Tens of thousands march on NZ parliament in protest against Māori treaty bill ► www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/19/tens-of-thousands-to-converge-on-nz-parliament-as-march-to-protest-controversial-maori-rights-bill-reaches-capital What is the treaty principles bill and why is it causing controversy in New Zealand? ► www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/07/treaty-of-waitangi-new-zealand-founding-document-changes-bill
The Bill is a smokescreen. I know they desperately want to Drill for Oil, and consulting Iwi and environmental groups is annoying. Couldn't even consult on the Treaty Bill with Iwi, how shocking
@@kiatupato182yup makes sense making everyone equal takes away Māori status as original land custodians and now makes the treaty not apply to current maori allowing government to build their mines and oil refineries on maori land without maori consent (essentially confiscating land again). But the government are pushing this race division agenda to draw attention away from their attempt at a cash grab.
@@Manuscriptsdontburn1990 Tell Europe to stop exploiting Africa for its resources first and funding wars in the Middle East that displace the very people I'm sure you Europeans enjoy whining about
Its like when u owned a land, i go there and stay there…and after a while, i i told u.u and i are equal in this land. I bet you must be happy when i say that right…not to mention those land taken by state etc…i must be easy to understand if u were once the king of the land :D
1. "The New Zealand Government has the right to govern all New Zealanders." What’s missing? The Māori text of Te Tiriti uses the term "kāwanatanga," which refers to governance but not in a way that overrides Māori tino rangatiratanga (absolute chieftainship). The English version, however, uses "sovereignty," which has historically caused confusion and breaches of the Treaty. This wording reinforces the idea of unilateral Crown authority, undermining the partnership and shared governance that Te Tiriti intended to establish. 2. "The New Zealand Government will honour all New Zealanders in the chieftainship of their land and all their property." What’s missing? This interpretation significantly alters the meaning of tino rangatiratanga. In Te Tiriti, Māori retained absolute authority over their lands, homes, and treasures (taonga). The bill’s wording suggests the government will merely "honour" this authority, which is far weaker than the original guarantee. It diminishes the distinct rights promised to Māori and ignores the cultural and historical significance of taonga. 3. "All New Zealanders are equal under the law with the same rights and duties." What’s missing? Equality is important, but this interpretation oversimplifies the nuanced promise of Te Tiriti. Article 3 guaranteed Māori the same rights as British subjects in addition to their existing rights as tangata whenua. The bill flattens this relationship, ignoring historical breaches and the inequities Māori have faced. True equity often requires tailored approaches to address systemic injustices, rather than a blanket approach that treats everyone as though the playing field is already level. The Bigger Issue: The bill centralizes the power to define Te Tiriti’s principles in the hands of politicians, excluding Māori voices from interpreting their own treaty rights. This undermines the spirit of Te Tiriti, which was founded on partnership, protection, and participation. By sidelining Māori input, the bill risks eroding the rights guaranteed under the Treaty and creating further division, rather than fostering the mutual respect and collaboration it promised.
This is what they are protesting against. Principle 3: (1) Everyone is equal before the law. (2) Everyone is entitled, without discrimination, to (a) the equal protection and equal benefit of the law; and (b) the equal enjoyment of the same fundamental human rights.
They are protesting against rich people. In the UK the right wing dont protest rich people but instead target poor people and victims of human trafficking based on race and religion.
Through a Western lens Anti colonisialisim is seen as leftist. But in the world of indigenous cultures I personally think it's leaning towards the right. It's necessary in fighting against colonial systems
Then that would mean the Treaty of Waitangi wouldn’t apply as the Crown is one signatory of it. Then what do you think would happen to Māori rights? Look what happened to indigenous rights after “The Crown” was “removed” from America.
What disingenuous statement. You know deep in your heart that this is not about equality. I really do not understand why you guys do this. You are guests in NZ, behave as such.
@patxilaskurain2184 What is it about? Asking honestly. I want Europe for the Europeans so I'm very pro indigenous rights, but what is the objection here?
Unresolved problems of historical legacy. These are hangovers of British Colonialism into the 21st century. Do not know what solution there is to such problems.
Moriori still thrive on the island of Rēhoku and are even in the protests . Stop trying to weaponise it and then try and deflect on māori. take a seat and hush.
colonizers commit genocide all the time - but that doesn't worry you because its not your people - yeah superficial caring about a people you know nothing about - just click bait from people like you
Who's the Treaty with - us? I think we should support their cause. What we're watching is a people resist colonisation that was started by us. We are the OGs of globalism and we should probably be in the vanguard of admitting that it has its faults.
We feel its a smokescreen, they up to something and it isn't the self righteous virtue signaling Equal rights dribble they claiming. We all subject to the same laws in NZ
@@bodybalanceU2 I remember having a dance with my marori friends when I was young. I really enjoyed it. Not my culture but I didn't taking park in there dance.
@danmacalpinbruce2555 If you care about equality of rights and responsibility... all who support the Bill need to do a couple important things first. Over 26,000 Hectares of Maori Land locked in perpetual leases right now. Maori owners not allowed to charge Fair market rates and make a Fair income for over 100 years. Thousands of acres of Maori Land on 99 year leases. Many not paying a Fair lease rate (many not paying anything) for decades now, which is reason enough to break lease. Some say 'but look at the improvements I have made' but you haven't paid a Fair Lease fee for decades, viewing it just as 'Maori Land'. Take the buildings and move onto other Land where you get Free or extremely low lease rates. Fair Treatment? Equality? These Lease agreements are modern day scamming and theft over a span of 50,60,70,80,90,100 plus years. Until these unequal Treatment of Maori get rectified, all who support the Bill are HYPOCRITES
@bodybalanceU2 no, I don't think it was meant to be a mean comment. Just a lot of white people shocked by how many Maori there are. We do kind of live in a segregated society(more because of rich/poor not race), so many white people have never seen that many Maori people before. Many do not have any Maori friends (they maybe have 1), and do not mix in circles with Maori in it.
@@bodybalanceU2This is England 🏴 where us English have lived for thousands of years, when are we sending back the army of fighting aged men, NO WOMAN, NO CHILDREN 😂
@@slammy333 other polynesians for starters Do you think no one lived in new zealand until 1320, yet Australia has inhabitants for at least 50 000 years!
Tens of thousands march on NZ parliament in protest against Māori treaty bill ► www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/19/tens-of-thousands-to-converge-on-nz-parliament-as-march-to-protest-controversial-maori-rights-bill-reaches-capital
What is the treaty principles bill and why is it causing controversy in New Zealand? ► www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/07/treaty-of-waitangi-new-zealand-founding-document-changes-bill
Billionaires are moving to NZ at alarming rates….. go figure….
They'll end up as food...
@@BudaneveyThe Maori will eat you and educate themselves while doing it. Cool, huh?
The Bill is a smokescreen. I know they desperately want to Drill for Oil, and consulting Iwi and environmental groups is annoying. Couldn't even consult on the Treaty Bill with Iwi, how shocking
@@kiatupato182 That actually makes sense.
@@kiatupato182yup makes sense making everyone equal takes away Māori status as original land custodians and now makes the treaty not apply to current maori allowing government to build their mines and oil refineries on maori land without maori consent (essentially confiscating land again). But the government are pushing this race division agenda to draw attention away from their attempt at a cash grab.
Better not to make the Maori angry!!
defeated South Africa,
they gonna dance and poke tongues?
@@chrimbus71oh no!!😂
Too late. This Bill has destroyed so much Trust
@@chrimbus71na they would do more then that
Stand up strong NZ ❤❤❤
Proud ppl standing strong over there rights
Classic Guardian logic. Black and brown people standing strong are proud, white people standing strong are racists
There?
Indigenous rights AND equal rights can co exist.
you don't come to a party as the guest and try to impose your views. It is indigenous rights. Period!
I agree
@@patxilaskurain2184 So long as you uphold this for Europeans in European countries too
@@Manuscriptsdontburn1990 Tell Europe to stop exploiting Africa for its resources first and funding wars in the Middle East that displace the very people I'm sure you Europeans enjoy whining about
Respect the Treaty
How dare the citizens of New Zealand expect the Māori to be citizens of New Zealand! That’s craaaazy.
Its like when u owned a land, i go there and stay there…and after a while, i i told u.u and i are equal in this land. I bet you must be happy when i say that right…not to mention those land taken by state etc…i must be easy to understand if u were once the king of the land :D
Can any New Zealander explain what the treaty is about exactly and what’s the law their protesting ?
1. "The New Zealand Government has the right to govern all New Zealanders." What’s missing? The Māori text of Te Tiriti uses the term "kāwanatanga," which refers to governance but not in a way that overrides Māori tino rangatiratanga (absolute chieftainship). The English version, however, uses "sovereignty," which has historically caused confusion and breaches of the Treaty. This wording reinforces the idea of unilateral Crown authority, undermining the partnership and shared governance that Te Tiriti intended to establish. 2. "The New Zealand Government will honour all New Zealanders in the chieftainship of their land and all their property." What’s missing? This interpretation significantly alters the meaning of tino rangatiratanga. In Te Tiriti, Māori retained absolute authority over their lands, homes, and treasures (taonga). The bill’s wording suggests the government will merely "honour" this authority, which is far weaker than the original guarantee. It diminishes the distinct rights promised to Māori and ignores the cultural and historical significance of taonga. 3. "All New Zealanders are equal under the law with the same rights and duties." What’s missing? Equality is important, but this interpretation oversimplifies the nuanced promise of Te Tiriti. Article 3 guaranteed Māori the same rights as British subjects in addition to their existing rights as tangata whenua. The bill flattens this relationship, ignoring historical breaches and the inequities Māori have faced. True equity often requires tailored approaches to address systemic injustices, rather than a blanket approach that treats everyone as though the playing field is already level. The Bigger Issue: The bill centralizes the power to define Te Tiriti’s principles in the hands of politicians, excluding Māori voices from interpreting their own treaty rights. This undermines the spirit of Te Tiriti, which was founded on partnership, protection, and participation. By sidelining Māori input, the bill risks eroding the rights guaranteed under the Treaty and creating further division, rather than fostering the mutual respect and collaboration it promised.
They rushed through the Bull without consultation first, which is like blowing up your own house. And now they spreading lies.
Sorry, not Bull, I meant the Bill
Bottom line - Respect the Treaty
Would be funny to get NZ on one of those "Institutionally Racist" NGO/UN lists - as they legally don't treat all citizens equally.
what a dumb comment
0:52 Why were they so close to the train?
What does the bill actually entail?
that everyone is treated equally
thats it
@Gypsygeekfreak17 isn't everyone in NZ treated equally already?
@@Gypsygeekfreak17 Why are they against that then?
This is what they are protesting against.
Principle 3: (1) Everyone is equal before the law. (2) Everyone is entitled, without discrimination, to (a) the equal protection and equal benefit of the law; and (b) the equal enjoyment of the same fundamental human rights.
You are being so dishonest that it makes me puke! Shame on you!
@catfishGumbo
@@patxilaskurain2184
Did you really puked 🤮?
How are you feeling now?
Are Māori people far right ?
No, they are usually on their own tangent and not on your political divide. New Zealanders are usually pretty sound.
They are protesting against rich people. In the UK the right wing dont protest rich people but instead target poor people and victims of human trafficking based on race and religion.
Subtle but significant difference.
Nope..just right
Through a Western lens Anti colonisialisim is seen as leftist. But in the world of indigenous cultures I personally think it's leaning towards the right. It's necessary in fighting against colonial systems
It should be no crown in New Zealand all together.
Then that would mean the Treaty of Waitangi wouldn’t apply as the Crown is one signatory of it. Then what do you think would happen to Māori rights? Look what happened to indigenous rights after “The Crown” was “removed” from America.
Obviously Maori think their above everyone else because the revised bill is about equality for everyone in NZ.
What disingenuous statement. You know deep in your heart that this is not about equality. I really do not understand why you guys do this. You are guests in NZ, behave as such.
@@patxilaskurain2184 Didn't the Maori commit a genocide on the Moriori>>?? was that the Maori acting as guests?
@@patxilaskurain2184 kiss my
Obviously you are spouting unsubstantiated nonsense
@patxilaskurain2184 What is it about? Asking honestly. I want Europe for the Europeans so I'm very pro indigenous rights, but what is the objection here?
What do the reforms mean then?
Over 300,000 people
Rubbish!! Even the Guarniad wouldn’t come up we BS like that
All Walks of Life
HISTORY POWERFUL
Go Maori !!
I love hana so much such a beautiful soul you stand up proud lots of love from UK ♥️🇬🇧
Unresolved problems of historical legacy. These are hangovers of British Colonialism into the 21st century. Do not know what solution there is to such problems.
Time will be their worst enemy
Send the chinese in, they'll change all that
Maori treaty is not needed at all. Maori just want to expreß their problematic genes. Cannot accept that all peoople in NZ are equal.
Maori and the Crown are in partnership.
If you don't like it move back to England
Quit with self righteous virtue signaling BS. You have more rights than anyone else.
Respect the Treaty, it was allowed you to come into the country!!!
@raywheeler3135 tell the fighting aged men to leave England 🏴 first
Treaty Principles bill for Royal Assent!
Respect the Treaty
Respect the bill built on division by race and ancestry? Sounds choice if you’re from 1880!
This is woeful.
Didn't these guys commit a genocide on the Moriori>>?? and now they want to dance about human rights???
Didn't the white colonisers commit genocide against the Waikato and Taranaki tribes in 1863? By act of Parliament incidentally.
Moriori still thrive on the island of Rēhoku and are even in the protests . Stop trying to weaponise it and then try and deflect on māori. take a seat and hush.
cheap debatelord tactic, pretending to care about the Moriori but only in comment sections - we see right through you
I believe I have Moriori DNA in my genes.
colonizers commit genocide all the time - but that doesn't worry you because its not your people - yeah superficial caring about a people you know nothing about - just click bait from people like you
Nonsense
Respect the Treaty
Ardern is responsible for this stupidity
Ardern is not responsible for David Seymour's stupidity. This is blowing up in his face globally. Seymour is singlehandedly ruining NZ reputation
@@colb715 you'd be a Trump supporter if you were American
what a ignorant comment from someone whose mouth runs before their brain is into gear
Protect native rights!!!
The royal family from the United Kingdom should be ashamed, shame on use.
Shame on you. Accepting preferential treatment
Respect the Treaty
@@roseadams8003what do you mean?
@@kiatupato182 the bill was about treating everyone equally
P off
Who's the Treaty with - us? I think we should support their cause. What we're watching is a people resist colonisation that was started by us. We are the OGs of globalism and we should probably be in the vanguard of admitting that it has its faults.
Resist colonisation?? Hav you seen NZ you utter pleb
We feel its a smokescreen, they up to something and it isn't the self righteous virtue signaling Equal rights dribble they claiming. We all subject to the same laws in NZ
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Looks like they have retained alot of there culture.
Respect the Treaty
yes why shouldnt they - do you retain your culture? what a weird comment
@@bodybalanceU2 I remember having a dance with my marori friends when I was young. I really enjoyed it. Not my culture but I didn't taking park in there dance.
@danmacalpinbruce2555 If you care about equality of rights and responsibility... all who support the Bill need to do a couple important things first.
Over 26,000 Hectares of Maori Land locked in perpetual leases right now. Maori owners not allowed to charge Fair market rates and make a Fair income for over 100 years.
Thousands of acres of Maori Land on 99 year leases. Many not paying a Fair lease rate (many not paying anything) for decades now, which is reason enough to break lease. Some say 'but look at the improvements I have made' but you haven't paid a Fair Lease fee for decades, viewing it just as 'Maori Land'. Take the buildings and move onto other Land where you get Free or extremely low lease rates.
Fair Treatment? Equality? These Lease agreements are modern day scamming and theft over a span of 50,60,70,80,90,100 plus years.
Until these unequal Treatment of Maori get rectified, all who support the Bill are HYPOCRITES
@bodybalanceU2 no, I don't think it was meant to be a mean comment. Just a lot of white people shocked by how many Maori there are. We do kind of live in a segregated society(more because of rich/poor not race), so many white people have never seen that many Maori people before. Many do not have any Maori friends (they maybe have 1), and do not mix in circles with Maori in it.
Stop taking away their rights .
What rights are being taken away?
Respect the Treaty
KIA KAHA MAORI 👍
Maori are not indigenous to New Zealand.
@farlo90 colonisers always say that. 🙄 let me guess.... the Moriori
wanting to believe something that isnt true doesn't make it true - maori are the first people of nz whether you like it or not
@@bodybalanceU2 they also did slavary genocide and ate people
@@kodytreewoke is dead 😂 hilarious you loons
@@bodybalanceU2This is England 🏴 where us English have lived for thousands of years, when are we sending back the army of fighting aged men, NO WOMAN, NO CHILDREN 😂
Dont agree they protected you have rights but not to behead people despite cousins being māori .no extra rights above others .
Please do some deeper research. You are being hoodwinked
Respect the Treaty
Toitū Te Tiriti!
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Maori culture is very interesting and unique.
Respect the Treaty
Cry us a river, we couldn't give 2 hoots, we got a army of fighting aged men to thunk about here on our once great island first 😂
Loud an proud tangata whenua stand for our rights against this corrupt system enough is enough we tangata whenua have the last say
Māoris take back your country
Maoris 🇵🇸❤️💪
They stole it too remember
@@chrimbus71 From whom?
@@slammy333 other polynesians for starters
Do you think no one lived in new zealand until 1320, yet Australia has inhabitants for at least 50 000 years!
@@chrimbus71 Which polynesians? Is there any evidence to back this up?
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