Great lecture, well presented and thoughtful. Coates always has an interesting analysis and speaks the truths of some of the most marginalized in American society.
And if you do you can only come to one stark conclusion, that he is is wrong! So much misinformation in one lecture from a person who hold the unwavering conviction that they are right. Unfortunately he has swayed many and nothing can change the mind of someone who’s a true believer. Even if what they believe is categorically false.
We are eliminating each other now. Excellent videos. God is in charge, so do your best., and he will do the rest. Please help working non beggars help themselves and pay it forward. I came to Mexico in 1962 at age 20. Acapulco was my favorite, and I spent 0ver 60 years visiting and living in Mexico. I moved in 2021 to Queretaro at age 79, and I love this safe, friendly and beautiful city. It is a cool temperature, and earthquakes were my deal breakers for beautiful Acapulco. It is less expensive here, and all utilities are included in my beautifully furnished apartment. rent, and also a maid and security. San Miguel is next door. I have been speaking Spanish as a second language since age 14. USA became too deadly and expensive. Enjoy everyone.
What happened to Prince Jones is an absolute travesty (I’m appalled by these stories and can understand the anger). I can understand how he’d be angry and would at the time have no sympathy for 9/11 responders (as he says he dehumanized them), because he was angry and there was not going to be any justice for Prince Jones. So it was very nice to see that his views have changed over time. This was my first exposure to him and I’m not familiar with his views yet but I would really like to know what his thoughts are on something like Booker T Washington’s ‘Up From Slavery’.
Lol West is a pioneer. But also deeply insecure for not being embraced as a foremost intellectual during the Obama age. Ditto for Tavis Smiley. This is what animates some of these "critiques" including going after Obama himself.
Affirmative action is a form of reparations but it is not received as such, therefore it might be good to replace AA with a single payment of cash to ADOS based on a genetic test that shows percent ADOS ancestry. Perhaps then we can move on.
Mr. Coates gives us all a lot of food for thought. As a middle-aged white woman I haven't been exposed to his point of view. I would guess Stock Market Guru thinks Trump has a high I.Q.
You haven't been paying attention--Russia helped him defeat Hilary and the RNC has Fox who never bothers to fact check so there's that. We can't forget Facebook but then again that's Russia paying for ads in ruples.
Bill if you for one moment think West Point "family" lives by said code, you are self deceived. :) Lying, cheating and stealing is #sadly a human "pleasure." One needs more than a "code" to live lie, cheat and steal free.
Stock market guru is conveniently accepting a false narrative Trump has not created wealth for anyone but those who already possessed it Trump is and has been a racist Wealth creation is generational, institutional, and systemic
Who the hell let this guy speak at west point? A man who calls the first responders of 9/11 "menaces of nature" and uses a questionable police shooting of a friend in Prince George County to create a damning generalization of all law enforcement and first responder personnel regardless of good done and sacrifices made by these people.
The cognitive dissonance in this guy is amazing. He grew up terrified of other black people but somehow found a way to place the responsibility onto white people. Instead of telling the whole world that black people can't succeed unless white people allow it he should hold himself up as an example of what can happen when you can educate yourself, work hard, and avoid the gangs and drugs in the inner-city. I truly believe he cares about the plight of black Americans but until he assigns them some agency and responsibility for the outcome of their lives he's just complaining without offering any real world solutions.
Had great as comment on this one, I pressed delete but I typed it sent it, hahaha then it popped up twice I deleted the one below then typed lil bit extra the one that was there then ran over to doll. And you know typed follow up to her was here, I came back where my comment went. U got another?! Nah I ain’t got it, maybe maybe I return and say something as profound I hahahaha hahahah all good home skillet
Majority of those who live in certain states where slaves. Does this mean that some and or many who where slaves. Because of mix breeding, become free? Yes even though they where of African descent and European descent. They look European and became free?
His comment trying to justify his hatred of police officers and firefighters borders on obscene. Most of us are rational enough not to judge an entire group by the actions of a few. Most other people absolutely would not feel the same way. Using his own logic it would be just for me to hate all black people because I was beat and robbed by one as a teenager
russell d-yeah its great to assign a person agency an hold him responsible for his actions, but the actions must be judges according to that person condition and the condition of his race...that the country has to take responsibility for... and you cant sit there and pretend you dont see or acknowledge after you have done the most horrific things to a people for centuries, that as the victim, the fault still remains on the victims.....lets see you assign some agency and responsibility to yourself when you are judged for things you had little or no control over.... white people can always, even in the middle of all that energy and enlightenment, find a way to extricate themselves from culpability and more importantly, personal liability.....
1822 black slaves were given a country called Liberia, many went, many stayed in the USA. You were given m I ney, you enforce US Jim Crow laws over the indigenous pop. & became Lords & after 200 years ex-slaves destroyed the country which is now one of the many failed basket cases of Africa. long live Kawanda!....
Why would we leave a country we built maybe all you red people should go back to the European mountains you barberiac cavemen Came down From the world was a better place when we ruled it...oh and Black Americans aren't from Africa were Hebrew your khazarian Edomite cousins in Israel stole are identity.
Putting aside the problem with all these spending schemes is there is no wealth left to pay for them. In 2015 Lawrence kotlikoff calculated the total. unfunded liabilities of the US government & found them to be over 200 trillion $. You could raise taxes to 100% confiscation of everyone’s income from bill Gates down to the kid working at McDonald’s even including all the welfare recipients & you can’t fund that. Yes the government can always just create money but what will the “money” be worth. You better hope you never get reparations because if you do you will be lucky to by a chiclet with. The laws of arithmetic don’t give a dam what you think you’re entitled to.
@@MrTimeless101 kotlikoff’s numbers apply to all spending but even if we eliminated all foreign & defense spending it would only buy time & not much time
My problem with here is that the American Civil War was not over slavery. Slavery was the cause of secession. The Southern States, or the majority of them, seceded because they felt that their "peculiar institution" was under threat by the election of Lincoln and the Republicans. The war, itself, was over Secession. Had Lincoln let the South secede from the Union, there would have been no war.
So what was the reason they seceded? You are just covering up in semantics. They seceded because Lincoln and the Republicans ran on ending slavery and the Southerners decided to rather secede than be under US law of no slavery. Look at the secession reason documents and slavery maintenance was central.
@@nobad6134 Lincoln did not "run on ending slavery." The South did secede over fears of ending slavery. It does not matter. The War was over secession and it resulted in the consolidation of power in the more centralizedvfederal government. Slavery was/is a great evil. Yet, it was nothing new and had existed as a part of civilization for thousands of years in Europe, Asia, Africa and the Americas. The only reason that slavery came to be viewed as an evil was because of the added racial element that came to characterize slavery in the Americas. Had slavery remained more universal in character, it would more than likely still exist as a legally sanctioned, if morally reprehensible entity. Indeed, slavery does exist in a more limited form as taxation. You owe a portion of the results of your labors to the State. To that degree to which you are taxed, you are enslaved. If you do not believe me, refuse to pay your taxes. At that point, you become a wholly owned subsidiary of the State. Slavery did not truly end, it simply changed its face and you believe the fiction that you are told of freedom.
@@davidkaelin2847 Lincoln and the Republicans were formed against slavery. Lincoln sure did run against allowing any further expansion of slavery to the North which the Southerners detested and then decided to secede. And you are making up semantics again to say it was over secession. Why were they seceding? If Lincoln came in and said I will allow expansion of slavery and encourage more slavery, they wouldn't have seceded. You are just covering up in word games. They seceded because they wanted to preserve slavery. And I don't care if slavery existed elsewhere in the Americas or in history. The issue is it right or wrong? And when it comes to what is moral particularly in a constitutional republic formed off laws of individual liberty the government protects, then slavery was completely incompatible. Those slaveholders all deserved to be brutally killed and their houses destroyed because they were the worst kind of criminals oppressing with violence and bondage another man. They are no better than rapists, murderers and thieves. In fact they routinely raped, murdered and stole the labour of their slaves. The Founding fathers wrote a constitution saying all men are born free and in fact was against slavery, except for the hypocrisy of not seeing black Africans as worthy of freedom, seeing them as sub-human and not prepared for constitutional rights. A slaveholder has no claim on morality. Slavery is completely antithetical to natural law from God and basic morality, decency. So I don't care why Lincoln initially decided to respond to the South Secession with war (preventing expansion of slavery, preserving the Union or whatever), the fact remains the slaveholders all deserved to die because they were bandits committing capital crimes on fellow man. Also the trans-atlantic slave trade was on a different level than any other slavery throughout human history. Not only was it so different on a mass scale- tens of millions transported and millions died on the Middle Passage across the Atlantic alone, its length of time (hundreds of years with many generations of slave families born into ownership by a slave holder family) and don't forget it was the first time of CHATTEL SLAVERY !. Slavery in the past had always been you are confined to a given area in a country like a peasant or serf and remit most of fruits of your labour to a Lord or a Duke or some other noble man above you. Your labour might be owned by that person but you were not bought and sold like a chattel and nor were your children also owned in the same way. This form of serfdom was obviously also terrible but chattel slavery in the Americas involved transporting tens of millions across the Ocean to a continent completely different from their genetic adaptation to the climate, away from all family and ancestral ties, culture, language etc. Plus trans-atlantic slave trade was incredibly meticulous and bureaucratic- it fueled the Industrial Revolution and the need for cotton. Trans-atlantic slave trade was incredibly professionalized in a way past slavery was not. You had a vast network and supply chain of ship builders, financiers, overseas, research and development going into trans-atlantic slavery. Trans-atlantic slavery was the first Big Corporation multinational form of slavery. The first globalized network of slavery with financiers and ship builders in Liverpool, England funding expeditions to West Africa to sell slaves in the Americas and then bring back profits and cotton raw materials to use in the industries of Manchester,England to fuel the Industrial Revolution in Britain. It was incredibly sophisticated and every slave was treated like a little bean or unit of production on a ledger. It was like Star Bucks bean counting technology and data analytics being used to control other human beings. It was about money and profit first before anything about social control or even racism. Not saying racism and social control didn't play a big role but trans-atlantic slave trade was big business, efficiency and economies of scale first and foremost. Blacks were a convenient foil because of the racist tropes around blacks being exotic and from Africa but that was just good product branding. If they had a better product they would have sold that instead of black slaves. To compare slavery as taxation is completely daft. You get to vote on how your tax dollars are spent. Slaves have no vote in how their labour is used. You get whipped if you disagree. And taxation is just a portion of your annual labour. Being a slave means your entire labour is your Master's property and in fact your Master doesn't just take your economic production, your Master dictates where you can live, who you can marry, when you can sleep, eat or drink. Your Master can even kill you if you are slave and it wouldn't be a crime. You are his property to do whatever like a bag of wheat. And you are only taxed in so far as you engage in economic activity defined as taxable under the commonly democratically voted upon law. If you choose to be unemployed, you are free and not forced to work or pay taxes. In fact 47 percent of Americans don't pay any federal income taxes as their jobs don't even raise enough value to be taxable. Compare that to a slave who is forced to work every day of the week from dusk till dawn without any say. Your children can be seized from you and your Master can carry out experiments on you like you are a rodent. You have a choice to emigrate if you don't like a country's legal system. Slavery allows no emigration. You can't even leave your Master's compound without a paper of instructions.
@@davidkaelin2847 Idiot I wrote that myself afresh just now. If you not willing to engage in a proper debate and resort to ad hominems, then get the fuck out.
@@2greedy573 we red skin, as in native americans, say if reparations are given then we want our land back. All have got to go back except blacks, native americans, mexicans, and central americans....the latter 2 groups till DNA advances enough in 5 yrs-10 yrs to know which specific tribe their indian blood comes from (some may be apache). Blacks who stay and who get reparations will have to pay rent to the neaby native tribe.
daniel ross- i really hate o call you a dope, on such a prestigious comment section coming from west point..but youre a dope... african americans that are rich, are rich in spite of the system, not because of it....damn youre dumb! sorry west point...thats what his entire lecture was about...
The speech is very bias and deceitful. Between 1525 and 1866, in the entire history of the slave trade to the New World, according to the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database, 12.5 million Africans were shipped to the New World. 10.7 million survived the dreaded Middle Passage, disembarking in North America, the Caribbean and South America. And how many of these 10.7 million Africans were shipped directly to North America? Only about 388,000. That’s right: a tiny percentage. Henry Louis Gates, Jr. It’s a lie to state that in 1860, 14 million blacks where enslaved in the USA. Slavery was abolished in the north of the USA including Vermouth, Illinois, New York, etc long before the Civil War, therefore the USA was not a slave country as stated. Attributing the 750 thousand deaths to white supremacy is totally misleading because half of those fighting and died were white solders on the Union side fighting against slavery. . In Latin America all blacks were enslaved also but nobody is seeking anything at all. Slavery was abolished by the whites, blacks had no possibility of abolishing their enslavement.The enslaved of The Amistad...were defended by whites. Get your story straight, stop fooling the people.
@Marcus Mitchell No, he's just highlighting a point of fact. You created a whole slavery/racism/bigotry narrative that doesn't apply to Anthony's comment.
Anthony McLean - It must be fun for you to twist history instead of having the courage to look it head on. First having misspoken is not a lie. He misspoke that a county in Virginia was a country. We all know that wasn't correct but that doesn't make it a lie when he clearly misspoke. That's the same with saying 14 million. While a lot of what you said I'm just not going justify with a reply, the main thing I will comment on is your statement of 750 thousand and white supremacy. Here you don't seem to understand that there didn't need to have been a civil war at all. Britain solved it's slavery issue 30 years earlier purely by referendum with one drop of blood shed. To have to fight for white supremacy OR against it still is clearly attributable to white supremacy. There would not been deaths at all if white supremacy had not existed. Hopefully that wasn't too logical for you.
@@Darling137 slavery has up until very recently been part of the human condition since the beginning of time. This is especially true in Africa where slavery persists even now. There is a huge slave trade between sub Saharan Africa & the Middle East even today including the worst kind of slavery child sex slavery. There was slavery in Latin America. Why do you think many Brazilians are black. Even white Americans were taken as slaves by the Barbary pirates. Nobody’s talking about reparations for that.
Great lecture, well presented and thoughtful. Coates always has an interesting analysis and speaks the truths of some of the most marginalized in American society.
He makes you think,explore and read....... that cannot be bad.
Hope it has made you explore the work of Glenn Loury, John McWhorter, and Coleman Hughes.
And if you do you can only come to one stark conclusion, that he is is wrong! So much misinformation in one lecture from a person who hold the unwavering conviction that they are right. Unfortunately he has swayed many and nothing can change the mind of someone who’s a true believer. Even if what they believe is categorically false.
@@garbonomicsand what exactly did he say that was false? Please share the top 3 misinformed statements that were made. Thanks
The introduction by the West Point history professor is brilliant as well
We are eliminating each other now.
Excellent videos.
God is in charge, so do your best., and he will do the rest.
Please help working non beggars help themselves and pay it forward.
I came to Mexico in 1962 at age 20. Acapulco was my favorite, and I spent 0ver 60 years visiting and living in Mexico. I moved in 2021 to Queretaro at age 79, and I love this safe, friendly and beautiful city. It is a cool temperature, and earthquakes were my deal breakers for beautiful Acapulco. It is less expensive here, and all utilities are included in my beautifully furnished apartment. rent, and also a maid and security. San Miguel is next door. I have been speaking Spanish as a second language since age 14.
USA became too deadly and expensive. Enjoy everyone.
Love this dude. Ta-Nehisi Coates the man.
I’ve watched this speed at least ten times. Shout out to Col Harper, I met him on a plane traveling to Jackson, Ms to give a speech.
What a great talk from my point of view. This wasn't the typical political talk or white shaming. This was a talk about people of all sorts.
What happened to Prince Jones is an absolute travesty (I’m appalled by these stories and can understand the anger). I can understand how he’d be angry and would at the time have no sympathy for 9/11 responders (as he says he dehumanized them), because he was angry and there was not going to be any justice for Prince Jones. So it was very nice to see that his views have changed over time. This was my first exposure to him and I’m not familiar with his views yet but I would really like to know what his thoughts are on something like Booker T Washington’s ‘Up From Slavery’.
They couldnt take it.....Great lecture...you can actually feel the beautiful uncomfortability
What a privilege to hear this lecture ... and at West Point. There is hope...
Finally a Ta Nehisi Coates video where the comments haven’t been turned off 😂
Excellent Program
Of course he writes super-hero genre! Good god, he is thus endowed.
BTW, dying, Grant wrote 9000 words of said memoir, that did not require editing or revision in one sitting.
I was a little disappointed that he didn't really say much about reparations.
Wonderful lecture though!
Look up Cornel West’s criticism of this guy, really good
Lol West is a pioneer. But also deeply insecure for not being embraced as a foremost intellectual during the Obama age. Ditto for Tavis Smiley. This is what animates some of these "critiques" including going after Obama himself.
We aunt’s get no reporashuns!
When you began to ask questions about race… look for the shadow of racism ✊🏿✊🏾✊🏽✊🏼
Affirmative action is a form of reparations but it is not received as such, therefore it might be good to replace AA with a single payment of cash to ADOS based on a genetic test that shows percent ADOS ancestry. Perhaps then we can move on.
Or maybe we should just move on and stop enabling perpetual victimhood.
@@bscottb8 I agree but it can only happen once the victimizer is made to pay the debt that is owed.
West Point's auditorium looks like an old basement. The lectern looks like it was put together by a ninth grade shop class.
Psalms 83
157 days, 12 hrs., 22 mins to 400 yrs. Gen.15:12-14
I would have no problem with reparations if the African tribes and nations who sold slaves to Europeans, Spain and Portugal funded the majority of it.
Mr. Coates gives us all a lot of food for thought. As a middle-aged white woman I haven't been exposed to his point of view.
I would guess Stock Market Guru thinks Trump has a high I.Q.
He defeated the deep-state mainstream media DNC machine, so he must have some smarts!
"All of America should live by West Points code of Honor.
You haven't been paying attention--Russia helped him defeat Hilary and the RNC has Fox who never bothers to fact check so there's that. We can't forget Facebook but then again that's Russia paying for ads in ruples.
Bill if you for one moment think West Point "family" lives by said code, you are self deceived. :) Lying, cheating and stealing is #sadly a human "pleasure." One needs more than a "code" to live lie, cheat and steal free.
Stock market guru is conveniently accepting a false narrative
Trump has not created wealth for anyone but those who already possessed it
Trump is and has been a racist
Wealth creation is generational, institutional, and systemic
Who the hell let this guy speak at west point? A man who calls the first responders of 9/11 "menaces of nature" and uses a questionable police shooting of a friend in Prince George County to create a damning generalization of all law enforcement and first responder personnel regardless of good done and sacrifices made by these people.
The cognitive dissonance in this guy is amazing. He grew up terrified of other black people but somehow found a way to place the responsibility onto white people. Instead of telling the whole world that black people can't succeed unless white people allow it he should hold himself up as an example of what can happen when you can educate yourself, work hard, and avoid the gangs and drugs in the inner-city. I truly believe he cares about the plight of black Americans but until he assigns them some agency and responsibility for the outcome of their lives he's just complaining without offering any real world solutions.
He’s disingenuous
I NEVER SOLD DRUGS yet I was labeled and imprisoned...
Yeah yeah that’s what they all say
You got reparations brotha time to move on
he got reparations?
Love that name "stock market guru"
Totally insane
Coates timing is just perfect! Sure to get the Orange Menace re-elected!!
he is tall
Had great as comment on this one, I pressed delete but I typed it sent it, hahaha then it popped up twice I deleted the one below then typed lil bit extra the one that was there then ran over to doll. And you know typed follow up to her was here, I came back where my comment went. U got another?! Nah I ain’t got it, maybe maybe I return and say something as profound I hahahaha hahahah all good home skillet
#1963 #SWEETHOMEALABAMA
Majority of those who live in certain states where slaves. Does this mean that some and or many who where slaves. Because of mix breeding, become free? Yes even though they where of African descent and European descent. They look European and became free?
Race is another of those societal myths and lies that we (society) tell ourselves.
His comment trying to justify his hatred of police officers and firefighters borders on obscene. Most of us are rational enough not to judge an entire group by the actions of a few. Most other people absolutely would not feel the same way. Using his own logic it would be just for me to hate all black people because I was beat and robbed by one as a teenager
Keep separating us King Beef ...that’s the solution!!
russell d-yeah its great to assign a person agency an hold him responsible for his actions, but the actions must be judges according to that person condition and the condition of his race...that the country has to take responsibility for...
and you cant sit there and pretend you dont see or acknowledge after you have done the most horrific things to a people for centuries, that as the victim, the fault still remains on the victims.....lets see you assign some agency and responsibility to yourself when you are judged for things you had little or no control over....
white people can always, even in the middle of all that energy and enlightenment, find a way to extricate themselves from culpability and more importantly, personal liability.....
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Blacks related to the chieftains and warlords who sold their own people to the European slave traders get reparations? (No replies read)
yeah, the European slave traders.
Woke West Point. We are in trouble
1822 black slaves were given a country called Liberia, many went, many stayed in the USA. You were given m I ney, you enforce US Jim Crow laws
over the indigenous pop. & became Lords & after 200 years ex-slaves destroyed the country which is now one of the many failed basket cases of Africa.
long live Kawanda!....
Why would we leave a country we built maybe all you red people should go back to the European mountains you barberiac cavemen
Came down From the world was a better place when we ruled it...oh and Black Americans aren't from Africa were Hebrew your khazarian
Edomite cousins in Israel stole are identity.
thats some good gibberish.
Putting aside the problem with all these spending schemes is there is no wealth left to pay for them. In 2015 Lawrence kotlikoff calculated the total. unfunded liabilities of the US government & found them to be over 200 trillion $. You could raise taxes to 100% confiscation of everyone’s income from bill Gates down to the kid working at McDonald’s even including all the welfare recipients & you can’t fund that. Yes the government can always just create money but what will the “money” be worth. You better hope you never get reparations because if you do you will be lucky to by a chiclet with. The laws of arithmetic don’t give a dam what you think you’re entitled to.
How come the laws of arithmetic don't apply to the defense budget, the intelligence budget, or the budget for never ending wars all over the world?
@@MrTimeless101 kotlikoff’s numbers apply to all spending but even if we eliminated all foreign & defense spending it would only buy time & not much time
My problem with here is that the American Civil War was not over slavery.
Slavery was the cause of secession. The Southern States, or the majority of them, seceded because they felt that their "peculiar institution" was under threat by the election of Lincoln and the Republicans.
The war, itself, was over Secession.
Had Lincoln let the South secede from the Union, there would have been no war.
So what was the reason they seceded? You are just covering up in semantics. They seceded because Lincoln and the Republicans ran on ending slavery and the Southerners decided to rather secede than be under US law of no slavery. Look at the secession reason documents and slavery maintenance was central.
@@nobad6134 Lincoln did not "run on ending slavery."
The South did secede over fears of ending slavery.
It does not matter. The War was over secession and it resulted in the consolidation of power in the more centralizedvfederal government.
Slavery was/is a great evil. Yet, it was nothing new and had existed as a part of civilization for thousands of years in Europe, Asia, Africa and the Americas.
The only reason that slavery came to be viewed as an evil was because of the added racial element that came to characterize slavery in the Americas.
Had slavery remained more universal in character, it would more than likely still exist as a legally sanctioned, if morally reprehensible entity.
Indeed, slavery does exist in a more limited form as taxation.
You owe a portion of the results of your labors to the State. To that degree to which you are taxed, you are enslaved.
If you do not believe me, refuse to pay your taxes. At that point, you become a wholly owned subsidiary of the State.
Slavery did not truly end, it simply changed its face and you believe the fiction that you are told of freedom.
@@davidkaelin2847 Lincoln and the Republicans were formed against slavery. Lincoln sure did run against allowing any further expansion of slavery to the North which the Southerners detested and then decided to secede.
And you are making up semantics again to say it was over secession. Why were they seceding? If Lincoln came in and said I will allow expansion of slavery and encourage more slavery, they wouldn't have seceded. You are just covering up in word games. They seceded because they wanted to preserve slavery.
And I don't care if slavery existed elsewhere in the Americas or in history. The issue is it right or wrong? And when it comes to what is moral particularly in a constitutional republic formed off laws of individual liberty the government protects, then slavery was completely incompatible. Those slaveholders all deserved to be brutally killed and their houses destroyed because they were the worst kind of criminals oppressing with violence and bondage another man. They are no better than rapists, murderers and thieves. In fact they routinely raped, murdered and stole the labour of their slaves. The Founding fathers wrote a constitution saying all men are born free and in fact was against slavery, except for the hypocrisy of not seeing black Africans as worthy of freedom, seeing them as sub-human and not prepared for constitutional rights. A slaveholder has no claim on morality. Slavery is completely antithetical to natural law from God and basic morality, decency. So I don't care why Lincoln initially decided to respond to the South Secession with war (preventing expansion of slavery, preserving the Union or whatever), the fact remains the slaveholders all deserved to die because they were bandits committing capital crimes on fellow man.
Also the trans-atlantic slave trade was on a different level than any other slavery throughout human history. Not only was it so different on a mass scale- tens of millions transported and millions died on the Middle Passage across the Atlantic alone, its length of time (hundreds of years with many generations of slave families born into ownership by a slave holder family) and don't forget it was the first time of CHATTEL SLAVERY !. Slavery in the past had always been you are confined to a given area in a country like a peasant or serf and remit most of fruits of your labour to a Lord or a Duke or some other noble man above you. Your labour might be owned by that person but you were not bought and sold like a chattel and nor were your children also owned in the same way. This form of serfdom was obviously also terrible but chattel slavery in the Americas involved transporting tens of millions across the Ocean to a continent completely different from their genetic adaptation to the climate, away from all family and ancestral ties, culture, language etc. Plus trans-atlantic slave trade was incredibly meticulous and bureaucratic- it fueled the Industrial Revolution and the need for cotton. Trans-atlantic slave trade was incredibly professionalized in a way past slavery was not. You had a vast network and supply chain of ship builders, financiers, overseas, research and development going into trans-atlantic slavery. Trans-atlantic slavery was the first Big Corporation multinational form of slavery. The first globalized network of slavery with financiers and ship builders in Liverpool, England funding expeditions to West Africa to sell slaves in the Americas and then bring back profits and cotton raw materials to use in the industries of Manchester,England to fuel the Industrial Revolution in Britain. It was incredibly sophisticated and every slave was treated like a little bean or unit of production on a ledger. It was like Star Bucks bean counting technology and data analytics being used to control other human beings. It was about money and profit first before anything about social control or even racism. Not saying racism and social control didn't play a big role but trans-atlantic slave trade was big business, efficiency and economies of scale first and foremost. Blacks were a convenient foil because of the racist tropes around blacks being exotic and from Africa but that was just good product branding. If they had a better product they would have sold that instead of black slaves.
To compare slavery as taxation is completely daft. You get to vote on how your tax dollars are spent. Slaves have no vote in how their labour is used. You get whipped if you disagree. And taxation is just a portion of your annual labour. Being a slave means your entire labour is your Master's property and in fact your Master doesn't just take your economic production, your Master dictates where you can live, who you can marry, when you can sleep, eat or drink. Your Master can even kill you if you are slave and it wouldn't be a crime. You are his property to do whatever like a bag of wheat. And you are only taxed in so far as you engage in economic activity defined as taxable under the commonly democratically voted upon law. If you choose to be unemployed, you are free and not forced to work or pay taxes. In fact 47 percent of Americans don't pay any federal income taxes as their jobs don't even raise enough value to be taxable. Compare that to a slave who is forced to work every day of the week from dusk till dawn without any say. Your children can be seized from you and your Master can carry out experiments on you like you are a rodent. You have a choice to emigrate if you don't like a country's legal system. Slavery allows no emigration. You can't even leave your Master's compound without a paper of instructions.
Nice meaningless cut and paste.
@@davidkaelin2847 Idiot I wrote that myself afresh just now. If you not willing to engage in a proper debate and resort to ad hominems, then get the fuck out.
some of the riches people on earth are African Americans . Should poor people who are not black work to pay them ?
@@2greedy573 we red skin, as in native americans, say if reparations are given then we want our land back. All have got to go back except blacks, native americans, mexicans, and central americans....the latter 2 groups till DNA advances enough in 5 yrs-10 yrs to know which specific tribe their indian blood comes from (some may be apache). Blacks who stay and who get reparations will have to pay rent to the neaby native tribe.
@@2greedy573 You answered your own question about any more dumb ass questions.
@@2greedy573 Oh, was your reply an attempt to clear up misunderstanding? Wait, do the veins show fourth? Or fifth?
Your not all there
daniel ross- i really hate o call you a dope, on such a prestigious comment section coming from west point..but youre a dope...
african americans that are rich, are rich in spite of the system, not because of it....damn youre dumb! sorry west point...thats what his entire lecture was about...
The speech is very bias and deceitful.
Between 1525 and 1866, in the entire history of the slave trade to the New World, according to the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database, 12.5 million Africans were shipped to the New World. 10.7 million survived the dreaded Middle Passage, disembarking in North America, the Caribbean and South America. And how many of these 10.7 million Africans were shipped directly to North America? Only about 388,000. That’s right: a tiny percentage. Henry Louis Gates, Jr.
It’s a lie to state that in 1860, 14 million blacks where enslaved in the USA.
Slavery was abolished in the north of the USA including Vermouth, Illinois, New York, etc long before the Civil War, therefore the USA was not a slave country as stated.
Attributing the 750 thousand deaths to white supremacy is totally misleading because half of those fighting and died were white solders on the Union side fighting against slavery. .
In Latin America all blacks were enslaved also but nobody is seeking anything at all.
Slavery was abolished by the whites, blacks had no possibility of abolishing their enslavement.The enslaved of The Amistad...were defended by whites. Get your story straight, stop fooling the people.
@Marcus Mitchell No, he's just highlighting a point of fact. You created a whole slavery/racism/bigotry narrative that doesn't apply to Anthony's comment.
Anthony McLean - It must be fun for you to twist history instead of having the courage to look it head on. First having misspoken is not a lie. He misspoke that a county in Virginia was a country. We all know that wasn't correct but that doesn't make it a lie when he clearly misspoke. That's the same with saying 14 million. While a lot of what you said I'm just not going justify with a reply, the main thing I will comment on is your statement of 750 thousand and white supremacy. Here you don't seem to understand that there didn't need to have been a civil war at all. Britain solved it's slavery issue 30 years earlier purely by referendum with one drop of blood shed. To have to fight for white supremacy OR against it still is clearly attributable to white supremacy. There would not been deaths at all if white supremacy had not existed. Hopefully that wasn't too logical for you.
@@Darling137 slavery has up until very recently been part of the human condition since the beginning of time. This is especially true in Africa where slavery persists even now. There is a huge slave trade between sub Saharan Africa & the Middle East even today including the worst kind of slavery child sex slavery. There was slavery in Latin America. Why do you think many Brazilians are black. Even white Americans were taken as slaves by the Barbary pirates. Nobody’s talking about reparations for that.
@@charlescasaburi5333 I agree 100%, hence my comment.
Vermouth 🤣🤣 what state is that. I don't even know where to start with this ahistorical nonsense.
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