@@thederpmonster83there was this glitch where if two people crawl on each other they will fly. I am curious as to what causes that. Also why does vaulting cause so much fling
@@Lol99410 there have been a couple things now that you have to do in order to get to 3rd sac id recommend doing those before the 3rd sac comes out, but you probably got another few years before that even happens 💀
going from byteblox to this guy is like drinking from a septic tank, then traveling to mount fuji to scoop up handfuls of glistening water straight into your mouth. Excellent video, love it.
I really enjoyed this video, despite me not being a programmer, and I didn't expect you'd be one of the OG players from 2015. I must say though, this code only represents 2019 Miner's Haven. Since Talon and I started working on it, the game has gone through a few reworks, but nothing too major. Our next major update, Third Sacrifice, is a rewrite of the entire game. I saw you mentioned that every single item in the game had a script which contained their stats, which is something being changed so their stats no longer are stored in the item model. We also plan on reworking Sacrificing, Rebirthing, Research Points, the entire Cell Furnace category, implementing custom ore physics, and much more. I also appreciate the gameplay rating you gave, but I feel the game isn't that friendly to new players unfortunately. We don't introduce many of the mechanics in the game to the player that well and for the most part it's up to them to discover it. That on top of certain features showing you items you can't even access I feel can be a bit overwhelming as well (such as the Craftsman). I don't know if you mentioned this in your full stream or not, but I saw it mentioned in the comments. Berezaa stored gear in the Lighting tab because exploiters used to be able to spawn the gear in for themselves when they were stored somewhere else, and by storing them in Lighting it prevented them from spawning in the gear.
@@cobrak1ngs foxy just said he isn't a programmer, do you think he comes home from work and goes "i need to work on the third sacrifice update", this isn't his job bro, it's his hobby at best.
As a person who has played miners haven since its release, the upgrade counter fix that you proposed is actually a feature and has been for some time. Some mines now have upgrade counters not equal to zero (some negative, some positive) that allow or disallow certain mines from being used on a cell furnace Although the code for mines is extremely tedious as it forces you to manually update each one, it makes sense. Some mines have certain attributes that allow it to be used for certain things (fireproof, shields, susceptible to something, etc.) it is for this reason that I think the mines are laid out in the way that they are I am also not a computer scientist/software engineer so I don't have much theory behind my explanations, just using my knowledge of how the game works because I have been playing it for years
Idk much abt coding but another reason for the reflection thingy is because there are upgrades that reset upgrade count or whatnot or resets the resetter (tesla reseter, black dwarf, ultimate sacrifice)
its still a really bad solution; since you could do the same thing by setting an ores attribute back to 0 upgrade count instead of relying on the ores visual property as a check
long time miners haven modder, you didnt open the placement script. that thing is thousands of lines with temporary variable names. he uses several deprecated functions and other behaviors. also, this game was released early 2015, not 2016.
@@boi875_RBLX i mean he probably has code all over the place expecting them to be in lighting and it would just be unnecessary pain to change something that already works
This is a great video! ...well, almost. See, the open source version of Miner's Haven is drastically different from the current build, and especially different from anything found in whatever their test realm is. Without disclosing this, it makes it seem like the current build of MH has this exact same code, which is almost certainly not true at this point in time, and if not now then absolutely whenever the hell the Third Sacrifice releases. Still a good video, but I think this lack of clarification on your end is an important note for me.
@@GameScope-nf2wx 3rd sac will release, it's just the current devs are rewriting the entire game from the ground up and all items are being rebalanced and redesigned models, the open source code will have essentially 0% used in-game once 3rd sacrifice releases
@@Zonix_Official The open source version is literally shit in organization (no offense), so yeah, they wouldn't wantt to copy anything from that again, even the simplest of the codes.
10:05 funny thing you mention, in current MH its called Ore Tags, and cell furnaces wont process ore with an ore tag *but* some high tier upgraders remove ore tags, therefore allowing you to process upgraded ores in a cell furnace
Whenever you can, try to review the code of P.W.N.E.D. Incrypt (the 1st game in the P.W.N.E.D. series) which is open source. It's a fairly old ROBLOX game that I enjoyed a lot while it was still open and had players on. There is a version that restores it from its broken form (which is also the open source one). I really would like to see you try to add one of the following: 1) A new shop item 2) A new weapon (for any of the existing classes) 3) A new skill (for any of the existing classes) 4) A new class (model doesn't matter too much) 5) A new enemy (preferably with a skill that they can use) 6) A new boss 7) A new map I'm not the best at scripting but I love seeing videos like these. Take your time with it, no rush. :)
Bro while pwned 3 was on maintenance i played pwned 1 and 2 and wow....they are a hot mess lol. Very much a product of their time but you just spawn in and keep dying after 2 seconds. It's insane how pwned 3 is completely unrecognisable and how long pwned series has been going on for.
@@shoobzy3431 It's criminal how underrated it is. I want peeps to know more about it, but also about the old stuff which had higher chances of being memorable. I really had fun in all of the games. So sad that there are few people that know about PWNED 3.
@@Poltargot Fr bro. Before the revamp happened I remember pwned 3 regularly had like 10 players it's crazy. Roblox is such trash that people who copy and paste the same trash rng or simulator games become filthy rich meanwhile the people that make unique and creative, high effort games make basically no money and their games don't get advertised so have low player counts.
@@shoobzy3431 I'm not really playing ROBLOX anymore because of that. PWNED is great but, without people, it's not really that fun. I'm just enjoying some old flash games atm, like Shellcore Command. Pretty fun stuff!
Its funny that in the current version of miners haven the "upgrade counter" does exist, and it can play a huge part because some upgrades give different amount of upgrade counters, or some even give a negative amount of it, some ores even start with a negative number of upgrade counter Still, really awesome video
yo the editting is actual great and makes it very easy to understand what you are saying, i just think the stream vod section doesn't match it and would benefit by having editing that matches the whole video. I really like all the pictures you use for the items you discussed and I love the fonts for text since it makes it easy to read. Thanks for reviewing Miner's Haven, this has to be my favorite roblox game and i've currently gotten back into it.
This reminded me of that old item placement bug for pc that wasn't fixed for a whole year. Had to use an xbox controller lol. Good times I remember playing this a lot
Hi, "big" Miner's haven UA-camr here; and also coincidentally a software developer. MH's open source is what got me into software development and I really loved ur video because of it. For those unaware, Miner's haven's code has gotten pretty major rewrites in the years since it went open source. So the code you see is not actually what's being used in-game Keep up the good work
First video i'v watched of yours! super cool and original content, first time seeing something like this, I think you should do one on booga booga, the game is open source and it was HUGE back in 2019!! continue with the amazing work!
another game that would be really cool to look into is lumber tycoon 2. being an old game, it was also made before replicatedStorage and i think it would be very interesting to dive into how it works, because some mechanics are complex while others are simple
Redifining string is SMART. It's actually protection. Not widely used when making games (indie), especially in Roblox, but it is great practice. It's used for anti-debugging purposes.
Extremely popular in the begining yes, but now the developers lead you on saying an update is coming but delay it year after year. Then when we do get info on progress nothing is done but map building.
just found this in my recommendations and it looks good. if your thinking about it, you should code review another roblox game, mechanical ascension X. it has a lot of content compared to miner's haven and it acts somewhat the same with miner's haven as well.
You should do a code review for Zeppelin Wars. They released the studio file a few months ago and the game contains many common mistakes I've seen newer devs make.
I’m not sure but couldn’t have Berezaa added a NumberValue and make it increase when the ore gets upgraded? Would be perfect for checking if an ore got upgraded Also amazing video! Keep up the good work!
as an actual developer and contributor to a multitude of games that are still active, i'd rate that code to be a number so far below the scale for 1-5 stars it is insane, there is zero optimisation whatsoever, it's very easily exploitable, i don't think there's anything good about this code
Miner's Haven was open-sourced years ago, so I just searched it up on Google. If you're curious: github.com/berezaa/minershaven As for other games, it's a mix between asking developers and/or the game being uncopylocked.
@foshess Got a lot of talent, I'll give you that. If you ever need something to do commission wise lmk. Personally I'd love someone with your capabilities
i feel like a lot of the actual organization and nuance got lost because bereza just made the base of it open source and accessible, most people modding it wouldnt care about backend stuff.
from what I’ve read, the next big update (third sacrifice) is a rewrite and rework of the entire game, so I’d have to assume they’re trying to optimize it?
lumber tycoon 2 code review, there is a 2017 version out there and the code is horrible, I'm an exploit developer & have found so many vulnerabilities its not funny, I wanna see how many vulnerabilities you could find as a developer yourself.
You should do old versions of phantom forces, that would be a fun thing to witness because of what the code contains
I got permission from the devs just the other day, so expect that next ;)
@@thederpmonster83there was this glitch where if two people crawl on each other they will fly. I am curious as to what causes that. Also why does vaulting cause so much fling
@@thederpmonster83 Can you rate the strongest battlegrounds or type souls code? i have them both if ur interested
@@kateyy.-.apparently the devs themself said the type soul code was not good at all
@@spear127Yea it doesnt run really smoothly but they make it work
miners haven single handedly was my childhood. Bereza's dev livestreams is the #1 why im doing my computer science major right now
Good luck!
get that phd brother 🙏
i can see why 3rd sac has been delayed for about 3-4 years now
I haven’t rebirthed in years. I will not rebirth until 3rd sac. It will never happen lmao.
Andrew left MH to these other devs. They are horrible.
@@Lol99410 he wasnt much better
@@Lol99410 there have been a couple things now that you have to do in order to get to 3rd sac id recommend doing those before the 3rd sac comes out, but you probably got another few years before that even happens 💀
sac 3 is fake and is a fabrication of the mind
special ed foxy
going from byteblox to this guy is like drinking from a septic tank, then traveling to mount fuji to scoop up handfuls of glistening water straight into your mouth. Excellent video, love it.
why is byteblox bad?
@@robbob9636 his stuff is just very basic
@@robbob9636 his videos are slop and he misuses features 90% of the time
@@-N-L-"unreliable remote events are completely useless"
@@zama1861"modulescripts are useless and heres why" *proceeds to explain why they are useful*
I really enjoyed this video, despite me not being a programmer, and I didn't expect you'd be one of the OG players from 2015. I must say though, this code only represents 2019 Miner's Haven. Since Talon and I started working on it, the game has gone through a few reworks, but nothing too major. Our next major update, Third Sacrifice, is a rewrite of the entire game. I saw you mentioned that every single item in the game had a script which contained their stats, which is something being changed so their stats no longer are stored in the item model. We also plan on reworking Sacrificing, Rebirthing, Research Points, the entire Cell Furnace category, implementing custom ore physics, and much more.
I also appreciate the gameplay rating you gave, but I feel the game isn't that friendly to new players unfortunately. We don't introduce many of the mechanics in the game to the player that well and for the most part it's up to them to discover it. That on top of certain features showing you items you can't even access I feel can be a bit overwhelming as well (such as the Craftsman).
I don't know if you mentioned this in your full stream or not, but I saw it mentioned in the comments. Berezaa stored gear in the Lighting tab because exploiters used to be able to spawn the gear in for themselves when they were stored somewhere else, and by storing them in Lighting it prevented them from spawning in the gear.
next update 💔
Been saying our next major update for 4 years buddy
@@cobrak1ngs and you think he's working on it 24/7? I think he has a life besides MH
@fellipemartins3203 2 developers and this is their job
@@cobrak1ngs foxy just said he isn't a programmer, do you think he comes home from work and goes "i need to work on the third sacrifice update", this isn't his job bro, it's his hobby at best.
As a person who has played miners haven since its release, the upgrade counter fix that you proposed is actually a feature and has been for some time. Some mines now have upgrade counters not equal to zero (some negative, some positive) that allow or disallow certain mines from being used on a cell furnace
Although the code for mines is extremely tedious as it forces you to manually update each one, it makes sense. Some mines have certain attributes that allow it to be used for certain things (fireproof, shields, susceptible to something, etc.) it is for this reason that I think the mines are laid out in the way that they are
I am also not a computer scientist/software engineer so I don't have much theory behind my explanations, just using my knowledge of how the game works because I have been playing it for years
some upgraders also rely on upgrade counts for effects/multi
i dont agree, he could of just added a module which checks the name of the miner to give it its rightful attributes with way less hasle
@@viproistrash theirs no attributes in 2015
@@MegaGames-df8tr didnt mean it in that way but I'm impressed
Idk much abt coding but another reason for the reflection thingy is because there are upgrades that reset upgrade count or whatnot or resets the resetter (tesla reseter, black dwarf, ultimate sacrifice)
its still a really bad solution; since you could do the same thing by setting an ores attribute back to 0 upgrade count instead of relying on the ores visual property as a check
@@known_questionmarkno you can’t do that because many items upgrade based on upgrade count and upgrade count doesn’t reset from resetters.
@@xHyperElectricaaaand you can store the upgrade count as an attribute... where is the issue, you can even add multiple attributes to store any info
@@fitmotheyap issue is: attributes did not exist back then
@@spiderweb1212 even though they didn't there is more ways than transparency
long time miners haven modder,
you didnt open the placement script. that thing is thousands of lines with temporary variable names. he uses several deprecated functions and other behaviors. also, this game was released early 2015, not 2016.
it should be like 500 lines max
putting tools in lighting is crazy
back in the day replicated storage didnt exist, but i guess he never felt like moving all the tools into replicated storage after it was added
@@boi875_RBLX i mean he probably has code all over the place expecting them to be in lighting and it would just be unnecessary pain to change something that already works
lmao virtually everyone did that xD
you’re really underrated ! im excited to see more videos in the future :)
This is a great video!
...well, almost. See, the open source version of Miner's Haven is drastically different from the current build, and especially different from anything found in whatever their test realm is. Without disclosing this, it makes it seem like the current build of MH has this exact same code, which is almost certainly not true at this point in time, and if not now then absolutely whenever the hell the Third Sacrifice releases.
Still a good video, but I think this lack of clarification on your end is an important note for me.
3rd sac will never release I think 😢
@@GameScope-nf2wx 3rd sac will release, it's just the current devs are rewriting the entire game from the ground up and all items are being rebalanced and redesigned models, the open source code will have essentially 0% used in-game once 3rd sacrifice releases
@@Zonix_Official The open source version is literally shit in organization (no offense), so yeah, they wouldn't wantt to copy anything from that again, even the simplest of the codes.
Great video! I love it! I can't wait for the next one GameReleased
🧓🏼
got jumpscared by the low view count you’re criminally underrated
I cant believe how the chat is not flooding. I would watch this live
Seeing this video talking about miner"s haven unlocked my inner childhood game
This brought so many memories from my MH days, thanks. 😊
10:05 funny thing you mention, in current MH its called Ore Tags, and cell furnaces wont process ore with an ore tag *but* some high tier upgraders remove ore tags, therefore allowing you to process upgraded ores in a cell furnace
Hope you continue to show us what you would do to better organize and/or have better code. I think it serves as great tips for those learning.
Whenever you can, try to review the code of P.W.N.E.D. Incrypt (the 1st game in the P.W.N.E.D. series) which is open source. It's a fairly old ROBLOX game that I enjoyed a lot while it was still open and had players on. There is a version that restores it from its broken form (which is also the open source one). I really would like to see you try to add one of the following:
1) A new shop item
2) A new weapon (for any of the existing classes)
3) A new skill (for any of the existing classes)
4) A new class (model doesn't matter too much)
5) A new enemy (preferably with a skill that they can use)
6) A new boss
7) A new map
I'm not the best at scripting but I love seeing videos like these. Take your time with it, no rush. :)
Bro while pwned 3 was on maintenance i played pwned 1 and 2 and wow....they are a hot mess lol. Very much a product of their time but you just spawn in and keep dying after 2 seconds. It's insane how pwned 3 is completely unrecognisable and how long pwned series has been going on for.
@@shoobzy3431 It's criminal how underrated it is. I want peeps to know more about it, but also about the old stuff which had higher chances of being memorable. I really had fun in all of the games. So sad that there are few people that know about PWNED 3.
@@Poltargot Fr bro. Before the revamp happened I remember pwned 3 regularly had like 10 players it's crazy. Roblox is such trash that people who copy and paste the same trash rng or simulator games become filthy rich meanwhile the people that make unique and creative, high effort games make basically no money and their games don't get advertised so have low player counts.
@@shoobzy3431 I'm not really playing ROBLOX anymore because of that. PWNED is great but, without people, it's not really that fun. I'm just enjoying some old flash games atm, like Shellcore Command. Pretty fun stuff!
Finally someone started critisising roblox code. This is a start of a very popular series
SummerEquinox?
@@totrp oh thanks for the suggestion he seems pritty cool
@@sarunasjadzgevicius3633 yw
Its funny that in the current version of miners haven the "upgrade counter" does exist, and it can play a huge part because some upgrades give different amount of upgrade counters, or some even give a negative amount of it, some ores even start with a negative number of upgrade counter
Still, really awesome video
I won't lie, I didn't watch the other video because I see enough terrible organization in my own games, but I actually loved this video!
Ok
I don't know how you manage to have such a powerful lisp on 'ch' and 'sh' sounds
fr, odd choice for a name when he has such a lisp
yo the editting is actual great and makes it very easy to understand what you are saying, i just think the stream vod section doesn't match it and would benefit by having editing that matches the whole video. I really like all the pictures you use for the items you discussed and I love the fonts for text since it makes it easy to read. Thanks for reviewing Miner's Haven, this has to be my favorite roblox game and i've currently gotten back into it.
Instantly subbed you'll grow man
This reminded me of that old item placement bug for pc that wasn't fixed for a whole year. Had to use an xbox controller lol. Good times I remember playing this a lot
happy 1k subs bro, keep up the good content!
Hi, "big" Miner's haven UA-camr here; and also coincidentally a software developer. MH's open source is what got me into software development and I really loved ur video because of it. For those unaware, Miner's haven's code has gotten pretty major rewrites in the years since it went open source. So the code you see is not actually what's being used in-game
Keep up the good work
some ores are allowed to go into cell furnaces after they are upgraded because the upgrader itself doesn't add any 'reflectance' i.e. upgrade count
First video i'v watched of yours! super cool and original content, first time seeing something like this, I think you should do one on booga booga, the game is open source and it was HUGE back in 2019!! continue with the amazing work!
man i remember playing this as a kid and itd be just Heathens playing in the background the whole time
Damn, got recommended this video and thought I recognized your name haha, I remember the Minecraft streams 🙏🙏🙏
were u in block game crossplay today?
you should review the current version of the normal elevator because the creator released it uncopylocked
i fw these video types so much
another game that would be really cool to look into is lumber tycoon 2. being an old game, it was also made before replicatedStorage and i think it would be very interesting to dive into how it works, because some mechanics are complex while others are simple
Redifining string is SMART. It's actually protection. Not widely used when making games (indie), especially in Roblox, but it is great practice. It's used for anti-debugging purposes.
i rly enjoyed this video for someone who doesnt code, would you do a coding tutorial with your style
is it possible to review the quite old and not very often updated game called: Lumber Tycoon 2
Yes please!!!
hl3 is actually coming out before sac3
Extremely popular in the begining yes, but now the developers lead you on saying an update is coming but delay it year after year. Then when we do get info on progress nothing is done but map building.
just found this in my recommendations and it looks good. if your thinking about it, you should code review another roblox game, mechanical ascension X. it has a lot of content compared to miner's haven and it acts somewhat the same with miner's haven as well.
Underrated channel
This guy made 2PGFT as well, the absolute classic
Welcome back to YT
Remember, if it looks bad but it works then you already succeed. That’s how model T made America proud
You should do a code review for Zeppelin Wars. They released the studio file a few months ago and the game contains many common mistakes I've seen newer devs make.
bro i find it funny when watching people code because we all do it everytime we code we say every single line we write 😂
im so confused is he faking the lisp 😭
I’m not sure but couldn’t have Berezaa added a NumberValue and make it increase when the ore gets upgraded? Would be perfect for checking if an ore got upgraded
Also amazing video! Keep up the good work!
as an actual developer and contributor to a multitude of games that are still active, i'd rate that code to be a number so far below the scale for 1-5 stars it is insane, there is zero optimisation whatsoever, it's very easily exploitable, i don't think there's anything good about this code
Parkour reborn, spaghettiest code to ever spaghetti.
not even wrong berezaa is the most innovative developer on the platform
Do you just ask for a place file or? How do you go about getting a file to work on?
Miner's Haven was open-sourced years ago, so I just searched it up on Google. If you're curious: github.com/berezaa/minershaven
As for other games, it's a mix between asking developers and/or the game being uncopylocked.
@foshess Got a lot of talent, I'll give you that. If you ever need something to do commission wise lmk. Personally I'd love someone with your capabilities
I won't lie, I didn't watch the video but you seem cool, like + subscribed
you mentioned that the game is open source, but how does that work? are all roblox games open source?
itd be crazy to see the game get like a full code overhaul but i doubt that would happen at this rate
basically what 3rd sac is going to be
3rd sac exists, but like isle 10 will come out before it, gta 6 will come out before it, and so on
@ gta 6 actually might
@@JToThE4I have private information on third sac it release this year truust
very good content!
Fire vid
I used to play a military tycoon that was exactly like this
What kind of plugin is he using at 3:58
its not a plugin
this is why i love miners
ayo?
i feel like a lot of the actual organization and nuance got lost because bereza just made the base of it open source and accessible, most people modding it wouldnt care about backend stuff.
Drillbit review next?
where did you get that lines of code plugin?
you're alive?
What plug-in do you use to read lines of code
create.roblox.com/store/asset/333507912/Lines-Of-Code?externalSource=www
have you tried food empire?
The factory must grow
Add rng = 300+ players
i would love to see your reaction to robot 64
You didn't ever mention a single time performance, while it's crucial for a game like this...
yall forgetting modulescripts didnt exist until like 2018
do BOOGA BOOGA by Soybeen next
Miner's Haven is still one of the best Tycoon games out there though, next to Lumber Tycoon 2
Honestly, 53k lines is a LOT less than I was expecting.
One day I really hope an independent team and Berezza get together and optimize everything.
from what I’ve read, the next big update (third sacrifice) is a rewrite and rework of the entire game, so I’d have to assume they’re trying to optimize it?
@@Ceds technically speaking it wouldnt be hard to optimize miners haven
@@Ceds also where did u see that?
Berezaa doesnt work on miners haven anymore
@@sebasisothe other comments probably
lumber tycoon 2 code review, there is a 2017 version out there and the code is horrible, I'm an exploit developer & have found so many vulnerabilities its not funny, I wanna see how many vulnerabilities you could find as a developer yourself.
many years later, you can still dupe shit easily which is hilarious but also sad at the same time
Miner's Haven is the best game I've played in a long time on roblox.
Anyone know what the music at 9:32 is? Been looking for it for a few months now
pokemon diamond and pearl - lake theme
this just goes to show, you dont need to be a good coder to make good games.
I'd love to see you do one for Undertale!
do Ultimate Build next, it's a complex engineering and building game
🔥video
Next do Toilet Tower Defense. There are dupe mafias that make millions off of dupe exploits that they can never permanently fix for some reason.
Miner’s Haven… Now that’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time
you should review the code for purple skittles or robot 64
foshes can you do rogue lineage file next?
oh wow
im investing into foshes
MINERS HAVEN MENTIONED
Can i get the link to the football league?
Dude u should totally check out rogue lineage!
ta ta ta ta
Could you do one on Juke's Towers of Hell?
oh my god jtoh
if you beat citadel of infinite void blindfolded he'll do it
This old mh tho?
I won't lie, I didn't watch the video but my favorite color is red
please review the robot 64 engine
The organization honestly looks like the parkour reborn organization... and thats not a good thing, jeez
dude atleast bereeza isn't a weirdo unlike the owner of parkour reborn
no way code review?
he looks like styropyro
im seriously impressed he managed to write 20k lines of code in such a horrible codebase, wow
You should do Criminality
You should do a code review on my roblox cheat fr