Liftgate Race Trailer Review! The Truth about Racing out of a Stacker
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
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A suggestion….. put a d ring at the end of the lift gate and a snatch block. Hook the winch cable up to rear bumper and you can pull the car out onto the gate. Maybe??
That is a good idea, and I do recall someone I was working with that had a setup much like what you are describing...
Whats up Tim Nash , didn't know you watch HTF , cool suggestion and hoping for a win your way too
I’ve thought about that, Nash; the problem is the lift gate flips out for a reason. The car is longer than the lift gate so to install a pulley you wouldn’t be able to strap the back bumper bar as the car is too long if that makes sense.
@@curtlyons9235 yep that does, but, it would get the car over the small hump in the trailer yay or nay
Yeah. If you can even get the car halfway out on a winch it seems like it would be a big help.
We also just purchased a lift gate and also had the issue with it leaking off. We then rebuilt the cylinder and it still leaks off. But we have learned that if you raise the liftgate all the way up like 5 inches above that 2nd floor that it will lock in there and not leak off. I hope this helps. Have a great day!
Should be a place to put the big lower pins back in when gate is up so it can't drop
Y’all, we will see ya at fairbury for the PDC July 30-31!! It’s an awesome place, bring lots of merch!! 🍻🍻 Cheers
Collaboration vlogs. Heck yeah
The Hunt the Front comedy special. It was fun to watch.
Sending my condolences and prayers for your grandma.
PVC racks for the springs about the only thing you can do with the gears is Peg them. For your door drop there should be two holes to put the catch pins in. 3in on PVC.
Build a shelf for the gears is a better option
Y'ALL ARE GOING TO FAIRBURY??? WOOOHOOOOO, Let's goooooo, I'm so excited
"When two dissimilar metals are touching, the electrolyte will jump-start the corrosion process." Steel bolt`s, aluminum heads, Use some anti-seize on the bolt threads to prevent future bolt probs..Same with spark plug threads (very small amount needed)
When you are at the track check out those guys trailers!! There must be someone you know that has a stacker. I still can’t believe a race team without a welder!! Weld up the exhaust and put it back on!! A lot of time you guys make things more difficult then need be.
Yep, MIG it and off you go.
@@tomhutchins1046 I'd just MIG it at the track and get a new one when I get home. Anybody can MIG, it takes practice to TIG. My wife MIGS.
There should be holes for the pins to be put in to keep the gate up. If I remember correctly, you actually raise it up past the second floor, put pins in, the rest the gate on them.
Consider installing a Safety Chain from the upper floor of the trailer to the Lift Gate when you are working under it. That should be easy to do and provide a little safety if a hydraulic hose should blow out.
Don't forget to take the restricter plate out before you race again.
@@tomhutchins1046 you’re cool 😎
HTF!!! Y'all are freaking awesome!!!! Please don't stop what y'all are doing.....
Looks like its more of a hassle than the black trailer. Beautiful set-up y'all got though and congratulations to HTF crew! Y'all deserved to have a stacker! My son and I love to watch all y'alls videos. Would love to see y'all come to Davenport Speedway in Davenport, Iowa and come run with the big boys and good payouts also and ALOT of competition!
I’m sure y’all will remember to remove the restrictor plate but just wanted to send a reminder just in case. Love the channel and content!!
Hi from SC.. Love the video.. If the toter is straining carrying one car, it probably won't be a good idea to try to go a fairly long distance from home the first time taking 2 cars.. Congratulations on how far y'all have come... SAFETY FIRST!!!! Certainly can't have any of y'all being injured!! Keep the video's coming 🤗❤️ Really happy with that 2nd place because the car is intact!!! GOD BLESS EACH OF YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES AND CREW NOW AND ALWAYS 🙏 HTF and looking for ANOTHER WIN🏁🏆🏁
There should be a way to lock the lift gate when it's up. I never keep my hydraulics under load, why wear out the pistons. If there is a small leak, it will just get worse.
Aren't the louvered doors made for gas or batteries? Wouldn't want something that emits fumes to be in an enclosed space that small.
You should shut everything off before starting the generator. Never turn off with a load on it.
Well, I don't have any ideas that have not been mentioned already. I would make some type of safety mechanism to insure that liftgate does not fall on you. Great video. Don't forget about that restrictor plate. God bless.
Now y'all need a good wrap on your trailer showcasing all three cars. "Jesus Lives" on the back. Congrats guys!!!
It's not legal
@@kevinpotts151 Not Legal? Why?
It's not allowed under RV status if they put stickers on it will be commercial and then you have to keep log book and commercial insurance dmv is cracking down hard these days...competitionplus.com/drag-racing/news/4275-florida-dot-race-rig-enforcements.
best thing to do is get with someone that has alot of time with that type of trailer and have them give you help on how they do it. great job guys keep up the great videos from Minnesota
Yes...it is..I cant believe how much..you all have come in a short time...your racing program is growing..you have 3 great cars..no junk...your competing with the pros...that super car..is So fast...I'm glad I've had the opportunity to watch you all...grow...Go HTF....
I like that trailer plenty of room.good luck this weekend.
Oh yeah, hook up a master disconnect to the generator. That way, you can completely remove the load before start up and shut down. I learned the hard way. Started mine up one day with the air compressor still plugged in, and the added strain, couples with low/no oil pressure at start up, slung the rod right out the side of the block!! AND, DONT FORGET THE RESTRICTOR PLATE!!! Good luck at Whynot this weekend!!!
Be better of yall lay the spoiler down. We had to do it for the steering arm to work in our rig. We got Scott Blomquist old trailer
I am subscribed to you guys and I watch all your videos
-To store springs in my trailer, I made a " pigeon hole " type rack from PVC pipe. Just get pipe that will fit your springs inside, lay them side by side, and prime and glue them together. The first one I made by stacking the rows and just using PVC cement. Springs being heavy and roads being bumpy meant we found a broken spring rack when we got to the track. The second one was built the same way, but we put it between 3/8 plywood walls. This was used for years. hope this helped. As for the gears, remember the old VHS tapes and the racks they were stored in? Build the same style rack scaled up for gear cases. Caution, just use cases with center pins to keep the gears apart.
They sell those cases. Most race shops should carry them.
For your springs, use 6 inch pvc pipe bolted together. Search Bauer PVC air bottle holder. Good luck!
For your gear situation i would use the Allstar Performance Gear Box. You can put multiple gears in each box which is very helpful. We have got 4 boxes and it holds all of the gears from a 4.86 to the top gear.
If your coming to Fairbury i will definitely come to meet y'all.. Thats only 45 minutes from me so i will have to root you all on 😊... We feel special this week getting several video's now don't spoil us too much Johnathon, but very excited to see y'all as much as possible so good luck at Whynot
Springs-Plywood and some pvc at a slope and cover the face with carpet. Super easy and will look great, put the dyno next to it in that cabinet. Put shocks next to it the same way. We always just made a tray and stacked the gears up right or a pin board style on the side of the cabinet.
I cry a little inside everytime ya'll slam that gate down.
You guys should come race at the Silver Dollar Nationals at I-80 Speedway sometime.
I was thinking the same thing put the pins back in someplace to take the pressure off the hydraulics if anything call the mfg give them the serial number and they should be able to tell you everything about that trailer
looks like I'm going to Fairbury. See you there
I've been here since 30k subs and its amazing on how far you guys have came on your career!
I'm so pumped for you all to come to Illinois at the end of the month. Bring a lot of large shirts. I'll be there to meet the HTF crew. Dont be sad if you don't enough for the Illinois boys.
That is awesome that your coming to fairbury for the pdc I live five 5 miles from that truck I really hope I get to meet you guys you will absolutely live that track
Excellent job gettin the sponsor banners in the videos.
That’s a new pump in that trailer. That gate always came down a little bit. That shelf is where I also put the gears. I built that shelf. Was a ac unit in there at one point in time. I still have the shelf for the springs that sat in there. Don’t slam that ramp down like that. I had it broke on me once and had to replace it. We bought that trailer brand new.
What we have done with headers,is towards the back around the turndown area? Weld a washer on it and hook a stiff spring on it to the chassis,helps carry some of the weight!!
A suggestion for when you guys are going up to the top to get the car. Loop the remote around the long chain holding the door up. And it will stay up there while you unload.
You can get round PVC pipe for your springs.
Practice , it will be second nature in time , your setup is coming along , proud of you all .😀😀
Get a locked toolbox for your gears and label the outside drawers and for your lift gate it wouldn't hurt to get a couple hand crank load bars that you can put under the doors towards the trailer that way it would help with taking pressure away from your pumps and use load bars to secure cars in the trailer
You can put the gears in the bottom drawer of the tool drawer section. Then use dividers to organize them on their sides spine up. Then use decals or labels to put ratios on spine of gear case. You can put 4.86 sets on left and 4.11 on the right if you carry both
Man UA-cam is paying real good to be able to be picking up these big boy toys, haulers nice be blessed , thanks BigAl California.
PVC pipe bolted together for the springs. Leave the front bolt long coming from the bottom of the pvc up to hold the spring in place
The more you use the trailer it will get easier. The 2nd chain is a good idea. Good Luck this weekend.
You could make foam shadow boards for the gears similar to how you would do foam boards for toolboxs. You could go as far as etching metal tags to label all the spots for the gears for quick grab and go.
For your safety I would fashion a mechanical lockout to prevent that lift gate from sagging. I wouldn't work under that gate as is, looks too sketchy. Enjoy watching you guys. Good luck and God Bless
Its just growing pains! You guys are good at this so hang in there.As for all the comments about a bigger motor I guess the move at senoia proved that its not always about a bigger motor.JJ and crew made a great call to dial back the power and it payed off.As for the nemesis at the track,its always good to have a reason to get better it makes you hungry and hungry is good! When you win the day its just that much sweeter! Keep up the good works and keep the faith it will happen. As always GOD BLESS BE SAFE AND REMEMBER HTF NATION IS ALWAYS THERE!
Hey guys. Might carch you live at Fairbury. The best concept ive seen for gear storage was a shelf that you could put on a pair of heavy duty sliders. Then each set of gears sits on a welded stem with the big gear on bottom and little on top. Then you can lable tbe gear in front of each one . I will try to draw a pic .
In the cabinet for your springs you can use PVC pipe stack them on top each other
We had a cabinet that had rods for your gears that came straight out and then hooks for the springs and have cotter pins so they won't come loose during transportation, but we had a cabinet that was mounted up front by the tire rack
We used old plastic vhs cases to hold our gears. We would write the ratios on the out side so it made it easier to find.
As people have said the cylinders can cause the deck to drop. But I would change out the spool valve on the power pack first. Fixed a lot of deck dropping issues with spool valves. Also change the oil out, never hurts to do that on equipment new to you.
HRP makes a panel you can mount on the wall or maybe a cabinet door for the gears.
I watched one roll off years ago.. Front bumper stuck on the lift rear was on the ground.. all the way up... He still won national points that year...
Pro tip: put Velcro on back of control box and inside trailer to hold controller while you move the car on the ramp.
What I've always found the best thing to do with those stackers is to keep the tires on some sort of wheelie rack in the hallway of the trailer then when you get to the track you just wheel it out and put it up top where the car was
Keep on learning the trailer guys. Now that was a funny video😂
Cut a couple pieces of extruded aluminum and put them between the floor and the gate while it’s open till ya get time or money to get the whole hydraulic system serviced
We always put our spring smasher on the rear. It was always on the left side rear of trailer. We mounted ours there.
Should be using ARP stainless STUDS instead of header bolts. Have been using them for over 30 years and never had an issue. Never have to mess around to align a header, just slide it on and be sure to use the washers and nuts that come with them. I use the 12 point nuts, they have 12 or 6 point to chose from. You may want change your mind before you start tearing threads out of the cyl. heads....
We use pvc tubes for the springs with a steel rack built around them to hold everything in place
Ya’ll should get some aluminum plating, 1/8”, to put on exterior porch where the door closing chains hang to keep from scratching the walls up.
Or plastic (different colors available), it's changeable at any given point - think roll plastic (skirting/trim)... add sponsor logos even :) (or Wife/SO quotes or sayings [read as "warnings" - I mean "reminders"] Great Idea. Like the way you think!
Or just add a couple of hooks/ loops up top and never drop the chain
Mike gary Or you could just do it like every S&S in the world. Very effective and relatively cheap.
suggestion... put a hook on the side/back of the trailer on the second level to hang your remote so it doesn't fall on the ground.
Make sure every light is lite on truck trailer dot can fine you for every light not operating
GET YA A WINE COOLER FOR THE SPRINGS ! SHOULD BE ALRIGHT
I would recommend getting the hydraulic cylinders rebuilt
For the springs you can use PVC pipe with caps on one end. Screw those to Plywood, cut to fit the place you have for them.
Nice set-up be nice to see y'all at Screven Motor Speedway for the rebel yell with 2 cars
YES!!!! PLEASE!!!!
We have the tether on our lift gate and it works great never had a problem with it
I’ve seen a lot of people use pvc pipe to hold the springs it’s be cheap and easy to make. The gear situation could do a few things. I saw one guy bolt a piece of flat stock to wall and he had a bunch of basically studs welded off it at an angle upwards and it hung like 10 sets of gears
You guys could put two chains that hook into d-rings at the front of the lift gate that attach to the trailer itself to hold the lift gate from dropping down and just set the chain length however long you want to have good working clearance below and it would serve as your extra chains to help hold it too
There is t some kind of latch , like on a regular car lift, that hold the lift gate in the up position? Also, if you fold the ramps back up, you want have as much weight hanging that far away...not as much leverage for the door to work against. Love the trailer. So happy for you guys!!! #HTFNation rocks!!!
I noticed Mr Cox left his West Virginia tags on the hauler👍
i love the sound of 180 headers and help the valves open little more hp that is what you need
Watching you shut down generator made me cringe. It's not good on the circuit boards in the generator when shut down under a load. You should disconnect all power from generator before shutting down. Same goes when first starting up generator. Don't start under a load.
This is the truest comment !!!!!! I cant imagine that all that is hardwired , has to be switches somewhere
It’ll smoke one fast. Also a generator you really don’t know everything about it’s past or honestly I never start one without checking the oil and water. Those Onan gensets are pretty dependable and I’ve been on 36 years on shrimp boats and many different generators from 1, 2 and 4 cylinder hand crank lister generators to 6 cylinder Detroit 671 generators and I’d have to say I’ve seen people kill quite a few not check oil but most of them were ruined or needed repairs from starting and shutting them down under a load.
I used pvc pipe to hold shocks and springs. 3 or 4 inch pipe. And the gears used a small cabinet and stack them like dvds left to right from lowest to highest
I see a steering buddy in your future
Can't wait to see y'all in Illinois at Fairbury!
Concider this for support, some kinda post under 4 corners. Of the 1st section from trailor to the outer section take All Strain off your hydrolic system and safer, creatively present place for T Shirts to be hung., lights, - the car will be out past the last post/support.
Get a bolt bin to hold the springs. Make the rear tool chest mobile, or pull it out and fit yours in its place. Definitely get the hydraulics looked at, but my suggestion would be either leave it down or make some legs to support it, you don’t want it to fail while people are underneath it. And lastly, surely you could make one of the other cabinets house the smasher, possibly make it on one side of the cabinet you showed the springs in now, with the other side as storage.
For the springs, attach pvc pipe to some marine plywood with an o.d. that your springs will fit in and slide your springs into the tubes for transport. Or you could have it build in aluminum, either way tubes that your springs will fit in for transport. Kinda the same for the gear sets, a rack for the gear sets stand up on end with the ratios written on the end of the box/carton showing.
You put steel rods in place of the shocks or use a ratchet strap to pull down on the car from the shock mount on the rear end so it sucks the car down and it still rolls just no up and down it’s locked in place
I don't know how the lift gate works but it seems that it should be able to be locked into place as a safety precaution in case a line or seal blows out. I have investigated a fatality or two in my career with OSHA when someone was under something held up by hydraulics that failed. Not a pretty sight when that happens.
Use metal studs light gauge to do any kind of framing very easy to work with
You should show us a video on how you clean that stacker trailer
I think you should have secondary adjustable post under rear hoist for more support for safety purposes.🙂
You guys should put the USA nationals at cedar lake on your schedule. 1st week in august 👍🏻
Great videos I wish there was a new one to watch everyday after work lol keep up the good work.
Pro Tip you guys are going to burn the pump out by leaving it running while just sitting there wrap the controller around the chain while up there also they make a locking pin where you drill a hole under the posts of the door and you set the back of the door on it so it doesn’t seep down springs they make a cabinet insert where you put pvc pipes in it
On the leak down on the door check your hold valve make sure they are not leaking could be need cylinder repack good looking trailer raced out of one like that its nice to have
Go HTF
Alot of weight hanging that's not bad. Good luck boys if I lived close I would come an help. Be safe🙏👍
You didn't mess up closing the door, you guys are all too short, lol Just teasing. I feel that the trailer has too many cabinets for the stuff you guys need to take. Our stacker only had half the storage, and we could put 2 cars up top and one on the bottom too if needed
I sure do like that sticker on the back of the spoiler!
Supported or unsupported headers will have a tendency to crack at transition points due to the harmonics, Get a good welder and keep inspecting them. As far as the gears, most boxes are the same size, Small box tubing and light weight angle iron, make a rack for the gears.
It's easy to see that Jess is the little brother and you all are his big brothers .. yup jess get ready to race this weekend at motorsports . Sweet.
I had no idea you guys were coming to Fairbury you guys are going to love it I can not wait to meet you guys I live two blocks from the track and we will be there racing a modified I’d love to be in one of your guys video when you come to Fairbury!
Hey guys,,, try loading it backwards using the long steering wheel and gator bait can come down the hatch..