Wow!! What a fount of useful and much needed information! I'm 78 and grew up in Southwestern Ohio. I knew farmers that were generations on the land. The pastures were never touched, even in the fall to break the weed seed cycle. Year round there was just a minimum of vegetative growth....even in the Spring when things should be exploding out of the ground... there was nothing. Back in the 40s and 50s chisel plowing and deep ripping were unknown. The man I worked when I was in highschool, bless his heart, just didn't know any better. He did what his dad and granddad had done. The results were minimal, but they didn't know how to change the way they did things. It's like the old thing, "Well, we've always done "it" that way. Well, then you've always been wrong." Working by precedent is only good and right if that precedent is grounded in good and right thinking.
This was extremely educational. Appreciate your report and research. It has given me an directive on how to approach the matter in my situation. Thanks.
Thanks for making the video! Very informative. I hope you follow up with more on how you continue to repair the soil from the abuse, i.e. getting more organic matter in the soil, lowering soil density, etc. Having grown up on a SD ranch I have been a huge follower of Dr. Dwayne Beck and his research in repairing and no till farming. The ripping obviously is a form of tillage but maybe a necessary one to get the repair started and then maybe needed for a while until the soil gets repaired. The soil didn't get damaged in a few years and won't get repaired a just a few either but I appreciate you making the efforts to do it right.
Thank you for sharing the study and results! If you can build swales and ponds then over a period of time deep soil ripping is not needed . Thought of sharing !! Good luck
Both Keyline and the Ripper are Australian inventions. Yeomans was his name. Was he regarded as a radical? Hell yeah. Arguably the greatest mind in the history of Regen Ag, and that's a lot of competition. Thankfully many have since listened to his and other voices.
irrigation+rainfall = evaporation + transpiration + runoff + leaching Which one of these processes do Farmers really have control over during the growing season? If you have the ability to irrigate your sandy soils and water is cheap and plentiful, then you are fortunate and have some control on the left side of the equation. If you do not have irrigation, you must look at the factors on the right side of the equation to see what can be controlled or minimized to benefit your crop. Evaporation from the soil surface can be reduced with mulch or leaving crop residue on the soil surface. Transpiration is a function of the plant leaf surface area and the weather. Runoff is or should be minimal in sandy textured soils with high percolation rates. This leaves the leaching of water out of the root zone as the #1 controllable loss of moisture to your crop. Interrupting the downward movement of moisture in your soil by installing a "smart" barrier can greatly reduce the leaching of water and nutrients. SWRT subsurface membranes detain/retain up to 90% of irrigation or rainfall in the root zone for crop use by disrupting the gravitational movement of water in the soil while still allowing excess water to percolate and do not create anaerobic soil conditions.
Only problem with ripping on established pastures is when it doesn’t rain afterwards and the existing roots completely dry out and die. You have made the conditions worse. Happened to us on coastal Bermuda
What about increased organic matter, crop rotations with deep rooted species to break hard pans and bring up deeper water reserves... what about nitro radish to open up the top 15cm? I would like to see long term (10-15) year studies on soil ripping effects on soil health indicators. Was this research published?
Nobody on UA-cam posts follow up videos. It’s so easy to show a “how to” video when no one will see the lack of results. There are thousands of ‘how to plant” videos and very few “look at the results” videos.
She literally tells you the results of the study in the video and you can see how improved her pond area was after she ripped the soil by the before and after pictures. These people are farmers, not "content creators."
@@We_are_the_light I have never experienced where ripping made plow pan worse. Ripping wet soil has no benefit. For me ripping in my clay loam has always eliminated compaction, greatly increased water retention, and increased crop yields.
Another guy to look at is Peter Andrews and his natural sequence farming methods. Wish I could rip, but would be pulling up rockd bigher than the tractor. Great work but listening seems you only have limited species?
I don’t know if you’re still in business, if so, congratulations. Hopefully you have read “Water for Every Farm”. By PA Yeomans (who invented “Keyline”). Wish I’d known about your place last year when I spent 3 months in the US. My son loved the land in the Texas hill country when he did his exchange in the US.
Do you use swales anywhere? I have been watching an Australian guy, Polyculture Farms Dryland Permaculture, that uses both swales and deep soil ripping.
@@colmanlong1032 Think wide shallow ditches built on contour to capture and slow the water. They aren't meant to hold it long term like a dam, more like a leaky weir. Just something to slow the water so it has more time to soak into the ground. You will have less run off which means less errosion and more long term soil moisture.
I don 't think so as it has been practiced in Australia for over 60 years...Keyline design ...was invented by an Australian farmer...PA YEOMANS .in the 1950s ..read his books...he makes it easy to understand.
If you can plant cover crops with long root development AFTER deep ripping, then the root growth should sustain the break up of the existing hardpan. Also, the deep root growth should add organic matter to the soil at all depths.
They can, if you use a straight shank narrow tip and go deep enough to get under the pan it breaks it though. Definitely best to dig a hole and find the layer first
Wow!! What a fount of useful and much needed information! I'm 78 and grew up in Southwestern Ohio. I knew farmers that were generations on the land. The pastures were never touched, even in the fall to break the weed seed cycle. Year round there was just a minimum of vegetative growth....even in the Spring when things should be exploding out of the ground... there was nothing. Back in the 40s and 50s chisel plowing and deep ripping were unknown. The man I worked when I was in highschool, bless his heart, just didn't know any better. He did what his dad and granddad had done. The results were minimal, but they didn't know how to change the way they did things. It's like the old thing, "Well, we've always done "it" that way. Well, then you've always been wrong." Working by precedent is only good and right if that precedent is grounded in good and right thinking.
This was extremely educational. Appreciate your report and research. It has given me an directive on how to approach the matter in my situation. Thanks.
Thanks for making the video! Very informative. I hope you follow up with more on how you continue to repair the soil from the abuse, i.e. getting more organic matter in the soil, lowering soil density, etc. Having grown up on a SD ranch I have been a huge follower of Dr. Dwayne Beck and his research in repairing and no till farming. The ripping obviously is a form of tillage but maybe a necessary one to get the repair started and then maybe needed for a while until the soil gets repaired. The soil didn't get damaged in a few years and won't get repaired a just a few either but I appreciate you making the efforts to do it right.
Salt may be removed from the surface.
Thank you for sharing the study and results! If you can build swales and ponds then over a period of time deep soil ripping is not needed . Thought of sharing !! Good luck
Both Keyline and the Ripper are Australian inventions. Yeomans was his name. Was he regarded as a radical? Hell yeah. Arguably the greatest mind in the history of Regen Ag, and that's a lot of competition. Thankfully many have since listened to his and other voices.
I’ve always used it to clear up wet spots, would have never guessed it would work the other way with severe droughts too, good to know
Keyline design ...was invented by an Australian farmer...PA YEOMANS .in the 1950s ..read his books...he makes it easy to understand...
You may know this ! When dad was farming he pulled a chisel across each field twice (different angle each time). He raised good crops!!!!!
Great and very helpful video, thanks for sharing it
irrigation+rainfall = evaporation + transpiration + runoff + leaching
Which one of these processes do Farmers really have control over during the growing season? If you have the ability to irrigate your sandy soils and water is cheap and plentiful, then you are fortunate and have some control on the left side of the equation. If you do not have irrigation, you must look at the factors on the right side of the equation to see what can be controlled or minimized to benefit your crop. Evaporation from the soil surface can be reduced with mulch or leaving crop residue on the soil surface. Transpiration is a function of the plant leaf surface area and the weather. Runoff is or should be minimal in sandy textured soils with high percolation rates.
This leaves the leaching of water out of the root zone as the #1 controllable loss of moisture to your crop. Interrupting the downward movement of moisture in your soil by installing a "smart" barrier can greatly reduce the leaching of water and nutrients. SWRT subsurface membranes detain/retain up to 90% of irrigation or rainfall in the root zone for crop use by disrupting the gravitational movement of water in the soil while still allowing excess water to percolate and do not create anaerobic soil conditions.
I'm going to try using my sub solar around my pond area to see if I can trap water in and create a better water table against against the walls
Only problem with ripping on established pastures is when it doesn’t rain afterwards and the existing roots completely dry out and die. You have made the conditions worse. Happened to us on coastal Bermuda
What about increased organic matter, crop rotations with deep rooted species to break hard pans and bring up deeper water reserves... what about nitro radish to open up the top 15cm? I would like to see long term (10-15) year studies on soil ripping effects on soil health indicators. Was this research published?
VERY interesting!
Megan -- it’s currently 2021 - have there been additional studies/observations since the video completed in 2018?
Nobody on UA-cam posts follow up videos. It’s so easy to show a “how to” video when no one will see the lack of results. There are thousands of ‘how to plant” videos and very few “look at the results” videos.
She literally tells you the results of the study in the video and you can see how improved her pond area was after she ripped the soil by the before and after pictures. These people are farmers, not "content creators."
Nice information
Great video. We are looking at ripping to help offset compaction. Thanks again.
Sometimes it makes it worse
@@We_are_the_light I have never experienced where ripping made plow pan worse. Ripping wet soil has no benefit. For me ripping in my clay loam has always eliminated compaction, greatly increased water retention, and increased crop yields.
Another guy to look at is Peter Andrews and his natural sequence farming methods.
Wish I could rip, but would be pulling up rockd bigher than the tractor.
Great work but listening seems you only have limited species?
Excellent content.
Btw, hopefully, you have taken advantage of Alan Savory and his Holistic Management presence in Texas?
Very interesting.
Still have my grandfather's subsoilers he used back in the 50s and 60s
Great information 👍
these pics are more about ground cover or the lack of
I don’t know if you’re still in business, if so, congratulations. Hopefully you have read “Water for Every Farm”. By PA Yeomans (who invented “Keyline”). Wish I’d known about your place last year when I spent 3 months in the US. My son loved the land in the Texas hill country when he did his exchange in the US.
Maybe have some video of the later look of the areas?
Do you use swales anywhere? I have been watching an Australian guy, Polyculture Farms Dryland Permaculture, that uses both swales and deep soil ripping.
Apparently this has fewer downsides
What are swales.
@@colmanlong1032 Think wide shallow ditches built on contour to capture and slow the water. They aren't meant to hold it long term like a dam, more like a leaky weir. Just something to slow the water so it has more time to soak into the ground. You will have less run off which means less errosion and more long term soil moisture.
Plenty of room here for 10,000 trees. They are a great generational crop that would benefit those kiddos when they are 45yrs old.
WELDONE AND POWERFUL.....
Why aren’t you using NATIVE GRASSES? The root systems of native grasses help water penetration!
So do non natives
Gabe Brown and multi - population species
weldon
Yeah nah
Ripping can make the plowpan worse
Could you elaborate on that?
I don 't think so as it has been practiced in Australia for over 60 years...Keyline design ...was invented by an Australian farmer...PA YEOMANS .in the 1950s ..read his books...he makes it easy to understand.
If you can plant cover crops with long root development AFTER deep ripping, then the root growth should sustain the break up of the existing hardpan. Also, the deep root growth should add organic matter to the soil at all depths.
@@greg3wilson768 wow nice insight! thank you mister
They can, if you use a straight shank narrow tip and go deep enough to get under the pan it breaks it though. Definitely best to dig a hole and find the layer first