I tried coming back to this game a couple times after 2.0 but it seems so utterly hopeless to even try fighting. I just have a r3 WK, a r2 Undying, a r7 Lurtz and a r6 Shadow as my best comms, and they get shredded like it's nothing. The whole system of even pullling a good commander is just predatory at this point. Why should i have to contend with people who have zenith commanders? There should be some sort of matchmaking where you play with people closer to your ability, not with krakens who are immortal.
Probs for saying the truth, you are Speaking for all of us and i still can’t believe the devs completely ignored is on the respect Vouchers and didn’t Even give a Statement or anything at all. Really disappointing. Other then that I must say though a lot of the changes are going in the right direction
Based on the PBE test results, giving universal gifts doesn't seem very meaningful. Even after this change, Beorn and Dáin's positions are still solid.
People would love seeing their teammates with a meta-counter! And for people to know if they go with the meta build they can be countered by Azog!! Your suggestions are right on point bro! I recently suggested they create a council with our favorite content creators and I 100% had you in mind. You’re always fair and objective of our position and their own.
@@ombrartw Yeah man! Thanks for all you do. You deserve a spot! And other games do it 🤷🏼♂️ I think it would help show they don’t just care about the bottom line. And truthfully, I don’t think they do. They know they have to strike a balance with us to continue doing well and some decisions are made with us more in mind than we realize at times.
I like the update. If the developers allowed people to remove all respect from one commander and simply place it into another commander. Then all players would build the same meta-commanders and we be in the same boat that we are now. These new changes are good for low spenders and free to play players and those that already had meta did not get hurt.
Thank you for another fantastic video. 💖 I appreciate your honesty and for being a voice for the community. I hope the developers take your words to heart and put an end to their greed and senseless decisions. 😞
This is one of the most generous things they have ever done. You just got 80,000 gems worth of mithril, you got more skill points to play with which will help you fight krakens, it is easier now to ascend, and you can take all those useless good or evil Commander respect items we've been getting in chests and now use them for something, ascending. The vouchers aren't bad. If they had told us in the beginning what the vouchers did, help to ascend commanders, then people would have been disappointed but not angry. I will never understand why they can never learn that communication is always a good thing.
But in fact as always with the correct communication and a healthy relationship between community and developers, everything could have gone better. As for the commanders however, trust my technical analysis, the usable commanders are 15 out of 71...and this is not balancing...my main criticism is there...
I think the point was to give something that we've all been asking for for months and months, to make us believe that they finally listened to us, but then instead give something that is practically useless... it seems done on purpose, no one forced them to put something... but they chose to put them... done like that they are a joke. I hope I explained my point of view, Don't you also think that the way they handled this thing was terrible?
@ombrartw I am disappointed I was expecting like it was last time I had alot going on and when it come out I was like wth it don't let us lower unused coms and level others hardly at all the only good part of it was the changes of relics and ascension but as for leveling and deleveling commanders to try and use with new changes it completely missed the point with that said this done can stay as is but give us a respec event for commanders like last time was like 15 levels right that's all we want I'll also be voicing it as well soon just got alot on atm in real life and family
Thank you so much for your videos - Praise GOD that you tell the truth....... The DEVS could easily turn this game into a great game if they only cared and listened to the community!
Great video my friend! I agree with you. 👍😎 Except for nerf Dain. I think he is good. I think troops, and healing commands need to be Buffed! You should have a good balance between, commander damage, troops leading commanders and healing commands or support. Healing is pretty useless in the game I find that sad. I personally think Dain is fine where he is. They need to buff other things to be closer to being good. Not the other way around. Just my own thoughts on it. Also I am afraid if they "nerf Dain" it won't be a well done balance but just end up destroying him as a good commander in the process. I think like what they did here with legolas and saruman should be the goal! Make the commanders who are terrible into good competitive ones! 😊 Cheers great video! I also fully agree with the respect return. What you said here is what they should have done!
Я тратил деньги на Арагорна и поднял его до 12 ранга, а после обновления он стал слабым на фоне остальных и мне не дали его разобрать. Разработчики с одной стороны что то делают хорошее, а с другой бьют тебя по голове.
Again the developers make another update to force players to spend more money. They don't respect the player. Please good players, get together with leaders and UA-camrs to spread the word that the update is good! It's a shame what they do to the player, they don't respect the money and time spent on the player.
What makes me angry is that in reality, as I said in the video, they did some good things, but those 2 or 3 mistakes are too big and ruin the whole update.
I feel sad for a whole day too especially about the reversion voucher. The update is mainly focus on Free2play or smaller players. Now everyone gets much more skill points and more respects level in total. The good thing is now many ftp can enjoy fights and everyone gets to use a bit more balacened commanders. Probably the main thing is the total number of players is too low to open more server, so they made this update to recurit new and old players. Paid2win players are not there focus now. :(
I'm very happy with the nice things done for F2p and I really hope it attracts people, but as I said in the video, if you want people you have to have a nice and balanced game, so the real work to do is on the commanders to attract people and make them stay.
Hmm i ldk f2p didn't get anything out of this update. We almost didn't get vouchers at all(let's be honest f2p don't have a lot mythic commanders more then r5) and commanders what was 9-10r didn't went up to. Little bit more skill points earlier don't help either to fight whales because game is massive.
@@ombrartw There are some nice things for F2P and low spend players I agree. But there will always remain a massive imbalance that was much less so in the original version. And that is the 4 commander system, with 4 sets of great gear plus relics. The game will never have any balance at all while that is the case. As an example; in original version a thoughtful player could take out someone with x10 their spend with 2-3 commanders from their 5-6 good ones. Now those 5-6 well developed commanders can't even touch a higher spending player. Even if the player could gather the required 8-12 well developed commanders they could still never compete with the equipment. Unless that is addressed in some way, and there are many solutions, there never will be any balance. I don't expect to be able to beat a kraken as a small spender, but against a mid-level spender and sometimes a high level spender with the right counter, I had a chance as a low spender. I'm not going to complain about it, well past that. Just pointing out the fact balance will never be achieved under the current model.
Devs, each of your actions destroyed the game! When are you going to stop for a minute and listen to the community? It was a really good game... My last question is, what is your real objective? Nobody understands you... 1- give vouchers of universal respect. 2- refund the unique and respective items. 3- put an end to 1.0 equipment 4- finish off the formations of four commanders. There's still time to save the game and the community that loves it and is loyal to it! Take a step back to take a thousand steps forward!!!
@@ombrartw Pues tendremos que esperar a que bajen los jugadores para que reaccionen. Puede que sea la única forma real ya que no escuchan a la comunidad. Quiza sea hora de tomarse unas vacaciones del juego...
@@ombrartw yeah converting system should be 1:1 . Also i am not able to improve my formation. Becouse i will not exchnage my R items for nothin. I excpect for example i could bring my ascencion down from gimli and get back 40 daina items . Not just use my existed items 😃 that is total crap.
Wie schätzt ihr azog ein in einem Ranking? weiss noch nicht ob ich ihn holen soll für nrp.... zusätzlich was denkt ihr von Isildur? Mit Gondor und schwänen ist er ein biest! aber ohne?
The command stat mod on skills completely changed qurwan but they forgot the relic. New commander r5 requires you to have best hitting troop as slowest??
Changed but still unusable in the meta, trust me I tried it at high level and it's still useless....at least now it's not a troll anymore, that's true.
Did they also reduce again respect obtained from invitations, or I am wrong? I remember they were back to 3k and 1k for mythic and legendary, now they give 1500 and 500.
For me totally useless update. I agree with that small good things what is done, but it's way to late. I'm f2p/super low spender. All months respect items was crashed and switched and with this respect vouchers the finally put me on place where I'm extremely weak and can change anything. I will finish my season and that's it. Not gonna play anymore. Even if give up. Thanks for your video ❤
Time to leave the game for me. I am tired about devs doesnt take care about their community, it is what it is when u are playing a mobile game with microtransactions, money wins ever, gg for the video Ombra! Kaiser here
Have you calculated the damage potential for Legolas yet m8? Is he worth assending? And getting his unique bow item? 🤞 because I will get him assended right now if you say he’s worth it lol
Bro how in the world can you put a creator code in this channel to make people spend more money on this game when we got shafted again! No good changes only bad
@@ombrartw yeah thats fine, you can have that opinion no worries there. I got triggered by the creator code for people to spend more money on this game
dude i think you are over reacting ombra … yes the way they did the vouchers sucks, but lowering the mithril req’d to get a relic is huge, the comms have more points thats huge, its super easier now to ascend lower grade tiers ,,, not perfect but i think it was good and at least they are trying
I appreciate your opinion, I think the way it was handled was terrible. Overall my main criticism was not about the Vouchers, but about how they reworked the commanders, which in my opinion was not done correctly, in fact only 15 commanders out of 72 are currently considered usable.
No couse the relic improve only toops damage of Azog, and troop damage is not playable. is not worth invest on a command for 1,5 skill, for a support commander that deal sauron thinks but worst.
@ombrartw you say 1.5 but he literally only has 1 skill that's utterly terrible. The other 2 are still ok. He just has 1 GOOD skill. 2 ok skills and 1 good can still be viable. I would like if he instead boosted comms and troops tho
Stop crying about those vouchers. Devs helped a lot of f2ps and medium spenders to boost their comms. I see only whales crying, because they thought they will boost their Dain from z10 to z11😂
The only thing they helped was boost current respect value, if we have universal vouchers it would even benefit f2p since they can pull their respect into one formation instead of having it all spread out
@@zephyroX24 true, but it also allows krakens to move all their respect from their useless comms into meta comms and make it even more impossible to fight against them
This is my first season. But even i can see this is a bad change. Whales are mad they can't get an extra zenith level, f2p players should be mad we can't pool bad rolls into into useful commanders and often get stuck with sub optimal armies widening the gap between whales and f2p even farther.
@Nikita___818 except its already impossible to fight against them, having commanders past z1 makes no sense anymore, since they'd just skill into something useless, it would instead allow people to experiment with new builds and not be so afraid and only build meta
@@zephyroX24 with those “vouchers cry” people are really missing out on good things. It became easier to ascend comms, as a medium spender, before I wasn’t able to ascend anyone. More skill points at lower respect lvl (that’s a big help for f2ps). At least some rework of troop comms. It’s just funny for me seeing people in discord crying that they can’t get respect out of their z11 thorins😂😂
I like the update. If the developers allowed people to remove all respect from one commander and simply place it into another commander. Then all players would build the same meta-commanders and we be in the same boat that we are now. These new changes are good for low spenders and free to play players and those that already had meta did not get hurt.
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you gotta be trolling . you really ask from ppl to spend on this game after this ?
Maybe im stupid but were do i use the code for 25% off?
Ciao Ombra come mai non mi fa loggare sul sito e acquistare gemme
The farther we go down the timeline, the more people agree to bring back version 1.0
I tried coming back to this game a couple times after 2.0 but it seems so utterly hopeless to even try fighting. I just have a r3 WK, a r2 Undying, a r7 Lurtz and a r6 Shadow as my best comms, and they get shredded like it's nothing. The whole system of even pullling a good commander is just predatory at this point. Why should i have to contend with people who have zenith commanders? There should be some sort of matchmaking where you play with people closer to your ability, not with krakens who are immortal.
Probs for saying the truth, you are Speaking for all of us and i still can’t believe the devs completely ignored is on the respect Vouchers and didn’t Even give a Statement or anything at all. Really disappointing. Other then that I must say though a lot of the changes are going in the right direction
Based on the PBE test results, giving universal gifts doesn't seem very meaningful. Even after this change, Beorn and Dáin's positions are still solid.
People would love seeing their teammates with a meta-counter! And for people to know if they go with the meta build they can be countered by Azog!!
Your suggestions are right on point bro!
I recently suggested they create a council with our favorite content creators and I 100% had you in mind. You’re always fair and objective of our position and their own.
Ty bro, Having a group of people to help them understand what the community needs would be nice, it's up to them to accept this thing...
@@ombrartw Yeah man! Thanks for all you do. You deserve a spot!
And other games do it 🤷🏼♂️
I think it would help show they don’t just care about the bottom line. And truthfully, I don’t think they do. They know they have to strike a balance with us to continue doing well and some decisions are made with us more in mind than we realize at times.
I like the update. If the developers allowed people to remove all respect from one commander and simply place it into another commander. Then all players would build the same meta-commanders and we be in the same boat that we are now. These new changes are good for low spenders and free to play players and those that already had meta did not get hurt.
Thank you for another fantastic video. 💖 I appreciate your honesty and for being a voice for the community. I hope the developers take your words to heart and put an end to their greed and senseless decisions. 😞
This is one of the most generous things they have ever done. You just got 80,000 gems worth of mithril, you got more skill points to play with which will help you fight krakens, it is easier now to ascend, and you can take all those useless good or evil Commander respect items we've been getting in chests and now use them for something, ascending. The vouchers aren't bad. If they had told us in the beginning what the vouchers did, help to ascend commanders, then people would have been disappointed but not angry. I will never understand why they can never learn that communication is always a good thing.
But in fact as always with the correct communication and a healthy relationship between community and developers, everything could have gone better.
As for the commanders however, trust my technical analysis, the usable commanders are 15 out of 71...and this is not balancing...my main criticism is there...
The voucher was not what I expected I made it work to a advantage but as for leveling coms there was no real change
Thx for your objective review
I think the point was to give something that we've all been asking for for months and months, to make us believe that they finally listened to us, but then instead give something that is practically useless... it seems done on purpose, no one forced them to put something... but they chose to put them... done like that they are a joke.
I hope I explained my point of view, Don't you also think that the way they handled this thing was terrible?
@ombrartw I am disappointed I was expecting like it was last time I had alot going on and when it come out I was like wth it don't let us lower unused coms and level others hardly at all the only good part of it was the changes of relics and ascension but as for leveling and deleveling commanders to try and use with new changes it completely missed the point with that said this done can stay as is but give us a respec event for commanders like last time was like 15 levels right that's all we want I'll also be voicing it as well soon just got alot on atm in real life and family
Thank you so much for your videos - Praise GOD that you tell the truth....... The DEVS could easily turn this game into a great game if they only cared and listened to the community!
that's the only thing i asked, at the end of the video i speak directly to them and i just ask to listen to people :)
Great video my friend! I agree with you. 👍😎 Except for nerf Dain. I think he is good. I think troops, and healing commands need to be Buffed! You should have a good balance between, commander damage, troops leading commanders and healing commands or support. Healing is pretty useless in the game I find that sad. I personally think Dain is fine where he is. They need to buff other things to be closer to being good. Not the other way around. Just my own thoughts on it. Also I am afraid if they "nerf Dain" it won't be a well done balance but just end up destroying him as a good commander in the process. I think like what they did here with legolas and saruman should be the goal! Make the commanders who are terrible into good competitive ones! 😊 Cheers great video!
I also fully agree with the respect return. What you said here is what they should have done!
Я тратил деньги на Арагорна и поднял его до 12 ранга, а после обновления он стал слабым на фоне остальных и мне не дали его разобрать. Разработчики с одной стороны что то делают хорошее, а с другой бьют тебя по голове.
Again the developers make another update to force players to spend more money. They don't respect the player. Please good players, get together with leaders and UA-camrs to spread the word that the update is good! It's a shame what they do to the player, they don't respect the money and time spent on the player.
Thank you for being objective and honest
ombra azog skills are for he is a evil faction, when new good comander will be super power for sure
Yes probably xd
Just glad they did legolas justice on paper. But gotta see results
Agzog shine also now, with more skill point and ppl that can bring them to Z1
Great video. Very dissapointing update.
Well since version 1.0 each update are more and more dissapointing and Bad 😂😅
What makes me angry is that in reality, as I said in the video, they did some good things, but those 2 or 3 mistakes are too big and ruin the whole update.
Yeah I went from fighting whales to getting spanked every battle overnight, for the second time 😂😂
I feel sad for a whole day too especially about the reversion voucher. The update is mainly focus on Free2play or smaller players. Now everyone gets much more skill points and more respects level in total. The good thing is now many ftp can enjoy fights and everyone gets to use a bit more balacened commanders. Probably the main thing is the total number of players is too low to open more server, so they made this update to recurit new and old players. Paid2win players are not there focus now. :(
I'm very happy with the nice things done for F2p and I really hope it attracts people, but as I said in the video, if you want people you have to have a nice and balanced game, so the real work to do is on the commanders to attract people and make them stay.
Hmm i ldk f2p didn't get anything out of this update. We almost didn't get vouchers at all(let's be honest f2p don't have a lot mythic commanders more then r5) and commanders what was 9-10r didn't went up to. Little bit more skill points earlier don't help either to fight whales because game is massive.
@@ombrartw There are some nice things for F2P and low spend players I agree. But there will always remain a massive imbalance that was much less so in the original version. And that is the 4 commander system, with 4 sets of great gear plus relics. The game will never have any balance at all while that is the case. As an example; in original version a thoughtful player could take out someone with x10 their spend with 2-3 commanders from their 5-6 good ones. Now those 5-6 well developed commanders can't even touch a higher spending player. Even if the player could gather the required 8-12 well developed commanders they could still never compete with the equipment. Unless that is addressed in some way, and there are many solutions, there never will be any balance. I don't expect to be able to beat a kraken as a small spender, but against a mid-level spender and sometimes a high level spender with the right counter, I had a chance as a low spender. I'm not going to complain about it, well past that. Just pointing out the fact balance will never be achieved under the current model.
Devs, each of your actions destroyed the game!
When are you going to stop for a minute and listen to the community?
It was a really good game...
My last question is, what is your real objective? Nobody understands you...
1- give vouchers of universal respect.
2- refund the unique and respective items.
3- put an end to 1.0 equipment
4- finish off the formations of four commanders.
There's still time to save the game and the community that loves it and is loyal to it!
Take a step back to take a thousand steps forward!!!
Its not the devs it's the guys who make the rules that devs only follow.
Купоны на обмен просто ужасные, это буквально неуважение к игрокам.
Hey Ombra, you gotta test this for the community :
If you reverse a ascended commander with relic. What will you get back from this relic?
worn gear xd another bad thinks xd
Ahhh dang, sad things lol
Мне интересно,они правда не понимают что такие купоны на сброс это просто смешно?
the funny thing is that they were made aware of our opinions, as I say in the video, but they ignored us :(
El tema de los cupones es un insulto. Solo pierden jugadores haciendo esas tonterias. No tiene sentido.
I completely agree, it makes no sense, it's a move that also has no return for them, but only an economic loss..
@@ombrartw Pues tendremos que esperar a que bajen los jugadores para que reaccionen. Puede que sea la única forma real ya que no escuchan a la comunidad.
Quiza sea hora de tomarse unas vacaciones del juego...
We are on the same server 🙏 . And yeah everyone expected somwthing different. And devs screw this up
I mean, on the Update thers good thinks, but they ruined the good things by getting the 2 or 3 most important ones wrong.
@@ombrartw yeah converting system should be 1:1 . Also i am not able to improve my formation. Becouse i will not exchnage my R items for nothin. I excpect for example i could bring my ascencion down from gimli and get back 40 daina items . Not just use my existed items 😃 that is total crap.
Wie schätzt ihr azog ein in einem Ranking? weiss noch nicht ob ich ihn holen soll für nrp.... zusätzlich was denkt ihr von Isildur? Mit Gondor und schwänen ist er ein biest! aber ohne?
the devs just dont play the game and hence do not understand it the problems.. sadly
most i know just play because of the grown community, but it gets smaller every patch.
The command stat mod on skills completely changed qurwan but they forgot the relic. New commander r5 requires you to have best hitting troop as slowest??
Changed but still unusable in the meta, trust me I tried it at high level and it's still useless....at least now it's not a troll anymore, that's true.
And agian no response from those shlthead dev team
To be fair I’m ok with the vouchers. I use them for ascending my commanders.
Ty for your feedback,I really appreciate it when people like you politely give their point of view, especially if they disagree with mine.
Это просто плевок в лицо игрокаи.
what specifically?
@@ombrartw я про то,что они не дали нормальные ваучеры уважения.
At least gothmog became more useful again
the thing is, buffing a commander by 10-15-20% when he's about 400% behind a Dain...but that doesn't put him in a position to be usable.
hey Ombra, wich Program u use to play the game so smooth on pc ?
Did they also reduce again respect obtained from invitations, or I am wrong? I remember they were back to 3k and 1k for mythic and legendary, now they give 1500 and 500.
Because it's based on the amount to unlock. It's now 1500 and 500 to unlock so getting a voucher will only give that amount
For me totally useless update. I agree with that small good things what is done, but it's way to late. I'm f2p/super low spender. All months respect items was crashed and switched and with this respect vouchers the finally put me on place where I'm extremely weak and can change anything. I will finish my season and that's it. Not gonna play anymore.
Even if give up. Thanks for your video ❤
Time to leave the game for me. I am tired about devs doesnt take care about their community, it is what it is when u are playing a mobile game with microtransactions, money wins ever, gg for the video Ombra! Kaiser here
Stop spending. Only way we will change things and make them listen.
Do you have any same genre game your eyes on it ? Like after this game truly collapse again like 2.0
Also think Aragorn 2 look useable now
First Like than watch #OmbraArmy❤
Ty bro!
Have you calculated the damage potential for Legolas yet m8? Is he worth assending? And getting his unique bow item? 🤞 because I will get him assended right now if you say he’s worth it lol
How can they wont stop kill their player base with another upset update.
They need just listen the community :)
@@ombrartw Too late. They lost almost 4 Million USD after 1.0 every month from revenue not a good sign for me to spend anymore.
Hey ombra is Legolas now better than KOM?
How to get those vouchers? I got no in my store?
Bro how in the world can you put a creator code in this channel to make people spend more money on this game when we got shafted again! No good changes only bad
Not agree, you can just look at the video and see my opinion about the update...
@@ombrartw yeah thats fine, you can have that opinion no worries there. I got triggered by the creator code for people to spend more money on this game
What do you say abouth Torin r5 excange?
A terrible rework that made an already weak commander worse.
#RiseToBoycott #RiseToNoSpending
And Legolas R5 broken
O yes i see that on the report xd
Hey can you share the latest commander rankings? Would be very useful for us ❤
dude i think you are over reacting ombra … yes the way they did the vouchers sucks, but lowering the mithril req’d to get a relic is huge, the comms have more points thats huge, its super easier now to ascend lower grade tiers ,,, not perfect but i think it was good and at least they are trying
I appreciate your opinion, I think the way it was handled was terrible.
Overall my main criticism was not about the Vouchers, but about how they reworked the commanders, which in my opinion was not done correctly, in fact only 15 commanders out of 72 are currently considered usable.
Azog 3rd skill + Relic will make him relevant no matter what
No couse the relic improve only toops damage of Azog, and troop damage is not playable.
is not worth invest on a command for 1,5 skill, for a support commander that deal sauron thinks but worst.
@ombrartw you say 1.5 but he literally only has 1 skill that's utterly terrible. The other 2 are still ok. He just has 1 GOOD skill. 2 ok skills and 1 good can still be viable. I would like if he instead boosted comms and troops tho
Une honte
The problem is that there are good things in the patch, but they made mistakes that completely ruin the good things that were done.
Stop crying about those vouchers. Devs helped a lot of f2ps and medium spenders to boost their comms. I see only whales crying, because they thought they will boost their Dain from z10 to z11😂
The only thing they helped was boost current respect value, if we have universal vouchers it would even benefit f2p since they can pull their respect into one formation instead of having it all spread out
@@zephyroX24 true, but it also allows krakens to move all their respect from their useless comms into meta comms and make it even more impossible to fight against them
This is my first season. But even i can see this is a bad change. Whales are mad they can't get an extra zenith level, f2p players should be mad we can't pool bad rolls into into useful commanders and often get stuck with sub optimal armies widening the gap between whales and f2p even farther.
@Nikita___818 except its already impossible to fight against them, having commanders past z1 makes no sense anymore, since they'd just skill into something useless, it would instead allow people to experiment with new builds and not be so afraid and only build meta
@@zephyroX24 with those “vouchers cry” people are really missing out on good things. It became easier to ascend comms, as a medium spender, before I wasn’t able to ascend anyone. More skill points at lower respect lvl (that’s a big help for f2ps). At least some rework of troop comms. It’s just funny for me seeing people in discord crying that they can’t get respect out of their z11 thorins😂😂
Bro parla italiano
I like the update. If the developers allowed people to remove all respect from one commander and simply place it into another commander. Then all players would build the same meta-commanders and we be in the same boat that we are now. These new changes are good for low spenders and free to play players and those that already had meta did not get hurt.