I enjoy your commentaries they spark a lot of thought provoking debate. Please keep honing your skill. Here’s my take on your video from today. If it is impossible for developed countries with vast amounts of resources to prevent illegal immigration, what more do you think South Africa can do to prevent illegal immigration when it is coming from all over Africa. Yes there is a need to overhaul the customs and border control of South Africa, but the bigger issue is for these countries to fix their economic and political instability. South Africa should not be compelled to provide safe Harbour for the failures of other governments. Illegal immigration puts a strain on social resources such as housing education, sanitation and healthcare. Moreover, illegal immigrants are often paid under the table and do not contribute a fair share to the tax revenues needed to provide the very same social services they utilize. It is important to view this issue with an objective not subjective mindset. Documentation of illegal immigrants will not solve the problem of under employment which often results from illegal immigrants who are willing to accept unreasonably low wages. Of course employers are prone to employing illegal immigrants. It is to their economic advantage, but it does not benefit the locals who cannot survive on a subsistence living wage. So the narrative should change it is not that South Africans do not want to work or choose to be unemployed. It is more so that they want to be paid a living wage that equates to the cost of their labor and provides them a decent standard of living. What if the roles were reversed would we be willing to accept illegal immigrants within our boarders? Food for thought…..
Wow you ate very wise and you raised valid points you have just given me an idea on what to discuss in my next video I appreciate you thanks so much 🙏This is what we call a discussion I appreciate comments like this whereby my mind is opened further to think and see things from other perspectives. I’m definitely taking a screenshot of this comment and will research more on this for our next discussion
@nomah good question. 1. Political stability, suffering with peace is 💯 % better than no peace with lots of wealthy. 2. Rule of law and human rights will cause people to stay in their countries. 3. Economical growth people can't go look for greener pastures when the economy is growing, they is at least hope for job creation when the economy is growing. 4. Stop corruption, in the home affairs, law enforcement, and in the government, you may build a fence, put solidiers whatever, where people are they is always corruption one way or the other. 5. Respecting the will of the people their votes, their choice of leadership must be respected. Politicians must be taught the definitions of the word democracy opposited to dictorship. Voting is the constitutional rights of the citizens that is their only voice of hope. What we are seeing in other countries changes of the constitution by politicians not the citizens to silence citizens, this breaking the will and rights of people. Politicians must put laws that protect their citizens not themselves and their elite political minority favorites groups. Thus Dictorship. Autocratic type of leadership.
South African government has had to spend R4 billion to provide basic education to “illegal immigrant children” in Gauteng province. This was supposedly revealed by Panyaza Lesufi, Gauteng's education boss, during a parliamentary committee meeting. Just imagine how much is spent by the whole country and we are not counting the money spent on health and others.
We gave the GNU a chance, we will do our mass deportation if they fail too. In absence of the law, the people shall govern. When the people govern, no foreigner is going to enter SA illegally.
He said lawlessness cannot happen under his watch, that's Minister of home affairs. Instead he is gonna intensify and ask for more budget and also work with other departments like SANDF, Police and public infrastructure...
@@phumzilensele302 🤣🤣🤣We know S.A. CITIZENS will never vote for Eff, even Eff members running from them party, Juju needs votes.... Since it's taxpayers money WE WILL DEPORT FOREIGNERS OR THE ANC WILL JUST LOOT THE MONEY...
Its our money not Zimbabweans so be concerned about what made you to flee Zimbabwe undocumented instead. And every person who is deported is documented as undesirable by HOME AFFAIRS so what more documentation do you want now?
Housing illegal immigrants Costa more when they utilize our resources like health and so forth it doesn't matter how much it costs..no one should break our laws for the sake of costs...Im glad Minister said he will intensity these deportation.
@@josephkokisi371 nope, we want them gone. Our infrastructure is also compromised. They cant pay for that. Beside these pple are selling tomatos and some are unemployed how will they afford the service's?
@@josephkokisi371 that attitude it's what makes us sininyanye..its that attitude awaz ukuthi Ama Zimbabweans...especially illegal ones..cross the border just to give birth in country and go back...with whose tax money..
Lol" it's my freedom of speech" ,,I like how you guyz don't say a single thing to protest your government back home but in South Africa you have voices loud enough to irritate the entire South Africa
Intruders love S.A. BUSINESS!!!! Why Don't you GO HELP YOUR PEOPLE IN ZIMBABWE EATING ELEPHANT'S. Who's money is it , THE TAXPAYERS MONEY!!!!! CHIDIMMA'S mother also said Juju was standing with them. DHA OFFICIALLY CANCELLED THEIR ID'S AND PASSPORTS.
umoyo wakho mubi kakhulu yoooooo izim ayiqedanga imali ulamanga i nageria &Congo lamazwe asekideni wena nje uzonda isizwe sikamabo lasika mzilikazi njalo ezm into oyidla lapha lezim ikhona wena nje unonya imali ayidlaliswanga cha akunjalo isebenze kahle uma bebothswa kufanele babuyiselwe Kubo uzohlupheka unga buka abantu bezim uzojika ube ngunyawupe asila ndaba lawe thina we don't care about your useless thing
How much has been stolen here in south Africa when you worry about 50 million they've failed to create jobs for south Africans in 30 years what difference Wil this 50 million make give the minister some space after all it's our money not Zimbabwean
People must respect country laws, deportation I think those countries must be billed because they are failing their citizens now SA must carry the weight which is unfair.
Create jobs for South Africans...what jobs ...Those jobs are going to be filled by Zimbabweans...Malawians as cheap laborours..There must be strict boarder control...The Anc made it easier for everybody crossing the boarders..now its out of control..esp the Zimbabweans as it is easy for them...Creating the jobs is useless..even the army is corrupt..l saw them taking bribes in one of the documentary..emagine crossing the boarder to Zimbabwe without documents l will be arrested on the spot..
It is costly but just a drop when it is compared with the costs of having them around. How many tar roads do they walk on which end up with those huge potholes? Did you hear that almost 60% of prisoners at modderbee are foreigners?
Tatiro. Listen sister.when those foreigners are here wether legal or illegally. Our government spent much especially on health. That money of deportation Is just a drop in an Ocean.
@@ThabisoBokaba-v7p there is no money the government is spending on health,we are paying money my brother, just to have a file 400 rands , consultations with the doctor for a foreigner is 250 rands , operation before you go to theatre 1500 ,I have all the summary of all these expenses, from my brother I have been taking to hospital here in south Africa,so don't tell lies , check what is happening in your facilities, as south Africans are paying but not as much as we are paying, they paying 50 rands for the file ,100 rands for consultations on follow ups .
@@AdmireMasora-n8git's just for formality no one can be denied the right to health care due to lack of finances,it's unconstitutional and the foreigners knows it and takes advantage of this constitutional law,they don't pay a cent maybe those who can afford are paying
Your so-called “solution “ is rather simplistic to “serious “ problems documenting every economic migrant from your country is not possible without bankrupting SA resources are limited, already our government has run out of money just about every department has had budget cuts, what are fellow Zimbabweans to do, crime already Zimbabweans have overrun our healthcare at least 40% of patients in government hospitals are foreigners, don’t you think this will create “resentment ??
On the concept of documenting foreigners it means foreigners applying valid visas and permit. The government doesn’t run any loss but they gain because these foreigners to apply for visa they pay huge amounts of money
I would like to disagree with you on this one Tariro. Each an every department has a budget. We cant take home affairs budget and use it in employment or small business enterprise etc.... i Believe that 50 million or whatever amout is meant for home affairs issues. If they decide to hire more immigration officials, up to them. If they see it necessary to deport, good for them. Issue of deported foreigners coming back through back doors that should be dealt with by SANDF as they are the ones who must protect us from terrorists and people not coming through ports of entry. So my view is, if a person come through Limpopo river they must just meet SANDF. Thats permanent solution
Thanks so much sis these are valid points you raised have enlightened me. I respect you for this ❤️❤️❤️yes I love positive criticism like this and I know we cannot always agree
We want to come legally, but we can't afford the passport It's very expensive, and there is nothing you can express in Zimbabwe , intimidations, torture, and duress is the order of the day to those who want to raise their heads, remember we don't have democracy in Zimbabwe it's dictatorship.
@@AdmireMasora-n8g Understand and heartbreaking situation, but you understand the frustration of SA govt with illegality of foreigners which will also take the same govt to court.
@@RhodaMaloka I understand this my brother,it is not good at all, but here we are,we are crying for help , because where we come from there is danger,we can't stay there, that is why we are asking,at least for a positive solutions that will not have negative impacts on both parties.
@@RhodaMaloka sorry my sister,I never checked carefully on your name, but we anyway I enjoyed this conversation with you,we teach each other the way to embrace, collaborate and cooperate with each other,even though we are not from the same womb, but the fact that we are human being, and we never know where we are going to lend one of these days, makes us love one another and have positive solutions all the time.thanks my dear for the correction.
I personally think the south African government must approach the government concerned on the immigration issue, 1. Why are they running away from their countries? That is the problem that need to be addressed at diplomatic level. 2. The government must come up with temporary newable documents maybe for two or three years consecutively just as a way of legalizing them so that they are traceable.
@@khosinimsebele7835wonderful my brother,this will reduce unnecessary expenditures ,by deporting people who are coming back in large numbers after deportation, remember if you deport one he will come back with 5 people because he now knows the way to cross,the situation especially for Zimbabwe everyone knows,it started with the abuse of human rights which is still existing till now, and this wrecked a war between the government and it's people, which is still going ahead because the leadership is unkind to it's people.That is why you have seen us landed in south Africa to seek protection, and food to put on the table, but otherwise what you have commented is so wonderful for the sake of reduce some hardship foreigners are facing in this country,we are not staying with stable and calm hearts , police are now taking advantage of the situation,even in hospitals things are not easy for the foreigners.
@@khosinimsebele7835no ways they will end up taking government to court just like ZEP are doing now,their permits were given out of pity but when the government announced that they're canceling them they went court claiming they've been living in South Africa for more 5⃣ years so according to South Africa they should be given citizenship,even though those permits clearly mentioned that they will not get citizenship,Anc will never make such mistake again,the only solution is to deport them and frustrate them until they leave,no employer would want to hire a person for 2 days after they disappear because they got deported or hiding because police are searching for illegal immigrants,they will leave on their own by then it would be too late cause they would have wasted their life in SA with nothing to show off
Even if they spend a lot doesn't meter the country loossing too much already children ar dying her hospital crime its a lot we ar tired of keeping foreign ar not documening they do lot of things
We have Mphofu in Eastern Cape also Mphofu in Bulawayo Zimbabwe there father is 1 vs a white guy u don't know even to call his name ,and u find foreigner in Mphofu vs Mphofu
Thank you my sister fr address this issues n i saw alot of south African make a comment of this foreigners the main problem is home affairs even upto now the r not open fr people's from outside to the permitted is very sad n u know the big problem south African face now b cus what we doing to foreigners for past 10 year's we r scared going out site countries to work before we r going to our continent countries to work like Ghana . Serial Leone. Cameroon. n more just b cuz our people doing we don't wan go anymore that why unployment rate is going high
SA issues affect me the lord because I live here. I can’t really discuss much about Zim coz I’m not on ground I hope you understand. For example if they say there is Corona in SA right now it affects me coz I live here, so same applies with Zim affairs I’m not on ground so I don’t have first hand information
@@Tariromtinthat's just an excuse sister in the time of internet it's easy to just Google or search on other social media to find any news of every country around the world,most of the information you're sharing you get it from internet or watching news 😮
Go Home and Help Us with this influx, Help your Government To Help Us, I can See You Have Solutions for SA..Go and Suggest to Mnangagwa. Leave Ramaphosa. Understand you Are an Immigrant. You are too comfortable , do You know Who you Are? Do you even Love your country? Can't You see Problems in Your country, Your Country needs young blood like to fix it. Go Home.
Tariro I think it's the right time for you to go back to Zimbabwe and fix your country it seems as you're concerned about the South African issues please go back to Zimbabwe to fight Mnangagwa so that he can create jobs for your fellow Zimbabweans
Since south African citizen wanna take over spaza shop. If you give each citizen 250K to open spaza I strongly believe all Nalede wil occupied all spaza for Nalede
But what's that has to do with you at least their finger prints are on our database, I think this is necessary when they are arrested again they will be arrested and rendered undesirable
But this again is a disadvantage to the state coz prisons are full and more people IT’s burdens the government it’s over millions of undocumented foreigners
if ihla ngemilenze niyibalile Yona deportation will create the Jobs it self kade idliwa ii millions zihla ngemilenze nithulile now that and this sukaaaa Sanusi fundekela
The people are coming back in large numbers,and those officials who are deporting the foreigners are the ones who are coming back with them,a good example of another guy who is working at my company,he was deported in August after dropping at the border gate , the officials who transported him requested him 1500 to come back with him, African boarders are porous, even if you put stringent measures they will pass,our passport is very expensive that is why people are moving in and out of south Africa, without passport they can't afford it ,5000rands for a passport it is so ridiculous, how can we have proper papers, when things are bad in our own country, where we are not given the opportunity to articulate our rights.Boarder management are human beings, they need money and a goat always graze where it is tied on.
@@AdmireMasora-n8g it doesn't matter we deport and atleast when you are caught your details are captured and prospects of getting a visa or permit in South Africa gets even little if no all because you're breaking the law..they must intensify these deprtations and inspections at work places.
@@RaphaelNgwenya-cc1dm this issue has been there for decades my brother, it's not starting now,and it's consuming a lot of money in the south Africans,I would reasonably think documenting these people is the best,no one is going to be after them demanding bribes,no deportation all the time which is which is straining the government budget,no official that will leave their offices going after Foreigners all the time instead of doing something profitable for the country, remember they are not only employed to do one task of chasing after Foreigners ,I am working around African countries,I go everywhere,and I think iam adding value to the economy of each and every country I am going, and iam not doing it for my family only, but to embrace others African countries as my brothers and sisters,I love them,I don't hesitate to give them my knowledge,in south Africa, Botswana, Zambia, Angola, Cameroon, Namibia Mozambique, when I get there,I am known of the good work and knowledge I am giving,no one will ask me where I come from,as I am speaking I will be in south Africa, for some tasks that needs to be done before December that will benefit south Africa and I am willing to do it with all my heart, this is why God gave me the knowledge of transforming the life of other people . let's embrace each other peacefully in the armpits of the law, and with the great sense of humanity rather than punishing and heatred, other countries are, people are dying that is why they are running away,no one wants to wait for death,so I understand what you are saying, but put yourself in the shoes of these people and assume yourself as Zimbabwean, Nigerian or Congolese,and inside of that country physically,you would see why they they are running away.
It's amazing because you foreigners are always talking about South Africans,why don't you tell the world about your country news.South African politics or what ever is non of your business.now it's not only that you are eating our tax money it's a lot.Just back off
Legalize criminals ?You must be out of your damn mind.People must be vetted before they come here .No wonder our crime is off the roof .We must deal with our borders ,build a wall if we have to .Come here if you only have valid papers and skills .Not waiters or maids.
@@sandilesangoni8172 I am saying this bcos she's always in our business. Nothing she can report from her country. You won't even understand how annoying it is. They will tell you about human rights on the other side abuse kids and unlive them. COWARDS
South African government has had to spend R4 billion to provide basic education to “illegal immigrant children” in Gauteng province. This was supposedly revealed by Panyaza Lesufi, Gauteng's education boss, during a parliamentary committee meeting. Just imagine how much is spent by the whole country and we are not counting the money spent on health and others.
I enjoy your commentaries they spark a lot of thought provoking debate. Please keep honing your skill. Here’s my take on your video from today. If it is impossible for developed countries with vast amounts of resources to prevent illegal immigration, what more do you think South Africa can do to prevent illegal immigration when it is coming from all over Africa. Yes there is a need to overhaul the customs and border control of South Africa, but the bigger issue is for these countries to fix their economic and political instability. South Africa should not be compelled to provide safe Harbour for the failures of other governments. Illegal immigration puts a strain on social resources such as housing education, sanitation and healthcare. Moreover, illegal immigrants are often paid under the table and do not contribute a fair share to the tax revenues needed to provide the very same social services they utilize. It is important to view this issue with an objective not subjective mindset.
Documentation of illegal immigrants will not solve the problem of under employment which often results from illegal immigrants who are willing to accept unreasonably low wages. Of course employers are prone to employing illegal immigrants. It is to their economic advantage, but it does not benefit the locals who cannot survive on a subsistence living wage. So the narrative should change it is not that South Africans do not want to work or choose to be unemployed. It is more so that they want to be paid a living wage that equates to the cost of their labor and provides them a decent standard of living.
What if the roles were reversed would we be willing to accept illegal immigrants within our boarders?
Food for thought…..
Wow you ate very wise and you raised valid points you have just given me an idea on what to discuss in my next video I appreciate you thanks so much 🙏This is what we call a discussion I appreciate comments like this whereby my mind is opened further to think and see things from other perspectives. I’m definitely taking a screenshot of this comment and will research more on this for our next discussion
@nomah good question.
1. Political stability, suffering with peace is 💯 % better than no peace with lots of wealthy.
2. Rule of law and human rights will cause people to stay in their countries.
3. Economical growth people can't go look for greener pastures when the economy is growing, they is at least hope for job creation when the economy is growing.
4. Stop corruption, in the home affairs, law enforcement, and in the government, you may build a fence, put solidiers whatever, where people are they is always corruption one way or the other.
5. Respecting the will of the people their votes, their choice of leadership must be respected. Politicians must be taught the definitions of the word democracy opposited to dictorship. Voting is the constitutional rights of the citizens that is their only voice of hope.
What we are seeing in other countries changes of the constitution by politicians not the citizens to silence citizens, this breaking the will and rights of people. Politicians must put laws that protect their citizens not themselves and their elite political minority favorites groups. Thus Dictorship. Autocratic type of leadership.
@@nomah The Shona’s are treating other tribes as sub humans in Zimbabwe. They are the ones making noise in SA.
We can't document immigrants. Why other countries are not documenting immigrants? South Africa is not a playing ground.
South African government has had to spend R4 billion to provide basic education to “illegal immigrant children” in Gauteng province. This was supposedly revealed by Panyaza Lesufi, Gauteng's education boss, during a parliamentary committee meeting. Just imagine how much is spent by the whole country and we are not counting the money spent on health and others.
Sorry forget UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS ARE GOING TO BE DEPORTED IT WONT BE STOPPED
We gave the GNU a chance, we will do our mass deportation if they fail too. In absence of the law, the people shall govern. When the people govern, no foreigner is going to enter SA illegally.
He said lawlessness cannot happen under his watch, that's Minister of home affairs. Instead he is gonna intensify and ask for more budget and also work with other departments like SANDF, Police and public infrastructure...
@@phumzilensele302 Willingly or not.
@@phumzilensele302 🤣🤣🤣We know S.A. CITIZENS will never vote for Eff, even Eff members running from them party, Juju needs votes.... Since it's taxpayers money WE WILL DEPORT FOREIGNERS OR THE ANC WILL JUST LOOT THE MONEY...
ai we won't reward a crime in SA, it gives funny vibes that Zimbabweans have every solution for our problems but none for their own!! why is that??
Not worried about 35 million they've shared from VBS
Its our money not Zimbabweans so be concerned about what made you to flee Zimbabwe undocumented instead.
And every person who is deported is documented as undesirable by HOME AFFAIRS so what more documentation do you want now?
Tell her my sister a Zimbabwean girl
Housing illegal immigrants Costa more when they utilize our resources like health and so forth it doesn't matter how much it costs..no one should break our laws for the sake of costs...Im glad Minister said he will intensity these deportation.
Make them pay for any resource you think they are costing your gvnt
Let's allow home affairs do it's work. If it is for the benefit of South Africa to deport, let it be. We are fully behind him @@josephkokisi371
That money is not even the government money buy the taxpayers money who is the citizens of this country. @@josephkokisi371
@@josephkokisi371 nope, we want them gone. Our infrastructure is also compromised. They cant pay for that. Beside these pple are selling tomatos and some are unemployed how will they afford the service's?
@@josephkokisi371 that attitude it's what makes us sininyanye..its that attitude awaz ukuthi Ama Zimbabweans...especially illegal ones..cross the border just to give birth in country and go back...with whose tax money..
Lol" it's my freedom of speech" ,,I like how you guyz don't say a single thing to protest your government back home but in South Africa you have voices loud enough to irritate the entire South Africa
How can you use the word HARASS, for an illegal immigrant.
You tell us about Julius who is corrupt to the core 😊
If is hectic and hard to get papers here, so why are they coming here then.
How I wish South Africa could learn from Poland, i think that's the only solution.
Intruders love S.A. BUSINESS!!!! Why Don't you GO HELP YOUR PEOPLE IN ZIMBABWE EATING ELEPHANT'S. Who's money is it , THE TAXPAYERS MONEY!!!!! CHIDIMMA'S mother also said Juju was standing with them. DHA OFFICIALLY CANCELLED THEIR ID'S AND PASSPORTS.
umoyo wakho mubi kakhulu yoooooo izim ayiqedanga imali ulamanga i nageria &Congo lamazwe asekideni wena nje uzonda isizwe sikamabo lasika mzilikazi njalo ezm into oyidla lapha lezim ikhona wena nje unonya imali ayidlaliswanga cha akunjalo isebenze kahle uma bebothswa kufanele babuyiselwe Kubo uzohlupheka unga buka abantu bezim uzojika ube ngunyawupe asila ndaba lawe thina we don't care about your useless thing
How much has been stolen here in south Africa when you worry about 50 million they've failed to create jobs for south Africans in 30 years what difference Wil this 50 million make give the minister some space after all it's our money not Zimbabwean
You are biased, we will remove them ourselves if this GNU fails.
People must respect country laws, deportation I think those countries must be billed because they are failing their citizens now SA must carry the weight which is unfair.
I totally agree and understand that it’s unfair that’s why there is need for permanent solutions
Create jobs for South Africans...what jobs ...Those jobs are going to be filled by Zimbabweans...Malawians as cheap laborours..There must be strict boarder control...The Anc made it easier for everybody crossing the boarders..now its out of control..esp the Zimbabweans as it is easy for them...Creating the jobs is useless..even the army is corrupt..l saw them taking bribes in one of the documentary..emagine crossing the boarder to Zimbabwe without documents l will be arrested on the spot..
I agree with you coz you raised some valid points here
@@Tariromtin thanks Tariro
REMEMBER THIS: The GNU MINISTER took Office in JUNE 2024 and until now 500 000 people deported.
Did you know that USA spend about 20000 USD to deport 1 illegal
I didn’t know thanks for the update
True, that's what he said in his interview with SABC
That money was budgeted for, it is just a myth that they will come back
It is costly but just a drop when it is compared with the costs of having them around. How many tar roads do they walk on which end up with those huge potholes? Did you hear that almost 60% of prisoners at modderbee are foreigners?
Oooo really
That's true. Not only Modderbee but all prisons. I raised this in X and my account got blacklisted@@Tariromtin
The way I enjoy your commentary, it leaves you with food for thought ❤❤
Wow, thank you
Tatiro. Listen sister.when those foreigners are here wether legal or illegally. Our government spent much especially on health.
That money of deportation Is just a drop in an Ocean.
I agree with you
@@ThabisoBokaba-v7p there is no money the government is spending on health,we are paying money my brother, just to have a file 400 rands , consultations with the doctor for a foreigner is 250 rands , operation before you go to theatre 1500 ,I have all the summary of all these expenses, from my brother I have been taking to hospital here in south Africa,so don't tell lies , check what is happening in your facilities, as south Africans are paying but not as much as we are paying, they paying 50 rands for the file ,100 rands for consultations on follow ups .
@@AdmireMasora-n8git's just for formality no one can be denied the right to health care due to lack of finances,it's unconstitutional and the foreigners knows it and takes advantage of this constitutional law,they don't pay a cent maybe those who can afford are paying
Why dont you talk about the Mozambique guy who R-p and murder young girl here on South Africa,so that the world will know that?
My focus is mostly on Zimbabwe and SA
Your so-called “solution “ is rather simplistic to “serious “ problems documenting every economic migrant from your country is not possible without bankrupting SA resources are limited, already our government has run out of money just about every department has had budget cuts, what are fellow Zimbabweans to do, crime already Zimbabweans have overrun our healthcare at least 40% of patients in government hospitals are foreigners, don’t you think this will create “resentment ??
On the concept of documenting foreigners it means foreigners applying valid visas and permit. The government doesn’t run any loss but they gain because these foreigners to apply for visa they pay huge amounts of money
I would like to disagree with you on this one Tariro. Each an every department has a budget. We cant take home affairs budget and use it in employment or small business enterprise etc.... i Believe that 50 million or whatever amout is meant for home affairs issues. If they decide to hire more immigration officials, up to them. If they see it necessary to deport, good for them. Issue of deported foreigners coming back through back doors that should be dealt with by SANDF as they are the ones who must protect us from terrorists and people not coming through ports of entry. So my view is, if a person come through Limpopo river they must just meet SANDF. Thats permanent solution
Thanks so much sis these are valid points you raised have enlightened me. I respect you for this ❤️❤️❤️yes I love positive criticism like this and I know we cannot always agree
But encourage foreigners to come here legally other than blaming borders employees
We want to come legally, but we can't afford the passport It's very expensive, and there is nothing you can express in Zimbabwe , intimidations, torture, and duress is the order of the day to those who want to raise their heads, remember we don't have democracy in Zimbabwe it's dictatorship.
@@AdmireMasora-n8g Understand and heartbreaking situation, but you understand the frustration of SA govt with illegality of foreigners which will also take the same govt to court.
@@RhodaMaloka I understand this my brother,it is not good at all, but here we are,we are crying for help , because where we come from there is danger,we can't stay there, that is why we are asking,at least for a positive solutions that will not have negative impacts on both parties.
@@AdmireMasora-n8g am a She.
@@RhodaMaloka sorry my sister,I never checked carefully on your name, but we anyway I enjoyed this conversation with you,we teach each other the way to embrace, collaborate and cooperate with each other,even though we are not from the same womb, but the fact that we are human being, and we never know where we are going to lend one of these days, makes us love one another and have positive solutions all the time.thanks my dear for the correction.
What do you think must be done?
I personally think the south African government must approach the government concerned on the immigration issue, 1. Why are they running away from their countries? That is the problem that need to be addressed at diplomatic level.
2. The government must come up with temporary newable documents maybe for two or three years consecutively just as a way of legalizing them so that they are traceable.
@@khosinimsebele7835 agree with you because WOW.
@@khosinimsebele7835wonderful my brother,this will reduce unnecessary expenditures ,by deporting people who are coming back in large numbers after deportation, remember if you deport one he will come back with 5 people because he now knows the way to cross,the situation especially for Zimbabwe everyone knows,it started with the abuse of human rights which is still existing till now, and this wrecked a war between the government and it's people, which is still going ahead because the leadership is unkind to it's people.That is why you have seen us landed in south Africa to seek protection, and food to put on the table, but otherwise what you have commented is so wonderful for the sake of reduce some hardship foreigners are facing in this country,we are not staying with stable and calm hearts , police are now taking advantage of the situation,even in hospitals things are not easy for the foreigners.
@@khosinimsebele7835 and it will for ever be extend like ZEP, your problems are non of our business, enough is enough
@@khosinimsebele7835no ways they will end up taking government to court just like ZEP are doing now,their permits were given out of pity but when the government announced that they're canceling them they went court claiming they've been living in South Africa for more 5⃣ years so according to South Africa they should be given citizenship,even though those permits clearly mentioned that they will not get citizenship,Anc will never make such mistake again,the only solution is to deport them and frustrate them until they leave,no employer would want to hire a person for 2 days after they disappear because they got deported or hiding because police are searching for illegal immigrants,they will leave on their own by then it would be too late cause they would have wasted their life in SA with nothing to show off
“Gauteng’s cancer burden: Foreign nationals account for health department's R1.2 billion treatment” City Press 17 Oct 2024. Its not worth et.
Even if they spend a lot doesn't meter the country loossing too much already children ar dying her hospital crime its a lot we ar tired of keeping foreign ar not documening they do lot of things
We have Mphofu in Eastern Cape also Mphofu in Bulawayo Zimbabwe there father is 1 vs a white guy u don't know even to call his name ,and u find foreigner in Mphofu vs Mphofu
unamanga inye impofu ngabantu banye landela imvelaphi yabo mina nginje ngiu ndlovu baningi abakithi lapha abako Khumalo , mafu ,bhebhe , Mahlangu ,mabhena baningi asikho izibongo osithola kwabulawayo ESI ngekho kusizwe samazulu babe lobudlelwano lamanguni noma kulempi kwakubikwa kukhokho umzilikazi akhuphe amasotsha bebuye banqobile thina akusiwo abantu bokuza hayi ngamanga asivumi amanga lenzonda kodwa ngoba ezim silawo umhlaba njalo siyazama ukuziphilisa ngoba imisebenzi ngeya mashona sihlukunyezwe ezim lakithi emzansi sikhathele phansi ngenzondo
Thank you my sister fr address this issues n i saw alot of south African make a comment of this foreigners the main problem is home affairs even upto now the r not open fr people's from outside to the permitted is very sad n u know the big problem south African face now b cus what we doing to foreigners for past 10 year's we r scared going out site countries to work before we r going to our continent countries to work like Ghana . Serial Leone. Cameroon. n more just b cuz our people doing we don't wan go anymore that why unployment rate is going high
Dear, why are you always discussing SA issues? When are you going to concentrate on Zimbabwe issues?
SA issues affect me the lord because I live here. I can’t really discuss much about Zim coz I’m not on ground I hope you understand. For example if they say there is Corona in SA right now it affects me coz I live here, so same applies with Zim affairs I’m not on ground so I don’t have first hand information
@@TariromtinIllgal KWEREKWERES must be deported even if it takes trillion Rands we can afford it.
@@Tariromtinthat's just an excuse sister in the time of internet it's easy to just Google or search on other social media to find any news of every country around the world,most of the information you're sharing you get it from internet or watching news 😮
Go Home and Help Us with this influx, Help your Government To Help Us, I can See You Have Solutions for SA..Go and Suggest to Mnangagwa. Leave Ramaphosa. Understand you Are an Immigrant. You are
too comfortable , do You know
Who you Are? Do you even Love your country? Can't You see Problems in Your country, Your Country needs young blood like to fix it. Go Home.
@@florencetabane8911 Lekwerekwere le le itebetse.
Yes it makes economic sence
True
I feel for innocent south Africans who are staying in shakes, really this money could have done much to the lives of south Africans.
At least those South Africans are living because of those foreigners are around there is no guarantee they would even be alive
Tariro I think it's the right time for you to go back to Zimbabwe and fix your country it seems as you're concerned about the South African issues please go back to Zimbabwe to fight Mnangagwa so that he can create jobs for your fellow Zimbabweans
One more better know how to solve Africa because she is a black spiritual nation
They are the ones taking minerals exporting to Europe here bzy fighting wt a person hu is disabled
Since south African citizen wanna take over spaza shop. If you give each citizen 250K to open spaza I strongly believe all Nalede wil occupied all spaza for Nalede
Well explain the problem is not fighting a illegal foreigners home affairs must document them everyone must accountable for crime
Do you know the financial implications or you just another foreigner who is here illegally. That’s the day you will see our government rue colours.
The country will be clean 52million is nothing
But what's that has to do with you at least their finger prints are on our database, I think this is necessary when they are arrested again they will be arrested and rendered undesirable
uya borra
Your right i agree there already back ❤
True 🤞
Uyahlanya wena sdudla abahambe
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We need 2vote Gayton in 2029 to introduce Poland model of immigration we cant be talking about 1 & de same thing MABAHAMBE!!!!
Well. This time when caught again you are going to prison
But this again is a disadvantage to the state coz prisons are full and more people IT’s burdens the government it’s over millions of undocumented foreigners
@@Tariromtinwe will build prisons specifically for illegal immigrants.
Lady in the beginning, that's why you are not in government my sister. If there was a ministry of KFC however you'd definitely be the minister.
Malma say teru
if ihla ngemilenze niyibalile Yona deportation will create the Jobs it self kade idliwa ii millions zihla ngemilenze nithulile now that and this sukaaaa Sanusi fundekela
Boarder management will never work Tariro, believe me or not ask me why, people must be documented is the solutions.
Documented were as a Economic migrant while our youth are jobles s because of cheap labour.
The people are coming back in large numbers,and those officials who are deporting the foreigners are the ones who are coming back with them,a good example of another guy who is working at my company,he was deported in August after dropping at the border gate , the officials who transported him requested him 1500 to come back with him, African boarders are porous, even if you put stringent measures they will pass,our passport is very expensive that is why people are moving in and out of south Africa, without passport they can't afford it ,5000rands for a passport it is so ridiculous, how can we have proper papers, when things are bad in our own country, where we are not given the opportunity to articulate our rights.Boarder management are human beings, they need money and a goat always graze where it is tied on.
@@AdmireMasora-n8g it doesn't matter we deport and atleast when you are caught your details are captured and prospects of getting a visa or permit in South Africa gets even little if no all because you're breaking the law..they must intensify these deprtations and inspections at work places.
@@AdmireMasora-n8g fight for your country Qhaa
@@RaphaelNgwenya-cc1dm this issue has been there for decades my brother, it's not starting now,and it's consuming a lot of money in the south Africans,I would reasonably think documenting these people is the best,no one is going to be after them demanding bribes,no deportation all the time which is which is straining the government budget,no official that will leave their offices going after Foreigners all the time instead of doing something profitable for the country, remember they are not only employed to do one task of chasing after Foreigners ,I am working around African countries,I go everywhere,and I think iam adding value to the economy of each and every country I am going, and iam not doing it for my family only, but to embrace others African countries as my brothers and sisters,I love them,I don't hesitate to give them my knowledge,in south Africa, Botswana, Zambia, Angola, Cameroon, Namibia Mozambique, when I get there,I am known of the good work and knowledge I am giving,no one will ask me where I come from,as I am speaking I will be in south Africa, for some tasks that needs to be done before December that will benefit south Africa and I am willing to do it with all my heart, this is why God gave me the knowledge of transforming the life of other people . let's embrace each other peacefully in the armpits of the law, and with the great sense of humanity rather than punishing and heatred, other countries are, people are dying that is why they are running away,no one wants to wait for death,so I understand what you are saying, but put yourself in the shoes of these people and assume yourself as Zimbabwean, Nigerian or Congolese,and inside of that country physically,you would see why they they are running away.
It's amazing because you foreigners are always talking about South Africans,why don't you tell the world about your country news.South African politics or what ever is non of your business.now it's not only that you are eating our tax money it's a lot.Just back off
But foreigners also pay tax. We have foreigners who are employed in serious sectors and they are taxed heavily
But not you @@Tariromtin
200000 people it's a small number Tariro
There are already back
Bayadelela
Not this time around
Legalise those people and charge them a certain ammount for documenting them and add that 52 million ,thats a very big job creation .
Legalize criminals ?You must be out of your damn mind.People must be vetted before they come here .No wonder our crime is off the roof .We must deal with our borders ,build a wall if we have to .Come here if you only have valid papers and skills .Not waiters or maids.
No!!
Never gonna happen not in this lifetime .
@@JohnDziya-dq7by Your countries need to create jobs and favorable conditions not SA creating a big jobs, don't bother with us Mr John.
Legalise them is a good solution because all the document that will be issued UN will pay. For that and is more income for SA
Road to 6k
Thanks so much for always supporting
Tariro nhai
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Not this time baba found again you go to jail for good
Tatiro. Is there any person left in Zimbabwe? Or zanu pf is running the country with population of 100 000 people?
It’s hectic
𝘠𝘦𝘴 𝘴𝘩𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘴 𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘵𝘭𝘦 𝘚𝘩𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘴 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘭𝘦𝘧𝘵 𝘳𝘦𝘮𝘦𝘮𝘣𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘳𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘣𝘺 𝘵𝘳𝘺𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘰 𝘳𝘦𝘮𝘰𝘷𝘦 𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘴𝘦 𝘫𝘰𝘴𝘩𝘶𝘢 𝘕𝘬𝘰𝘮𝘰 𝘱𝘦𝘰𝘱𝘭𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘡𝘢𝘱𝘶 𝘕𝘥𝘦𝘣𝘦𝘭𝘦𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘴𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘸𝘢𝘺 𝘸𝘩𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘴 𝘯𝘰𝘸 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘦𝘢𝘤𝘩 𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳
VBS bank pay back money dan kan j praat
create foreigners for boy friends to remain in SA.
We need permanent solutions, so we can just choose you as minister of Home Affairs. Madam speaker😂😂😂😂😂
No you're crazy
@@sandilesangoni8172 I am saying this bcos she's always in our business. Nothing she can report from her country. You won't even understand how annoying it is. They will tell you about human rights on the other side abuse kids and unlive them. COWARDS
@thokozilemautla6246 if she can be minister of home affairs millions of Zimbabwes will enter RSA free you don’t make no sense
REMEMBER THIS: The GNU MINISTER took Office in JUNE 2024 and until now 500 000 people deported.
@@charlesvanderberg9528 Five hundred thousand? Yohhh!!!!!
South African government has had to spend R4 billion to provide basic education to “illegal immigrant children” in Gauteng province. This was supposedly revealed by Panyaza Lesufi, Gauteng's education boss, during a parliamentary committee meeting. Just imagine how much is spent by the whole country and we are not counting the money spent on health and others.
And they complain about just 50 million for deportation🤷🏽♀️