This is one of the finest demonstrations of a spinning disc television I have seen. It is obviously made using modern components, but the basic theory is the same as the old 1920s experimental sets.
yeah, but imagine its the 1920s and being able to do sound over radio waves is still New, Amazing Technology. To people at the time, this must've looked as futuristic as a star wars hologram projector does to us.
@Scott Nilsson Shut the fuck up, we literally have better video and camera quality. iSheeps are still assuming they never overpaid for their shit when they always have been
@@paulbunyangonewild7596You're not viewing it from the edge 🤦♂️ There's about zero risk of anything from the viewing position, and very little otherwise. This is why experiencing the real world instead of witnessing it on a computer screen is important.
Funny. I was born in the mid 50’s, and the first thing I remember ever seeing on TV was Popeye. Of course, by then it was all electronic with a cathode ray picture tube, and it was a good sized set. From my memory, it was probably a 20” diagonal screen. lol I was such a Popeye fan, that I begged my mom to buy spinach for me! And....she did! It was even Popeye brand spinach (do they still have this?)
Wasn´t the story that a laboratory accidently shifted a decimal point in the iron content of spinach, so it became a magical powerfood - and everyone got hyped about that?
I remember building a very primitive version for a college project 40 years ago using a 12" LP and managed to produce an 8 line image of an illuminated light bulb and that was as far as I went with it. Yours is an excellent build.😊👍👍👍👍
@@nathanburrill8000 They didn't actually say they remembered it themselves, though. There are seniors who are quite savvy with computers, and younger people who are not. It varies. You can't decide just based on their ages.
Try , Peter Spies you tube channel...... Mechanical 32 LINE COLOUR TV MONITOR " NBTV " " Also Shows Circuitry and some paper work , manuals etc ." Note that there is two you tube channels with the name " Peter Spies "
Basically, the camera end had a spinning disk as well, and it 'scanned' an image and a photocell behind the disk varied with the light. The receiver as shown here, had a spinning disk with the same hole pattern, synchronized with the camera disk, and a varying light source to rebuild the image. The eye's natural latency, allowed the perception of a whole picture.
If you know how a CRT works its the same principle. Except instead of the light source moving across a screen the screen is moving across the light source.
That is a very nice build. I’ve seen some ‘concept’ projects which are lacking finesse. I like the style you chose, the shape of the front, the printed labels and the neat cable management to the rear. 10/10!
It's crazy how even with the absurdly low resolution, your brain can kinda fill in the gaps *enough* so you can still *kinda* tell what's going on. Very impressive how well it works! (Obviously still pales in comparison to even the earliest cathode ray tube televisions though.)
Oh the memories I have of finagling a TV antenna with a coat hanger and some aluminum foil, just to get a snowy image of channel 49... Kids today don't know how good they have it!!
I thought this was Great! I thought I saw Color in the beginning? This system really should have been approved until Cathode Ray System’s could do better! We would have had far more TV from 1928 until 1939 when mechanical was outrun. Thank You for sharing! And all your work!
I'm sure I'm getting it all wrong but Philo Farnsworth supposedly got the idea for the line/scan TV transmission method when he was watching a farmer using a plough on his field.
Electronic TVs used a couple circuits called Flywheel Synch, where the scan (line & frame) was set to start according to the incoming picture pulses then kept to the correct speed by mimicking the inertia of a flywheel. It was achieved by a couple of diodes and some capacitors in a Colpitts oscillator. I see your Nipkow disk arrangement has a frame end detector, giving that "Flywheel" effect a more mechanical meaning, although I suspect you keep the drive motor in step with that and the incoming video by means of a comparator and loop lock circuit for the servo function.
Nice. You know mechanical TVs detractors aside it's limitations aren't that severe if you change up a few things. For instance switching from the encoder _wheel_ to a _barrel_ shape would simultaneously eliminate the arcing scan lines and increase rotation refresh rates given the encoders smaller diameter per image size. Taken further a tape or belt would be a lot harder to keep exactly in synch with the recording device but if done would almost eliminate the size limits on the screen and so vastly increase practical resolutions too.
How were you able to record the 12.5 frames per second without flicker? I have built several mechanical televisions and can not get video of them operating. I am not the only one having this issue. (You can click through to my channel to see my current effort and reply there if you'd like)
Hmm, It seems to be fed with composite, analogue video, so I don't think that '4 bit' necessarily applies. It's output from VLC. so there is D-A conversion going on somewhere. That MIGHT be 4-bit, I guess.
The scan rate (refresh rate) is actually pretty good. But if you wanted bump up the resolution to say 480i, you would either have to make a bigger disc, make smaller holes or use a belt.
@@andyy2008 Oh, usually raster scan type displays look worse on camera. (EDIT) 12.5 would probably do more damage to your eyes since the refresh rate is so slow that your eyes have to keep adjusting to flickering images where as 60hz and above, your eyes don't bother. Then again, faster could be even worse for your eyes.
Projector version would be cool. You could start with the same design. (and then hide a camera looking at the screen and a dlp projector in the case, carefully defocused so it doesn't look too good)
OK, we can see the through-holes (or transparent spots) in one plane (on the disk)... what crosses that to provide the rasterized picture? Is this one of a pair of synchronous Nipkow disks?
So that was television was like before CRT started to be the main thing television manufactures used in the 1950's up to 2009. Also that TV is quite mind blowing, considering what type of mechanics it used.
CRTs were used from the 1930s+ Mechanical TVs were in the 20s and died in the 30s. They didn’t take off all that well. CRTs were being introduced in a similar time, and CRTs clearly won with their 405 lines (then 625 later on) compared to mechanical TVs 30 lines.
John Logie Baird's mechanical evidently could only achieve a maximum resolution of 240 lines a second if televising filmed material, was noisy and motor & back light wise much less refined than this example. No LED lighting back in the 1930's. No contest with a 405 line Cathode Ray Tube fully electronic tv that was far more better all round. Excellent impressive display. What next 240 line LED 'HD' mechanical tv? Would be interesting to see what could achieved!
Any chance of tech details so someone could build one? (by someone I mean .... me.) I live in Hastings UK, where mechanical tv was invented, and I'm a retired av technician (and editor of a 3-vol. History of Early Television). And as it happens, I'm also a big Popeye fan - since 1957. Seriously keen to have more tech details.
Amazing how the UA-cam definition, somehow UNdermines the very low definition of the mechanical TV that DEPENDS on the ability of how human eyes count on the frame rate to blur images in a way to make the notice of objects and people from this thing. Good work on that mechanical television. I'd love to make my own.
Play some fall out pretty please.... and oh my God this is so cool please go into great detail about this I want to know how this thing works and how I can make my own glitter D please I really really really think this is amazing and you know they developed a color TV version of this which I think would be super cool to make two
Why does the horizontal resolution look as though it's also low resolution digital with defined sharp pixel edges? Surely it should only have poor vertical resolution. Is this a compression artifact from recording and upload?
0:11 This music reminds me of the time of the Vikings and Ertugrul Ghazi and Two Handed Swords....very excessive age music...In the Faerytale Era they didn't have gunpowder, engines, or electricity so television worked using NBTV over a Toslink optical cable and a falling weight and governor mechanism...the sound is optical shining the temperature difference modulated audio onto a muscle wire attached to a paper cone from a high temperature candle..
isn't it more simple to split the red blue green like some older DVD player outputs have? Then just use a 4 pin RGB LED (1 pin being a common). I think it is the green output that has the sync on it though. Maybe I am making it far too simple than a 3 terminal RCA video output actually is.
Hello ! No, this is not a kit, we built this by ourselves, me and my dad, and the source is a wave file, converted from a video file, using a program called Video2NBTV by Gary Millard.
Instead of a large disc, could this be consolidated using a strip of paper or film with holes punched in it, and have it run in a loop? Seems like it would be smaller than a massive disc. Cool project anyways.
@@andyy2008 I understand that this project was an attempt to re-create early mechanical television prototypes, I just wondered other ways this concept of a mechanical television could be implemented.
This is one of the finest demonstrations of a spinning disc television I have seen. It is obviously made using modern components, but the basic theory is the same as the old 1920s experimental sets.
For a mechanical TV I think this is impressive!
Mechanical TV got up to 200 lines in the 1930s.
yeah, the stability of the picture is pretty good
This is probably about the best a nipkow-disk TV can be.
Also it has a really good contrast.
@@DoubleMonoLR I don't think so! Me thinks the highest was 108 lines
Nah, the 1950's mechanical televisions were impressive.
This is the first mechanical TV video I've seen on UA-cam where the TV actually works - with a bright, stable image. Nice job!
really impressive!
I would like to do something like this, really cool!
Try ,
Peter Spies you tube channel......
Mechanical 32 LINE COLOUR TV MONITOR
This is closer to how it looks in real life, the camera used to record the TV was definitely set up just right
@@ns6q333 I disagree. Mechanical displays actually look better in person
This makes the Sega CD look like BlueRay.
LMAO
yeah, but imagine its the 1920s and being able to do sound over radio waves is still New, Amazing Technology.
To people at the time, this must've looked as futuristic as a star wars hologram projector does to us.
lol
@Scott Nilsson Shut the fuck up, we literally have better video and camera quality.
iSheeps are still assuming they never overpaid for their shit when they always have been
BOOM roasted
“Don’t sit so close to the tv it isn’t good for you” simply does not work here
I disagree I think a giant spinning disk would be even more reason to stay away.
You'll put your eye out kid!
Well... There's significantly less radiation.
@@KonElKent light is a radiation.....
@@paulbunyangonewild7596You're not viewing it from the edge 🤦♂️
There's about zero risk of anything from the viewing position, and very little otherwise. This is why experiencing the real world instead of witnessing it on a computer screen is important.
Funny. I was born in the mid 50’s, and the first thing I remember ever seeing on TV was Popeye. Of course, by then it was all electronic with a cathode ray picture tube, and it was a good sized set. From my memory, it was probably a 20” diagonal screen. lol I was such a Popeye fan, that I begged my mom to buy spinach for me! And....she did! It was even Popeye brand spinach (do they still have this?)
ya i've seen it at price chopper at least
They have some at Walmart and most big box retailers. Good stuff. What a smart way to make kids (or adults) eat vegetables.
Did they deliver spinach that far up in the north pole?
Confirmed, santa eats spinach, likes popeye, and watches UA-cam.
They do, I think it's sold by Allens brand
Wasn´t the story that a laboratory accidently shifted a decimal point in the iron content of spinach, so it became a magical powerfood - and everyone got hyped about that?
32p, we meet again.
It’s amazing that the highly expressive cartoon characters remain recognizable in this quality
This is the only demonstration of a mechanical TV I've ever seen that actually worked reasonably well.
Try :
Peter Spies you tube channel......
Mechanical 32-line COLOUR TV MONITOR
Technology Connections brought me here.
Me too!
Me three!
@@ChiragRajputS me four!
@@leemilica Me five lol.
It brought me here too, I needed to see how an actual mechanical tv worked instead of a makeshift one lmao. Great video as usual, though.
If I saw this in 1930s i would be super impressed
But crucially, this ISN'T the 1930s! 😂😂😂
Hmm I'd be too busy preventing the Holocaust to care but you do you
ZCJKF13GDG4 simp moron
ZCJKF13GDG4 how do you prevent something which never happened
@@bobcostas6272 nazi alert
Holy Crap, the quality on this is crazy good
@Allen S For a mechanically produced picture it pretty good.
@@Ron2600_ Especially diy
@Allen S You have not got even the shade of a shimmer of an idea what was achieved here.
Blimey! You must have a REALLY POOR TV? 👎😂
@Allen S ignorance is a bliss, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
I remember building a very primitive version for a college project 40 years ago using a 12" LP and managed to produce an 8 line image of an illuminated light bulb and that was as far as I went with it. Yours is an excellent build.😊👍👍👍👍
Only 30's kids remember this...
Are you 80? If so how TF you know hot to use a computer at most when my parents strugle
@@nathanburrill8000 r/woosh
r/woosh
@@nathanburrill8000 r/whooosh
@@nathanburrill8000 They didn't actually say they remembered it themselves, though.
There are seniors who are quite savvy with computers, and younger people who are not. It varies. You can't decide just based on their ages.
Surprisingly good quality for a mechanically generated raster! Well done!
Thank you :)
Try ,
Peter Spies you tube channel......
Mechanical 32 LINE COLOUR TV MONITOR
" NBTV " " Also Shows Circuitry and some paper work , manuals etc ."
Note that there is two you tube channels with the name " Peter Spies "
Popeye was punching trees for wood years before Minecraft’s Steve did.
"Years" is underselling it.
@@4.0.4 decades, nearly a century at this point
John Logie Baird would be impressed.
I have always pictured Popeye the Sailor Man on an antique tv set. Maybe not a mechanical tv set like this one. But any old tv set.
What awesome workmanship. Mechanical TV technology was just amazing for its time.
Best demonstration of a mechanical TV, I’ve seen.....still don’t understand how it worked!
No, I have no idea
Basically, the camera end had a spinning disk as well, and it 'scanned' an image and a photocell behind the disk varied with the light. The receiver as shown here, had a spinning disk with the same hole pattern, synchronized with the camera disk, and a varying light source to rebuild the image. The eye's natural latency, allowed the perception of a whole picture.
If you know how a CRT works its the same principle. Except instead of the light source moving across a screen the screen is moving across the light source.
I came for the television but stayed for the cartoon.
Always wondered what films look like on mechanical TV - thanks!
Realplayer is back I see!
That is a very nice build. I’ve seen some ‘concept’ projects which are lacking finesse. I like the style you chose, the shape of the front, the printed labels and the neat cable management to the rear. 10/10!
This video was filmed with a mechanical camera and edited on an antikythera mechanism.
Just fascinating how this actually produces discernible images
Sixty four bits, thirty two bit, sixteen bits, eight bits, FOUR BITS, TWO BITS, ONE BIT HALF BIT QUARTER BIT
MECHANICAL TELEVISION
It's crazy how even with the absurdly low resolution, your brain can kinda fill in the gaps *enough* so you can still *kinda* tell what's going on. Very impressive how well it works! (Obviously still pales in comparison to even the earliest cathode ray tube televisions though.)
But if you've never seen Popeye cartoons before, would it be the same?
Wow. I think that this is the best quality ever get by a Nipkov disc. Well done.
Crazy thing is, we would have settled for this resolution not that long ago.
Oh the memories I have of finagling a TV antenna with a coat hanger and some aluminum foil, just to get a snowy image of channel 49... Kids today don't know how good they have it!!
That’s really cool! I can’t believe how perfectly it works.
and no copyright match
@@force311999 The most impressive fact tbh
Best picture I've seen from one of these, very impressive.
I thought this was Great! I thought I saw Color in the beginning? This system really should have been approved until Cathode Ray System’s could do better! We would have had far more TV from 1928 until 1939 when mechanical was outrun. Thank You for sharing! And all your work!
I think the BBC had this system
It didn't take long for CRTs to surpass mechanical scanning. Most countries switched to electronic in 1935 or 1936
I'm sure I'm getting it all wrong but Philo Farnsworth supposedly got the idea for the line/scan TV transmission method when he was watching a farmer using a plough on his field.
But can it handle Crysis?
Yes, as long as your PC can handle the game.
And Doom as well
it could, but it wouldn't be fun.
This is god damn beautiful!
Not bad for 130 year old technology
It looks like a pretty impressively manufactured set. Mass produced, it would make a neat novelty toy.
Electronic TVs used a couple circuits called Flywheel Synch, where the scan (line & frame) was set to start according to the incoming picture pulses then kept to the correct speed by mimicking the inertia of a flywheel. It was achieved by a couple of diodes and some capacitors in a Colpitts oscillator.
I see your Nipkow disk arrangement has a frame end detector, giving that "Flywheel" effect a more mechanical meaning, although I suspect you keep the drive motor in step with that and the incoming video by means of a comparator and loop lock circuit for the servo function.
Yes, it uses a PLL to keep it in sync.
Awesome! The first time I've seen a mechanical TV in operation.
Nice. You know mechanical TVs detractors aside it's limitations aren't that severe if you change up a few things. For instance switching from the encoder _wheel_ to a _barrel_ shape would simultaneously eliminate the arcing scan lines and increase rotation refresh rates given the encoders smaller diameter per image size. Taken further a tape or belt would be a lot harder to keep exactly in synch with the recording device but if done would almost eliminate the size limits on the screen and so vastly increase practical resolutions too.
Eh it would probably look just fine once i take off my glasses
I've been on a HOW ELECTRONICS WORK rabbit hole lately, and mechanical TV is just something I didn't imagine existing.
I'm honestly impressed by the quality all things considered.
@Scott Nilsson And how do you figure that?
@@Floccinaucinihilipilificator i know this is a year old but dude was being an ignorant troll.
Gorgeous build!
How were you able to record the 12.5 frames per second without flicker? I have built several mechanical televisions and can not get video of them operating. I am not the only one having this issue. (You can click through to my channel to see my current effort and reply there if you'd like)
The way television was MEANT to be viewed.
Good work, sir! Incredibly low resolution, but the image is solid still and recognizable! 👍
4 BIT picture
Its mechanical, so it would be wrong to call it anything except 32p, which is true, but not really.
assopra dvd ik
Wot bits,we only ‘ave analog val’us
Hmm, It seems to be fed with composite, analogue video, so I don't think that '4 bit' necessarily applies. It's output from VLC. so there is D-A conversion going on somewhere. That MIGHT be 4-bit, I guess.
32 lines, that is 5bit
The tracking on this reminds me so much of vhs head tracking except an analog dial
How did you put Popeye's drawing on a vintage TV like you do?
I wonder if you could put a lens in front of it to get a very, very dim, but projector? In a perfectly dark room, that could enable social viewing.
This is breathtaking! Or, should I say, Bairdtaking. Congratulations!
Now imagine replacing your lg oled with that
verry much thx!
well done!
best of modern replicate:)
greets and best regards from Germany!
Thank you very much !
And now you know why they banned cocaine in Coca Cola nearly 100 years ago.
You had to be on coke to understand whats happening on that screen
How did the original mechanical television broadcast systems maintain synchronization?
There was one syncpulse per rotation of the disc
@@vyratron839 similar to the CRT FLYBACK PULSE but it isn’t interlaced.
Mechanical Television, The short lived medium, was the DVD player back in the day.
More curious about the name of the song and what group is signing it?
Midnight Star - Operator
Came for the vintage tech, stayed for the Zapp & Roger
I am impressed ... the quality picture is so good ... looks almost unreal for mechanical TV .. like CGI ;-)
how does it work?
So fascinating how TV's were back then
Looks like a VideoNow player 😂
But in all seriousness, the idea behind mechanical televisions was so ingenious.
Never seen something of this much quality
@Scott Nilsson 🤦
32p
Nice construction etc.!😎👍🏻
The scan rate (refresh rate) is actually pretty good. But if you wanted bump up the resolution to say 480i, you would either have to make a bigger disc, make smaller holes or use a belt.
Refresh rate is 12.5 Hz. It's a bit worse if you see it with your own eyes, but on camera it's not that bad.
@@andyy2008 Oh, usually raster scan type displays look worse on camera.
(EDIT) 12.5 would probably do more damage to your eyes since the refresh rate is so slow that your eyes have to keep adjusting to flickering images where as 60hz and above, your eyes don't bother. Then again, faster could be even worse for your eyes.
Projector version would be cool. You could start with the same design.
(and then hide a camera looking at the screen and a dlp projector in the case, carefully defocused so it doesn't look too good)
Nice, kind of tempted to build one. Pity you didn't include any details, other than a program
This is exceedingly impressive.
CD Projekt : "It runs surprisingly good"
Respect, this a quality, amazing what you build. Congratulations and thank you for showing. cu Toni
OK, we can see the through-holes (or transparent spots) in one plane (on the disk)... what crosses that to provide the rasterized picture? Is this one of a pair of synchronous Nipkow disks?
The holes are in a spiral and only one disc is needed
@@vyratron839 Interesting. So... how do you synchronize light flashes and brightness to wheel position?
better quality than the camera your using in 2018
Merci beaucoup bravo pour ce travail, comment récupérer le programme visionné, le format étant particulier
What video signal do you use? How can you synchronize?
So that was television was like before CRT started to be the main thing television manufactures used in the 1950's up to 2009. Also that TV is quite mind blowing, considering what type of mechanics it used.
CRTs were used from the 1930s+
Mechanical TVs were in the 20s and died in the 30s. They didn’t take off all that well. CRTs were being introduced in a similar time, and CRTs clearly won with their 405 lines (then 625 later on) compared to mechanical TVs 30 lines.
John Logie Baird's mechanical evidently could only achieve a maximum resolution of 240 lines a second if televising filmed material, was noisy and motor & back light wise much less refined than this example. No LED lighting back in the 1930's. No contest with a 405 line Cathode Ray Tube fully electronic tv that was far more better all round.
Excellent impressive display.
What next 240 line LED 'HD' mechanical tv? Would be interesting to see what could achieved!
@@19seventy97 There were CRT televisions from the 1930's? I thought the oldest CRT television to ever be made dated back to the 1940's
Yep, here in the UK CRT based television sets were in 1935/36
Incredibly uncommon and the time, and moreso now due to many being trashed
Thanks beautiful work.
Any chance of tech details so someone could build one? (by someone I mean .... me.) I live in Hastings UK, where mechanical tv was invented, and I'm a retired av technician (and editor of a 3-vol. History of Early Television). And as it happens, I'm also a big Popeye fan - since 1957. Seriously keen to have more tech details.
Lookup Bechanical TV's, by the UA-cam channel Technology Connections. He has great explainations.
Technology Connections actually made a makeshift mechanical tv that somewhat kinda worked out of a led and a spinning lp with holes in it
@@entidade1000 Thanks!
@@erikparawell8476 Thanks!
Wooow que bien calibrada tienes esta televisión.
Surprisingly watchable.
Amazing how the UA-cam definition, somehow UNdermines the very low definition of the mechanical TV that DEPENDS on the ability of how human eyes count on the frame rate to blur images in a way to make the notice of objects and people from this thing.
Good work on that mechanical television. I'd love to make my own.
But can you use this as a gaming monitor?
Could and should are 2 different things.
Play some fall out pretty please.... and oh my God this is so cool please go into great detail about this I want to know how this thing works and how I can make my own glitter D please I really really really think this is amazing and you know they developed a color TV version of this which I think would be super cool to make two
32 pixels tall! That's so impressive
That opening music, pure 80's...
Indeed, and the song is called “Operator” by Midnight Star
@@gustavoceballos5327
Almost never played on Chicago's B96.
But the top 40 countdown would.
Otherwise never would have heard it.
How many pictures per second?
12.5
Why does the horizontal resolution look as though it's also low resolution digital with defined sharp pixel edges? Surely it should only have poor vertical resolution.
Is this a compression artifact from recording and upload?
I suppose the set is being fed a digitally converted signal, to 32x45 or whatever?
@@MarzoVarea it's a logical assumption. Someone's down converted a digital video to low resolution to feed the signal processing and driver stage.
Please note, I subscribed because of this video
is this a 1930s tv or some DIY from ebay or amazon?
0:11 This music reminds me of the time of the Vikings and Ertugrul Ghazi and Two Handed Swords....very excessive age music...In the Faerytale Era they didn't have gunpowder, engines, or electricity so television worked using NBTV over a Toslink optical cable and a falling weight and governor mechanism...the sound is optical shining the temperature difference modulated audio onto a muscle wire attached to a paper cone from a high temperature candle..
Nice rig.
How did you make the test video used?
How old is this?
Oh to feel the novelty this must have been once again.
I wonder if you can make it color with an RGB led. Have to find a way to buffer the color burst, ugh then convert yuv to rgb. ugh.
Yes you can
ua-cam.com/video/lDzmPBzbgwE/v-deo.html
isn't it more simple to split the red blue green like some older DVD player outputs have? Then just use a 4 pin RGB LED (1 pin being a common). I think it is the green output that has the sync on it though.
Maybe I am making it far too simple than a 3 terminal RCA video output actually is.
@@k_tess you have to spin it 3 times faster
Cool, but I can definitely see why these didn't catch on.
Класс! А откуда сигнал? И почему так мало лайков?
I've seen these before on UA-cam. This must be a kit you buy and assemble. What type of source are you using, a VCR , or DVD player ?
Hello ! No, this is not a kit, we built this by ourselves, me and my dad, and the source is a wave file, converted from a video file, using a program called Video2NBTV by Gary Millard.
Instead of a large disc, could this be consolidated using a strip of paper or film with holes punched in it, and have it run in a loop? Seems like it would be smaller than a massive disc. Cool project anyways.
It had to be as close to the original disc as possible, although other techniques are also possible of course.
@@andyy2008 I understand that this project was an attempt to re-create early mechanical television prototypes, I just wondered other ways this concept of a mechanical television could be implemented.
so, this was a product back then? Not a diy project?
Is that yours??? If it is, do some more!!! Please. That device you've modified is totally bad ass. I grew up on Popeye.
Its not modified they are designed to do that