London Underground Northern Line Driver's eye view
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- This Has Been a dream of mine for Many Years Thank you to The Driver and Northern Line management team for this opportunity Thank You & The development of This video was really intense a lot of content was cut that did not make it into the final version but I'm happy with the way it ended out Maybe one day I do a development video.
Part one Edgware-Morden via Bank
Part 2 Battersea Power Station-High Barnet via Charing Cross & Mill Hill East
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It's truly remarkable that, despite having the headlights on, the tunnels continue to envelop the surroundings in almost complete darkness. One can only imagine how fatiguing it must be for an engineer or driver to navigate the repetitive transition from these extremely dark tunnels to the brightly lit stations or outdoor areas, potentially straining their eyes in the process.
Like most jobs. Thankfully they earn good money
@@Leo-gt1bx How much do they earn?
I think you would be able to see far more with naked eye. The go pros are notoriously bad in low light
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It won't be that dark. The camera is most likely struggling with the low light so its looking darker than it actually is.
It's great to see the driver's eye view (even when it is dark) interspersed with the station shots. Great editing and well done to all who took part..
Last night I just couldn't sleep and almost accidentally came across to this video and watched it all. Amazing job indeed and exactly what I needed. Sweet memories about London which I miss so much. Thanks for sharing.
Those are the darkest subway tunnels I have ever seen.
No headlights on the coaches?
No hazard lights
Just acts of faith
Underground tunnels*
Yes it is dark, it’s daylight robbery 😂
From wikipedia:
In the 1850s, Burnt Oak referred to no more than a field on the eastern side of the Edgware Road (Watling Street). By the 1860s plans were in place to build three residential streets: North Street, East Street, and South Street. The area was generally known as Red Hill until the opening of Burnt Oak tube station on the Northern line of the London Underground on 27 October 1924. It was on farmland to the south-east of the community in Edgware Road, that London Transport constructed a new road, Watling Avenue, and London County Council built the Watling Estate housing estate. In September 1931 Jack Cohen opened his first Tesco store at 54 Watling Avenue, Burnt Oak.
Great info. Thanks.
Lovely bit of history
What a sterling effort editing and filming all the individual stations. Fantastic production!
Thank you
@@BenTaylor. Yo!
@@BenTaylor. I agree , but one small tip would be to make it clearer the name of the station. Not everyone watching knows the line intimately. The early stops featured the stations name easily , some of the others didn’t.
@@BenTaylor. I can you tell the story of the heroic Kosovo Gauls and the evil Serbia Romans, Ben.
@@3chords490 Another small tip would be some Windolene and a rag for the window the camera is mounted on and looking through. You can barely see anything through all the crud.
wow 77 years and I finally get to see what it is really like to exit the tunnel Highgate to East Finchley....Born 1946 and raised in East Finchley I even as kid frequently travelled on the tube into London...be it a visit to the sights with parents or to see a film or show....remember being told way back in the 50s that the tunnel from East Finchley to |Morden in Surrey was the longest in the world...so always felt special travelling on that line...remember playing in the cherry Tree wood next to the line and watching with facination the train dissapearing into the tunnel from East Finchley station....left home in 1965 to join the RAF and weekends at home I still remember travelling exiting through that tunnel to East Finchley and leaving to go back to camp......and after 14 months coming home on leave from a overseas posting and seeing the light as we left the tunnel..and knowing back home again......when younger used to get into the front carridge just to peep through the small glass window on the cab door to see what it was like to come into the climb to Finchley station....last travelled on that line in 1969 when last left home for good to get married by which time could drive so never used the East Finchley route again......but to see it on you tube and as I said in the beginning to see what it really looks like to come out the tunnel is amazing....sad I know.....but still amazing....or as they say ..everything comes to those who wait...even if it has taken 77 years!!
I grew up in NYC riding the Subway. The tunnels (compared to London) are VERY BRIGHTLY lit. We moved to the UK for three years when I was 10-13 years old. When I first rode the London Underground in the Summer of 1984, I remember VERY CLEARLY asking my Father: "Dad, why are the tunnels SO DARK here, is it because of the Blitz?" 😂 Funny thing is: I was only partially right.
The London Underground's running tunnels in between stations are not lit (except by the headlights of each individual train), BUT, in the event of an emergency or a power failure within the system, tunnel lights are turned on via their own circuit on an emergency generator.
I would be way too afraid to ride the NYC subway.
@@laurastuart3814 It's the most effective way of getting around NYC though. Driving in NYC isn't a sane thing to do regularly. I'd do it when I was going out of town, but for regular daily commuting, the Subway was just fine.
@@benschaeffer8102 From what I've heard, the NYC subway is efficient with 24h service, but also really dirty. Is that true?
Great video and very well put together, many thanks.
I well remember the island platforms on the city branch in the 1960s. At least the remaining two Clapham stations are well lit nowadays, but I recall Angel in particular was a horrible dingy place. The lighting was grimy 40W bulbs (or so they seemed) in those glass hexagonal shades at the apex of the tunnel, and without any safety lines painted at the edges where platform ended and track began seemed a bit of a mystery. In the rush hour you got the feeling that if just one or two more people arrived on the platform you'd all fall on to the track.
This video is INCREDIBLE. It’s a real immersive experience, so thanks for sharing it with us. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
A great video. Too bad the tunnel wasn't lit better. I would have liked to have seen the track ahead and the diverge and merge points. Still, a great video. Thanks for posting.
To achieve that would you like the driver to bring along a big studio light with him to work so that he can shine it upon the track? You are suggesting we should be able to see what's going on in complete darkness? The video depicts exactly what the driver sees in those tunnels so that's the reality of the job.
@@paulec2634 you don't need massive lights, just a camera with an aperture big enough to capture what little light comes off the train's headlights
@@paulec2634 so, the drivers of tube trains drive in almost total darkness?
I have to confess I thought they had a better view of things.
You might have swung the camera round to ientify each station ...
De London Underground. Het materieel met het herkenbare speciale profiel. Vierrailsysteem bijzonder.
Great video for us underground nerds!
Growing up in New York, I would cut school just to ride the trains. They were so full of mystery. Each new station was a small, subterranean world, ready to be discovered. The only system in the world that can compare to the MTA is the London Underground. It's just as old, just as big and, frankly, much better maintained. I was staying at an Air BnB just a few weeks ago in Golders Green and my station was the lovely Brent Cross. I was only there for a week but it was home base and I have a strange sense of homesickness for it. Good job. I'm still chanting: "See it! Say it! Sorted!"
Thank you for this brilliant video, and well done. I have enjoyed two long holiday trips to the UK ( London) and based myself and family at Russell Square and Bloomsbury Square, we used the London Under ground rail network almost every day, it is a wonderful transport system. No matter where we wanted to go this rail network took us there and almost to the door where we wanted to visit. I was amazed how deep under ground Russell square station was. Thank you again. 👍 Au
This is among the best carbides I’ve ever seen. Outstanding work.
I remember going on the tube at Colindale in the 1950s when the ticket hall was virtually a shed. The entrance was originally rather palatial and identical to Hendon and Brent but it was destroyed by bombing when the Germans attacked the adjacent Hendon airfield.
I was a student in London from 1988 to 1992. I sometimes took trains from Edgware to the city if I wanted a leisurely ride (rather than the faster Jubilee line). I believe at that time the Northern Line trains were not this color. Anyway thanks for such a nostalgic video
Well done Ben, and thanks for posting it. A fascinating video; I often fancied being a Tube Driver, but I stayed in Signalling on BR.
After watching this I had to look at a map of London and the Underground, as it reminded me of the great times we have spent in London.
as a young boy in the early 60s the london underground fascinated me the way it was all planned out is truly an amazing fete of engineering and design
I've ridden this line so many times, nice to see it from my living room, thanks :)
I also road this line a few times after falling asleep while heading for High Barnet.
@@TheByard Bit tricky if you find yourself in Edgeware :) The Kennington turn around is called the poop loop. Don't want to tell you why :) My last 8 years before retirement I spent as third line Legacy Support for the TFL estate. It was like riding a Rolls Royce when comparing it to Commercial work ! They are fantastic there ! I loved every minute of it. There is everyone working on the Underground, accountants, professional musicians (1 from a Jazz Band in New York !), IT people of all sorts, just about every type of previous work experience !
One of my earlier jobs was surveying around Euston Station ready for the Victoria Line, we worked night shifts as the roads were quiter. Though there was the ladies of night, and the cider drinkers who camped in the garden near the old arch. One asked what the guys was looking at through the theodolite, I showed her a spot on the ground, she did no more than squat down and lift her kilt. The surveyor needed a stiff coffee after that. @@tonygriffiths2485
I love the station stops, as there are some seriously Fit London Lads, tall handsome and gorgeous-looking London men (I’m such a wild Irish gay tart lol) - I’d have a whale of time flirting (shamelessly) with them all lol 🇮🇪☘️🇬🇧😍😍😍
This is pure gold in so many ways! Thanks 😊
You do realise you're going down in history don't you Ben 😅♥️
@@patrickrose1221 OORAH
I never knew that the London underground had elevated tracks like here in NYC.
Oh yes, plenty. Look for other lines
I have heard that more than half of it is above ground
As an Irishman in Manchester 21 years, I’m amazed to discover that several sections of the London Underground are actually overground and the last time I was on the Tube was on the 25th of June 2002 from Heathrow, Piccadilly Circus (for Soho) and Circle Line (for London Euston)
About 55% of the underground is actually overground.
Nicely shot, and well put together. You can see the ti.e and effort you have put into this video. Awesome! Watching from afar in NZ.
Reliivng my past. Used to live in Mill Hill and used Edgware Station to get around. Now I live in Florida. :)
Hello from Clare Michigan. Thanks for posting.
Absolutely wonderful. Thank you you, sir.
Absolutely awesome. Great respect for these train drivers!👍🏼👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻❤️
Excellent video, mate. High Barnet is my local station since I can remember as a young lad in the 90s. I was seeing if I was in this video as I use the Northern Line everyday to get to and from work.
I've seen several of these driver view videos that were shot with GoPro cameras and all of them seem to have poor low-light capabilities. I can see that the train's headlights are on via the reflectors inside the tunnels but, that is pretty much all that is visible.
The station opened in 1924 as Burnt Oak (Watling) and was designed by Stanley Heaps. The name Burnt Oak was inspired by a tradition that the Romans had a site in the local area in which they lit fires to signify a boundary mark - hence burnt oak. Watling was dropped from the station name around 1950.
Can’t believe the change between Edgware & Colindale , I’m glade we moved to the east coast
I was reeling off the station names in order as you set off 😀
First couple of years of University, my halls were near Angel and my girlfriend lived in Hendon, so would be riding that stretch of the line almost daily. Good times...
Cracking video, do the trains not have headlights or anything to see in front? 😬
Really very old tecnic claustrophobic😢
train lights are not very good
Interesting video. It must be over 20 years since I've been on that line, I used to have family that lived at Mill Hill.. with the darkness and all the train noises it almost seems like the line is haunted.. Only suggestion I would give is try using a night vision camera for the tunnels 🤔🤔
I love the subways and the underground as you call them in England. I'd like to know why are the tunnels so dark and not lit up? And why don't the train drivers use headlights? Thank you for the videos.
Probably because light is not needed and would be a waste of power
we have tunnel lights in the tunnel there sometimes on at weekends at various stations
i) If you could see what goes on down there - you'd never get a driver to sit in the front ever again. ii) Some early tube stock (called 'padded cells') was not fitted with windows in the carriages - as it was believed there was nothing to see iii) the latest video cameras can record at levels below the human eye perception providing incredible results. iv) Modern tunnels are permanently lit - even though most trains are now capable of fully automatic control - it's a can of worms! :)
@@richard_wenner id love to know exactly what goes on in there, padded cells? I'm sorry, sir I don't understand.
@@dannysvinylrainbow4852 the first trains on the City and South London Railway (which is now part of the Northern Line) were smaller than the current trains, with seats that were padded and very small windows that you could only see out of if you were standing. There was also relatively dim lighting inside the trains. These trains were referred to as « padded cells », and one car is on display at the London Transport Museum.
Very Kool, i love the editing at the stations!
It’s really cool how you go from rough looking old style stations to much newer modern looking stations. Good stuff.
I really do find that the fans on these when at a stand are so eerie sounding. Does anyone know why they make this sound?
Is it actually that dark in the tunnels, or was it the camera being set back not able to catch any light? I thought there were lights on the front, having said that, I’ve never looked.
I think Watling is referring to Watling St, which is the name of the A5 close to Burnt Oak
nice and claustrophobic
I don't think i'd turn my water ways into underground train networks
Interesting. I hadn't realised so much of the northern section of the Northern Line was above surface. I grew up in Morden at the southern end, but never ventured as far as Edgware! To get to the tube station from my house I had to walk over the long footbridge above the entrance to the Morden depot.
The Burnt Oak for Watling sign is there because Burnt Oak tube stn. is on Watling Avenue.
i used to work on the northern line in the late 80's as a guard based at Morden - i did my training at white city opposite the BBC
Burnt Oak for Watling? Could that be Watling Street? A famous roman road which runs through St Albans and on northwards
Thank you for the video, I hope we will see other lines as well ( if not done yet Picadilly)
I hope so too! I would love to work with TFL again in the future
Thanks for sharing this. Really enjoyed this and like I was driving the train :)
Hi. I am not absolutely sure but I think that Burnt Oak ( for Watling ) maybe something to do with Watling Street which is the Roman road that heads north out of London.
Lived in Belsize Park in the late 70s. Worst line in London, although, on a recent return to London, I felt a slight flutter when I saw directions to Northern Line. Remembrance of things past 😞
Northern line reputation has changed in 50 years it's one of the most reliable lines on the network
@@BenTaylor. Well there you go. Who would have thought it?! Thanks Ben
Very good video, nice scenery.
Been to London many a times and the most fun part for me is always just simply riding on the tube. You Londoners are completely used to it of course.
Great video. Thank you ❤
You lucky cove Ben, something we have all wanted to do but you could have placed a little more excitement into your commentary. Well done.
apologies I was reading off a script from my second monitor at the time I was really tired at the time of recording I pulled a 24 Hour to get the video out on time
@@BenTaylor. No problem at all Ben. I find putting expression into my voice really difficult too - especially when it is nice and quiet (at 4am). Actors spend a long time at school honing this skill - in fact during a session the ones that seemingly really 'ham it up' in the studio - sound quite natural in the final cut. Just avoid 'what's going on?' and 'awesome' (pet gripes from the colonies (can I say colonies these days?).
I remember that tube trains had headlights. Why is it completely dark when going through the tunnels?
Great video! Very interesting and entertaining. It's just a pity you couldn't clean the glass of the train in front of the camera. The picture would have been better. But thanks anyway.
Believe me, I tried I had window wipes I opened the door and gave it a wipe
Why are there no tunnel light? No train lights in the tunnels?
we have tunnel lights in the tunnel there sometimes on at weekends at various stations and the 1995 stock dose not have good lights
@@BenTaylor. Ben...the same comments over and over about dark tunnel...i'm ex underground train crew...how to explain briefly there's enough light for the driver to see illuminated trackside signalling green/amber/red...drivers eyes adjust to the low light...it's not designed for filming as you well know...the few tunnel bulbs are rare...a naive comment from a foreigner...the tunnel is painted black...the concept of a century of black dirt doesn't occur to many minds...try not to inhale...oh the stories i could relate...especially controlling the doors while i was a Guard before One Man Operation..
Orribile da claustrofobia un po i dietro vecchia la tecnica
@fabiobini4370 English please.
@@markianclark9645 yes, we understand all of those factors, but I think the difference here is the tight clearances of those deep tube tunnels, whereas the taller NYC subway tunnels usually have more room for passages and thus more illumination. They really should paint the tunnels white...
Marvellous video-incredible detail Ben! Congratulations from Thailand!
Were you trying to copy Video 125's production on your video? Looks so similar
no in what way but I wanted to respect what came before but still keep it fresh and new
Watling is a park near Burnt Oak Station.
P.S. Does the driver navigate in the dark, that don't seem like a good idea, I thought they would have headlights on the train?
Greetings from Berlin. Great Video :-)
I drove a rig for a living, you talk about monotony, at least I could turn the wheel, these drivers, you can have it, you can have my job too
Burnt Oak for Watling is Watling Avenue outside the station.
You need to place a very powerful multi-LED lamp flush on the glass of the door to see those tunnels.
I have been looking into that for future driver eye views
Why so dark in the tunnels? Surely, you actually see SOMETHING from the train headlights?
I could see from the naked eye I did fit a light to the front of the train it was later found out not to be any good
All you need to see are the signals. What else do you want to see?
@@joeking5310 exactly..they all repeat the same comment Joe..Bens told everyone but still they ask..headlights are enough..driver only needs to see signals..maybe if they saw a rat or 2 reflected in the eyes by the lights they'd be satisfied
@@joeking5310 how about how close to the wall you are? Or if there is a bad section of track ahead? If the train breaks down, the passengers need to see the way to the exit...
@jayo1212 You can see the walls. They're approximately 9" away either side of the train when in a tunnel.
As for customers evacuating onto the track, they're literally led away by staff and the tunnel lights are switched on. You can't drive with the tunnel lights on, they're too bright and you can't see.
Actually Brent Cross is not the best station for Brent Cross Shopping Centre, it is wrong side of the multi lane North Circular Road, Hendon Central is easier access.
Will the next stock be like DLR? Eventhough, i will still miss the 1995 stock like mad.
Burnt Oak station is situated on Watling Avenue... Other than that, I don't know the significance of "for Watling"... I do know the next station, Colindale, sits on Colindale Avenue..
Having watched video 125s production of the northern line its weird to see it without signalling now compared to how it used to be
Hope the point controller douse not make a mistake ,as the driver can only go ware the rails take him , must be an experience to drive in day light , to breath some healthy air after the tunnels
Great video! How did you get the opportunity to experience this? I take the Northern line daily and would be really interested in sitting in the front one day!
Presumably the Burnt Oak for Watling is a reference to Watling Street, the ancient road that would have run through the area?
No the area of burnt oak is actually called the watling estate.
I love these kind of videos! Something technical to be weary of is that the video kinda stutters. Every 6th frame is the same as the 5th, making it rough to watch. One thing I can imagine is that the framerate of the source video is slightly different than your UA-cam video is. Like 50Hz source vs. 60Hz youtube. In that case it's better to just lower the YT video to the same FPS as the source.
I be addressing that in a video coming soon
@@BenTaylor. Awesome, thanks!
Really thought passing tubes would flash lights at each other 😀
Excellent video, likes from me .
Do the trains not use headlights? What if there’s something on the tracks?
yes but the highlights are not few good on the 95 stock
I used Central Line and Piccaddily durign my years in London as I lived Sherpherds Bush, Acton and Chiswick
So if there’s anything in any tunnels, you’ll have no clue til you hit it?
Great video.Always wanted to work on the underground but probably too old now.Was wondering,are the braking systems fully automatic?Is there a point,when approaching a station that you have to shut off power to enable the brakes to work? I see the green boards at the end of the platforms,I guess they,re for your referance,to tell you that you,ve stopped in the right place.Still,great stuff!
yes automatic braking done by ATO
Oh yes, fully automatic. No risk of overruns these days (I am assured)
tell that to the jubilee line trains i have seen them over run@@WilliamDavidKirbyUK
@BenTaylor. no it isn't
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When you see the train exiting the tunnel it looks like it's close to hitting the walls there.
Thanks for posting. I believe I'd ask maintenance to fix my headlight, as much tunnel as you have. That would give me the willies! Is the power electric? I didn't hear an engine. Recon if it that center rail where it gets its power?
Hey there are two rails for power, the third rail (so called) is the one offset outside the running rails. That has 650V (I think) positive DC. Hence do NOT step on that one.. On British Rail suburban railways the return current is though the running rails, but on the Underground there is a fourth rail in the centre which provides the return arm to collect the remains of the DC on the negative side. Someone tell me if Im wrong but that is how I remember it.
They should paint the tunnel walls white...
Quite interesting actually. Nice video.
good one
Would like to have enjoyed the video. When you plan the next one can you think of cleaning the outside screen ?
Hi I have had this comment multiple times I did clean the windows before putting the camera on the glass
Thanks for your efforts and time chap.@@BenTaylor.
Personally I prefer American subway trains like in my old hometown of NYC and Philadelphia. 😊
Yeah, we have comfort suites Aircon walk-through trains
The ones with spacious subway tunnels and all stations accessible, a la Washington DC!
The whole line looks so old as do the trains. Is their no money to upgrade everything a bit .
The trains are in there mid 20s as for the line I think just around 130 years old
Trains are from 1995, so relatively modern still. Northern line does have new parts, like the battersea extension
@@Matty12333 Can you explain to me why I see pipes and wires alle above the ground directly along the line? It seems dangerous.
Signalling and comunications@@jeanpierredevos3137
I like london
what brands are the subways in ingalerra or more accurate who makes them, curious thank you very much
There is something about the drivers sitting position that perhaps unfairly makes me wonder why they are paid so much. Perhaps it is time they were replaced with computers.
I wonder if there’s a version without the voiceover?
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Very nice channel ! I subscribed
Nice
thanks ben
The trains have lights. I think the camera is not powerful enough to get this on film. The lights are dimmed as the trains enter the stations. The driver eye view is not pitch black like this.
There is nothing wrong with the camera used the lights on the Northern Line 95 stock are not very good and at Golders green i did give a explanation
I can understand 3, middle likely the hot '3rd rail'. But why 4 rails ?
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would be awesome if you had an Sony A7s class camera to shot in the dark since it can goes to 512,000 ISO, you can even shoot in the night with just a moonlight, it's a bummer you only had Action cams with you.
Thanks for the advice but I know what I be using for my next driver’s eye view I personally don’t really use DLSR Cameras for filming anymore
@1:11:25 I looked up, but didn´t get the hint! What did I miss?
Yo the tube tunnels show at 0:48 look like the ones on the isle of wight
What is the fourth line for ????