What about Vanderbilt not reporting to try to hide the event? Completely illegal, yet zero consequences for them. Dont work for Vanderbilt is a big lesson here.
What have Americans got against organizing and STRIKING? If working conditions are truly so oppressive & unsafe (and they clearly are), you'd think you would choose to go on strike & demand better rather than just giving up your career. That only hurts you and the patients by permanently removing another nurse from the medical field. This is why nothing ever changes for workers in this country.
Problem is like racist comments are so Willy nilly from the Left so are labels from the Left FYI no decent human would ever back the Left for any reason
Ok sure. If you quit because of this then it’s no loss. If we as nurses want respect then we need to hold ourselves to a higher standard. Slippery slope- no. The nurse convicted basically gave the officials the nails to hang her to the cross. She denied being over worked, she denied fatigue, she felt supported by Vandy, she requested to be a preceptor to that nurse in orientation. She wouldn’t stop talking with NO lawyer present. She gave up her Miranda Rights. I’ve looked at several lawyers commenting who said the case never would have gone to trial if she had kept quiet and had a lawyer with her
My thought and prayers goes out to all the nurses. Everyone is saying that’s what the label is for. If you haven’t worked an 12-16 hour shift, tired ,caring for multiple patients and, dealing with some doctors who can be rude not all ,and dealing with the patients family members. I am not a nurse but I was a cna going to become a nurse but once the pandemic hit I choose to stay at home with my family and I found a job that is way less stressful. I truly appreciate all the nurses..❤️❤️❤️❤️
Exactly like these ladies are just publicly admitting they aren't paying attention to their training and this lady really just said 'so if the patient falls and dies am I going to be held accountable' like???? What? Why is that even being brought up we are trained for these situations 💩 to answer her question per her own training as a nurse - if the patient is competent and decides to ignore the orders and falls anyway - that is the fault of the patient - never the nurses.
As history has shown, we are definitely not surprised by how different demographics can be held accountable under similar situations. I wonder how many times physicians/surgeons have made horrible accidents that could have easily been avoided and the patient is affected for life or dies; however, no criminal charges were filed against them.
@@supertenor561 I wonder how many people were driving and made an error that cause someone a lot of injury, but no charges were filed. So I guess these nurses are going to turn in their drivers licenses since you can be held liable for what you do while driving? How about owning a home? If someone gets injured at your home you can be sued. So I guess they should by the same logic be homeless as well.
patient falling from giving the patient different medication is a total different thing. Why did she not look at bottle first too make sure got right one . My dr every Operation i had have everyone double check everything . Like my Allergies and all medications they going to use . He has operation room check list maybe all hospitals should do this . So sorry for family that lost there love one❤
No excuses because y’all expect everyone else to be held accountable for mistakes. Nurses are not the only people holding the hospital together. They just don’t recognize everyone else.
If nurses want to leave the profession, that is THEIR CHOICE & we respect their choice but the people have spoken & NOBODY (not even healthcare workers), are above the law. If one makes egregious errors that cost another human being their life, you will have to face the consequences. I know you people are overworked, understaffed, & tired. Problem is the healthcare system in this country has had things their way for so long that they don't like outside interference even when the outside information could help. You want things to get better for both you & your patients, start by getting rid of the pencil pushing MBA in the executive suite & replace them with a DOCTOR. Hospitals should be run by a doctor NOT an accountant. Regards, Raffie
@@Trump.is.a.nazzii I have to disagree. There are many many people that think like myself. This case is NO DIFFERENT than the Kim Potter case in Minnesota. Kim is the former Minnesota police officer who mistakenly drew her handgun instead of her taser during a traffic stop in which resulted in the death of Daunte Wright. In the heat of the moment, she made an HONEST MISTAKE that cost another human being their life, just like RaDonda Vaught. She was found guilty of manslaughter & will serve her sentence. They don't give drunk drivers a free pass either when they go out & accidentally kill an innocent bystander. Just because you're a healthcare worker doesn't mean you get a free pass when you make a critical error. This case was NOT about a simple mistake, but this was about eighteen instances of gross neglect. Whenever a medical error is made that in the end costs another human being their life, the individual responsible for the error should always be held legally accountable. In RaDonda's case a jury of her peers found her guilty. She should accept the verdict, serve her sentence, and get on with her life. Likewise, the medical community should move on by learning from this experience by making appropriate changes to the system to see that it doesn't happen to anyone else. In today's society, EVERYONE is being held accountable for their actions. NOBODY, gets a free pass anymore. Regards, Raffie
Ok so over 250k people die every year from medical error. Traditionally medical malpractice cases are tried as civil cases not criminal as these are Errors and not with intent. She made a mistake that cost a patient their life which happens to over 250,000 people a year. Medical professionals should not be criminally charged but rather a civil matter when mistakes occur that’s how it has been in the past. Why change now? Why for this one case out of 250k cases a year? Imagine sending 250k medical professionals to jail every year! Instead of blaming the individual how about fixing system errors that cause the deaths in the first place. Why was she even able to access a paralytic in the Pyxis? Why wasn’t it in a separate area in an RSI box? These are things other hospitals do to ensure this doesn’t occur. She already lost her job and license and cannot practice anymore. The family was paid off by the hospital and wasn’t looking to charge her. You have no idea how many times everyday nurses save patients from doctors errors. Many doctors have killed patients and are still practicing. As long as we keep blaming individuals and not looking to change system causes this will just continue.
@@mags4634 By your reasoning the cop that pulled her gun instead of her taser should get a pass because there was no intent. Same thing with the drunk driver. In today's society EVERYONE is being held accountable for their actions. "Many doctors have killed patients and are still practicing". That's because the healthcare system has for DECADES protected their own first & foremost. They are like a well oiled machine when an incident occurs. They do their damndest to keep it out of the media because once it gets there, there's nothing more they can do to protect their employee. If you want to "fix" the system, you have to take control away from the healthcare system. Something they will fight tooth & nail.
You do not know all the facts about this case. Tennessee Nursing Dept. stated, this Nurse should have never been charged with murder. Your opinion is only what you have heard from the news. The facts of this case were not reported by the News, and Vanderbilt was at fault with their medication system. Nashville’s DA does not convict criminals and releases them them back on the streets daily to continue to commit crimes. And Nashville’s DA implemented a Social Justice System in Metro Courts. Nashville DA should have spent his time convicting criminals in Nashville, instead of charging this Nurse with murder.
Yes if you're taking care of people you are responsible for them so yes if you forget to put up a bed rail and when you came in the room and put it down and someone fell out the bed and die should you be responsible for that absolutely 100%. That means you're not doing your job 💯👁️👁️👺🛑💩
Isn't all or at least most jobs can be held negligence responsible? Also there a level of responsibility, forgetting to put the bed rail up is different from injection drugs. Not everybody can inject drugs only doctor / nurse can do this job correct?
Nursing is getting too hard to work in the profession. One mistake and people are guilty. Anyone can have an adverse event. It’s short staffed all of the time. Once I found that I was having problems with serious emotional issues, I realized I could easily do something wrong. I wouldn’t get my meds in jail. So, I’m putting my license on retired. I cannot work anymore and am just going to cut my losses. I stopped being able to handle any stress at all. So, now I can’t do anything. I feel for that nurse. Her institution is more culpable than she is. I don’t see any of the higher ups going to jail. They have to find a scapegoat. If this doesn’t stop, you won’t even be able to get the least educated nurses to do bedside nursing. There will also be a severe shortage and more of this will happen. An able nurse has to rot in jail. There’s scammers out there. Why don’t they look for them and arrest them. Let this woman go home to her family.
Sorry, but if you can not read the label and the nurse gives that med, then that nurse is responsible. If the nurse is given the med or follows a a doctor's order, then the doctor is at fault. Better to quit your job because of too few nurses and poor working conditions, or better yet - go on strike. Then over what ANOTHER person did, not Conected to you personally. They are using this as an excuse to leave. Stay and IMPROVE the working conditions. That is what a DEADICATED human would do, that supposedly really LOVED their profession.
@robert graham even if the doctor ordered it you still have to question is this the appropriate drug and dosage for this patient- as the nurse. The nurse's responsibility does not end with the doctor's order.
Stay to improve nursing conditions?? Administration does not care!! Healthcare is a business that makes money n patients r like a cattle drive! It’s called GREED from Administration to Doctors and nurses do not get paid enough for all the stress, caring for patients n families bullying staff.
Forgetting to put a bedrail up is not the same thing as ignoring safeguards, several of them and not reading the med label. You are mixing g apples and oranges.
Good riddance to bad rubbish, mistakes certainly happen but no one is exempt from being held accountable for mistakes that cost others their lives. Don’t like it, find another profession.
"If I fail to put a bed rail up and my confused patient falls and ends up dying from that am I facing criminal charges?" Shouldn't you be? This attitude of astonishment that they as medical professionals should be held legally accountable for negligence is itself astonishing to me. Any medical professional quitting because they don't want to be held accountable for negligence SHOULD LEAVE.
The issue is that many of the healthcare systems do not provide optimal working conditions that would allow you to be the best. There's extremely high standards placed on nurses. Imagine going into work and your workload doubled and there's no assistant or help and if you made a mistake someone could die or become handicapped for life. I've never worked a job that only required that I be a nurse. We are responsible for our roles as well as making sure everyone else does their role too and if they don't, we (nurses) have to do their role as well. We are humans and humans make mistakes. I believe it's not an argument of not wanting to be held accountable but an argument of recognizing intent. Don't call into question my character and my nursing skills, if the corporations are not putting their practices under scrutiny as well. Staffing issues, lack of support, supplies, resources, etc. Nurses can't be everywhere and be everybody and do everything perfectly.
I have a doctor, two nurses and a nurse's aid in my family so I'm not completely ignorant of the profession. There is never an excuse for negligence. If the particular institution you are working for is is forcing you to work under conditions that are putting people's lives at risk you have the option and responsibility to stop working there and report what is happening, find more ethical employment, or go into a different field. Continuing to work there under those conditions is active participation in the situation. So if your negligence kills someone while you're choosing to work under those circumstances, then you are certainly responsible. That would be the case in any other job situation whose practices were putting people's lives at risk. The fact that this news piece is based on a case where the nurse made MULTIPLE negligent choices, and people in the profession would rather she get away with that than have to deal with any personal implications is outrageous to me. It takes a certain type of individual with extraordinary acuity to work in this profession successfully, and those who are able to have my respect, but it isn't for everyone. People who can't do it without harming or killing their patients should be doing something different, both for the sake of patients and for their own well being.
@@brt5273 you can have a doctor, 2 nurses and a nurses aide in your family and guess what? you can even add having a wife that's a RN and a mistress that just happens to be a clinical hospital pharmacist that you spend a lot of time with...it's irrelevant. Your statement, "If the particular institution you are working for is is forcing you to work under conditions that are putting people's lives at risk you have the option and responsibility to stop working there and report what is happening, find more ethical employment, or go into a different field." is ignorant and is exemplary of the thought processes of so many. I'm a rare breed. I've worked at a lot of facilities. I've bet I've worked at more places than that doctor, 2 nurses and nurses aide have worked combined. I've reported and I've stopped working at places that have proven to be very unsafe; however, it's a NATION WIDE SYSTEMIC ISSUE in the healthcare setting. You couldn't even fathom the amount of responsibility and weight that's placed on your shoulders based off of your response. 99% is an A. That 1% chance can cause fatality. If everyone got out of the field or stepped out into another area who felt the same way I did, who would take care of you or your loved ones should they all of a sudden require acute care? I bet that aforementioned statement would be redacted so fast. Multiple negligent choices were made on both ends; however, the nurse is the one who is being used as a scapegoat. The hospital is culpable as well. Would you rather just that sole nurse be punished and branded as a criminal? or Do you want the facility to own up to its intentional shortcomings and improve so that others don't do what she did as well? My argument is not that she shouldn't take responsibility. Both should.
@@supertenor561 Whether or not the hospital bears criminal responsibility for the negligence of one of their staff is a separate issue. If you're too WEAK to take personal responsibility for your own actions and do the job without injuring and killing people because you cannot discern your ability has been compromised by the circumstances you are working in, then go shovel manure for a living, because no sane person will want you treating them.
Soon as you quit and leave your job, your replacement is thanking you as you clear your locker or desk. Nursing 101 we're taught that we are accountable for any mistakes made . This situation would not make me wanna quit my job but would make me more aware of what is expected 🤔 of me even the thought of going back for a refresher course doesn't seem like a bad idea. I pray for the real victim here that 74yr patient some have forgotten about in this report.
Of course!…… For the ones that are judging the nurse but not the Hospitals! Can you do this type of job? Can you even survive in this type of set up?, if this was the only option for you to work at, can you handle the pressure!?!?!? Go ahead and try to be a nurse and then we can talk! AH’s!!!!!
Nurses are trained and trained again to FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES! We are told over and over and over again to double and triple check with superiors if we are unsure of something - especially if you don't know what kind of medication you're giving to a patient. 💩 I'm disgusted at these other nurses so publicly admitting on tv that they don't want to get in trouble for their negligence toward their own parients.
Yeah, OK !! Fact : if you perform your job as an RN by the book. Do everything as it is supposed to be done, You will never get out of work! Ten years ago, when I started as an RN I worked afternoon shift 3pm - 1130pm I would literally not get out of work until sunrise the following morning!! With the current workload of up to 36 or more patients this kind of 💩is inevitable!!
I've always said this: "Not everybody is cut out to be in the Medical Field. Patients arent Guinea pigs, so please train yourself well, Not at the expense of some innocent persons life. . On the prescribing of Medications? Check double check, triple check . And maybe ask another nurse to cover that med. check... but that said, I've known and have met PLENTY of well trained professional and experienced Nurses that have gone far and beyond their call of duty and Don't deserve to be overworked, disrespected or underpaid. . Lets support ALL our healthcare providers especially those that gave their lives during the pandemic. Those are true and dedicated medical professionals.. indeed!
To all the nurses who quit.... we are happy for you to leave. Forgetting to put a bedrail up is altogether different than injecting lethal poison (lethal poison that was labeled mind you) into someone, because you dont care enough to take the necessary measures to verify that the substitution medication is indeed safe for your patient. Good riddance to every nurse who quit. By quitting, they show their true character of entitlement and unprofessionalism
What about Vanderbilt not reporting to try to hide the event? Completely illegal, yet zero consequences for them. Dont work for Vanderbilt is a big lesson here.
Everyone who tried to excuse her behavior is absolutely fucking ridiculous.
What have Americans got against organizing and STRIKING? If working conditions are truly so oppressive & unsafe (and they clearly are), you'd think you would choose to go on strike & demand better rather than just giving up your career. That only hurts you and the patients by permanently removing another nurse from the medical field. This is why nothing ever changes for workers in this country.
It's refreshing to see nurses supporting other nurses. In the UK, nurses hate each other. Also, look up what they did to Amin Abdullah
Labels are made for a reason. Accountability counts
Problem is like racist comments are so Willy nilly from the Left so are labels from the Left FYI no decent human would ever back the Left for any reason
Ok sure. If you quit because of this then it’s no loss. If we as nurses want respect then we need to hold ourselves to a higher standard. Slippery slope- no. The nurse convicted basically gave the officials the nails to hang her to the cross. She denied being over worked, she denied fatigue, she felt supported by Vandy, she requested to be a preceptor to that nurse in orientation. She wouldn’t stop talking with NO lawyer present. She gave up her Miranda Rights. I’ve looked at several lawyers commenting who said the case never would have gone to trial if she had kept quiet and had a lawyer with her
I'm an RN. You have to be NUTS to work like that. I left too.
Yea, I'd never leave my career because of a mistake someone else made.
My thought and prayers goes out to all the nurses. Everyone is saying that’s what the label is for. If you haven’t worked an 12-16 hour shift, tired ,caring for multiple patients and, dealing with some doctors who can be rude not all ,and dealing with the patients family members. I am not a nurse but I was a cna going to become a nurse but once the pandemic hit I choose to stay at home with my family and I found a job that is way less stressful. I truly appreciate all the nurses..❤️❤️❤️❤️
I have seen pharmacists label medications incorrectly. Why don’t they get sent to prison??
@@latina_1716 yes, and I've caught a few of those errors before the bag was even hung....
Well what do you expect!!!!!!!???
Nurses are replaceable. You are not making a change by leaving your profession. The way they see it, might as well remove the bad apples now.
There's a nursing shortage though but I agree with u as well
Exactly like these ladies are just publicly admitting they aren't paying attention to their training and this lady really just said 'so if the patient falls and dies am I going to be held accountable' like???? What? Why is that even being brought up we are trained for these situations 💩 to answer her question per her own training as a nurse - if the patient is competent and decides to ignore the orders and falls anyway - that is the fault of the patient - never the nurses.
As a retired nurse I support you 100%.
Everyone can be held accountable for their actions in a court of law.
They act all surprised 😮
As history has shown, we are definitely not surprised by how different demographics can be held accountable under similar situations. I wonder how many times physicians/surgeons have made horrible accidents that could have easily been avoided and the patient is affected for life or dies; however, no criminal charges were filed against them.
@@supertenor561 same thing can be said about a nurse. Wonder how many times they made a life changing mistake and no charges were filed.
@@supertenor561 I wonder how many people were driving and made an error that cause someone a lot of injury, but no charges were filed.
So I guess these nurses are going to turn in their drivers licenses since you can be held liable for what you do while driving?
How about owning a home? If someone gets injured at your home you can be sued. So I guess they should by the same logic be homeless as well.
patient falling from giving the patient different medication is a total different thing. Why did she not look at bottle first too make sure got right one . My dr every Operation i had have everyone double check everything . Like my Allergies and all medications they going to use . He has operation room check list maybe all hospitals should do this . So sorry for family that lost there love one❤
No excuses because y’all expect everyone else to be held accountable for mistakes. Nurses are not the only people holding the hospital together. They just don’t recognize everyone else.
If nurses want to leave the profession, that is THEIR CHOICE & we respect their choice but the people have spoken & NOBODY (not even healthcare workers), are above the law. If one makes egregious errors that cost another human being their life, you will have to face the consequences.
I know you people are overworked, understaffed, & tired. Problem is the healthcare system in this country has had things their way for so long that they don't like outside interference even when the outside information could help.
You want things to get better for both you & your patients, start by getting rid of the pencil pushing MBA in the executive suite & replace them with a DOCTOR.
Hospitals should be run by a doctor NOT an accountant.
Regards,
Raffie
^^^nobody else think like this please this guy is wrong
@@Trump.is.a.nazzii I have to disagree. There are many many people that think like myself.
This case is NO DIFFERENT than the Kim Potter case in Minnesota. Kim is the former Minnesota police officer who mistakenly drew her handgun instead of her taser during a traffic stop in which resulted in the death of Daunte Wright.
In the heat of the moment, she made an HONEST MISTAKE that cost another human being their life, just like RaDonda Vaught.
She was found guilty of manslaughter & will serve her sentence.
They don't give drunk drivers a free pass either when they go out & accidentally kill an innocent bystander.
Just because you're a healthcare worker doesn't mean you get a free pass when you make a critical error.
This case was NOT about a simple mistake, but this was about eighteen instances of gross neglect.
Whenever a medical error is made that in the end costs another human being their life, the individual responsible for the error should always be held legally accountable.
In RaDonda's case a jury of her peers found her guilty. She should accept the verdict, serve her sentence, and get on with her life.
Likewise, the medical community should move on by learning from this experience by making appropriate changes to the system to see that it doesn't happen to anyone else.
In today's society, EVERYONE is being held accountable for their actions. NOBODY, gets a free pass anymore.
Regards,
Raffie
Ok so over 250k people die every year from medical error. Traditionally medical malpractice cases are tried as civil cases not criminal as these are Errors and not with intent. She made a mistake that cost a patient their life which happens to over 250,000 people a year. Medical professionals should not be criminally charged but rather a civil matter when mistakes occur that’s how it has been in the past. Why change now? Why for this one case out of 250k cases a year? Imagine sending 250k medical professionals to jail every year! Instead of blaming the individual how about fixing system errors that cause the deaths in the first place. Why was she even able to access a paralytic in the Pyxis? Why wasn’t it in a separate area in an RSI box? These are things other hospitals do to ensure this doesn’t occur. She already lost her job and license and cannot practice anymore. The family was paid off by the hospital and wasn’t looking to charge her. You have no idea how many times everyday nurses save patients from doctors errors. Many doctors have killed patients and are still practicing. As long as we keep blaming individuals and not looking to change system causes this will just continue.
@@mags4634 By your reasoning the cop that pulled her gun instead of her taser should get a pass because there was no intent. Same thing with the drunk driver.
In today's society EVERYONE is being held accountable for their actions.
"Many doctors have killed patients and are still practicing".
That's because the healthcare system has for DECADES protected their own first & foremost. They are like a well oiled machine when an incident occurs. They do their damndest to keep it out of the media because once it gets there, there's nothing more they can do to protect their employee.
If you want to "fix" the system, you have to take control away from the healthcare system. Something they will fight tooth & nail.
You do not know all the facts about this case. Tennessee Nursing Dept. stated, this Nurse should have never been charged with murder. Your opinion is only what you have heard from the news. The facts of this case were not reported by the News, and Vanderbilt was at fault with their medication system. Nashville’s DA does not convict criminals and releases them them back on the streets daily to continue to commit crimes. And Nashville’s DA implemented a Social Justice System in Metro Courts. Nashville DA should have spent his time convicting criminals in Nashville, instead of charging this Nurse with murder.
Thank God, this one verdict has got rid of a lot of bad nurses.
👏👏👏
Yes if you're taking care of people you are responsible for them so yes if you forget to put up a bed rail and when you came in the room and put it down and someone fell out the bed and die should you be responsible for that absolutely 100%. That means you're not doing your job 💯👁️👁️👺🛑💩
I’ve never seen a more ignorant comment.
Isn't all or at least most jobs can be held negligence responsible? Also there a level of responsibility, forgetting to put the bed rail up is different from injection drugs. Not everybody can inject drugs only doctor / nurse can do this job correct?
there are now medication aides, physician assistant's, medical assistants, maybe dental hygienist?, pharmacists(i believe) that can all admin drugs..
Nursing is getting too hard to work in the profession. One mistake and people are guilty. Anyone can have an adverse event. It’s short staffed all of the time. Once I found that I was having problems with serious emotional issues, I realized I could easily do something wrong. I wouldn’t get my meds in jail. So, I’m putting my license on retired. I cannot work anymore and am just going to cut my losses. I stopped being able to handle any stress at all. So, now I can’t do anything.
I feel for that nurse. Her institution is more culpable than she is. I don’t see any of the higher ups going to jail. They have to find a scapegoat. If this doesn’t stop, you won’t even be able to get the least educated nurses to do bedside nursing. There will also be a severe shortage and more of this will happen. An able nurse has to rot in jail. There’s scammers out there. Why don’t they look for them and arrest them. Let this woman go home to her family.
Sorry, but if you can not read the label and the nurse gives that med, then that nurse is responsible. If the nurse is given the med or follows a a doctor's order, then the doctor is at fault.
Better to quit your job because of too few nurses and poor working conditions, or better yet - go on strike. Then over what ANOTHER person did, not Conected to you personally.
They are using this as an excuse to leave.
Stay and IMPROVE the working conditions. That is what a DEADICATED human would do, that supposedly really LOVED their profession.
@robert graham even if the doctor ordered it you still have to question is this the appropriate drug and dosage for this patient- as the nurse. The nurse's responsibility does not end with the doctor's order.
Stay to improve nursing conditions?? Administration does not care!! Healthcare is a business that makes money n patients r like a cattle drive! It’s called GREED from Administration to Doctors and nurses do not get paid enough for all the stress, caring for patients n families bullying staff.
Bedrail = wrong medication properly labeled...................🤔🤔🤔
Forgetting to put a bedrail up is not the same thing as ignoring safeguards, several of them and not reading the med label. You are mixing g apples and oranges.
Good riddance to bad rubbish, mistakes certainly happen but no one is exempt from being held accountable for mistakes that cost others their lives. Don’t like it, find another profession.
"If I fail to put a bed rail up and my confused patient falls and ends up dying from that am I facing criminal charges?" Shouldn't you be? This attitude of astonishment that they as medical professionals should be held legally accountable for negligence is itself astonishing to me. Any medical professional quitting because they don't want to be held accountable for negligence SHOULD LEAVE.
Don't worry at least 12 other fools think like you
The issue is that many of the healthcare systems do not provide optimal working conditions that would allow you to be the best. There's extremely high standards placed on nurses. Imagine going into work and your workload doubled and there's no assistant or help and if you made a mistake someone could die or become handicapped for life. I've never worked a job that only required that I be a nurse. We are responsible for our roles as well as making sure everyone else does their role too and if they don't, we (nurses) have to do their role as well. We are humans and humans make mistakes. I believe it's not an argument of not wanting to be held accountable but an argument of recognizing intent. Don't call into question my character and my nursing skills, if the corporations are not putting their practices under scrutiny as well. Staffing issues, lack of support, supplies, resources, etc. Nurses can't be everywhere and be everybody and do everything perfectly.
I have a doctor, two nurses and a nurse's aid in my family so I'm not completely ignorant of the profession. There is never an excuse for negligence. If the particular institution you are working for is is forcing you to work under conditions that are putting people's lives at risk you have the option and responsibility to stop working there and report what is happening, find more ethical employment, or go into a different field. Continuing to work there under those conditions is active participation in the situation. So if your negligence kills someone while you're choosing to work under those circumstances, then you are certainly responsible. That would be the case in any other job situation whose practices were putting people's lives at risk. The fact that this news piece is based on a case where the nurse made MULTIPLE negligent choices, and people in the profession would rather she get away with that than have to deal with any personal implications is outrageous to me. It takes a certain type of individual with extraordinary acuity to work in this profession successfully, and those who are able to have my respect, but it isn't for everyone. People who can't do it without harming or killing their patients should be doing something different, both for the sake of patients and for their own well being.
@@brt5273 you can have a doctor, 2 nurses and a nurses aide in your family and guess what? you can even add having a wife that's a RN and a mistress that just happens to be a clinical hospital pharmacist that you spend a lot of time with...it's irrelevant. Your statement, "If the particular institution you are working for is is forcing you to work under conditions that are putting people's lives at risk you have the option and responsibility to stop working there and report what is happening, find more ethical employment, or go into a different field." is ignorant and is exemplary of the thought processes of so many. I'm a rare breed. I've worked at a lot of facilities. I've bet I've worked at more places than that doctor, 2 nurses and nurses aide have worked combined. I've reported and I've stopped working at places that have proven to be very unsafe; however, it's a NATION WIDE SYSTEMIC ISSUE in the healthcare setting. You couldn't even fathom the amount of responsibility and weight that's placed on your shoulders based off of your response. 99% is an A. That 1% chance can cause fatality. If everyone got out of the field or stepped out into another area who felt the same way I did, who would take care of you or your loved ones should they all of a sudden require acute care? I bet that aforementioned statement would be redacted so fast. Multiple negligent choices were made on both ends; however, the nurse is the one who is being used as a scapegoat. The hospital is culpable as well. Would you rather just that sole nurse be punished and branded as a criminal? or Do you want the facility to own up to its intentional shortcomings and improve so that others don't do what she did as well? My argument is not that she shouldn't take responsibility. Both should.
@@supertenor561 Whether or not the hospital bears criminal responsibility for the negligence of one of their staff is a separate issue. If you're too WEAK to take personal responsibility for your own actions and do the job without injuring and killing people because you cannot discern your ability has been compromised by the circumstances you are working in, then go shovel manure for a living, because no sane person will want you treating them.
It can happen to anybody.. Nurses has a lot on her shoulders..
Short staffing is the root cause !!
Soon as you quit and leave your job, your replacement is thanking you as you clear your locker or desk. Nursing 101 we're taught that we are accountable for any mistakes made . This situation would not make me wanna quit my job but would make me more aware of what is expected 🤔 of me even the thought of going back for a refresher course doesn't seem like a bad idea. I pray for the real victim here that 74yr patient some have forgotten about in this report.
Of course!……
For the ones that are judging the nurse but not the Hospitals! Can you do this type of job? Can you even survive in this type of set up?, if this was the only option for you to work at, can you handle the pressure!?!?!?
Go ahead and try to be a nurse and then we can talk!
AH’s!!!!!
Say it louder for the people in the back!
AMEN
Nurses are trained and trained again to FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES! We are told over and over and over again to double and triple check with superiors if we are unsure of something - especially if you don't know what kind of medication you're giving to a patient. 💩 I'm disgusted at these other nurses so publicly admitting on tv that they don't want to get in trouble for their negligence toward their own parients.
Yeah, OK !! Fact : if you perform your job as an RN by the book. Do everything as it is supposed to be done, You will never get out of work! Ten years ago, when I started as an RN I worked afternoon shift 3pm - 1130pm I would literally not get out of work until sunrise the following morning!! With the current workload of up to 36 or more patients this kind of 💩is inevitable!!
I've always said this: "Not everybody is cut out to be in the Medical Field. Patients arent Guinea pigs, so please train yourself well, Not at the expense of some innocent persons life. . On the prescribing of Medications? Check double check, triple check . And maybe ask another nurse to cover that med. check... but that said, I've known and have met PLENTY of well trained professional and experienced Nurses that have gone far and beyond their call of duty and Don't deserve to be overworked, disrespected or underpaid. . Lets support ALL our healthcare providers especially those that gave their lives during the pandemic. Those are true and dedicated medical professionals.. indeed!
What pandemic?
To all the nurses who quit.... we are happy for you to leave.
Forgetting to put a bedrail up is altogether different than injecting lethal poison (lethal poison that was labeled mind you) into someone, because you dont care enough to take the necessary measures to verify that the substitution medication is indeed safe for your patient.
Good riddance to every nurse who quit. By quitting, they show their true character of entitlement and unprofessionalism
Just make nurses cops, too.
Oh we really need you! Oh by the way, you’re on your own!
So killing a patient is ok.
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So she wants to cover up her mistakes good riddance
Wow😮It's saddening to see how many comments bash the nurses. This profession is toxic, and nurses eat their own.
Jury of Fools