. Hope without a plan is called a wish. Wishes don't get you very far.....
It’s such a crock of nonsense. Rather than explaining GTO in simple terms, she is just going around and around in circles.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was making you believe he didn’t exist.
An even bigger trick was to think the devil was somewhere "out there"
The religion of conspiracy theories?
Sorry, but she looks way better in person
Environmentalism appears to be emerging as a new religion.
and Nietzsche wrote about that 120 years ago after the death of god, there will be new idols.
Doesnt seem like a bad idea to act in a way thats beneficial for the planet.
@@teiuqbeneficial to those in control
Bitcoin, veganism, sports (and sportsmanship) will game-change.
Otherwise, game over.
I wish I had the theory of game to poke her.
Liv said she doesn't like traditional religious rules, but how does she know those aren't the rules optimised after thousands of years of trials? Out experiment in promiscuity since the 1960s has only lead to broken hearts and broken families. Choosing a religion that satisfies all your whims is self evidently a Terrible idea no different to a diet of chocolate.
I think there is some truth in what you say. Culture tends to be shaped by technology though, hard to imagine that contraceptives wouldn't change monogany. I dont know what the answer is but i agree, a life chasing your every desire is disasterous and unfulfilling.
The precepts in Buddhism actually describe how a fully enlightened being behaves. To a Buddha, there are no precepts. Acting against the precepts leads to suffering. However, it can take a long time to realise this and a lot of us have to learn about karma the hard way.
@@peterhardie4151 good point. Technology is a shield, a barrier, a "garment of skin" between us and reality. Almost literally in the case of some contraception. But technology has many unintended and unwanted consequences. One is the loss of meaning and purpose in what we do. We have sex because it feels good, not to generate life. We eat chips because they taste good, not for their nutrition. We lift weights to look good, not to build. Our lives are one big LARP and then we wonder why we have no meaning and purpose.
@@StimParavane ua-cam.com/video/S-tbMQMCQlI/v-deo.html
It would be helpful if Western women could get back in touch with their femininity. We all need to balance and harmonise our yin and yang elements.
thats exactly what 3rd wave frminism has always been about, old feminists wore pantsuits and wanted to be treated like men, now they wanted to be appreciated as women and are trying to dismantle patriarchy and misoginy instead of joining it, thats what all the backlash about "not like other girls" was all about, I understand you may have been in a cave for a decade I dont know your life but legally blond came out like 18 years ago.
Blah blah blah
Liv is one of my favorite birthing humans. 😁
@@SyBa-SyKoshe is brilliant & beautiful.
do you mean “woman”…
@@caterpod lol yeah
@@HeyMichaelLeo : just making sure … considering we live in a “woke” world that seems to think that guys can be pregnant and such…. 😎
@@caterpod lol
I can’t’ get past this dude’s hair. It looks like he put axle grease on what’s left of it with a roofing trowel, knocked his teeth around with it, and tied off the leakage in the back of his head with that tiny pony bun before striding confidently into a place where he knew he’d be filmed and possibly seen by dozens of others.
Might be the thinkers effect here, those who spend a lot of time musing on the this or the that, can avoid the need to visually impress.
@@miketomlin6040 I’d consider it the opposite. The whole idea is to visually impress a certain subsection of the population. It’s a cue to others of the same imagined ilk, like pink hair, tattoos, nose rings, biker or goth gear.
It has nothing to do with being true to one’s self. It’s conformity in its most pathetic manifestation. It’s like customizing your character in a video game and thinking it looks cool instead of totally dorkish.
It isn’t about Not caring, it’s about caring so much about how you look that you choose to risk that a single match will set you and everyone else around you on fire.
If you didn’t care, you wouldn’t bother to put the effort in to look like that.
@@jimj9040 The look he has reminds me of Engineering students circa 1976, the not interested in style or appearance psyche. Usually due to a lack of beauty in the face, so what's the point! Liv is similar here, or her disinterested choice of clothing, hair style, etc. Neither look ''cool'' or seem interested in being ''cool''. You could call it a conformity of sorts, here a conformity to the notion appearance is an irrelevance.
@@miketomlin6040 it astounds me that you can’t see this as an intentional look in every facet. The woman didn’t stand out in any respect.
He represented himself as he probably does every day. He wants to attract others with hippy intellectual vibes and presents himself in exactly that manner. He surrounds himself with others of the same kind and therefore is seldom if ever mocked.
You can only get away with that look within a small community of people who will accept you.
That becomes your world, and you end up running around proudly looking like an idiot.
I would call attention to the pretentious guy in the bar in “ Good Will Hunting”.
This is how this dude comes off,and is proud to be so.
Unoriginal, and bad amalgamation of others ideas.
@@jimj9040 We probably share little cross cultural empathy here. In the UK the male and female's look here or image would be seen as dull, distinctly non -'hippy' and may well attract a fair smattering of mockery due their bland generic appearances.
Aww. Look at young people being serious and flirting.