Why Free Will is an illusion

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    In this video, I argue why free will is an illusion. You have no freedom in wanting to watch this video or read these words because you cannot choose what you want to choose. You have no free will over your will - and when that is the case; Free will is an Illusion.
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  • @TheWonderfulTruth
    @TheWonderfulTruth  Рік тому +2

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    • @j.b.5422
      @j.b.5422 3 місяці тому

      I had no choice but to dislike this video without watching and attenmpting my admnedest to deny its existenxe

  • @TJ-11918
    @TJ-11918 2 місяці тому +4

    If I had free will, random thoughts would never enter my mind that I did not choose to have.

  • @Radioposting
    @Radioposting 2 роки тому +45

    “Of course we have free will because we have no choice but to have it.”
    - Christopher Hitchens

    • @mickberry164
      @mickberry164 2 роки тому +2

      My favorite quote.

    • @planteruines5619
      @planteruines5619 5 місяців тому

      you can give yours to mine if that obligation is weighting on you

  • @logancollier524
    @logancollier524 2 роки тому +34

    I figured out that there was no free will just by thinking about it when I was about 17. I told other people and they got angry so I stopped telling people. I didn't know about the fact that consciousness comes after the fact. I just knew that what you decide one moment to the next is based on almost purely unconscious causes, genes, experiences, moods, habits etc. The choices you think you are making lead you down one path or another usually without you knowing where that choice will lead and that forces other choices to be made. When people would get angry they would say then why do anything? It did not make me angry nor did I think it makes it so that we can't live like we have free will or take responsibility for our actions. It does make it harder to hate other people as they are a product of cause and effect too.

    • @livethemoment5148
      @livethemoment5148 2 роки тому +4

      if you came upon this on your own at 17 then many kudos to you, that is amazing. It is so counter-intuitive that most people will struggle to give up belief in free will.

    • @andrewmalenda199
      @andrewmalenda199 2 роки тому +2

      Anger is the response I get when I suggest this idea to almost anyone. It's never a calm disagreement.

    • @robertjsmith
      @robertjsmith Рік тому

      cause and effect is an elaborate thought construct,nothing causes anything to happen

    • @RobertSmith-wj7zf
      @RobertSmith-wj7zf 4 місяці тому +2

      Isn’t this video contradicting itself at the end? The whole video presupposes that choice is determined by unconscious chemical interactions in our brain that predetermine the choice. I contend that those unconscious chemical interactions are influenced by the conscious choices made before.

    • @LifeIsThePrayer
      @LifeIsThePrayer 3 місяці тому +1

      @@RobertSmith-wj7zf I think he’s explaining what you just said.
      That we can in fact influence our….subconscious mind out of which our seeming conscious thoughts and choices come
      I’ve also seen it described as informing the quantum field based on on our awareness that this is occurring.
      It was Rumi whom I think was a Zoroastrian who said ”Out beyond ideas of right and wrong there is a field. I’ll meet you there”

  • @bdf2718
    @bdf2718 2 роки тому +27

    Remember when you were a child and you did something that caused damage? You probably weren't intending to cause damage, you were just exploring how the world worked. Remember an adult asking you why you did it? You said you didn't know, because you didn't know why you did it.
    But similar incidents occurred over the years and you came to realize that adults want explanations for why you did things. So you learned to create such explanations, and eventually it became automatic to do so.
    Our illusion of free will comes from our habit of inventing stories to explain why we did things. We believe it because we find it useful to predict the actions of others by assuming they have free will.

    • @cobravello453
      @cobravello453 2 роки тому +5

      i was with you until the very last sentence. it is easier not to assume others have free will, but instead that they dont, so with enough information, we can predict their actions and based on that, adjust our own. not that us adjusting our actions means we have free will, just that this is the most logical (and therefore only) thing for us to do.

    • @IbadassI
      @IbadassI 2 роки тому +3

      Making up the explanations itself is a deliberate act of free will.

    • @jursamaj
      @jursamaj Рік тому +1

      @@IbadassI Is it really? Are you free to make up an explanation that a giraffe poked it's head in the window and told you to do the thing you're explaining? I mean, sure, you *could* make up such a story, but nobody will believe it. And, along the lines of BDF's statement above, part of learning to create explanations is learning to create ones that will be believed. Such plausibility limits force you to make up only certain stories, thus getting rid of your freedom.

    • @monsoon410
      @monsoon410 Рік тому

      @@jursamaj I doubt they’ll respond so many months later, but I’d like to add that the memories we’re basing this (year-long, fruitless) conversation on are based on illusions, so ultimately we won’t know (in this lifetime) if “free will” was just made up jargon or some biochemical “law.”

  • @equ-ipe6893
    @equ-ipe6893 11 місяців тому +3

    This is why we think before we act and act upon on it or prevent it
    that’s the freedom

  • @stello61
    @stello61 2 роки тому +7

    I think Schopenhauer put it best: "A man can do what he wants, but not want what he wants".
    Einstein had something to say about that as well: "I do not at all believe in human freedom in the philosophical sense... Schopenhauer’s saying, (...) has been a very real inspiration to me since my youth; it has been a continual consolation in the face of life’s hardships, my own and others’, and an unfailing wellspring of tolerance. This realization mercifully mitigates the easily paralyzing sense of responsibility and prevents us from taking ourselves and other people too seriously; it is conducive to a view of life which, in part, gives humour its due."

    • @stello61
      @stello61 2 роки тому +3

      @@tsaralexis4410 I don't think you fully understand. We simply can't consciously control what we want. I can't want to hurt my mother. I can't want to be interested in woodwork. I can't want to not want to reply to you. I can't want what I want. His conclusion isn't wrong, it's almost painfully obvious.

  • @RetNemmoc555
    @RetNemmoc555 2 роки тому +4

    "You" ARE your brain. Consciousness is an emergent sensory/coordinative function of the brain that is not that different than the ability to react to touch, smell, sound, heat, pressure, etc. The difference is that it is multi-sensory and reactive/controlling in a way that is not yet fully understood. It is the traffic cop, dispatcher, air-traffic controller, moderator, judge.. or any number of other analogous "all-seeing" decision makers. The 300 MS delay is no different than the delay in sensing pain after a traumatic injury. It's the noise of a city. The city isn't conscious, but it is alive in a way.
    Anyway, that's the explanation I dreamt up when I was a kid. I don't hold to it, I just like the sound of it. When someone asks what I think happens to their 'soul' upon death, I ask, "Where does the light go when you turn off the switch?"

  • @Heather-fx7sr
    @Heather-fx7sr 2 роки тому +13

    I once heard someone say “Yes you have free will, but you made all those decisions before you came here.”
    More will be revealed ✨

  • @moonshoes11
    @moonshoes11 2 роки тому +17

    My Will chose to like this video, and I enjoyed liking it.

  • @prabhup2190
    @prabhup2190 2 роки тому +6

    I appreciate 👍

  • @inlibertywetrust425
    @inlibertywetrust425 Рік тому +1

    I think that Sabine hossenfelders (she is a theoretical physicist) youtube video "I don't believe in free will. This is why" is also a good explanation.
    She believes that we do make choices as she says in the end of the video "so that you don't have free will doesn't mean you don't make decisions. Of course you make decisions. You decided to watch this video, didn't you? Good choice by the way".
    Her point, I think, is that the brain does unconsciously make the calculation over what we want when we are in a situation to choose from different alternatives such as "what do I want to eat for dinner", the brain then does unconsciously do the calculation and the result of this calculation that is the choice pops up in our consciousness.
    So the will is not "free" but still it is our will, choices and wants.
    Sounds realistic. 😊

  • @IbadassI
    @IbadassI 2 роки тому +4

    The fact that you can choose to appreciate life, is that free will?

    • @andrewmalenda199
      @andrewmalenda199 2 роки тому

      Wouldn't that choice still be the result of/subject to the causal chain described in the video?

    • @IbadassI
      @IbadassI 2 роки тому +1

      @@andrewmalenda199 in that case, is studying and trying to understand consciousness and free will, is that itself free will?

    • @IbadassI
      @IbadassI 2 роки тому +1

      @@illusion7929 probably is not good enough. It has to be certain.

    • @andrewmalenda199
      @andrewmalenda199 2 роки тому +1

      @@IbadassI It’s certainly not.

    • @IbadassI
      @IbadassI 2 роки тому

      @@andrewmalenda199 just saying so doesn't make it so.
      Then you have the problem of the brain itself discussing free will, that it identifies free will as a thing in itself and trying to understand free will is driven by free will. The subatomic particles would have to arrange themselves to even try to understand what free will actually means.

  • @Laneline5000
    @Laneline5000 Місяць тому +1

    I absolutely love this channel. It's a breath of fresh air. Thank you for the content you provide.

  • @cmvamerica9011
    @cmvamerica9011 2 роки тому +5

    I believe in free will; I have no choice.

    • @cps_Zen_Run
      @cps_Zen_Run 2 роки тому +1

      Fortunately, we can rewire our brains. As a result, most no longer believe in an actual Santa Claus.

    • @Mr.Goodkat
      @Mr.Goodkat 2 роки тому

      @@cps_Zen_Run You don't rewire your brain to disavow yourself a belief in Santa Claus.

    • @davidgould9431
      @davidgould9431 2 роки тому

      Christopher Hitchens, I believe (and most likely not original to him).

  • @w00dyalien
    @w00dyalien 2 роки тому +9

    This is one of the best channels I found recently... and not saying this because of this video, it's an overall statement, actually I love your compilations! Thanks for taking the time to put all of those together!

  • @bethanienaylor
    @bethanienaylor 2 роки тому +2

    Seeking and Applying Wisdom is probably as close to free will as we can get.

  • @davidgould9431
    @davidgould9431 2 роки тому +4

    Sabine Hossenfelder (I think I spelled that right - sorry, Sabine, if not) gives a physicist's argument against free will (including the quantum stuff). Christopher Hitchens said that he believed in free will "because he had no choice". (Quote probably a bit approximate). Sorry - I just had to write that stuff.

  • @umbrosia5202
    @umbrosia5202 2 роки тому +4

    I think we have have both free will and not free will. If we are the unpredictable conscious, then it means, that this conscious still thinks somehow and it makes decisions. Like being in a family. You can't decide in which family you are born into, but how you what to deal with this family.

    • @michaelpace1075
      @michaelpace1075 2 роки тому

      With your ’if, then’ statement, is it possible that you have arrived at the wrong conclusion? Could it be that you had no choice but to make that conclusion even if it is wrong?

  • @stephenderenick8969
    @stephenderenick8969 2 роки тому +3

    I would love to know how many people subscribed after this video. Best bait I've ever seen.

  • @theChilest
    @theChilest 2 роки тому +3

    Keep the good work my friend. Saludos from Chile🇨🇱🙋🏻‍♂️

  • @kamranhamidfar1725
    @kamranhamidfar1725 26 днів тому

    I decided to have freewill when the universe asked me if I was interested to have it or not

  • @peterday3253
    @peterday3253 2 роки тому +2

    What if the question isn't whether you have free will or not, but whether the "you" that you believe yourself to be is the real you? Will is in the gut, not in the head. The person is a dream in the imagination.

  • @Stoomraider
    @Stoomraider 2 роки тому +1

    I like to think that while I do not have unlimited freewill - I accept entropy is applicable to all, it will still be correct to say the particles of me originated in pure free will - nothingness.
    Nothingness means no dominance, no superior or inferior, nothing to rule, just pure and utter free will. Entropy sacrifices this free will to from matter and ultimately, me.
    Death means a return to free will. (Back to the father - from the gospels).

  • @jordanrohlfing7924
    @jordanrohlfing7924 Рік тому +1

    Sapolsky doesn’t think we have free will. That is why I clicked

  • @gabor6259
    @gabor6259 2 роки тому +2

    Do we have a _free won't?_ Can we choose what NOT to do?

  • @miftahulmunir4562
    @miftahulmunir4562 2 роки тому +3

    Thanks for the great video 👍🙏

    • @miftahulmunir4562
      @miftahulmunir4562 2 роки тому

      So we are the earth, we are the universe.
      The universe forms the planets, and also forms living things, including us.
      So the universe is alive.

  • @cps_Zen_Run
    @cps_Zen_Run 2 роки тому +9

    Having a prior interest in Free Will and Consciousness, I was more likely to click. Still, this is an example of a typical thought process to derive a rational response, formed post hoc, to the click. The delusion continues. LOL.

  • @benvanrensburg4261
    @benvanrensburg4261 5 місяців тому

    At sixty years of age, I am still 'working' on this question. My only 'discovery' along the way, is that the answer doesn't matter. No laws should change. The penal system should remain in place. You'll still get angry at me for cheating you, or trying to cheat you, or slandering against you, etc. And even if I come down on the side of determinism, I will still struggle with moral questions, as the great Spinoza did.

  • @georgeetboom7719
    @georgeetboom7719 5 місяців тому

    You got me. I didn’t choose to click on this video, nor did I choose to write this message, I am witnessing my brain write this, and I am conscious that iam working

  • @cmvamerica9011
    @cmvamerica9011 2 роки тому +1

    Only to the extent that you can escape your obsessions and compulsions; can you choose freely.

  • @jonc4719
    @jonc4719 2 роки тому +2

    This is a beautiful thing, also.

  • @danielbustamante832
    @danielbustamante832 2 роки тому +1

    I am sure most of the confusion is because our languages haven't developed for these subjects. Discussing the concept of the self, consciousness, or even generalized things as the 'problem of the many' gives us an insight about why having this atomic ideas is not the best way of approaching ideal communication... A lot of the common misunderstandings and beliefs in the absurd happen because people don't understand that the language we use needs to be filtered through a lot of 'meta' revisions of the language(s) used.

  • @tobiasabrahamsson2431
    @tobiasabrahamsson2431 2 роки тому +5

    I tried explaining this to someone irl and they had a very hard time accepting it lol. I guess alot of people do. But to me its obvious this is the case if you just pay attention to how your thought appear to you, out of nothing it feels like. It's for sure not me choosing those thoughts.

    • @stello61
      @stello61 2 роки тому +2

      Accurate, not all people posses sufficient intrapersonal intelligence in order to easily get it, though with time they might get there. Meditation also really helps with this.
      Just ask them to think about a person they met during the last 10 years. And to tell you the answer.
      And then to hold both arms at stomach height and raise one arm in the next 5 seconds.
      Then ask them to reason how their conscious was part of any of that.
      These exercises should give a first hint into how little we can control our mind.

    • @tmftt9087
      @tmftt9087 2 роки тому

      So things are determined or things are random. What is the third option? I see it like this: we have control over our future, but once we arrive in a moment, we are subject to the input and physiology that exists in that moment. Input will determine output, so make sure you get some good input. Dennett calls this whole argument ‘psychological vandalism.’ I can see why.

    • @stello61
      @stello61 2 роки тому

      @@tsaralexis4410 Not acting is also making a decision. You are making a value judgement to either act or not act based on what you want or don't want, and we simply can't choose that. So even not acting on a thought isn't as free one might think.
      "Hm I could eat ice cream right now but no, I won't do it, I choose not to. But why did I choose not to? Because ice cream has a lot of calories and is unhealthy, even though its tasty. But why do I value it being unhealthy more than the taste of it in this instance, while other times I don't?" I personally couldn't get much further down into the conscious with that, maybe you can. And even if you can go much further, you will most likely arrive at a want that you can't change even if you wanted to.

    • @stello61
      @stello61 2 роки тому +1

      @@tsaralexis4410 The whole point is that it's supposed to be "free", nobody is arguing that it's not coming from "our" brain and that therefore "we" aren't the author.

  • @akosorosz7453
    @akosorosz7453 2 місяці тому

    "you have no idea what your next thoughts will be until they arise" is on point.
    Free will debunked. Next question.

  • @r.p.3215
    @r.p.3215 2 роки тому +6

    Wonderful indeed! ❤️

  • @mytube12
    @mytube12 2 роки тому +2

    The universe has only one will! It repeats again and again the same way without any difference!

    • @jermainroberts361
      @jermainroberts361 2 роки тому

      bullshit... variety is the spice of life

    • @mytube12
      @mytube12 2 роки тому

      @@jermainroberts361 not always, it's balance ⚖️

    • @jermainroberts361
      @jermainroberts361 2 роки тому

      @@mytube12 i agree with part of you statement. ''it's a balance''.. but variety is still the spice of life..

    • @mytube12
      @mytube12 2 роки тому

      @@jermainroberts361 hmm i agree

    • @mytube12
      @mytube12 2 роки тому

      @@jermainroberts361 but this comment was made an infinite times before in an infinite universes and will be made infinite times again in an infinite universes! Everytime it's the same "variety" repeating again and again!

  • @Elc0chin0
    @Elc0chin0 2 роки тому +1

    Interesting so the murder committed can be blamed on something other than the fact that the person committed the murder? The drunk driver? The thief? The womanizer? The cheat?

  • @nmitsthefish
    @nmitsthefish 2 роки тому +2

    great illustration of Sam Harris's position on free will

  • @celestialsatheist1535
    @celestialsatheist1535 2 роки тому +1

    Well our brains shows electric actives way before we make any decisions. But it is own brain that
    Makes the call. So we do have some form of free will

  • @BlackDeath920
    @BlackDeath920 9 місяців тому

    I just discovered this truth last year. Ill be 39 tomorrow. What swayed me? The question i asked myself was "did micheal jordan have a choice in playing ball? Or 2pac choose music?

    • @Captaiesqueleto
      @Captaiesqueleto 4 місяці тому

      Yes they had a choice to do those things only a fool would not think we have free will

  • @LifeIsThePrayer
    @LifeIsThePrayer 3 місяці тому

    Nonetheless there is still a pattern of which people are more likely than less likely to open this video.
    Experience teaches us that our thoughts about a specific topic remain fairly consistent until we are presented with new information which may change our opinion.
    So our actions and choices are not completely random.

  • @raycaster4398
    @raycaster4398 2 роки тому +6

    Free Will! He's been stuck in that damn prison unjustly.

  • @racebannon5523
    @racebannon5523 2 роки тому +1

    Theres a little alien in a little driver seat inside our skulls, our eyes are its windshield and they run the show.. we only think we do. Right little buddy?
    That's right. Now go get us a piece of coconut cream pie.

    • @davidgould9431
      @davidgould9431 2 роки тому +1

      @Race Bannon - I like your (I'm assuming sarcastic) model: it's what I call the "Star Trek" model of conciousness.
      We all think that "we" are some sort of James T. Kirk sitting on his chair in the bridge, looking at the screen and listening to the speakers. Instead of our brains making all of that stuff up. It lets us (well, the religious amongst us) believe that there is something to rescue after the ship sinks.
      If it makes them happy, let them believe it: it'll all be the same in the end.

    • @racebannon5523
      @racebannon5523 2 роки тому +1

      @@davidgould9431 yeah but religion does a lot of damage like trying to make it the law to teach Creation in science class which would be a bad thing for this country in the long run or their belief that gays should be killed lots of gay teenagers commit suicide because they grew up in religious households. Religious con men milk billions from gullible people with cancer... I could go on and on.
      My little story was inspired by a scene in Men In Black then I added the Gilligan's Island stuff

    • @racebannon5523
      @racebannon5523 2 роки тому +1

      And what does God need with a Starship?

    • @davidgould9431
      @davidgould9431 2 роки тому +1

      @@racebannon5523 I have to admit to having been culturally insensitive. In the UK, the Church of England isn't doing much of what you poor guys in the good ol' US of A have to put up with. To be honest, they aren't doing much of anything except for making sure their bishops' pension fund is well-managed (and to hell with the planet - petrochemicals are good investments).
      There's probably a debate to be had about whether the actions of the TV-evangelist conmen (I have Poppoff in mind - debunked by James Randi but still rose from bankruptcy to do it all again) are a fault of "religion" or just bad people. I suppose religion conditions people to believe things without evidence, which is bad enough in itself.
      I missed the MiB reference and have no idea what Gilligan's Island is. I'm just not up to date with popular culture.

  • @alexdetrojan4534
    @alexdetrojan4534 Рік тому

    '...you have no free will over your will...' Boom!

  • @davidgould9431
    @davidgould9431 2 роки тому +3

    At about 00:30 I was thinking "get on with it" ... then I realised what you'd done. Kudos! OK, now to watch the rest of it.

  • @GODiscomingsoonagain
    @GODiscomingsoonagain Рік тому +2

    Seek JESUS befor to late

  • @matterasmachine
    @matterasmachine 2 роки тому +2

    if free will did not exists, all wills would be the same. And we would all lie on the floor like stones - according to laws of physics.

    • @sigigle
      @sigigle 2 роки тому

      will is different than free will.

    • @matterasmachine
      @matterasmachine 2 роки тому

      @@sigigle who makes them different?

    • @sigigle
      @sigigle 2 роки тому +1

      @@matterasmachine
      They're determined by nature and nurture, biology and environment.

    • @matterasmachine
      @matterasmachine 2 роки тому

      @@sigigle but they are different so there is option to get a unique one somewhere. You can have a will that nobody never had. You are free to have that. You have a free will.

    • @sigigle
      @sigigle 2 роки тому

      @@matterasmachine
      They're all different because we have all have different nature and nurture.
      Free will is impossible, it's something coming from nothing.

  • @Kipchumba_Chepkwony
    @Kipchumba_Chepkwony 2 роки тому +10

    If it's really free, (free will) why does it have consequences, conditions? I'm happy I left religion 15 years ago.

    • @racebannon5523
      @racebannon5523 2 роки тому

      @@themammonous9698 what's a breh, bro?

    • @racebannon5523
      @racebannon5523 2 роки тому

      @@themammonous9698 uh-huh

    • @racebannon5523
      @racebannon5523 2 роки тому

      @@themammonous9698 okay you fit in

    • @racebannon5523
      @racebannon5523 2 роки тому

      @ANONYMOUS SOURCE like you know the truth...pfff

    • @racebannon5523
      @racebannon5523 2 роки тому

      @ANONYMOUS SOURCE that's what they tell you but it's not true and you can't prove it

  • @ksturmer5388
    @ksturmer5388 2 роки тому +3

    -Christopher Hitchens nailed it: ''Yes, I have free will. I have no choice but to have it.''

  • @warren52nz
    @warren52nz 2 роки тому +1

    Who said "I have free will because I have no choice but to have it?" (or something similar)

    • @kaloygats4604
      @kaloygats4604 2 роки тому +3

      Christopher Hitchens

    • @warren52nz
      @warren52nz 2 роки тому +1

      @@kaloygats4604 Yeah that's right.

    • @warren52nz
      @warren52nz 2 роки тому +2

      @Satan McDougal II My point is that free will is just a dodge by apologists to try to explain why bad things happen to good people. Like "God works in mysterious ways".

  • @ob5005.
    @ob5005. Рік тому

    It is in man’s nature to hate what he does not know and cannot obtain.
    Now everyone leaves the hospice of this realm very quickly and vanishes,
    having seen only a light or a shadow of the perfection and beauty for no more than a moment, without in any way being satiated.
    Come now, let us go; there is a great meeting on that island.
    All the nobles of the land are assembled there.
    See, a most noble commander, bearing exalted decorations, is pronouncing a discourse, and requesting certain things from that compassionate monarch.
    All those present say: “Yes, we too desire the same,” and affirm and assent to his words.
    Now listen to the words of that commander favoured by his monarch:
    “O monarch that nurtures us with his bounty! Show us the source and origin of these examples and shadows you have shown us!
    Hence, it is necessary that man should go towards an eternal realm where will contemplate the Divine beauty and perfection.

  • @cmvamerica9011
    @cmvamerica9011 2 роки тому

    Just because I am conscious of shitting my pants; doesn’t mean I did it freely.

  • @jambles2706
    @jambles2706 2 роки тому +4

    Did I actually like this?

    • @tealx2014
      @tealx2014 2 роки тому

      It up to you!

    • @alandaujenis2419
      @alandaujenis2419 2 роки тому

      So if l choose to commit a crime it's not my fault? It's all predetermined. Where does this leave the justice system?

    • @tealx2014
      @tealx2014 2 роки тому

      Depends on your belief!

    • @ilcorbellodipianoia8646
      @ilcorbellodipianoia8646 2 роки тому +2

      @@alandaujenis2419 educate yourself on the topic. A few lines of comment won't do it.

    • @mavrosyvannah
      @mavrosyvannah 2 роки тому

      @@alandaujenis2419 just turn yourself in before you do it, because you already did it. In my life, not one unrighteous thought or desire.

  • @monsoon410
    @monsoon410 Рік тому

    Some of this is arguing semantics, yeah?
    Now, I believe that I am a combination of the puppet and the puppeteer, so I have both will that is “free” of any “other” brain’s direct influence (ancestral influence maybe, but that is still indirect), and something unconsciously powerful that is a “soul,” which is both an illusion and (since we both like paradoxes) the “true” reality. The world around us is observed through a series of illusions we are trying to make sense out of (spinning a narrative). Frames of reference are no more or less an illusion than our brain activity.
    Subjective unawareness isn’t measurable, but it is almost guaranteed to vary between individual specimens. This means that there are people who can access the unconscious in “altered states” of consciousness. These states of the mind are universally pursued through meditation, drugs, and/or alcohol. No judgment, just observation.

  • @rbolo29
    @rbolo29 2 роки тому

    I tried to reject this video and turn it off to prove my free-will, but can't do it.

  • @RobertSmith-wj7zf
    @RobertSmith-wj7zf 4 місяці тому +1

    Isn’t this video contradicting itself at the end? The whole video presupposes that choice is determined by unconscious chemical interactions in our brain that predetermine the choice. I contend that those unconscious chemical interactions are influenced by the conscious choices made before.

  • @livethemoment5148
    @livethemoment5148 2 роки тому

    examples of not having "free will": 1) you blurted something hurtful to your partner and then had to apologize for acting rash and not "thinking" before saying that...
    2) you had a bad day at work and then took it out on your spouse when you got home...then you apologize and blame it on your shitty day at work
    3) you have way too much alcohol and you do something very stupid, then have to apologize and say that was not you, it was the alcohol
    4) you eat way too much junk food and unclean food and become very sick, then your friend calls you and you are in a crappy mood and decide not to go hiking , even though you had previously agreed....then you apologize and blame your bad eating and crappy state of health for having to make that decision, even though you had the will to go
    5) you took some drugs that led to bad decisions while you were under the influence
    see, the pattern here? there are so many examples in our daily lives where our decisions and thoughts are governed by physical things that once done, we lose complete control over what we say or decide on....in other words , those physical things have a big influence on us on our supposed free will....now extrapolate that all the way back to when you were born, who your parents were, where you were born, under what condtions, and everything that came after that, your education, friends, accidents, traumas, etc etc all those external influences made you and molded you to be your current YOU....and now you are automatically performing the role of being YOU....and it turns out YOU are the biggest influence now on what you say/do/think/decide at any moment.
    Imagine the things you said or did a few seconds ago, a few minutes/hours ago...now forget for a moment who was responsible for those things, imagine even that those things were not a product of your free will, ....the point is....that the things YOU did in the very recent past are a huge influence subconciously on what you will do NOW..and there is little you can really do to change that.

    • @monsoon410
      @monsoon410 Рік тому

      Psychedelics, while not helping the “free will” argument, can and do seem to prevent knee jerk reactions and chemical dependency over time. Those changes seem rare if not impossible under any other circumstances in life, though 6 years meditating in a monastery probably have the same effect.

  • @daviddrake8433
    @daviddrake8433 2 роки тому

    Have you, as the author of this video, ever heard of the expression "Psycho-babble?" Well, it certainly sounds like you are shoveling it out in large quantities so I'm going to use my free will and say "Ta Ta and Toodle do."

  • @toni4729
    @toni4729 2 роки тому

    It won't take me long to get fed up chose to move on to another one. Goodbye.

  • @JesseUnderscoreMartin
    @JesseUnderscoreMartin 2 роки тому +4

    I was soooo close to going a week without an existential crisis 😂

  • @United_Wings
    @United_Wings 26 днів тому

    Interesting 🤔

  • @alaaraad5194
    @alaaraad5194 2 роки тому +1

    Is this video stating the absolute 100% truth?
    To us robots, yes
    To us humans, no

  • @jursamaj
    @jursamaj Рік тому

    Quantum randomness doesn't rescue free will, because people who claim free will aren't talking about acting *randomly.*

  • @Captaiesqueleto
    @Captaiesqueleto 4 місяці тому +1

    Ok if we have no free will than anyone that murders should not be in prison anyway who grapes should not go to prison because they have no free will

    • @akosorosz7453
      @akosorosz7453 2 місяці тому

      Law protects people. It has nothing to do with philosophy.

  • @nicksapp6543
    @nicksapp6543 2 роки тому

    You know I had to comment. I had no choice!

  • @braija
    @braija 2 роки тому

    I also dont have a ferglemergelbergelmenergel, or do I? I don't know, so why bother about it?

  • @cmvamerica9011
    @cmvamerica9011 2 роки тому

    It’s free won’t more than free will.

  • @Jim-yz7qf
    @Jim-yz7qf 2 роки тому

    I have a working theory. It is untested, nor am I a physicist. The brain uses electricity catalysted by chemicals. We have large, hardwired pathways-fear, anger, love. Then we have the lesser, more specialized pathways. These pathways, when active, produce electromagnetic fields. These fields interact throughout the whole. This “cloud” allows for immediate and continuous communication between the regions of the brain. Since these are clouds, resistance is null. When one is scared, that area creates a strong field, suppressing other clouds from dominating actions. There must be a dominant field. This field is influenced by other active fields. Thus causing the complexity of thought. Ok. Gimme money now. Facetious, yet titillating. Great conversation exercises. Ok, talk amongst each other. Expand on the theory. I am a dumb, disclaimer.

  • @abeschwartz893
    @abeschwartz893 2 роки тому

    If free will is an illusion how did I choose to click on this video? Isn't that contradictory?!

    • @sigigle
      @sigigle 2 роки тому

      You were just according to the conditions of your mind and environment, nature (biology, brain) and nurture (environment).

  • @cobravello453
    @cobravello453 2 роки тому

    i agree with what you said in this video. however, you did not convince me - i had already come to the same conclusions independently.

  • @JamesRichardWiley
    @JamesRichardWiley 2 роки тому +1

    If you believe in the existence of an all powerful God then your free will is an illusion
    God ALLOWS you to believe that you have free will
    but your free will can never overcome God's infinite power.
    That's why I don't believe in the existence of gods.

    • @Captaiesqueleto
      @Captaiesqueleto 4 місяці тому

      Wrong because if we have no free will than anyone that has done wrong had no free choice in doing evil

  • @lobintool
    @lobintool 2 роки тому +1

    If what you say is true, there's nothing much I can do about it!

  • @tealx2014
    @tealx2014 2 роки тому +2

    Did Mary, Joseph, Jonah, Adam & Eve, etc….have free will???

    • @tsdbhg
      @tsdbhg 2 роки тому +7

      We have to determine the validity of their existence first. So far not a single presented justification is rationally compelling enough to conclude this.

    • @cps_Zen_Run
      @cps_Zen_Run 2 роки тому +1

      Teal, as much Free Will as Humpty Dumpty, Harry Potter, and Sam from Lord of the Rings. Peace.

  • @danthesquirrel
    @danthesquirrel 5 місяців тому

    Neuroscience has only shown there is a biological machinery inside us that is used when we make choices but in absolutely no way has it proven there is no free will That was just the author of this video injecting a personal belief. Some people claim that all of reality is just one big script that was determined for everything at the beginning of time. That it isn't your fault if you commit crimes and hurt others and embrace the virtues of evil, because you have no free will and can only act out your script. And the people who do heroic things, are generous, embrace the virtues of good, those people didn't choose to do those things and don't deserve our admiration because they too are just acting out a script. All of this is just a cop out from taking responsibility for our decisions. If the people advocating no free will really believed this stuff themselves then they wouldn't be trying to teach others, or take credit for good things they did or express remorse for the injuries they inflicted on others. The moment people believe that nothing they do matters then people stop caring about others, they stop learning, stop struggling to make things better, stop caring about anything. Obviously being born in to poverty will limit a persons choices when compared to someone born into wealth but this only changes the options on the table we get to choose from: But we still choose. Just because a person doesn't have absolute power over everything else in reality doesn't mean they have no power at all. What you think, feel, care about and do (or don't) matters. Life is a huge choose your own adventure book with a fixed start but the story that unfolds is guided by what choices we made along the way.

  • @rayw3332
    @rayw3332 2 роки тому

    That's absurd as starting up a car by turning the ignition switch with the key, followed by the automobile computer sending out hundreds of commands and setting into motion various mechanical movements and the driver then remarking, "The car started itself!" lol

  • @cmvamerica9011
    @cmvamerica9011 2 роки тому +1

    More reason to lock up criminals.

    • @binnieb173
      @binnieb173 2 роки тому +1

      Its literally the opposite. You train people to not commit crime.

    • @binnieb173
      @binnieb173 2 роки тому +1

      @@tsaralexis4410 Read up on Hegel and the Dielectric. We make a society that trains people to be the way we want.

    • @binnieb173
      @binnieb173 2 роки тому +1

      @@tsaralexis4410 that argument makes no sense at all. Why would it be chaos? You can't just make a random assertion and not back it up.
      Reality doesn't show us in anyway that we have free choice.
      If you make a claim use evidence to support it.

    • @sigigle
      @sigigle 2 роки тому

      @@tsaralexis4410
      "If we do not have free will, then how can we even know what we are doing"
      Free will is not required for information processing

    • @athlonz2007
      @athlonz2007 2 роки тому +2

      @@sigigle If they knew better at first, then why would they commit a crime in the first place? They didn't know any better, their environment shaped them into what they are today. Backgrounds. I think we will become a much less violent society when we understand eachothers and why things happens in the first place.

  • @mickberry164
    @mickberry164 2 роки тому +2

    I actually disagree with the conclusion that we have no free will. We have limited free will. And I ask, if someone thinks we have no free will, why does he or she bother to do anything at all? You have no choice to do anything. And then also, why state your case that we have no free will.? Do you have no choice but to state it? Do I have no choice to argue that we do? I could be wrong here, but I think this is all nothing but verbal and mental masterbation. Just because I have no control over which neurons or synapses are in my brain does not mean I have no say in how I use them. It's like saying that I cannot go 60 miles an hour because I myself am not able to run that fast--it is the car that goes 60 miles an hour. Yes. But I get in the stupid car, and I travel at 60 miles and hour. And furthermore, you declaring I have no free will does not make me have no free will. Nor you believing I have no free will does not mean I have no free will. And I return to this: If you truly believe no one has free will, then your behavior belies your point. There would be no reason at all to state your case in the first place, because no one has the choice to agree or disagree. It's stupidity in action.

    • @Albtraum_TDDC
      @Albtraum_TDDC 2 роки тому +1

      I agree somewhat although I can answer your question:
      "if someone thinks we have no free will, why does he or she bother to do anything at all?"
      He does do whatever he does, precisely because he has no free will.
      I'll say this, though. This all depends a bit on what you mean by "you", who is yourself? Your body and brain or the emergent and slightly delayed consciousness? Or both? Or is one the prisoner of the other? And also, does it really matter?
      Whether we have free will or not, and whoever we really are, reality exists and our constituent parts do create changes in it through actions. So in the larger scheme of things, humanity has more pressing (and less depressing) questions to answer to nurture the progress of our society.

  • @kahalerogan6963
    @kahalerogan6963 2 роки тому

    Way too long on the intro … I get it, red pill blue pill Neo was going to be the chosen one ☝️ regardless. But real talk, what the heck are you jabbering about? I’m now dumber for having listened to this. 😅

  • @keithgordon2645
    @keithgordon2645 2 роки тому

    I am not impressed. It is very difficult to impress me. :-

  • @andyt1462
    @andyt1462 2 роки тому

    Pineapple on pizza?

  • @neilbobbett
    @neilbobbett 2 роки тому +1

    What utter rubbish…..