Hi everyone! Just wanted to clarify my position and the purpose of this video. I personally think accessing these positions needs to be patched at the earliest convenience by Wargaming. As I said in the video they ruin the game for the other 29 players. This video intended to spread awareness around boosting, show the impact it can have and to gather your feedback surrounding the issue.
I don't think these positions need to be removed, so much as WG should rather try and make a similarly reachable, (but difficult) positions available on both ends of the maps
QuickyBaby glad you share this view, the amount of battles I've seen people sit there all game whilst enemy wipe us out leaving them useless and irrevelant for the majority of the battle. also on artic region I noticed someone got a udes up on the high mountain at the north east spawn. albeit a great position which won the battle for them, I agree with it being removed amongst these other "novelty" positions
why didn't you show detailed report? would like to know how much credits he lost shooting all those apcrs. did WG ordered you not to show those sick numbers?
It is an Exploit. It is the same case as T-22 SR mission rigging. Whenever I see player doing something like that (it happened sometimes but very rarely) I simply report them, no matter if they are at my or enemy team.
The red team had 6 tanks left at one point. All they had to do was cap with one tank while all the others work together to put fire on the ridge that the AMX 50B had to get onto to fire down into the cap. There were several very good players on the red team. All it took was a bit of teamwork. But of course its world of tanks so there was no team effort.
digglyda I can't tell if it's you complaining that the player was just lucky or you just being jealous, in these kind of situation, every thing can happen, you make it look so easy but in the heat of battle you would fear that your team mates doesn't work with your *brilliant* strategy
@@lazaruslong697 Doesn't matter now, they made it impossible to ever get close to these positions anymore. All the maps are locked off outside of the main combat area
unless the other side has a similar position over their cap and surrounding areas and have the tanks that can get to it, it gives one side a clear advantage. Good level design always ensures maps are symmetrical in advantages and disadvantages.
I agree with the OP. What did the Ru 251 contribute for most of the battle - they seemed to be driving around not doing very much. Players waste a lot of time getting into these positions rather than supporting the rest of the team.
@@xcvzq not rly 😂 as far as I know they want to increase DMG with standard rounds and increase HP of vehicles but they are not changing prem ammo DMG... But I agree this guy should work for wg 😂
It was super good for blitz. So many tanks were op because they were able to delete their last weakness by spamming „Premmo“ a Comet or a pre all nerf T-54 with the broken heat for example
@@парень-водка that low tier change was stupid by wargaming. They should bring low tier back. They just made it worse... it is now easier to seal club because all low tier tanks got nerved except the collectors and the infamous ke ni otsu and because now there are almost only newbies on low tier. I have tried it i had a 90% wr in a bt-sv over 100 battles which should not be possible XD they made the new players rush tech trees which results in still absolute noobs playing top tier...
How is this the best MM available for the 50 B? Most tanks in the enemy team were heavies (including a Maus, a Type 4, a VK B and an E 75) while the driver of a 50 B would prefer more mediums with soft armor.
Wargaming should probably remove these types of map exploits, but it's not in any way cheating for players to take advantage of them as long as they're available. If something is included in a game, whether intentional or not, there's absolutely nothing wrong with players using that technique. People should do whatever it takes to win as long as they aren't hacking, colluding, botting, or using unauthorized mods. I don't care if some players think a particular tactic is dirty or unfair or dishonorable or whatever. If it gets results, it's the right thing to do.
These spots are supposed to be inaccessible. That would make it an exploit, not a cheat, but tomato tomah-toe. It is bad for the game and makes it unplayable in certain situations. What you call it doesn't make it any better.
Even if it was meant to be inaccessible, it is WG's responsibility to make it inaccessible. Since they are not doing so, it means that they want to promote use of such terrain. Exploits should be fixed ASAP, otherwise, it's not really an exploit.
"Easy to counter! You only need a high amount of team coordination in a online multiplayergame, and for there to be no other enemies nearby; and it's easy to counter that single enemy player!"
I think that if a boost is available for one side of the map providing an advantage, there needs to be some compensation on the other side of the map such as another respective boost or extra cover of some sort. There also needs to be some sort of counterplay to the boost itself, whether that means the boost entrance is right out in the open, or that the mountains are changed a bit so that from some angles players will have shots into it.
You are thinking it wrong. Both teams have different climbs available. And if you are able to climb, you can use the same path. It's about climbing skill. Check Xaneleons channel.
Hunter Bartek There is a counter for a guy sitting still on top of a mountain, it's called Artillery! Oh wait....you all had it nerfed. Guess "artillery discourages camping" was true after all, eh?
I didn't even want the nerf. Although it did make artillery more bearable to play IMO. But thanks for assuming my opinion without giving credence to the fact that everyone has a different mindset.
I never said anythign about gold league or finals??? I was only giving my opinion on how I think they could be improved upon instead of just removing them.
I noticed that 2 crew phrases have vanished from the game. I no longer hear "Looks like that one went right thru" and " Thats gotta hurt". Any idea why?
This reminds me of playing in tanks in Arma King of the Hill, where high mountain ridges are both very effective. But in Arma, they are also very risky, due to the large number of potential opportunities to be out flanked by other tanks, wire guided and heat seeking AT missiles. With these positions in WOT, if you hide behind the ridge line, you are 100% safe.
I know I’m super late to this. But personally on the matter of boosting up places and anything similar on any game. I think yes the developers should patch it ASAP, but anyone who does it while it isn’t patched or finds new ones, can’t be punished or looked down upon (actually they look down upon you with their boosts) they have managed to find a exploit in the game or are using a found exploit. They aren’t cheating or hacking in anyway. Good on them for taking advantage of something broken. If a tank got buffed in a silly accidental way making it just stupid stupid stupid OP. You wouldn’t call it cheating if people were playing it. It’s just takin advantage of an error. Good on them!
I think that strategy is perfectly fine, it's a good use of mechanics. It also counters the completely broken super heavies who love taking shots; probably weren't expecting the shells falling from on top of them!
>lets team die >loads skill rounds >exploits broken game mechanic >is somehow hero GG QB, put someone who isn't a team player on a pedestal. I'm glad he didn't get the 8th kill. He only got that many kills by watching his team die and exploiting a broken section of the map.
Mountain climbing is part of the game. Real life does balance the play field and some vehicles are better than others for this type of effort. The failure of the other team was not killing him when he was spotted twice in the climb and was basically a sitting duck. Personally I have used opposite side climbs as backup spots to support my team capping as the enemy team falls back. Then it really is a surprise.
Really though, who cares? The majority of players in this game are assholes who are interested in A) getting kills B) hearing their gun go "bang". But I guess this is one of those "he shoulda suicided with his shitty teammates!" Arguments.
The position would be fine if there was any form of counter play to it, but only one side gets a camp hole, there's only one way up, and it's relatively artillery safe and very abusable in most tanks
I like the ability to go anywhere the game will allow. It's interesting that, with the redesigned minimaps showing the "inaccessible" areas of the map, it seems that Wargaming did not expect people to be able to get here. It's likely, then, an oversight on their part, but I say fair play to it. Clever thinking like this, when it works, rewards the thought and the risk.
Is it a clever use of game mechanics? Yes. Does/Can it have great implications in the gameplay? Yes. Should Wargaming fix these positions that were supposed to be inaccessible? Damn right they should... I've had some games ruined by some a**holes going up there.
I think these sniping positions are absolutely vital for the development of tanks and game play. Also strengthens the need for arty in game. We have owned climbing tanks for a long times. Used to be anything over 20 specific power could often find a spot to climb and the eternal whiners whined and maps got nurfed and so did tanks! I see no reason why agility should not be a skill we all learn to use. It's fantastic to have mountains accessible to heavy tanks and tankers with brains to go for it! Thanks WOT, Thanks QB!
One of the best replays i ever seen And i prefer more locations like this It's up to players to find this opportunities in game and it make the game more unpredictable and more joyful
I think they need to add ramps (maybe made of collapsed rock faces or ice flows) to make the upper reaches of the map more accessible. Opening up more of the square map space for playing on rather than just making it the playground of the tanks with high power to weight ratios. It would take advantage of all that unused space in the square that the map exists inside of. Also modify the cap circle areas with mounds or monuments or other things to give places for capping tanks to try to hide from incoming fire from different elevated postions.
Interesting to note that in the WGL Grand Finals the teams were climbing into high spots and sniping, and no one complained. I had a favourite spot in Mines just behind the Western spawn point where you could climb the hill and snipe but WoT have blocked it now :( I do agree that they need to be balanced for both sides, but while they last make the most of them. There are plenty of videos showing how to get up there.
Did any of you screamers and cryers notice how long it took for the 50b to climb? he took a big risk and could have been shot/killed many times before he was safe. I find it ok to climb not using it myself though(cant figure it out). I bet many here are using some special mods legal but not all can use them or dont know where to look for them. Just one examble, that special autoaim that is NOT the wot autoaim. SO stop crying because some players can climb a mountain.
Climbing positions should be allowed for light tanks only or for ones with certain ground resistance limit. This guy did great job and did not exploit anything that is not made as intended in game.
There were a few British tanks that were known for climbing mountains, that fact seems to have been forgotten by WG. They seem to have given that ability to tanks that weren't particularly known for it.
I am going to be the first person to say that this was such a stupid move by him especially being a top tier heavy. And I can already tell that it rarely goes well for him looking at his stats. What a detriment to his team.
I'll actually be the first to say that blaming this player's unremarkable stats on this play is silly, considering that there are somewhere around 40 maps now, and you have to spawn on one side to capitalize on this position. so because you can't use this position to consistently affect your stats, this argument pretty much falls apart secondly, this position allowed this player to do a number of things: it allowed this statistically average player to take out several players that significantly statistically outperform them, carry a game with the majority of the teams damage and kills, and take a top 5 slot in damage dealt in that particular tank. a top 5 slot. held by a statistically average Joe player. I'd hardly call that a bad use of a top tier tank. just my two cents tho
lol. When i say tryhard i mean full gold from the start and food. With a cautious dmg farming playstyle. Like how you would play to 3 mark it. And by tryhard i mean going for 4k+ wn8 PS why so TOXIC
For all those saying these positions should be removed... WG purposely let these positions be when they updated the game physics and let you climb hills that were previously impossible to climb due to "invisible" walls... Why should these positions be removed? I mean, the tanks with high p/w ratio can use these positions to their advantage and make up for their low armor for example... I bet some of you would like light tanks to fight you head on in your heavy tanks, with little to no chance of flanking you (because of World of Corridors...) I really hope these positions will be left untouched, even though I only used 2 of them until now. Btw, they are not OP nor game breaking, simply because once spotted, everyone and their mother can shoot at you.
All though it gives advantages it is also risky and time consuming players do this with the risk of being taking from the game and it is a smart way of using game micanics war gaming don't patch it !
gold spammer who exploits unbalanced map design... gg this boosting totally kills the game... wonder when will WG realize and start to do something about this.. when you get tanks in position like this... you can't cap... you cant kill him effectively... yay, 15mins wasted draw....
Well, about the gold spam, yes I'm against that. But having map knowledge and using a position to have an advantage against the enemy team? That's good, it shows that he's a good player.
I'm not the best player, but I think the position is fine. Imo the opposing team knew where he was, and could have easily countered him if they were patient. The position took two key tanks out of the majority of the game. The E-75 was the only one with the right idea. He just needed someone to spot for him. Great vid and commentary QB!
dude you always forget to go on "detailed report" on the end. thats very important to see how much credits he has done and spend for ammunition. do this next time. I saw that you forget this in many vids. multiple times
Well. I have to say that if you are not very good in this game or u dont have the required experience, then these positions wont help u alot. Only if u know what u r doing. Then these positions become far too over powered. Of course u cannot blame the players for takeing this smart position in game. Like why wouldnt u go up there if u can. And u know that u will get an advantage over other players. Still i cant decide if i would want it to get patched out or not.
back in the day in most every games exploits was considered the same as hacking and a bannable offense. that being said. on to the reasons why, 1: it gives players unfair advantages over everyone, and total advantage over some, (gun elevation that some tanks cant shoot up that high) the opposing side does not have this type of advantage so it makes it totally unfair if you are on the north team,,, ect.... 2: this is supposed to be somewhat of a realistic game and climbing mountains(yes i said MOUNTAINS) is far from anything close to realistic and even far from futuristic. maybe if wargaming would use a little of the profits into fixing problems such as this the game would be a little more fun for all. this is super easy to fix and thereafter if anyone caught exploiting should get a nice ban, 1 or 3 days might be a good start. I will bet you that wargaming has already has numerous complaints and ingame reports on people using this exploit. so maybe we need to ask wargaming their stance on this subject and what if any actions will be taken in the future to fix this or encourage the use of this exploit. either way wargaming should make a statement about this very subject.
wow, i am really amazed how you cannot see past your nose on this one,,, 90%+ dont know how or it will take to long for them to get up the hill while putting themselves at a disadvantage to get to that player on top of the hill. and taking snap shots at the cap while up there resetting tanks that cant shoot back, this all will force unneeded drug out games and more draws. try to play the game out in your head before thinking something is good. I mean, really?? you still believe what you wrote now that i have explained it to you? if so, then i can say 100% you did not think the battles through or see how much of an advantage these spots give. at the least just think about it.
wow, you are so out of touch it makes no sense. if you cant get it from what i said then you have no eyesight whatsoever. like I said, you cannot see past your nose. well good gaming, and as it is easy for me to get to these spots still dont make it right, and this is not competitive in the least when a tank can draw a game so easy. that is just total stupidity to make a game with UNFAIR(yes I said UNFAIR) advantages over others. and so funny how you are arguing to keep something that is so unfair to many,, makes me guess that you use the mountains, or you get paid by WGing. either way it makes you out to be not so bright. good gaming to you, and BTW, they will take this out of the game, it is you that is living in a fantasy world thinking tanks can climb mountains. EVEN IN WW2, lmao, wow, talk about fantasy.
I never said tanks could climb mountains. I said the mat even tanks during ww2 could easily climb slopes of 60 degrees. once again you paraphrase not only out of context but also changing the entire wording and basically making it up. further to that poin see this is why you are out of touch,,,, i stated about tanks climbing and that is talking about the hills(mountains) in the game, THAT WAS THE SUBJECT MATTER... go get back on board and stop with walls of text trying to justify the crap you pull in games. so you infact did imply that tanks could climb mountains , that is #1, #2 my friends and myself go rock climbing and this is where it is funny,,, NO JEEPS CANNOT climb up most mountains, wow, you are really dense. and we have awesome rock climbers,,, again, you are trying to make sense out of what you are saying that really makes no sense. wake up bother... you are totally in a fantasy world. try watching the video again and seeing what the question is about the game... GET BACK IN TOUCH! i am done with you, you have no IQ and if you did you sure don't show it with your ramblings about stuff you really have no clue about.
ok, i have to answer to this,, you 60degree crap is not the issue and was never an issue, but let me clearify something about that 60degree you keep shouting about,, little hills on iwo jima could not be topped by tanks, rocky slopes cannot be topped by tanks, their are no roads up the mountains in the game, so i dont know what the hell you keep rambling about you are totally wrong,, again, i just proved it,,, and to go on about how wrong you are--- your definition of a mountain is totally 100% wrong has nothing to do with sea lvl... Do you make this up as you go along and forget about fact checking? wow i didn't have to look up the definition of a mountain but i did anyway just to fact check myself.. you talk about physics, i shown you some examples of how physics actually work, i am sure you will make something up again to debunk what i said,,, i can fact check everything i say and what you say, you should try to do the same instead of making up your own definitions. Now I am 100% positive that you are one of the ones that uses these exploits for how much you are guarding them. so try blowing smoke up someones ass that don't know bullshit when they see it. maybe a 2nd grader is more your speed,, you have not fooled anyone with your crap. and like quickybaby and I and many others say, this needs to be fixed (the sooner the better)
Well, I kind of like these boosted positions. On the one hand, they're realistic: Powerful locations CAN WIN a battle - ask the Spartans about it. On the other hand, they open new ways to play the game: One doesn't have to go through three well-known “alleys“ but can work his/her way up a mountain. It takes time and is risky so one still has to weigh the benefits. It feels like a... fair deal to me. And, like every change to the maps, the community just needs time to adept. The advantage of such a location will drop down when (finally) everyone knows about it.
Hey QB, You can argue that these positions take a long time to get into and therefore they are legit, but really I would really hope to see WG do something about this cause these positions are not welcome for the average players and by no means new players. Which again will get new players to be seal clubbed into oblivion and that is something I feel needs to be changed. More experienced players will do better cause we know something about WoT and have learned from u QB. These locations are mostly used by stat padders and experienced players who want's to fight as unfairly as they can. Most of us players wants to win, that's not a secret. Everthing is fair in War and Love, right? But really is it? What does your own moral say? And is this a real war or just a Game? Well for me it is a game and I love to have fun in my games. These positions in game ruins the fun for me atleast. In clan wars I have seen alot of boosting here and there just to get a tank up somewhere that isn't possible to get to solo. But in randoms we shouldn't have to watch for birds crapping on our tanks.. But this is only my opinion. Hopefully there are more of you that share my opinion so QB have even more on the List he can take to WG and try to make em fix back our fun. Keep working QB, we all have to work hard :)
at least with these positions lightly armored tank have something over the slowass heavy tanks. If we cannot flank in the world of corridors, we can hit 'em from above ;)
These spots are complete bullshit. I've had plenty of draws where light tanks hide in the hills drawing what otherwise would be a victory. Either every tank can go there, or none at all.
Best tactic.. 1. get 3 in cap rest guns looking up. they went in 1s and 2s. 2.. stay away from cap settle for draw simply hide 2 locations in groups of 2/3 and force them to exit hill or take draw.
I don't like how you can defend the cap from a position like this, but I do like it when a map is deliberately designed around the idea of being able to use a mountain, like on the "Cliff" map.
I think is a clever use of game mechanics, some novelty This game is already boring because this lazy WG who won't to create new maps or to reintroduce the old ones Like these boosts... more videos about this !!! Some fresh content for this channel
WOT never aspired to simulate real life, it is a video game. Do you think a real armored combat looks remotely like little bumper cars running around each other in a half square mile fenced area?
Use the maps to their fullest. WG has broken the game with a retarded attempt to make both sides exactly the same (at least statisticly). That effort is irelevant. It's not possible unless you make the map an exact mirror on both sides, making the map physically the same for both teams. Just put all the Retired Maps back in the game. The more games you play the more times you play both sides, getting a statistically neutral side choice. Some Maps, Lights have the advantage. Some Maps, Heavies have the advantage. And some maps, TDs have the advantage. Mediums are too OP on the current crop of nonsense.
Since they changed the mechanics to where you can get up in places like this, jump off a bridge, and roll the tank. I think the ones that use this to there advantage do change the way the battle plays but it doesn't mean that it's unfair. I love getting into these spots. If you think about it if 2-3 tanks out of every battle use these spots and everyone becomes more aware players can get better over time
I'm interested to understand what do you think QB? Because this position is completely game braking. Tell us QB do you think that this win was pissible if this "skilled" player was not up there on "unplayeble" area of the map? If you have a deeper look in the replay you will notice that his team is malting cause I'll say it like Foch "he was try to climb like complere jurk for half of the battle". WG should remove this positions, they don't add anything to the gameplay and they are not showing that players have "skill" to go there. Even they show exactly the oposite, a little boy has a dream to climb a 50b there so he gets premium consumable in order to do it.
Then remove all the corridors from the maps and let the heavies be flankable :/ Yes, he tried to climb there, but during it's climbing attempts, he did waaayyyyy more damage than some dumbass who went straight for his death in the first 2 minutes of the game. People die in WoT with no reason whatsoever. At least this guy managed to carry this game, before, during, and after his climb to that "unplayable" area (which, btw, is totally playable and intended)
These games happen all the time where good players mess up and allow results like this. I honestly think positions like these are good for the game. It makes it more dynamic, although having a mountain range stretch the whole side of the map to allow the other team to take out the defenders up there would make it more balanced.
Arty rapes people just fine nowadays. Got so many games with 4 or 6 artys in game these days. I am happy they are back and those garbage hater humans can continue to cry.
@@dom3827 4 or 6? most ive seen allowed in games is 3... unless you are talking about the entire match and not just single side, if so, then carry on good sir
i loved the move that he drove up the hill... what i didnt like was the moment at the beginning when he instandly dabbed that 2 key and unnecessaryly shot 23 rounds of premium Apcr.
I think it's okey to use such positions, the only problem is that I can't get up there. As a player you have to make the match as unfair as possible and gain as much advantges as possible. It's war, in real live they dont cry around when a tank get's into a hidden position. Stop bitching and crying aroud kids, learn how to play.
My first dislike to your video QB. Not cause it's bad but because it encourages something i consider exploit as many others do. Game is getting worse because of that imho.
You sound like a stand up guy! Enjoying the happiness that comes from other peoples frustrations. AND you needed to come here and tell everyone. Poison.
I asked from support about unrelated but similar exploitation of greyed out areas. Answer was, that they will investigate to these exploits and start to take action against such behaviour in the future. In my own opinion when the area is greyed out as impassable you shouldn't have those exploiting accesses to those locations. Entering such a locations should start a self-destruction sequence to the tank and an invisible barrier should be implemented to the borders of such areas, preventing both spotting and shooting from there. Like a mechanic when you cant shoot when your tank is under water and drowning.
I will say that WG has actually taken out some of the worst of the "mountain goating" positions in the game. If anybody remembers running underwater to the south island on the Arctic map, you'll know what I'm talking about. Especially in something like an RU-251. I did it once to see how overpowered it was.... and oh my god it was gamebreaking. I ended up getting 7K spotting/track damage and 4K damage. I actually sent a message to WG support and told them they needed to change this fast because it offered such an advantage to the south spawn. For once, it only took them about 3 weeks to do something about it. They ended up making the water actually give your tank resistance so not even the fastest tank could reach the position.
As it currently is, these areas that are difficult to access ARE game breaking. They aren't typically evenly spaced between both sides of the map and the advantage of sniping from high-ground is enormous. That being said, it is really cool to see. Definitely not to lose against, but it offers so much utility to those who manage to get up there and use. Some maps really do have a lot of the map borders just taken up by mountain sides or nothing. So it might be cool to see some of those obstacles accessible by lighter vehicles, I'm just torn on whether it'd make the game better or worse
I'm not really sure how I feel about mountain goating, yes it does give you a significant advantage over your enemies but it's so hard to do that most players can't do it so if you manage to successfully get into a position like that then you've kind of earned that advantage. And it's also fun to do! Like Quickybaby mentioned, once you're up there you have little to no arty cover. I don't think it should be removed, but I do think it should be made slightly easier to counter it.
I think the "locations" that players are able to sneak up into are changing how the maps were intended to be played thus providing one team a true advantage and rendering the map broken.
That is what is definitely wrong. No maps except the special events map should not be created with intentions to some kind of gameplay, maps should be balanced with room for creativity from players and thats what this player does, he used all of map possibilities and limits. This is why different types of tanks to use their strength and eliminate weaknesses or will you complain that french LT are so fast that you could not kill them ? Or will you complain about Italian autoloaders because how many shells they have ? Think about it. (sorry for english, I am not native.)
Wow. Seeing this three years after the fact, I know these things: No more Sacred Ground Map, Plenty of Arties in the game now, and Three: That spot was way way WAY OP.
If you dont like people getting up to places then get a tank that can and learn how to get up there. These mountain spots give some nice variety to the sometimes-monotonous battle routine. The problem i have is the many maps that have spots like this on only one side of the map. I say go make cool spots like this that are kinda op but hard to get to on more maps, just make it at least a little symmetrical
I don't have a major issue with what he did. He got lucky that the enemy team kept lemming in 1-2 at a time. Only the E75 tried to do it right by sitting back to shoot when he would crest, and almost got him. But by then the lights were dead and got out-spotted. They could have been easily shut down the AMX if the E75 had at least one more to help snipe him off the ridge when he crested to reset the cap.
I think boosts like these should exist, as they give lightly armored, but agile tanks that advantage they traded in all that armor for. However, I also believe, that there needs to be a valid way to counter this sort of positioning. Artillery might work to some degree, but any tank needs to be able to do so, although with some up front investment. Perhaps another slope that's slow to go up, but an E100 can do it and even though it'll cost a lot of time, it'll do to counter this sort of behavior.
I haven't ever been able to take advantage of these perches - mainly because I suck - but if the perches are accessible using unmodified vehicles, then they are part of the game. It's up to Wargaming to decide whether to eliminate them or add one(s) on the opposing team's side to balance things out.
The opposing team had lots of opportunity to shoot the AMX 50B as it made its ascent. It's not an exploit and it's not a cheat to think laterally and access difficult to reach places. If the opposing team had a couple of SPGs they would have made light work of the mountaineering tanks, too.
I'm not against or for it but here on the Asian server its very common to get light (nimble) tanks up in the hills spotting and sniping including the few nimble spgs, we have just become used to it. I'm sure a tank is designed to be able to utilize (use) the terrain as an advantage on a battle field, an example would be the type 62 / wz131/2 in similar scenario's as this map, such as in the Sino-Vietnamese War were it was reaching positions were heavier tanks could never reach.
Hi everyone! Just wanted to clarify my position and the purpose of this video.
I personally think accessing these positions needs to be patched at the earliest convenience by Wargaming. As I said in the video they ruin the game for the other 29 players.
This video intended to spread awareness around boosting, show the impact it can have and to gather your feedback surrounding the issue.
I don't think these positions need to be removed, so much as WG should rather try and make a similarly reachable, (but difficult) positions available on both ends of the maps
QuickyBaby glad you share this view, the amount of battles I've seen people sit there all game whilst enemy wipe us out leaving them useless and irrevelant for the majority of the battle. also on artic region I noticed someone got a udes up on the high mountain at the north east spawn. albeit a great position which won the battle for them, I agree with it being removed amongst these other "novelty" positions
why didn't you show detailed report? would like to know how much credits he lost shooting all those apcrs.
did WG ordered you not to show those sick numbers?
damir505 You are new here do you?
It is an Exploit. It is the same case as T-22 SR mission rigging. Whenever I see player doing something like that (it happened sometimes but very rarely) I simply report them, no matter if they are at my or enemy team.
The red team had 6 tanks left at one point.
All they had to do was cap with one tank while all the others work together to put fire on the ridge that the AMX 50B had to get onto to fire down into the cap.
There were several very good players on the red team. All it took was a bit of teamwork.
But of course its world of tanks so there was no team effort.
Actually if they all went into cap they would win during a reload
digglyda I can't tell if it's you complaining that the player was just lucky or you just being jealous, in these kind of situation, every thing can happen, you make it look so easy but in the heat of battle you would fear that your team mates doesn't work with your *brilliant* strategy
U don t see this all day, maybe it s the first time and they don t know what to do.
I miss this map. I would literally spend hours in training rooms just climbing up there.
But unfortunately jerks like that 50b we just watched ruined it for everyone
3x UDES in this spot recently, we haf no chance
Ewwww. That makes me so glad i dont play this shit game anymore.
called HE. They can't take a hit anywhere using it.
Nytracus lol
@@lazaruslong697 Doesn't matter now, they made it impossible to ever get close to these positions anymore. All the maps are locked off outside of the main combat area
I personally LOVE those rare battles when we have a mountain goat. Its funny and this is a game.
unless the other side has a similar position over their cap and surrounding areas and have the tanks that can get to it, it gives one side a clear advantage. Good level design always ensures maps are symmetrical in advantages and disadvantages.
Mr Huff'n'Puff that's a great idea then no one can say that the game is unfair
Well said Mr. Huff"n"Puff
Mines is good for this. The huge easter mountain on 1-3 lines can be climbed from both spawns. One of the better climbing spots in my opinion
I agree with the OP. What did the Ru 251 contribute for most of the battle - they seemed to be driving around not doing very much. Players waste a lot of time getting into these positions rather than supporting the rest of the team.
they do mate. just takes time to learn them.
whats game breaking is gold ammo.
MORE PEN = LESS DAMAGE
LESS PEN = MORE DAMAGE
@@xcvzq not rly 😂 as far as I know they want to increase DMG with standard rounds and increase HP of vehicles but they are not changing prem ammo DMG... But I agree this guy should work for wg 😂
It was super good for blitz. So many tanks were op because they were able to delete their last weakness by spamming „Premmo“ a Comet or a pre all nerf T-54 with the broken heat for example
@@streetracingsyndicate9512 wot is broken, many tech tree tanks were removed
Low tier got badly nerfed till its unplayable
@@парень-водка that low tier change was stupid by wargaming. They should bring low tier back. They just made it worse... it is now easier to seal club because all low tier tanks got nerved except the collectors and the infamous ke ni otsu and because now there are almost only newbies on low tier. I have tried it i had a 90% wr in a bt-sv over 100 battles which should not be possible XD they made the new players rush tech trees which results in still absolute noobs playing top tier...
enemy: hey look a mountain goat
*gets the best MM available*
*loads gold*
Don't forget "abuses exploit" :D
Such skill, many advantage, wow!
pay to win. AHAHHAA
Well he isn't really a good player. So its expected.
How is this the best MM available for the 50 B? Most tanks in the enemy team were heavies (including a Maus, a Type 4, a VK B and an E 75) while the driver of a 50 B would prefer more mediums with soft armor.
2 years later they won a blitz tournament thanks to these boosts
Berkay T really? Do you have a link
they did, i remember watching it, they pushed a grille out of bounds and he won the game
It works a bit different in Blitz overall, but it often has the same result is the same
@@sadenuttie2234 Hey, you still want it?
Wargaming should probably remove these types of map exploits, but it's not in any way cheating for players to take advantage of them as long as they're available. If something is included in a game, whether intentional or not, there's absolutely nothing wrong with players using that technique. People should do whatever it takes to win as long as they aren't hacking, colluding, botting, or using unauthorized mods. I don't care if some players think a particular tactic is dirty or unfair or dishonorable or whatever. If it gets results, it's the right thing to do.
These spots are supposed to be inaccessible. That would make it an exploit, not a cheat, but tomato tomah-toe. It is bad for the game and makes it unplayable in certain situations. What you call it doesn't make it any better.
Actually FYI it's toe-may-toe and tomato.
Even if it was meant to be inaccessible, it is WG's responsibility to make it inaccessible. Since they are not doing so, it means that they want to promote use of such terrain. Exploits should be fixed ASAP, otherwise, it's not really an exploit.
Some of these spots have invisible walls making them inaccessible on console. Not all of them though
Well said
If only people were intelligent enough to actually cap and preaim the boost.
easy position to counter... one has to cap and the rest of the team just sit back and nuke the booster when they try to reset
And when it's end game and only 1 or 2 people alive from the South Spawn? This map is broken.
"Easy to counter! You only need a high amount of team coordination in a online multiplayergame, and for there to be no other enemies nearby; and it's easy to counter that single enemy player!"
That would be easy but there is a thing called co-ordination and it dosent exist in this game
I think that if a boost is available for one side of the map providing an advantage, there needs to be some compensation on the other side of the map such as another respective boost or extra cover of some sort. There also needs to be some sort of counterplay to the boost itself, whether that means the boost entrance is right out in the open, or that the mountains are changed a bit so that from some angles players will have shots into it.
You are thinking it wrong. Both teams have different climbs available. And if you are able to climb, you can use the same path. It's about climbing skill. Check Xaneleons channel.
Hunter Bartek There is a counter for a guy sitting still on top of a mountain, it's called Artillery! Oh wait....you all had it nerfed. Guess "artillery discourages camping" was true after all, eh?
You did watch WG League, right? You know they are using different climbs there?
I didn't even want the nerf. Although it did make artillery more bearable to play IMO. But thanks for assuming my opinion without giving credence to the fact that everyone has a different mindset.
I never said anythign about gold league or finals??? I was only giving my opinion on how I think they could be improved upon instead of just removing them.
I noticed that 2 crew phrases have vanished from the game. I no longer
hear "Looks like that one went right thru" and " Thats gotta hurt". Any
idea why?
typeviic1 this game was french
@@iamwhoiam8486 wg is a company in Minsk,Belarus so no not french
@@PaganWolf30 he means french tank
@@kisaragi_san1378 bruh he sais '' GAME''
console still has both of those lines, lol
This reminds me of playing in tanks in Arma King of the Hill, where high mountain ridges are both very effective. But in Arma, they are also very risky, due to the large number of potential opportunities to be out flanked by other tanks, wire guided and heat seeking AT missiles. With these positions in WOT, if you hide behind the ridge line, you are 100% safe.
I know I’m super late to this. But personally on the matter of boosting up places and anything similar on any game. I think yes the developers should patch it ASAP, but anyone who does it while it isn’t patched or finds new ones, can’t be punished or looked down upon (actually they look down upon you with their boosts) they have managed to find a exploit in the game or are using a found exploit. They aren’t cheating or hacking in anyway. Good on them for taking advantage of something broken.
If a tank got buffed in a silly accidental way making it just stupid stupid stupid OP. You wouldn’t call it cheating if people were playing it. It’s just takin advantage of an error. Good on them!
I think that strategy is perfectly fine, it's a good use of mechanics. It also counters the completely broken super heavies who love taking shots; probably weren't expecting the shells falling from on top of them!
Smart use of terrain features; which is quite refreshing from pre-set corridors where you have to load to gold to do frontal pen
>lets team die
>loads skill rounds
>exploits broken game mechanic
>is somehow hero
GG QB, put someone who isn't a team player on a pedestal. I'm glad he didn't get the 8th kill. He only got that many kills by watching his team die and exploiting a broken section of the map.
HERE HERE!
Thanks for your opinion comrade salty. Looking forward to your whine next game.
Mountain climbing is part of the game. Real life does balance the play field and some vehicles are better than others for this type of effort. The failure of the other team was not killing him when he was spotted twice in the climb and was basically a sitting duck. Personally I have used opposite side climbs as backup spots to support my team capping as the enemy team falls back. Then it really is a surprise.
LOL
Really though, who cares? The majority of players in this game are assholes who are interested in A) getting kills B) hearing their gun go "bang". But I guess this is one of those "he shoulda suicided with his shitty teammates!" Arguments.
A year later these type of places have all been removed. I think they’d be great to add spots for small light tanks to hide and spot from
agree
agree
This round would've been way different if there was even one arty on the enemy team
Only been up there in training battles before, Then all the way around to the big peak in the south west area, Looks amazing.
the fact that not all tanks can get up on this locations it's what makes it cool, I like to have some of them
1 min into game, loads gold.
Probably bought QB's new T-shirt
Who cares
noscoper1993
rly
who the fuck cares?? :/
oooooh he loaded gold oooooooooooooh fuck oooooooooooooooooooooooh
you mean 1 second into the game and it was necessary. Did you see this heavily armored butt of the LTTB, hard to pen with a tier 10 heavy ...
The position would be fine if there was any form of counter play to it, but only one side gets a camp hole, there's only one way up, and it's relatively artillery safe and very abusable in most tanks
I like the ability to go anywhere the game will allow. It's interesting that, with the redesigned minimaps showing the "inaccessible" areas of the map, it seems that Wargaming did not expect people to be able to get here. It's likely, then, an oversight on their part, but I say fair play to it. Clever thinking like this, when it works, rewards the thought and the risk.
Is it a clever use of game mechanics? Yes.
Does/Can it have great implications in the gameplay? Yes.
Should Wargaming fix these positions that were supposed to be inaccessible? Damn right they should...
I've had some games ruined by some a**holes going up there.
Yup, i agree.
Its awesome when 3 or 4 ppl on your team spend half the match trying to get into those spots too. 😆👍
meh
the boosts into the middle of mines is kinda cool, stuff like this is pretty lame i think
Cosmin Tirlea iQ
Wow what a great place to snipe from.
ikr, if i watched this video closer to it being uploaded and played WoT at this time, playing arty or TDs on this position would be hilarious
I think these sniping positions are absolutely vital for the development of tanks and game play. Also strengthens the need for arty in game. We have owned climbing tanks for a long times. Used to be anything over 20 specific power could often find a spot to climb and the eternal whiners whined and maps got nurfed and so did tanks! I see no reason why agility should not be a skill we all learn to use. It's fantastic to have mountains accessible to heavy tanks and tankers with brains to go for it! Thanks WOT, Thanks QB!
People saying he abandoned the team didn't notice his over 3k damage in support of the middle before he even went up the hill
I know right? He emptied a few clips of APCR in a tier 10 heavy tank, gotta respect the skill.
One of the best replays i ever seen
And i prefer more locations like this
It's up to players to find this opportunities in game and it make the game more unpredictable and more joyful
I think they need to add ramps (maybe made of collapsed rock faces or ice flows) to make the upper reaches of the map more accessible.
Opening
up more of the square map space for playing on rather than just making
it the playground of the tanks with high power to weight ratios. It
would take advantage of all that unused space in the square that the map
exists inside of.
Also modify the cap circle areas with mounds
or monuments or other things to give places for capping tanks to try to
hide from incoming fire from different elevated postions.
Had a game where a platoon of Type 5 heavies tried to get up there...
...Yeah.
Did they do it?
When something is marked on the minimap as "not accessible" it needs to be F*****G NOT ACCESSIBLE!!!
where does it say "no accessible"?
Exactly
Interesting to note that in the WGL Grand Finals the teams were climbing into high spots and sniping, and no one complained.
I had a favourite spot in Mines just behind the Western spawn point where you could climb the hill and snipe but WoT have blocked it now :(
I do agree that they need to be balanced for both sides, but while they last make the most of them. There are plenty of videos showing how to get up there.
Did any of you screamers and cryers notice how long it took for the 50b to climb? he took a big risk and could have been shot/killed many times before he was safe. I find it ok to climb not using it myself though(cant figure it out).
I bet many here are using some special mods legal but not all can use them or dont know where to look for them.
Just one examble, that special autoaim that is NOT the wot autoaim. SO stop crying because some players can climb a mountain.
Aimbot isn't legal
Aim bot isn’t the same dude
When you were young...
I remember watching this video as it was uploaded...
@@WayOfDro yeah same
Climbing positions should be allowed for light tanks only or for ones with certain ground resistance limit. This guy did great job and did not exploit anything that is not made as intended in game.
Make it easier to get up into those places so we can hunt em down.
Zerbyte why? It then requires no skill and half your team will be up there sniping in light tanks?
QB asked what should be done for ALL those types of positions. Pay attention and grow up a bit.
lol cool spot, can't wait to see if I could use it in unfair mm game :)
Would be cool to think of some counters against it as well
A maus can do the boost. the counter is to do it, it's an extremely easy boost...
There were a few British tanks that were known for climbing mountains, that fact seems to have been forgotten by WG. They seem to have given that ability to tanks that weren't particularly known for it.
I am going to be the first person to say that this was such a stupid move by him especially being a top tier heavy. And I can already tell that it rarely goes well for him looking at his stats. What a detriment to his team.
stats don't mean a damn thing in this game
They are in the game.... Check your service record, what do you think every single thing in there is?
Stats literally matter in every game, whether it be virtual or real. Do you even watch sports? Its a measure of performance.
I'll actually be the first to say that blaming this player's unremarkable stats on this play is silly, considering that there are somewhere around 40 maps now, and you have to spawn on one side to capitalize on this position. so because you can't use this position to consistently affect your stats, this argument pretty much falls apart
secondly, this position allowed this player to do a number of things: it allowed this statistically average player to take out several players that significantly statistically outperform them, carry a game with the majority of the teams damage and kills, and take a top 5 slot in damage dealt in that particular tank. a top 5 slot. held by a statistically average Joe player. I'd hardly call that a bad use of a top tier tank. just my two cents tho
Since when do yellows take tryhard set ups LUL
Adam Townsend When say yellow do you mean the xvm colour?
yes indeed. Ngl i never expected that people with average stats would play so tryhardy
You dont have to be "Tryhardy" to get to 2450 wn8
lol. When i say tryhard i mean full gold from the start and food. With a cautious dmg farming playstyle. Like how you would play to 3 mark it. And by tryhard i mean going for 4k+ wn8
PS why so TOXIC
Ja M you don't have to be a try hard to be unicum when you can play the game properly..
For all those saying these positions should be removed... WG purposely let these positions be when they updated the game physics and let you climb hills that were previously impossible to climb due to "invisible" walls... Why should these positions be removed? I mean, the tanks with high p/w ratio can use these positions to their advantage and make up for their low armor for example... I bet some of you would like light tanks to fight you head on in your heavy tanks, with little to no chance of flanking you (because of World of Corridors...) I really hope these positions will be left untouched, even though I only used 2 of them until now. Btw, they are not OP nor game breaking, simply because once spotted, everyone and their mother can shoot at you.
All though it gives advantages it is also risky and time consuming players do this with the risk of being taking from the game and it is a smart way of using game micanics war gaming don't patch it !
gold spammer who exploits unbalanced map design... gg
this boosting totally kills the game... wonder when will WG realize and start to do something about this.. when you get tanks in position like this... you can't cap... you cant kill him effectively... yay, 15mins wasted draw....
Wotko s Vokurkou gold spammer? In the current game, that wasn't that much...
Wotko s Vokurkou guess what???? Anyone can buy gold ammo for credits so cut the attitude and enjoy the clever use of mechanics.
I do all the time , infact I can afford to do so in every game, it's there so I use it
WG is actually starting to ban people for doing this, theres already several maps if your caught on replay accessing these areas your banned
Well, about the gold spam, yes I'm against that. But having map knowledge and using a position to have an advantage against the enemy team? That's good, it shows that he's a good player.
I'm not the best player, but I think the position is fine. Imo the opposing team knew where he was, and could have easily countered him if they were patient. The position took two key tanks out of the majority of the game. The E-75 was the only one with the right idea. He just needed someone to spot for him. Great vid and commentary QB!
dude you always forget to go on "detailed report" on the end. thats very important to see how much credits he has done and spend for ammunition. do this next time. I saw that you forget this in many vids. multiple times
Well. I have to say that if you are not very good in this game or u dont have the required experience, then these positions wont help u alot. Only if u know what u r doing. Then these positions become far too over powered. Of course u cannot blame the players for takeing this smart position in game. Like why wouldnt u go up there if u can. And u know that u will get an advantage over other players. Still i cant decide if i would want it to get patched out or not.
I think QB was having a jingles moment by mimicing us critics lol well actually quicky, your videos are awesome
How did you get there?
Replies *baaa*
back in the day in most every games exploits was considered the same as hacking and a bannable offense.
that being said. on to the reasons why,
1: it gives players unfair advantages over everyone, and total advantage over some, (gun elevation that some tanks cant shoot up that high) the opposing side does not have this type of advantage so it makes it totally unfair if you are on the north team,,, ect....
2: this is supposed to be somewhat of a realistic game and climbing mountains(yes i said MOUNTAINS) is far from anything close to realistic and even far from futuristic.
maybe if wargaming would use a little of the profits into fixing problems such as this the game would be a little more fun for all.
this is super easy to fix and thereafter if anyone caught exploiting should get a nice ban, 1 or 3 days might be a good start.
I will bet you that wargaming has already has numerous complaints and ingame reports on people using this exploit. so maybe we need to ask wargaming their stance on this subject and what if any actions will be taken in the future to fix this or encourage the use of this exploit. either way wargaming should make a statement about this very subject.
wow, i am really amazed how you cannot see past your nose on this one,,,
90%+ dont know how or it will take to long for them to get up the hill while putting themselves at a disadvantage to get to that player on top of the hill. and taking snap shots at the cap while up there resetting tanks that cant shoot back, this all will force unneeded drug out games and more draws.
try to play the game out in your head before thinking something is good.
I mean, really?? you still believe what you wrote now that i have explained it to you? if so, then i can say 100% you did not think the battles through or see how much of an advantage these spots give.
at the least just think about it.
wow, you are so out of touch it makes no sense.
if you cant get it from what i said then you have no eyesight whatsoever.
like I said, you cannot see past your nose. well good gaming, and as it is easy for me to get to these spots still dont make it right, and this is not competitive in the least when a tank can draw a game so easy. that is just total stupidity to make a game with UNFAIR(yes I said UNFAIR) advantages over others.
and so funny how you are arguing to keep something that is so unfair to many,, makes me guess that you use the mountains, or you get paid by WGing. either way it makes you out to be not so bright.
good gaming to you, and BTW, they will take this out of the game, it is you that is living in a fantasy world thinking tanks can climb mountains. EVEN IN WW2, lmao, wow, talk about fantasy.
I never said tanks could climb mountains. I said the mat even tanks during ww2 could easily climb slopes of 60 degrees. once again you paraphrase not only out of context but also changing the entire wording and basically making it up.
further to that poin
see this is why you are out of touch,,,, i stated about tanks climbing and that is talking about the hills(mountains) in the game, THAT WAS THE SUBJECT MATTER... go get back on board and stop with walls of text trying to justify the crap you pull in games.
so you infact did imply that tanks could climb mountains , that is #1,
#2 my friends and myself go rock climbing and this is where it is funny,,, NO JEEPS CANNOT climb up most mountains, wow, you are really dense. and we have awesome rock climbers,,, again, you are trying to make sense out of what you are saying that really makes no sense.
wake up bother... you are totally in a fantasy world. try watching the video again and seeing what the question is about the game... GET BACK IN TOUCH!
i am done with you, you have no IQ and if you did you sure don't show it with your ramblings about stuff you really have no clue about.
ok, i have to answer to this,, you 60degree crap is not the issue and was never an issue, but let me clearify something about that 60degree you keep shouting about,, little hills on iwo jima could not be topped by tanks, rocky slopes cannot be topped by tanks, their are no roads up the mountains in the game, so i dont know what the hell you keep rambling about you are totally wrong,, again, i just proved it,,,
and to go on about how wrong you are--- your definition of a mountain is totally 100% wrong
has nothing to do with sea lvl... Do you make this up as you go along and forget about fact checking? wow
i didn't have to look up the definition of a mountain but i did anyway just to fact check myself..
you talk about physics, i shown you some examples of how physics actually work, i am sure you will make something up again to debunk what i said,,, i can fact check everything i say and what you say, you should try to do the same instead of making up your own definitions.
Now I am 100% positive that you are one of the ones that uses these exploits for how much you are guarding them. so try blowing smoke up someones ass that don't know bullshit when they see it. maybe a 2nd grader is more your speed,,
you have not fooled anyone with your crap. and like quickybaby and I and many others say, this needs to be fixed (the sooner the better)
stupid little man, later ,, have fun with your own walk on life. keep making it up as you go along...
Well, I kind of like these boosted positions. On the one hand, they're realistic: Powerful locations CAN WIN a battle - ask the Spartans about it. On the other hand, they open new ways to play the game: One doesn't have to go through three well-known “alleys“ but can work his/her way up a mountain. It takes time and is risky so one still has to weigh the benefits. It feels like a... fair deal to me. And, like every change to the maps, the community just needs time to adept. The advantage of such a location will drop down when (finally) everyone knows about it.
Hey QB,
You can argue that these positions take a long time to get into and therefore they are legit, but really I would really hope to see WG do something about this cause these positions are not welcome for the average players and by no means new players.
Which again will get new players to be seal clubbed into oblivion and that is something I feel needs to be changed. More experienced players will do better cause we know something about WoT and have learned from u QB. These locations are mostly used by stat padders and experienced players who want's to fight as unfairly as they can. Most of us players wants to win, that's not a secret. Everthing is fair in War and Love, right? But really is it? What does your own moral say? And is this a real war or just a Game? Well for me it is a game and I love to have fun in my games. These positions in game ruins the fun for me atleast. In clan wars I have seen alot of boosting here and there just to get a tank up somewhere that isn't possible to get to solo. But in randoms we shouldn't have to watch for birds crapping on our tanks.. But this is only my opinion. Hopefully there are more of you that share my opinion so QB have even more on the List he can take to WG and try to make em fix back our fun.
Keep working QB, we all have to work hard :)
I don't think this is a point that QB is making. I don't think he defends those glitched positions.
They are welcome to everyone who wants to learn how to climb there.
at least with these positions lightly armored tank have something over the slowass heavy tanks. If we cannot flank in the world of corridors, we can hit 'em from above ;)
These spots are complete bullshit. I've had plenty of draws where light tanks hide in the hills drawing what otherwise would be a victory. Either every tank can go there, or none at all.
lack of decent climbing skill
btw awesome game
Best tactic..
1. get 3 in cap rest guns looking up. they went in 1s and 2s.
2.. stay away from cap settle for draw simply hide 2 locations in groups of 2/3 and force them to exit hill or take draw.
WG, Please don't repair or change this map. Just remove it.
Why? Because of the boost? So should they remove all others also? Watched WG League ever?
just doesnt change anything
G Yogaraja well in 1.0 its coming true
I enjoyed the video so I clicked the like button. Just don't read the rest of the comments quicky baby they are all toxic
I don't like how you can defend the cap from a position like this, but I do like it when a map is deliberately designed around the idea of being able to use a mountain, like on the "Cliff" map.
I think is a clever use of game mechanics, some novelty
This game is already boring because this lazy WG who won't to create new maps or to reintroduce the old ones
Like these boosts... more videos about this !!! Some fresh content for this channel
clever use of game mechanics? since when a broken map is game mechanic?
MrCipasa What? It IS clever use of game mrchanics and climbing altoghter takes alot of skill
Fochfall I heard that wargaming will sell premium map.
lamer spotted....."clever use" my ass
Fochfall im agree with you
its clever use of mechanics sure, would a tank get there in real life? WG needs to fix this crap
Jirka Kolář
Depending on the tank, it might be possible for a tank to get up there, although climbing is abusing the driving system.
WOT never aspired to simulate real life, it is a video game. Do you think a real armored combat looks remotely like little bumper cars running around each other in a half square mile fenced area?
a tank would be able to get up there if it wasnt solid rock some snow and ice if it was just dirt and or grass ez pz
Quicky baby: How did he get here
Me:Do YoU hAve 90 minutes
# jacksepticeye
He copied sor of Jingles [actualy qiuckybaby....]
i love being able to hill climb and anyone can do it if ur lucky enough so its fine
Arlo BS. 1) not every Tank can do it 2) only one side has this OP hill
i think the boost spots are really clever, and it can be very difficult to get it, but when you do it is beautiful
rarely anyone uses these spots so it shouldnt be fixed
And if someone uses it, he gains an unfair advantage. They should definitely fix that.
Zbigniew Malec boohoo unfair plane boohooo
Do you have anything other to say than "boohoo"?
Zbigniew Malec boohoo
Ok, have a nice day!
Use the maps to their fullest. WG has broken the game with a retarded attempt to make both sides exactly the same (at least statisticly). That effort is irelevant. It's not possible unless you make the map an exact mirror on both sides, making the map physically the same for both teams. Just put all the Retired Maps back in the game. The more games you play the more times you play both sides, getting a statistically neutral side choice. Some Maps, Lights have the advantage. Some Maps, Heavies have the advantage. And some maps, TDs have the advantage. Mediums are too OP on the current crop of nonsense.
Since they changed the mechanics to where you can get up in places like this, jump off a bridge, and roll the tank. I think the ones that use this to there advantage do change the way the battle plays but it doesn't mean that it's unfair. I love getting into these spots. If you think about it if 2-3 tanks out of every battle use these spots and everyone becomes more aware players can get better over time
Sickening top tier gold spamming
I'm interested to understand what do you think QB? Because this position is completely game braking. Tell us QB do you think that this win was pissible if this "skilled" player was not up there on "unplayeble" area of the map?
If you have a deeper look in the replay you will notice that his team is malting cause I'll say it like Foch "he was try to climb like complere jurk for half of the battle". WG should remove this positions, they don't add anything to the gameplay and they are not showing that players have "skill" to go there. Even they show exactly the oposite, a little boy has a dream to climb a 50b there so he gets premium consumable in order to do it.
Then remove all the corridors from the maps and let the heavies be flankable :/ Yes, he tried to climb there, but during it's climbing attempts, he did waaayyyyy more damage than some dumbass who went straight for his death in the first 2 minutes of the game. People die in WoT with no reason whatsoever. At least this guy managed to carry this game, before, during, and after his climb to that "unplayable" area (which, btw, is totally playable and intended)
These games happen all the time where good players mess up and allow results like this. I honestly think positions like these are good for the game. It makes it more dynamic, although having a mountain range stretch the whole side of the map to allow the other team to take out the defenders up there would make it more balanced.
It's just smart to get up there
Froggy 111 what's name of this map?
Moja Croatia idk
Froggy 111 secred valley
BUFF ARTY!!!
REMOVE ARTY!!!
Arty rapes people just fine nowadays. Got so many games with 4 or 6 artys in game these days. I am happy they are back and those garbage hater humans can continue to cry.
@@dom3827 4 or 6? most ive seen allowed in games is 3... unless you are talking about the entire match and not just single side, if so, then carry on good sir
@@Kanosirus of course i mean the entire match
i loved the move that he drove up the hill... what i didnt like was the moment at the beginning when he instandly dabbed that 2 key and unnecessaryly shot 23 rounds of premium Apcr.
I think WG should Keep these place, there wouldnt be Any fun without them, Also for rewarding skilled climbers! :) anyone Who thinks same as me? :D
Yes, agree. The game needs dynamics like these to keep it interesting.
Quixotic, well said :)
I think it's okey to use such positions, the only problem is that I can't get up there.
As a player you have to make the match as unfair as possible and gain as much advantges as possible. It's war, in real live they dont cry around when a tank get's into a hidden position. Stop bitching and crying aroud kids, learn how to play.
Comparing a video game to real life war... LOL
Of all the comments that are defending these positions, this one takes the cake!
I think it's an interesting use of game mechanics and adds an extra dimension to any game
My first dislike to your video QB. Not cause it's bad but because it encourages something i consider exploit as many others do. Game is getting worse because of that imho.
if you actually play the game you would have seen this used you can get up there even with slowest of tanks
and if you actually play the game you can see that those spots are outside regular part of the map..
so what it takes skill to get to most of them this is just easy one
It's in side the border, so it's not outside of the regular part of the map......
At least now I fucking know what to keep in mind and how to try and deal with a situation like that.
Mmh, all the salt from the crybabies in the comment is making me happy.
You sound like a stand up guy! Enjoying the happiness that comes from other peoples frustrations. AND you needed to come here and tell everyone. Poison.
+Razor Steelix Enjoying someone else's frustration or pain is not a thing to brag about.
It is, if the people complaining are mad for a mechanic they cannot use in their tanks, and would like to be restricted for everyone.
I asked from support about unrelated but similar exploitation of greyed out areas. Answer was, that they will investigate to these exploits and start to take action against such behaviour in the future.
In my own opinion when the area is greyed out as impassable you shouldn't have those exploiting accesses to those locations. Entering such a locations should start a self-destruction sequence to the tank and an invisible barrier should be implemented to the borders of such areas, preventing both spotting and shooting from there. Like a mechanic when you cant shoot when your tank is under water and drowning.
I will say that WG has actually taken out some of the worst of the "mountain goating" positions in the game. If anybody remembers running underwater to the south island on the Arctic map, you'll know what I'm talking about. Especially in something like an RU-251. I did it once to see how overpowered it was.... and oh my god it was gamebreaking. I ended up getting 7K spotting/track damage and 4K damage. I actually sent a message to WG support and told them they needed to change this fast because it offered such an advantage to the south spawn. For once, it only took them about 3 weeks to do something about it. They ended up making the water actually give your tank resistance so not even the fastest tank could reach the position.
As it currently is, these areas that are difficult to access ARE game breaking. They aren't typically evenly spaced between both sides of the map and the advantage of sniping from high-ground is enormous.
That being said, it is really cool to see. Definitely not to lose against, but it offers so much utility to those who manage to get up there and use.
Some maps really do have a lot of the map borders just taken up by mountain sides or nothing. So it might be cool to see some of those obstacles accessible by lighter vehicles, I'm just torn on whether it'd make the game better or worse
Juhani and his teammate are like:
*AHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE*
I actually like it that such stuff is possible, it makes it a much more interesting game and not just so boring and linear.
Maybe this part here is a bit too op, but it should still be possible to use the maps creatively.
I think it's nice you can do this, there should be more maps and places like this, I think it is fun and it opens an intire new dimension of the game
dynamic game play boys. btw im sure his team was thankful for that. you know, so much fun.
i really miss this map it was really fun and if they re-add the map you wont be able to be a mountain goat
I'm not really sure how I feel about mountain goating, yes it does give you a significant advantage over your enemies but it's so hard to do that most players can't do it so if you manage to successfully get into a position like that then you've kind of earned that advantage. And it's also fun to do! Like Quickybaby mentioned, once you're up there you have little to no arty cover. I don't think it should be removed, but I do think it should be made slightly easier to counter it.
I think the "locations" that players are able to sneak up into are changing how the maps were intended to be played thus providing one team a true advantage and rendering the map broken.
That is what is definitely wrong. No maps except the special events map should not be created with intentions to some kind of gameplay, maps should be balanced with room for creativity from players and thats what this player does, he used all of map possibilities and limits. This is why different types of tanks to use their strength and eliminate weaknesses or will you complain that french LT are so fast that you could not kill them ? Or will you complain about Italian autoloaders because how many shells they have ? Think about it. (sorry for english, I am not native.)
Anyone here in 2024 wishing invisible walls were never created?
Wow. Seeing this three years after the fact, I know these things: No more Sacred Ground Map, Plenty of Arties in the game now, and Three: That spot was way way WAY OP.
If you dont like people getting up to places then get a tank that can and learn how to get up there. These mountain spots give some nice variety to the sometimes-monotonous battle routine. The problem i have is the many maps that have spots like this on only one side of the map. I say go make cool spots like this that are kinda op but hard to get to on more maps, just make it
at least a little symmetrical
it's cool how Juhani has view on the roof top of the Maus and Vk and still trys to shot the hull up plate and turret instead
Welcome back to "How did she get there?"
I don't have a major issue with what he did. He got lucky that the enemy team kept lemming in 1-2 at a time. Only the E75 tried to do it right by sitting back to shoot when he would crest, and almost got him. But by then the lights were dead and got out-spotted. They could have been easily shut down the AMX if the E75 had at least one more to help snipe him off the ridge when he crested to reset the cap.
I think boosts like these should exist, as they give lightly armored, but agile tanks that advantage they traded in all that armor for. However, I also believe, that there needs to be a valid way to counter this sort of positioning. Artillery might work to some degree, but any tank needs to be able to do so, although with some up front investment. Perhaps another slope that's slow to go up, but an E100 can do it and even though it'll cost a lot of time, it'll do to counter this sort of behavior.
I haven't ever been able to take advantage of these perches - mainly because I suck - but if the perches are accessible using unmodified vehicles, then they are part of the game. It's up to Wargaming to decide whether to eliminate them or add one(s) on the opposing team's side to balance things out.
The opposing team had lots of opportunity to shoot the AMX 50B as it made its ascent. It's not an exploit and it's not a cheat to think laterally and access difficult to reach places. If the opposing team had a couple of SPGs they would have made light work of the mountaineering tanks, too.
I'm not against or for it but here on the Asian server its very common to get light (nimble) tanks up in the hills spotting and sniping including the few nimble spgs, we have just become used to it.
I'm sure a tank is designed to be able to utilize (use) the terrain as an advantage on a battle field, an example would be the type 62 / wz131/2 in similar scenario's as this map, such as in the Sino-Vietnamese War were it was reaching positions were heavier tanks could never reach.