Deer bedding in and around Pines... Bigwoods #3

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  • @caseymallach3596
    @caseymallach3596 3 роки тому +42

    Can’t believe I can watch this for free! Thanks Dan

  • @568843daw
    @568843daw Рік тому +8

    This is a fabulous video. Here’s another idea: Experienced bucks will also bed down about ten feet below a ridge line. The turbulent air moves up from the valley warning them of approaching danger. They lye in tall grass and nearly under a bush which helps to conceal their rack. Ear flicking generally gives them away. Escaping is easily done by turning around and retreating behind the ridge. The brush continues to provide cover for this retreat. Look for the flicking ears. Second thought: Never shoot the south end of a north facing deer meaning don’t shoot them through the buttocks. If that is your only shot, let them go. You’ll see another deer. The forest is full of them. Good luck.

  • @knuckledragger2412
    @knuckledragger2412 Рік тому +8

    I don't understand how the hunting beast has eluded me all this time.
    Just found a video about 10 days ago, outstanding!

  • @cirocundin
    @cirocundin Рік тому +5

    Have been frustrated with locating deer and generally figuring out the big woods problem... this video does a good turn and jump started the thinking into more focus. A big help and strong reference here.

  • @duenorthadventures
    @duenorthadventures 3 роки тому +32

    Trying to figure out if I like Dan's hilarious t-shirts or his deer hunting lessons better?? 🤣🤣
    🍻🦌

    • @wiscokid9890
      @wiscokid9890 3 роки тому +1

      Wonder where he gets those

    • @decaturridgebees8761
      @decaturridgebees8761 2 роки тому +1

      Just enjoy the package. He’s an awesome dude. My dream hunt would be with him or Zach from THP.

  • @Schubox62
    @Schubox62 3 роки тому +7

    The recurring theme is the edge. Even a glass eye in a hogs a$$ can see that. Thanks Dan. -guy who usually goes to the middle

  • @jefflemieux8849
    @jefflemieux8849 Рік тому +2

    Thank you, for all you do Sir.
    Semper Fidelis.

  • @Bubakarrr
    @Bubakarrr 3 роки тому +6

    Really enjoying this series. Awesome stuff!

  • @tomgray256
    @tomgray256 5 місяців тому +1

    Love these videos…. So glad you came up in my feed…. Been deer hunting for 3 yrs…. Shot my first small buck last year… totally addicted now…. I’m like sponge to these vids… keep them coming🔥🔥🔥

  • @paulhouston4162
    @paulhouston4162 Рік тому +3

    Dan I really wish I could hire you to come to Alabama or just come to Bama to do a seminar. Tough figuring out bedding here with all of our pine plantations. Love and addicted to your content.

  • @silverback802
    @silverback802 3 роки тому +2

    Dan, I learn so much from you. Thank you.

  • @andrewelliott6577
    @andrewelliott6577 3 роки тому +2

    Just scouted a new farm this morning that had a lot of cedars with little openings like you mentioned with Beds all around. This reassures me I should focus on that area! Thanks as always, never can get enough of this stuff.

  • @DETERWEBER
    @DETERWEBER Рік тому +2

    Here in Georgie I see a lot of buck bedding in ditches in young growth pine tree patches. I.E olderclear cuts. Especially ditches with greenbriar.

  • @forrestphoenix318
    @forrestphoenix318 3 роки тому +4

    Good point on the young pines vs mature pines. Understory growth is key

  • @frisco94
    @frisco94 2 місяці тому +1

    This is huge....I have already bumped 3 deer (at least one was a buck - I never saw the other two) out of thickets of young Pines or Hemlocks....All 3 times I was downwind and got within 20 yards. In my part of New Hampshire, deer seem to love bedding in them and there are plenty of places where young thickets have taken hold. Now all I need to do is get in a tree as close as possible undetected......It's all about bedding, bedding, bedding. It's kinda like the real estate market.....location, location, location.

  • @glennpenton4202
    @glennpenton4202 3 роки тому +2

    In the South east lol all we have is vast expanses of pine forest. However they do have hardwood bottoms and logging to create plenty of transition and diversity. 1-5 yo planted pines = bedding and food, 6-10 yo pines are normally crowned out and too open below. Then they will start the thinning rotations and it can get real fun from then until they clear cut and start the cycle over again. Thanks Dan

    • @brianheintz9912
      @brianheintz9912 10 місяців тому

      I'm sw Louisiana same here all the way around, killed many a deer on old logging roads and skid trails

  • @seankabes9129
    @seankabes9129 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for all the info you put out to help us all be better.

  • @cvongall66
    @cvongall66 3 роки тому +2

    Love the shirt. It is interesting about the tamarack humps. Same applies to willow humps that are surrounded by water.

  • @theMobileHuntersEXPO
    @theMobileHuntersEXPO 3 роки тому +2

    You put out such great information man. Thank you. Looking forward to some big woods adventures this fall.

  • @user-mm3ft8id4w
    @user-mm3ft8id4w 7 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for your content, Dan. I have some patches of young pines on some town conservation land, which happens to be just off a local public hunting piece. I'm monitoring the area with cameras this winter to see if it's worth pursuing permission on the conservation land for next year.

  • @underdogoutdoors
    @underdogoutdoors 3 роки тому +1

    I usually avoid pine areas. Glad I watched this.

  • @archeryonly5629
    @archeryonly5629 3 роки тому +3

    Always feelin Beasty ! Keep up the great work!!!!

  • @markadams5285
    @markadams5285 3 роки тому +1

    Watched, Enjoyed, like it! Keep'em coming, learning!

  • @thequalityglassmith5428
    @thequalityglassmith5428 3 роки тому +1

    Loving this series! Thank you.

  • @Jack-cr7qn
    @Jack-cr7qn 3 роки тому +1

    Love the 👔 shirt. Really good information. I shot my first buck last year. I learned a few things from you. You teach well.

  • @matthewcorcoran7798
    @matthewcorcoran7798 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for all these videos

  • @EROCK1966
    @EROCK1966 3 роки тому +3

    Dan love the shirt .Last year i found a bed looked just like that hump with tree middle of nasty swamp kicked a monster off it couldnt get good count but 8 atleast old bed many deer been there couldnt get there this year but next year need canoe or kayak to get there in season guess what i bought last month the monsters mine all mine

  • @justincopenhaver2532
    @justincopenhaver2532 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks Dan! Just started watching all your stuff this off season. I mostly hunt blacktail deer in Western Washington. Everything seems to apply the same and I've learned a ton so far from all your podcasts and videos! Been out looking for bedding areas all of season. Can't wait to put this approach to use this fall!

  • @SamkoTradBow
    @SamkoTradBow 3 роки тому +2

    Always love your content! But the tee shirts are my favorite! Keep it up and glad to see you putting out so much more content recently!

  • @dylantackes5337
    @dylantackes5337 Рік тому

    dan has the best t-shirt collection i have ever seen... oh ya and public land buck collection too!🤣🤣

  • @jamesbitar3037
    @jamesbitar3037 3 роки тому +1

    This guy is awesome,the real deal.Great advice,ty!

  • @ronmacdougall9612
    @ronmacdougall9612 3 роки тому +2

    Good vid Dan.I have a lot of hemlock here in my area and very thick in spots.

  • @user-kh8bp6ue8y
    @user-kh8bp6ue8y 3 роки тому +2

    All makes sense, coming from south jersey. All pines and swamps, briars and some oaks.. trying to apply your strategies here.. out terrain is very monotonous

  • @russbatzer6970
    @russbatzer6970 3 роки тому +1

    Another great video, and an even better shirt Dan!! 👍

  • @clintfraley1968
    @clintfraley1968 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent video. Thx Dan

  • @roberthikade9759
    @roberthikade9759 3 роки тому +1

    Loved it Dan, I hunt a lot of the tamarack pines in my neck of Michigan and your right they hold deer most of the times. Cant wait for your next video.

  • @pmorse9559
    @pmorse9559 3 роки тому +1

    Great video Dan
    Steve Morse

  • @bhoran1152
    @bhoran1152 2 роки тому +1

    Grew up hunting the swamps in north Michigan.. now hunting the hills of north Alabama.. thick areas tend to be the creek bottoms.. I’m still figuring it out.

  • @Virginiashadow
    @Virginiashadow 3 роки тому +1

    The smaller and more remote the pine forest the better. Just my opinion. Thanks for the video Dan

  • @chadbinette3201
    @chadbinette3201 2 роки тому

    I don't know what I get more excited for, the actual video or what T-shirt the beast is wearing hahah. Need to start adding links to get your t-shirts.

  • @howardarterbury5642
    @howardarterbury5642 Рік тому +1

    Great shirt

  • @kylen1922
    @kylen1922 3 роки тому +2

    Secluded thickets In the middle of ag fields are usually over looked. Some of the biggest bucks hide in the oddest places. Hunted a deer fpr three years finally figured out he was living I'n a 1/2 thicket in the middle of a field.

  • @johnjhenriksen7548
    @johnjhenriksen7548 2 роки тому +1

    Love the shirt dan! 💯😂

  • @dennisst.pierre210
    @dennisst.pierre210 3 роки тому +1

    Glad I watched this 2 spots that were old growth huge hemlock is now new pine after hems died and fell over right in swamps going look at it this week haven’t been in there in3yrs

  • @ryanb5768
    @ryanb5768 3 роки тому +1

    Great video
    Thanks for the pointers

  • @kellypeterson5771
    @kellypeterson5771 3 роки тому +4

    Had a spot years ago of small hardwood Islands out in a 3+ square mile tamarack swamp that had a lot of deer sign. Hunted it many times but never saw a buck there. But bow killed my biggest WI buck on the edge where he was checking his scrapes where the point of this swamp stuck into the surrounding hardwood timber. This was two miles from the nearest road, public at that time and I didn't know 10% of what I know now and I'm learning with everyone of your videos. Thank you very much. Have all your other DVD's so please tell me when this one is available?

  • @backinthewoods2022
    @backinthewoods2022 2 роки тому +1

    Dan I hunt where there are a lot of tamarack and black spruce swamps near Ladysmith. Underneath the ground has some water but is covered with some type of low bush and thick moss. have you had experience in this type of swamp? I see some trails but no beds the ground kind of snaps back because its soft and springy. It also doesn't hold tracks at all. Just wondering if you have ever seen buck bedding in this type of cover. I'm thinking they travel through it but don't hang out.

  • @bentpolski
    @bentpolski Рік тому

    Who is that Stranger? I didn't recognize Dan without His Facial Hair! GREAT SHIRTS My Brother! Love when You Guys Hunt with The Hunting Public!

  • @altorry1083
    @altorry1083 3 роки тому +1

    Found a spot this spring exactly like that surrounded by swamp. Lot of heavy used trails and alot of nice buck sign.

  • @shawnlewis6544
    @shawnlewis6544 3 роки тому +1

    Dan thanks for the video.

  • @greatlakesgrows
    @greatlakesgrows 3 роки тому +1

    Great content as always 👊🏻✌🏻

  • @Footballsketcher15
    @Footballsketcher15 2 роки тому +1

    Love your hunting show plus your t shirts too😃

  • @raymonddancer9181
    @raymonddancer9181 3 роки тому +1

    Another awesome informative video. I have an area just like where you shot that deer...! Haven't hunted it in a couple years I'm definitely going in there this season.. nasty as it is it will produce.! Love the shirt as well.!👍

  • @mztd912
    @mztd912 3 роки тому +1

    My favorite buck hunting spots are on the edge of pines. Seems many bucks prefer to travel that edge and I always find rub lines along the edge of pines. Shot many bucks that way.

  • @adamdrouin2295
    @adamdrouin2295 3 роки тому +5

    His shirts get me every time 😂😂😂

  • @stevenschmidt5712
    @stevenschmidt5712 2 роки тому +1

    What are your experiences with pines in places like Iowa, Missouri and Kansas? What (if any) would the differences be? Thanks Dan...your the man!

  • @Dave-sg7ez
    @Dave-sg7ez 2 роки тому +1

    Love the shirt ,as always lol & great vid Dan

  • @deerhunter7482
    @deerhunter7482 3 роки тому +1

    I took my best Carbelas camo out in the pasture at 11:00pm and laid down on the ground while a friend with a night vision scope hand held and my suit glows like a dryer sheet .

  • @BillWegner
    @BillWegner Рік тому +1

    When hunting edges of Tamarack swamps in northern MN, how do you set up in relation to the wind, and more specifically, where do you allow your scent to blow? I'll guess a setup downwind/crosswind might be the best a hunter can do, but my scent will be blowing uncontrolled into the woods behind me further along the edge of the swamp. Not an ideal setup if I'm not certain exactly where the buck is bedding. Awesome videos, thank you!

  • @acadian101
    @acadian101 2 роки тому +2

    pine trees aren;t the best cover because pine trees grow really tall and when they get over 15 to 20 inches in diameter ,, the first limbs are like 10 feet off the ground ,,,, what you want is spurce ,firs and cedar where the cover from those evergreens are low to the ground

  • @jamesschroeder969
    @jamesschroeder969 Рік тому +1

    Don't forget White cedar swamps.

  • @JRMny-nl4ut
    @JRMny-nl4ut 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks Dan!

  • @Ebjs
    @Ebjs Рік тому +1

    Damn Dan i have so many questions, do you do any workshops here in Michigan, would love to see any Michigan content, plus i need as many bear videos as i can get as this year ill draw a tag for the 2nd time and have never seen a bear with my eyes, only on cam

  • @stephencourtright8099
    @stephencourtright8099 8 місяців тому +1

    Got you another 1

  • @speedfire65
    @speedfire65 2 роки тому +1

    Great video, Question for you…when hunting oak woods with pine trees scattered through out. Are you focused on the main transition line where dense pines meet the hardwoods, or the pockets of pine trees that are in the middle of the hardwoods?

  • @thomashood3748
    @thomashood3748 3 роки тому +2

    Excellence!

  • @EricAnderson-gz1bl
    @EricAnderson-gz1bl 4 місяці тому +1

    Hey Dan totally agree with all the edge stuff but I found out big jackpine stand up here the UP and it had a lot of deer sign and trails through the middle of it. Was curious if you think a mature buck would travel that?

    • @thehuntingbeast
      @thehuntingbeast  4 місяці тому

      Sign dont lie... The real question would be if the sign was made in dayligt or at night

    • @EricAnderson-gz1bl
      @EricAnderson-gz1bl 4 місяці тому

      @@thehuntingbeastmakes sense, thanks for the reply!

  • @SilentViewer420
    @SilentViewer420 Рік тому

    What would you say if there is about an acre or two of overgrown 23year old pines due to it being a old Christian’s tree farm. Close together great cover year round. Good sign of buck and deer movement. One patch is close to farm land (corn this year) one is a little farther. Thanks Dan !

  • @dadlife333
    @dadlife333 Рік тому

    True pioneer.

  • @PBAdventures146
    @PBAdventures146 3 роки тому +1

    Very informative video!! Glad there are still deer hunting videos being put out while everybody else is pretty much turkey hunting! 🙂 I was wondering if you ever look at a piece of property or spot on a piece of property and think it's actually too thick that bucks won't use it? Obviously as you said so well bucks like thicker cover for bedding, but is there a time when you look at something and say that's just too thick and bucks won't be bedded in there? Thanks!!

    • @thehuntingbeast
      @thehuntingbeast  3 роки тому +1

      Yes.... Some of that extremely thick stuff is bedded on the down wind edges though.

    • @PBAdventures146
      @PBAdventures146 3 роки тому

      @@thehuntingbeast Thank you!!

  • @jaymcwethy9026
    @jaymcwethy9026 3 роки тому +2

    it was kind of interesting how after the shot the lead deer stuck around for a second, but as soon as the one you shot dropped, the lead deer took off. almost like she was waiting on the second deer, and when she hit the ground, she knew it was time to leave

    • @thehuntingbeast
      @thehuntingbeast  3 роки тому +1

      I cut the tape, but seconds later another deer came down the trail and walked up to the dead one and when it got within a couple feet it suddenly freaked out and tore out of there...

    • @MexicanMovie
      @MexicanMovie 3 роки тому

      here is a link to the that entire video that Dan posted up previously title "Bump n Dump Doe"
      ua-cam.com/video/dDTA1WY47hU/v-deo.html

  • @travisbuildsthis8673
    @travisbuildsthis8673 3 роки тому +1

    I hunt in and around a big white pine grove with 12’ -15’ pines. There are 2 areas that show promise. One is a big bowl with a rub in the middle of it. Another is an opening like you mention with lots of off season activity. But access is tough without being busted or noticed. Any ideas to accessing these areas without being spotted?

  • @newhampshireoutdoornetwork9505
    @newhampshireoutdoornetwork9505 3 роки тому +2

    Where I live in New hampshire its really hilly old growth farm land that buts up to big woods. I see most of the good buck sign on the benches that are basically half way up the hills in the hemlock thickets the bottom 1/3rd its hard woods and the top 2/3rds is a mix of hemlock and hardwood . On this particular property im have a hard time finding bedding any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you

    • @pmorse9559
      @pmorse9559 3 роки тому

      What part of NH you in ?

    • @pmorse9559
      @pmorse9559 3 роки тому +1

      I hunt New Hampshire and I found a bunch of beds the other day

    • @thehuntingbeast
      @thehuntingbeast  3 роки тому +1

      Either top 1/3 ob the leeward side hills, or on the down wind edge of think...

    • @newhampshireoutdoornetwork9505
      @newhampshireoutdoornetwork9505 3 роки тому

      @@pmorse9559 im in the lakes region around tilton . I hunt all over the state what part of nh you hunting ?

    • @newhampshireoutdoornetwork9505
      @newhampshireoutdoornetwork9505 3 роки тому +1

      @@thehuntingbeast thank you ive been try to teach myself to find beds im fairly new to deer hunting and in the beginning I got alot of bad info from people but have been getting a lot better over the last few years. Thank you for the info .

  • @jesus_is_king8485
    @jesus_is_king8485 2 роки тому +1

    Hey question @thehuntingbeast How to tell between does bedding and buck bedding on those humps in tamarack swamp?

    • @thehuntingbeast
      @thehuntingbeast  2 роки тому

      Mostly by sign... Rubs will be near doe and buck bedding, but in bedding used by bucks the rubs will be at or near the beds. Rubs by doe bedding will be more along the trails surrounding the beds. Its important to note that does (mostly 1 to 3, or about) will use buck bedding too when bucks are not in there... Doe groups generally bed the fringes up in the dry stuff where buck beds are more deliberate and with purpose and thought.

    • @jesus_is_king8485
      @jesus_is_king8485 2 роки тому

      @@thehuntingbeast finally ok I understand clearly now. Thank you so much! God bless you!

  • @dualthreatoutdoors
    @dualthreatoutdoors 3 роки тому +1

    Dan will you be doing a video like this focusing on hill country pines?

  • @chrislovely9136
    @chrislovely9136 3 роки тому +1

    Love the shirt

  • @gregfredrick283
    @gregfredrick283 2 роки тому +1

    Love your shirt!!!! MAGA. Oh ya I should finish watching the video 👍

  • @Ebjs
    @Ebjs Рік тому +1

    What about black spruce swamps

  • @jasonchivis9911
    @jasonchivis9911 3 роки тому +1

    Speaking of bucks bedding on the edge, I have access to hunt a somewhat large swamp surrounding a lake that is perfect bedding cover with grasses and dry ground near bases of trees. Should I hunt the edge of the swamp edge in evening or penetrate into the swamp 50-100 yards to start?

    • @thehuntingbeast
      @thehuntingbeast  3 роки тому

      I would try to guess or pre-scout where they are bedding and hunt as close as possible without getting busted. A lot of my biggest bucks were shot at closing time 75 yards from there bed...

  • @EA.71
    @EA.71 3 роки тому +1

    Do y'all ever hunt Louisiana or have any pointers? I learn alot from all your videos but I'd love to hear yalls input on southern deer terrain. Alot of pine plantation with hardwood bottoms through it and also bottomland hardwood swamps. I'd love to hunt where those two meet but so far I haven't found that on public

    • @thehuntingbeast
      @thehuntingbeast  3 роки тому

      I have not yet hunted Louisiana... Deer are the same where ever you go, what changes is the terrain... Thicker and greener and harder to read in the south, but they bed the same.

  • @bowhunter9288
    @bowhunter9288 3 роки тому

    I hunt a tamarack swamp. I get lost a lot.

  • @justinkemper182
    @justinkemper182 3 роки тому +1

    Where would you set up for these bedded bucks on edges and stuff?

    • @thehuntingbeast
      @thehuntingbeast  3 роки тому +1

      Either where you pre-scouted beds in spring, or where buck sign is coming out of the transition from assumed bedding.

  • @ag0nizingdemise
    @ag0nizingdemise 3 роки тому +3

    Thank god, one of my spots is a pine jungle.

  • @thebluecollarbowhunter360
    @thebluecollarbowhunter360 3 роки тому +1

    Dan quick question say you have a spot you picked from an aerial and going in blind to hunt keeping a just off wind would you go right to the edge and set up or ease up the edge until you hit good sign? So basically not having scouted the area what’s the best play?
    I ask this because I just moved and have spotted potential areas hard transitions on public that I know are solid but just curious about the game plan you would have with going in blind. Thanks Dan

    • @thehuntingbeast
      @thehuntingbeast  3 роки тому +2

      I would scout to an assumed position looking for sign... No sign, its on to the next spot.

  • @zacharyclark8905
    @zacharyclark8905 3 роки тому

    What about open bigger Pines but with a lot of blow downs I’ve seen a lot of beds and those that’s bordered hardwoods

  • @altorry1083
    @altorry1083 3 роки тому +1

    Great shirt dan!!

  • @jimmydabutler9022
    @jimmydabutler9022 3 роки тому +2

    Any experience with Florida pinewoods? Lol

  • @archeryhuntermike6701
    @archeryhuntermike6701 3 роки тому +1

    I love hunting pines

  • @williamcreamer7109
    @williamcreamer7109 3 роки тому +2

    Hi Dan. This is my first time writing you. I've often found pines, either thick or low to be great bedding and I typically hunt them in the winter months. Do you think they use pines year around?

    • @thehuntingbeast
      @thehuntingbeast  3 роки тому +1

      Yes, but it depends on the available cover outside of the pines, in winter they are a big attractant in a lot of cases.

    • @williamcreamer7109
      @williamcreamer7109 3 роки тому

      @@thehuntingbeast so by outside cover do you mean I am more likely to find them in the pines year around if it's the only cover around?

  • @chadilacnissen9717
    @chadilacnissen9717 3 роки тому +1

    Love the shirt!

  • @bentpolski
    @bentpolski Рік тому

    Dan what Year is Your Tacoma!!?? I drive a 2006.

  • @gregoryjohnson1317
    @gregoryjohnson1317 3 роки тому +1

    I hunt ANF in Pa, big woods. Lots of hemlock stands , not much small pine. Lots of deer sign but little bedding signs or bucks sign( rubs or scraps). Any suggestions

    • @thehuntingbeast
      @thehuntingbeast  3 роки тому

      When I hunted that area, leeward hills were the best spots...

    • @gregoryjohnson1317
      @gregoryjohnson1317 3 роки тому

      @@thehuntingbeast thanks. Ill look around this weekend. Big woods are tough. Some days I may only see a few deer, let alone a buck.

  • @Eastky23wildlife
    @Eastky23wildlife 4 місяці тому +1

    I’d pay someone to show me how to hunt this Deer he’s on the upper 1/3rd and he smells me when I come in Every time. I’m So aggravated. I’m in south eastern ky.

  • @robertboozer625
    @robertboozer625 3 роки тому +1

    Love the shirt.

  • @BelowAverageRazzleDazzle
    @BelowAverageRazzleDazzle 3 роки тому +1

    That shirt!!!!!!

  • @paulwakefield1015
    @paulwakefield1015 3 роки тому +1

    Great video. Did I hear that we didn’t think mature deer bed in the middle of corn??

    • @thehuntingbeast
      @thehuntingbeast  3 роки тому +1

      I have seen some places where they do and usually it for a specific reason... Like there is an opening in the corn, a ditch, a tree line, or some other way they can protect there bed from all sides. They bed on the down wind edge of the corn, or there is not adequate cover for protection anywhere else.... I often find does and young deer in corn, but if you study how bucks bed, they need security from danger and leaving an opportunity for a predator to sneak in along a row of corn dont fit that scenario most of the time. .

  • @tomellendorf7236
    @tomellendorf7236 3 роки тому +1

    That shirt!

  • @darrylsmijan9123
    @darrylsmijan9123 3 роки тому +1

    Love the cnn shirt

  • @ashtanga2000
    @ashtanga2000 3 роки тому +1

    these shirts are getting tiresome