How about using government funds to build housing for the homeless? If we can spend billions in other countries instead of helping citizens in America 🇺🇸 🙄
They already did that... It's called HUD. Those apartments usually get stripped of copper within 5 years, especially in places like Seattle, Portland, LA, and NY where open air drug use is no longer treated as a crime. I agree we shouldn't be funding numerous proxy wars, but giving away money for junkies to burn is arguably just as bad... If not worse
There's enough housing for the homeless in America. People aren't compelled to use it and would prefer to live on the street. They wouldn't be permitted to use alcohol or drugs in the shelters.
@@gunclubprez but one big misconception is that they are "just" homeless. There is no talk about the fact there are programs to get clean but a lot of them don't opt for it. This is outside of the corruption of the homeless programs and the sloughing of money that happens within them. There are a lot more issues besides housing that need to be addressed and will never be addressed as long as people continue to glorify mental health and addiction.
This will push homeless people to rural areas that have fewer resources to help them. My home "town" (more like a small village) in the south already has encampments out in the woods.
This is so awful. Millionares and billionaires having the audacity to fuss about homelessness in a country where we can clearly afford to overpay athletes, musicians, movie stars and more. Now this! Gtfoh
So now, instead of camping in public spaces, they will camp in private places. That means they will be tresspassing on private property. These communities are being idiots.
If people start calling on private property, they can be trespassed and arrested if it happens again, so no, it won't just be a civil matter. It will, however, flood jails with offenders who had no other options and, as a result of having a criminal record, have even fewer options as a result. Criminalizing homelessness only makes things worse for everyone.
They refuse services constantly because they know they can do whatever they want with no consequences. They can go into the woods like deep in the woods…. Oh wait they prefer easy access to their drugs and convenience to a lawless lifestyle…
When billionaire oligarchs rig an economy so as to extract excessive wealth, through suppressed wages, from hard working Americans, creating conditions that make it impossible for millions of people in this country to afford basic living expenses, homelessness will be an inevitable result. The solution isn’t to criminalize homelessness. It’s to create a more just economy that enables every participant to live and thrive.
I feel this will go to far and then we’ll eventually backpedal the law some because guaranteed this messes with recreational campers or people in trailer homes/ semi trailers to rest. This could be enforced on truckers who sleep at a parks parking lot
@@jamaraquai4224 I'm sorry. Everything has an effect. Everyone has a choice. I have worked with homeless folks. They all made decisions that led to their situation. The people paying taxes for the property, they are the ones who have no choice.
@@kathyheavner3585 _Such_ a contradiction. "Everyone has a choice," and then two sentences later, "[x] group has no choice." It doesn't matter whether or not you've worked with homeless people: you can't say you've worked with _all_ homeless people, therefore you can't say, "All homeless people made a choice that made them homeless." At its core, your outlook lacks empathy, which is the truest characteristic of American society.
@@jamaraquai4224 you don't understand English. It's not a contradiction to say this one thing is false, however this other thing is true. That's just a statement of fact 😉
What should the homeless do? Basic needs should not be a struggle. They should be PROVIDED by our elected officials. Otherwise, why are you in the office if not to make life better for WE THE PEOPLE.
In an idyllic world, yeah. 100% agreed. But in reality, the vast majority of elected officials are so out of touch with the people they represent, that they couldn't and wouldn't advocate for them if their lives depended on it. Politicians exist to push the agendas of those who paid to put them into and keep them in office. "We the people" is just an echo shouted in the past and fading further into worthless rhetoric with every passing election.
Now let's watch even people sitting on park bench arrested for camping...and even if they can prove they have alternative housing..so now they can legally beat u down for resist and arrest at will
its illegal to be alive now they aernt camping. theyve built homes in a city to be close to resources and community like any other city dweller these politicians could legalize public lands in a designated space to do this but they wont
There used to be a time when those who didnt have a home were not seen being lazy in the streets, but would be out looking for day work. Now they get paid to do nothing
The highest law of the land, even the whole world, is the law of sowing and reaping. When you sow something, you will reap the results. I hope the mayor reaps everything 10 fold soon.
Good news! Homelessness is not a crime but what is a crime: all the things they do while being “homeless”. I used to be a big supporter of this population, but after seeing that this is more a lifestyle for the big majority (lawless life) and they refuse all the services given to them, THEN i said, this is not our problem anymore to solve their issues of accountability. We will end homelessness when we make it against the law…
Good thing _everyone_ can be thrown into the same boat - no exceptions. And you, man, it sure is good to know that you've worked with, literally, every single homeless person in the streets today, otherwise baseless claims like yours would be downright misleading and not at all frought with anecdotal experiences characterized by entitlement and bitterness. >_>
Better yet, let's blame everything on Pinocchio. At least, in that case, he's a literal puppet and not the figurative version that, literally, every president embodies.
Here's the deal, if you give them 24 hours to move out of city limits, or get services, eventually they will be moved to other cities with the same ordinances. Eventually they will be on state land in king county out by fall city or up in Snohomish in the woods. Eventually these people will choose services and responsibility over being pushed further and further from food and panhandeling opportunities. Not to mention the assaults and aggressive behaviors.
How about using government funds to build housing for the homeless? If we can spend billions in other countries instead of helping citizens in America 🇺🇸 🙄
How about we lock them I'm a rehab facility since California has proven that ideas like yours don't work
They already did that... It's called HUD. Those apartments usually get stripped of copper within 5 years, especially in places like Seattle, Portland, LA, and NY where open air drug use is no longer treated as a crime.
I agree we shouldn't be funding numerous proxy wars, but giving away money for junkies to burn is arguably just as bad... If not worse
There's enough housing for the homeless in America. People aren't compelled to use it and would prefer to live on the street. They wouldn't be permitted to use alcohol or drugs in the shelters.
Don’t rely on the government to solve problems. They only make them worse.
@@gunclubprez but one big misconception is that they are "just" homeless. There is no talk about the fact there are programs to get clean but a lot of them don't opt for it.
This is outside of the corruption of the homeless programs and the sloughing of money that happens within them. There are a lot more issues besides housing that need to be addressed and will never be addressed as long as people continue to glorify mental health and addiction.
This will push homeless people to rural areas that have fewer resources to help them. My home "town" (more like a small village) in the south already has encampments out in the woods.
This is so awful. Millionares and billionaires having the audacity to fuss about homelessness in a country where we can clearly afford to overpay athletes, musicians, movie stars and more. Now this! Gtfoh
So now, instead of camping in public spaces, they will camp in private places. That means they will be tresspassing on private property. These communities are being idiots.
So who is going to pay for all these homeless to be put in jail. Start spending some money on housing for them. Veterans first
Stop giving one party full power to run your city.
When you allow government to do anything the only result is that it is guaranteed nothing will get done.
Maybe stop giving them free crap
Now they'll just camp on private property, and the cops will say "Sorry, it's a civil matter, we can't help you."
If people start calling on private property, they can be trespassed and arrested if it happens again, so no, it won't just be a civil matter. It will, however, flood jails with offenders who had no other options and, as a result of having a criminal record, have even fewer options as a result. Criminalizing homelessness only makes things worse for everyone.
All these richers pulling this crap need to spend 3 months being homeless or made permanently homeless.
Way to go I hope everyone one in the city government has to face homeless
So where are the supposed to go? There is no housing for them? Services!? Really like what?
They refuse services constantly because they know they can do whatever they want with no consequences. They can go into the woods like deep in the woods…. Oh wait they prefer easy access to their drugs and convenience to a lawless lifestyle…
How about treatment centers or a shelter instead of just kicking people out should they be in the city no but give them something to help them
Yes strangely you are and is not constitutional
When billionaire oligarchs rig an economy so as to extract excessive wealth, through suppressed wages, from hard working Americans, creating conditions that make it impossible for millions of people in this country to afford basic living expenses, homelessness will be an inevitable result.
The solution isn’t to criminalize homelessness. It’s to create a more just economy that enables every participant to live and thrive.
How about enforcing all laws at all times? Interesting concept, I know, but it must be worth a shot.
Another win for the for profit prison system.
I don't care where you go but you can't stay here
I feel this will go to far and then we’ll eventually backpedal the law some because guaranteed this messes with recreational campers or people in trailer homes/ semi trailers to rest. This could be enforced on truckers who sleep at a parks parking lot
What? That is ridiculous..
The sheriff failed their duty.
Squatting is not camping but camping is practicing homelessness.
so members of the public arent allowed to use public space???? lol
Nah. Only people who can pay at.least 30 grand a year for a one bedroom apartment are members of the public.
Where does they want them to go?
the woods
anywhere besides the middle of the city
Who cares?
@@ulfhedknarthedestroyer1753all of the people talking about it, on both sides of the argument, presumably
The employment agency.
People shouldn't be able to squat on the sidewalks.
@@kathyheavner3585 Some people don't have a choice.
@@jamaraquai4224 I'm sorry.
Everything has an effect.
Everyone has a choice.
I have worked with homeless folks.
They all made decisions that led to their situation.
The people paying taxes for the property, they are the ones who have no choice.
@@kathyheavner3585 _Such_ a contradiction. "Everyone has a choice," and then two sentences later, "[x] group has no choice." It doesn't matter whether or not you've worked with homeless people: you can't say you've worked with _all_ homeless people, therefore you can't say, "All homeless people made a choice that made them homeless." At its core, your outlook lacks empathy, which is the truest characteristic of American society.
@@jamaraquai4224 you don't understand English.
It's not a contradiction to say this one thing is false, however this other thing is true.
That's just a statement of fact 😉
@@kathyheavner3585 You're very American. 😖
What should the homeless do? Basic needs should not be a struggle. They should be PROVIDED by our elected officials. Otherwise, why are you in the office if not to make life better for WE THE PEOPLE.
In an idyllic world, yeah. 100% agreed. But in reality, the vast majority of elected officials are so out of touch with the people they represent, that they couldn't and wouldn't advocate for them if their lives depended on it. Politicians exist to push the agendas of those who paid to put them into and keep them in office. "We the people" is just an echo shouted in the past and fading further into worthless rhetoric with every passing election.
What a heartless country ,
Now let's watch even people sitting on park bench arrested for camping...and even if they can prove they have alternative housing..so now they can legally beat u down for resist and arrest at will
Silly comment. B
Gavin Newsom approves.
Next step, Sheriff refuses to enforce it.
wtf. Does the sheriff not work for the mayor? He does not have the option of refusing to enforce laws.
Sheriff needs removal from office
Now enforce littering in all camping areas When evicted make sure they take ALL trash with them.
You're sick
its illegal to be alive now
they aernt camping. theyve built homes in a city to be close to resources and community like any other city dweller
these politicians could legalize public lands in a designated space to do this
but they wont
There used to be a time when those who didnt have a home were not seen being lazy in the streets, but would be out looking for day work. Now they get paid to do nothing
Well, good for him that he thinks it's constitutional. He's still wrong.
The highest law of the land, even the whole world, is the law of sowing and reaping. When you sow something, you will reap the results. I hope the mayor reaps everything 10 fold soon.
Good news! Homelessness is not a crime but what is a crime: all the things they do while being “homeless”. I used to be a big supporter of this population, but after seeing that this is more a lifestyle for the big majority (lawless life) and they refuse all the services given to them, THEN i said, this is not our problem anymore to solve their issues of accountability. We will end homelessness when we make it against the law…
Good thing _everyone_ can be thrown into the same boat - no exceptions. And you, man, it sure is good to know that you've worked with, literally, every single homeless person in the streets today, otherwise baseless claims like yours would be downright misleading and not at all frought with anecdotal experiences characterized by entitlement and bitterness. >_>
Since Biden got in homeless situation around Salem Oregon has increased substantially.
Better yet, let's blame everything on Pinocchio. At least, in that case, he's a literal puppet and not the figurative version that, literally, every president embodies.
Here's the deal, if you give them 24 hours to move out of city limits, or get services, eventually they will be moved to other cities with the same ordinances. Eventually they will be on state land in king county out by fall city or up in Snohomish in the woods. Eventually these people will choose services and responsibility over being pushed further and further from food and panhandeling opportunities. Not to mention the assaults and aggressive behaviors.