The influence on a compass has to be considered, thx for mentioning. I have a wire in the brim of mine, but fortunately, it's copper wire which doesn't influence magnetic fields. I agree on the rest. Somebody designed that thing the way it work's best. So any mod is at least useless (if not dangerous...)
Good tip about the wire. Glad I’m not the only one seeing these videos and thinking the mods aren’t really practical. I added a head net to two of the loops on the back of mine. The boonie hat keeps the net away from my skin
Boonie hats are useful anywhere anytime. I have collected all sorts of sizes and camo versions from the Vietnam War onwards and have used them in my job as a pilot. Thanks for these tips and information.
Since I recently wired a boonie brim I decided to test the compass magnet theory. At 6” from the brim, no change. When the compass is held against the brim, the needle swings 3 degrees. So, with my particular steel wire, the answer is….possibly a problem, but not likely. Your particular wire/compass mileage may vary. ( :
For some it would be a risk, forgetting to take off the hat. For someone who can’t take his boonie into the boonies anymore, and likes to shape a boonie brim while doing less rigorous activities, no risk. ( :
How about copper or brass (non magnetic) wire? I agree with Mike though, the Boonie is best unencumbered. Besides making it heavy, placing survival items on it, versus securing them in pockets, risks losing them if you lose your head cover in a mishap.
I’m a bush hat fool been wearing and collecting them since the early eighties, the first bush hat I saw was in 1980 on a canoe trip, my friend was wearing one he had when he was in service in Vietnam , after that I got me a boonie at the military surplus store
I’ve too been wearing them since the early 80’s. My dad was a Vietnam Vet. When he came back he gave me a tighter strip shirt and boonie hat. I still have the hat . I used an OD and ERDL boonie when hunting and fishing growing up. I got my first boonie in ID when I joined the Army and used it. During Desert phase of Ranger School you got an OD boonie. I got issued a woodland boonie. It’s in the video. I used it in the army. My desert Boonie is located at the 3d ID museum in Stewart George. I’ve got a picture of my uniform on display when 3D ID was still in Germany. If you have a look at www.helvetiabushcraft.ch you can see my collection for sell. I don’t need them anymore. I’ll keep a very few for myself. But the two on the video are them.
Some folks just have to look cool, regardless of practicality...😜 IMO, the best modification is wear; simple fading from use is the coolest look! 😎 There are the stories about newbies and veterans swapping gear; the vets want new stuff and the newbies want to look...not like newbies. 😉
You use stainless or aluminum wire for the brim, since iron will rust when wet anyway. No compass problems then.| Black (as well as red and darker colors) absorbs more heat, but it also radiates more heat. That means hotter in the Sun and colder in the shade. Worse in either case.
Amen! Fully agree. I regret every modified hat in my life. Should be floppy so you can pop it in a pocket, should be breathable. VS17 sounds cool but even in Nam most guys did not do it for reason mentioned plus they were often lost in the field so why bother. Tbh I have one floppy with wire in the brim but full size plus strips of camo net around the band. Brits did it right and used cammoed foliage band and more breathable material, something I never liked in US hats but then again US shape was better and green tape could be fixed XD . Czech camo was based on US ERDL by the way. Years back when I was younger I wanted my gear to be more "gucci" , short brim, panel, paracord all that shit but now I see its just not needed. Some people missing the point of paracord - used by the Marines, dummy corded to the shirt so they would not loose it on the way paddling or in a river crossing, when on ground they would untie and wrap the cord around the camo band but other than that theres no reason to do so.
I have a few civilian boonies, but I bought my woodland boonie at the PX at Ft Jackson just before I got out. It may not be issue, but it is Brigade Quartermasters. I don't have my UCP boonie, got rid of all that ugly useless stuff after I got out. I leave mine stock except using the same type of pin to hold the side up on occasion. I mostly use it camping and kayaking.
Sooo...my boonie was used quite frequently in the USMC. I was Force Recon, so we wore them quite often. As for modifying them??? put it on your head and wear it, it doesn't require some farcical Tacticool modification.
The compass interference of the wire is actually a myth. Please do a video that proves the wire adversely affecting the compass orientation as there is Zero studies, facts and evidence to support your theory. Alternatively, instead of a metal wire a weedeater string would be ideal tho it will only stiffen the brim but will not allow the brim to be shaped as its plastic and not metal. The benefits of have a wire in the brim of the boonie have largely improved the wearability of the boonie and I enjoy it greatly. Lastly, a boonie should be worn like a Drill Sergeant or State Trooper Hat with the Draw String tired in the back of the head and the hat gently resting on the head. The purpose of the boonie is to protect the Face, Neck and Ears from sun burn and keep the body cool (its a mini umbrella) but folding the back is counterproductive as it exposes the neck and ears to direct sunlight. The only time the back flap should be folded is when you have a tall Ruck Sack and even then most elite marines will tilt their covers foward a little and level the front visor that way its parallel to the ground allowing for greater peripheral visibility. Hope that helps. Thanks for the video. I enjoyed your stories. I am now subscribed and I hope to see more content
Thanks for your message. I’ll take your advice and give it a test. Although I’ve already tested this for someone who has added a digging wire. As for the wearing of the hat with it looking like a DIs hat. I’ll leave you too it. Only time I’ve seen one worn like that was with people in the rear with the gear. I just gifted with the new Hungarian boo ie hat with the new camo pattern. I do like a good boo ie hat.
@@mikebox Do a video of the Hungarian Boonie Hat. It would be cool if you incorporated some still pics of you wearing the covers out on the wild and let's see how the camo blends in with our N American Vegetation. I also like the Czech Camo Boonie. Throw some still pics with that also. Cheers
The influence on a compass has to be considered, thx for mentioning.
I have a wire in the brim of mine, but fortunately, it's copper wire which doesn't influence magnetic fields.
I agree on the rest. Somebody designed that thing the way it work's best. So any mod is at least useless (if not dangerous...)
Good tip about the wire. Glad I’m not the only one seeing these videos and thinking the mods aren’t really practical. I added a head net to two of the loops on the back of mine. The boonie hat keeps the net away from my skin
Looks good on ya ! wear it the more it gets wore the better it performs
Boonie hats are useful anywhere anytime. I have collected all sorts of sizes and camo versions from the Vietnam War onwards and have used them in my job as a pilot. Thanks for these tips and information.
Welcome
Since I recently wired a boonie brim I decided to test the compass magnet theory. At 6” from the brim, no change. When the compass is held against the brim, the needle swings 3 degrees. So, with my particular steel wire, the answer is….possibly a problem, but not likely. Your particular wire/compass mileage may vary. ( :
Can vary. But why risk it ?
For some it would be a risk, forgetting to take off the hat. For someone who can’t take his boonie into the boonies anymore, and likes to shape a boonie brim while doing less rigorous activities, no risk. ( :
How about copper or brass (non magnetic) wire? I agree with Mike though, the Boonie is best unencumbered. Besides making it heavy, placing survival items on it, versus securing them in pockets, risks losing them if you lose your head cover in a mishap.
very true....@@darrenvanderwilt1258
Put it on, wear it. That's all the mods you need.
Totally agree. Unless it’s for a specific role in your job. ie. Sniper, recon… etc..
My dad got me into Tilly hats and I can't recommend them enough. Absolutely worth the price. If only they made em M81... 😏
No, Tilley hats give you a « cool guy » look, which I don’t want, cause I want to get a « predator » look, understand ?
@LucieOvalx no….
I’m a bush hat fool been wearing and collecting them since the early eighties, the first bush hat I saw was in 1980 on a canoe trip, my friend was wearing one he had when he was in service in Vietnam , after that I got me a boonie at the military surplus store
I’ve too been wearing them since the early 80’s. My dad was a Vietnam Vet. When he came back he gave me a tighter strip shirt and boonie hat. I still have the hat . I used an OD and ERDL boonie when hunting and fishing growing up. I got my first boonie in ID when I joined the Army and used it. During Desert phase of Ranger School you got an OD boonie. I got issued a woodland boonie. It’s in the video. I used it in the army. My desert Boonie is located at the 3d ID museum in Stewart George. I’ve got a picture of my uniform on display when 3D ID was still in Germany. If you have a look at www.helvetiabushcraft.ch you can see my collection for sell. I don’t need them anymore. I’ll keep a very few for myself. But the two on the video are them.
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@@mikebox yes, I wear my od boonie the most, they are genuine GI, I have the EDRL also
Some folks just have to look cool, regardless of practicality...😜 IMO, the best modification is wear; simple fading from use is the coolest look! 😎
There are the stories about newbies and veterans swapping gear; the vets want new stuff and the newbies want to look...not like newbies. 😉
I had someone offer to buy my Tilley hat. Old faded etc..
@@mikebox Well, the distressed look does cost more.
You use stainless or aluminum wire for the brim, since iron will rust when wet anyway. No compass problems then.|
Black (as well as red and darker colors) absorbs more heat, but it also radiates more heat. That means hotter in the Sun and colder in the shade. Worse in either case.
If you choose that route.
Amen! Fully agree. I regret every modified hat in my life. Should be floppy so you can pop it in a pocket, should be breathable. VS17 sounds cool but even in Nam most guys did not do it for reason mentioned plus they were often lost in the field so why bother. Tbh I have one floppy with wire in the brim but full size plus strips of camo net around the band. Brits did it right and used cammoed foliage band and more breathable material, something I never liked in US hats but then again US shape was better and green tape could be fixed XD . Czech camo was based on US ERDL by the way. Years back when I was younger I wanted my gear to be more "gucci" , short brim, panel, paracord all that shit but now I see its just not needed. Some people missing the point of paracord - used by the Marines, dummy corded to the shirt so they would not loose it on the way paddling or in a river crossing, when on ground they would untie and wrap the cord around the camo band but other than that theres no reason to do so.
I have a few civilian boonies, but I bought my woodland boonie at the PX at Ft Jackson just before I got out. It may not be issue, but it is Brigade Quartermasters. I don't have my UCP boonie, got rid of all that ugly useless stuff after I got out.
I leave mine stock except using the same type of pin to hold the side up on occasion. I mostly use it camping and kayaking.
Sooo...my boonie was used quite frequently in the USMC. I was Force Recon, so we wore them quite often. As for modifying them??? put it on your head and wear it, it doesn't require some farcical Tacticool modification.
I concur 👍 Occam’s razor
We'd cut down a M17 panel and sew it in That used a little less than half and we'd fold the leftover up and carry it in the .right chest pocket.
Due to being a paratrooper we’d carry a full panel. But I prefer to carry a small one. Even carried a hivis scarf
I wear a boonie style 😎 ✨ sun 🌞 👒 hat after seeing 👀 😎 a few videos 📹 I just put it on my head an let nature take its corse
BTW. I stand by what I’ve said in this video. FUI. What ever that may be worth. 😂
Were you in the 505th PIR? I was in 2/505 for about 6 years. I loved that place.
Yep. Charlie 2P. 92-95
The compass interference of the wire is actually a myth. Please do a video that proves the wire adversely affecting the compass orientation as there is Zero studies, facts and evidence to support your theory.
Alternatively, instead of a metal wire a weedeater string would be ideal tho it will only stiffen the brim but will not allow the brim to be shaped as its plastic and not metal.
The benefits of have a wire in the brim of the boonie have largely improved the wearability of the boonie and I enjoy it greatly.
Lastly, a boonie should be worn like a Drill Sergeant or State Trooper Hat with the Draw String tired in the back of the head and the hat gently resting on the head.
The purpose of the boonie is to protect the Face, Neck and Ears from sun burn and keep the body cool (its a mini umbrella) but folding the back is counterproductive as it exposes the neck and ears to direct sunlight.
The only time the back flap should be folded is when you have a tall Ruck Sack and even then most elite marines will tilt their covers foward a little and level the front visor that way its parallel to the ground allowing for greater peripheral visibility. Hope that helps.
Thanks for the video. I enjoyed your stories. I am now subscribed and I hope to see more content
Thanks for your message. I’ll take your advice and give it a test. Although I’ve already tested this for someone who has added a digging wire. As for the wearing of the hat with it looking like a DIs hat. I’ll leave you too it. Only time I’ve seen one worn like that was with people in the rear with the gear. I just gifted with the new Hungarian boo ie hat with the new camo pattern. I do like a good boo ie hat.
@@mikebox
Do a video of the Hungarian Boonie Hat. It would be cool if you incorporated some still pics of you wearing the covers out on the wild and let's see how the camo blends in with our N American Vegetation.
I also like the Czech Camo Boonie. Throw some still pics with that also.
Cheers
I’ll put something together soon.
If you're the compass guy, give your boonie a spin 180°
Of course there are ways around this problem. You could just flip the boo or back using the schism strap. But my point if obvious.
Where do you get the cats eyes from?
Ranger Joes
@@mikebox thank you 🙏
Buy hat.
Put on head.
Indeed
Compass v Wire in the brim of your boonie hat.
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Great idea for a Bonnie found this
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use copper wire...
For someone wanting to wire up their boonie. Great idea