Hey Seth, this was fun! I've learned a lot from you, so it was nice to return the favor for a change. For anyone else viewing, please leave any questions you have here in the comment section. I'll hang around and try to clarify anything that wasn't clear in the video!
I'm 40-ish and training 15h / week ONLY on the table but I lack explosiveness and I feel like your training program is the key I'm missing so I'd like to start incorporating it this summer. I know that every body is different and, preferably, we'd all want a tailored training program but do you have a link to a generic repetitive training program that I could start playing around with (before going custom)?
Hello I have a question, arent you supposed to do the strength work AFTER the cardio stuff? because if you got fatigued before the strength workout, you won't be able to generate the same output?
@@yagzyalcntas553 Yes, you are. However, speed work is NOT considered "cardio." Speed work is much more similar to resistance training: short attempts, longer rest periods. Cardio, or conditioning work, is much longer in duration (or uses intervals with shorter rest periods). The order you should put exercises in is Speed/agility/power stuff first, then strength, then accessory work, then conditioning.
As a tremendously out of shape guy who tires out within one minute of multi-balling. I really appreciate this video. I want to use table tennis to whip myself into shape.
i never thought that i would stay 50mins on one video. thank you for sharing this wonderful knowledge this helps me a lot and i will integrate this to my routine. keep going..
Super high quality content! For real, I don't think there is another table tennis youtube channel with so much useful information out there. Thank you so much!
I've been fortunate enough to have known Kevin though social media for years & can definitely recommend him for PT work & his book specifically for table tennis training
Thanks for this video! You are literally the only person on UA-cam to have done a video on proper conditioning for table tennis. I even asked a popular coach (I won't name person) from Europe to do a video like this, and he/she said no, saying that this kind of video wouldn't be popular enough and wouldn't get enough views. He/she said people want to go right into table tennis games and tips. Nice to see that he was wrong and I was right! 8,500 views so far and it's only been a few days! Question: What's the difference between "power" and "strength"?
Thanks! Strength is how much sheer force you can produce against a load. POWER is how much force can you produce, *quickly*, (force x distance / time). So it's like a marriage of strength and speed.
@@PeakPerformanceTableTennis So it's kind of like when I see a 13 yr old girl at the club (I train in the same group as her) put tons of power on the ball, and then I try the same thing and sometimes am not able to deliver power as much as she does (sometimes I AM able, btw, but she does it more consistently than me), even though I know in terms of strength I'm at least 10 times stronger than her.
@@ramonbmovies That would have more to do with technique and timing I would say. There are plenty of 13 year old players who can hit harder than me too!
I used to feel the same way, and almost felt guilty for having all this amazing content for free. So I started to either venmo Seth directly, or use the superthanks here. Because it takes time / effort and resources to curate this content and I feel like it deserves to be paid content.
This exercise information is super important Seth! Not only for Table tennis players, but also for general strength - agility - control. Many thanks for bringing these 🙏🏼⭐️⭐️⭐️🔥
Seth you've really outdone yourself on this one 👍 Small critique for next time, try to play both audio vocal tracks in stereo (as opposed to left & right) since it can become disturbing, especially when the speaker's side does not correspond to the side on screen.
Amazing work, Seth! You have the uncommon ability to explain well and clear, to remain humble, to share your authentic passion, to show all thinks by yourself, and to recognize and valorize experts. Really a great job. Cheers from Italy!
Amazing Videos covering so much about tabletennis. I can implement these drills for me as a player, but i will also include this drills in the kids training. Especially core strengh is something i see the kids not doing that good. A lot of kids nowadays just sit around all day, at home, in school etc. And since tabletennis normally doesnt attract the most athletic kids, most of the kids entering a club lack basic strengh/ muscle. We in our kids have amazingly talented kids, regarding their hand to eye coordination (compaired with other school kids, since im teacher for physical education i can judge this quite good), their underarm explosivness and their general feeling on the ball. But when i see exactly these kids, they (or lets say 90% of the really talented kids) lack basics strengh in their legs, hips, core and lower back. I need so start doing some kind of deadlift, squat and core stability stuff with them. Im pretty sure, this will help them a lot, getting better players! Doing deadlifts and squats in the gym lead to me playing from swiss 4th league to the 3rd in one season. I didnt even change something in my training routine on the table. Just hitting the gym, focusing on stability, max strengh and explosivness helped me a lot remaining in the lower position close to the table!
Wow, thanks man! Never seen a physical training guide for table tennis like this one, very detailed. How can I split my workouts throught the week (eg: upper/lower including pylometrics and sprints)?
With all the buzz around AI, you both demonstrated what technology cannot do. I really enjoyed this video and learned so much. I still don't get the theory behind the pogo jumps. But everything else was easy to pick up. Thank you Seth and Kevin!!
Yeah too much buzz, thanks for watching hope we can all improve with the stuff Kevin mentioned. The hopping is to make your moving on the table quicker. I would ask Kevin as he would be able to give the right terminology
For the pogos, it's about minimizing the time on the ground. To really tap into your "elastic strength," and reap the full athletic benefits of plyometrics, you need to be on the ground less than 0.25s. Your tendons store energy, but if you stay still, that energy goes away. Learning to get off the ground quickly with good mechanics helps you better utilize this "stored energy" and put it to your advantage (helping you change direction more quickly).
Oh my you had someone do camera work for you. Grats on the 20k subs too. That's _really_ good for a TT channel. Interesting by far your most viewed videos discuss technique like serve/return of serve and backhand etc. The least popular videos are matches with no graphic image. Probably tie matches to some sort of skill you want to display (as the recent videos have been) but perhaps put the skill and 'lesson' part sooner or mixed within the match? Hook em early!
Good job, guys! Quality way of giving information in understandable manner. Im really confused, how many people, that are playing TT, skipping that part of training - that is quality structured strength program, or any strength program at all. It will give you only benefits on the table: injury prevention, more power, explosiveness, increased speed and mobility - pure benefits, without losing anything. So, dear TT community, please, stop be so conservative, and lazy - just start to incorporate such type of training, as all other sports doing. Cheers, and good luck on the table everyone 💪🏼
Brilliant Video! tons of materials, informative, funny - I liked it very much. Thanks for almost 50 minutes of sharing knowledge. BTW Kevin's book is the best table tennis Strength and conditioning out there - go get it (I have read it twice already)
the medicine ball throw is my favorite, but I am throwing it into a brick wall in my gym, kinda shaking up the whole place 🤣 ... and for the jumping part I have started to do jumprope
That is close to one year ago now so I don't think that anyone would answer but I leave that there... There is any type of exercise that we can do when we are at home and alone that can help for agility ? Because when it's rainy pratically all the year and you don't have anyone to exercise with, except the gym strength there is nothing we can really improve. But great video I've learned a lot about how we should train !
Happened to pop in and see this comment! You could try an "agility ball." It's basically a bouncy ball with knobs on it so when you drop it, it will bounce unexpectedly. So you can drop it and/or bounce it off a wall and move quickly to catch it. That would help with agility and reaction a bit. Otherwise, just doing some change of direction work where you practice accelerating, stopping, and reversing can work in a small space. Shadow footwork is great too!
Super cool and informative video! At first, I was assuming the whole thing was going to be through zoom (which I don't like), but then video went crazy good (including video edition) I would suggest avoiding the mix with zoom when you have a great content face-to-face. Cheers!
Great video, it must have taken you a lot of time to do produce this video Seth, good job. Also in future you could maybe show us the full new gym routine with full intensity, when you get the hang of everything. Or maybe like a full day of training, table tennis and gym, so it's not same video. Again, amazing video! 😁
Honestly if you talked through a routine as you did it, I’d have you on my earphones trying to follow along!! Or at home. Ideally if you did a indoor and outdoor version. With options for solo and partnered workouts!
This is very interesting. I am working with a PT who is experienced with coaching tennis players, but what Kevin Finn does might be more specialized to table tennis and this might be a better option for me. The only problem is that I am working with a jumpers knee injury that has made me take two months off from table tennis and do other things. I am keen to identify some sort of muscle imbalance or weakness that may be the cause of my injury so that I can feel confident in the training that I do and how to work around it instead of walking into the same problems again now that I start playing again. I think online coaching may have problems in the sort of follow up I need.
Hey, thanks for your comment! I agree. It's best to rehab an injury in-person with a physical therapist. Once you're cleared for exercise, reach out to me and we can set something up!
@@PeakPerformanceTableTennis the physical therapist I saw just gave me some basic exercises (meaning the same exercises everyone with jumpers knee gets) and said I should do them three times a week, which just made my knees hurt more in other places. This is why I took a two month break from table tennis. I am hoping to build up slowly and not walk into the same problems. Since I went on a 12 day 350 km hike in the mountains during my break, my body weight was reduced from 95 kg to 85 kg, so this might help as well.
Hold on🧐 45:50....You train with Nandan Naresh from the US cadet team??... So you must train at the Samson Dubina TT academy... You're technically a pro! I actually love your play style and would love to see you play in the world level. I Pray you reach greater heights in skill and achievement!
well done coach. Sorry , but beeing a coach i analyze everything in the particurals. When you talk about medical ball you neglet 2 aspects, one less important , the weight of the medical ball cant be the same for everyone , depend from the weight and the strenght of the players, second is very important , all the movement we make we have to breath, and when we use weight or we do exercises for explosiveness the right breathing is fondamental to preserve the body from injury , be more explosive , and reach the status of relaxation after the shot, so i inhale when i charge preparing to trow the ball and i exale when i trow the ball, same with every tabletennis shots, in this case the process is more contained. Thanks for your attention
Yes, I do change the weight of the ball based on the strength and weight of the athlete. And great point about breathing! I did touch on breathing a bit during the back squat exercise but it's definitely something to pay attention to for all movements!
Please can you make a video on how to cut in table tennis? It's too complicated for me, to be starting I already dominate some blows better but I don't know what happens to me are the cuts, they just don't come out, as if I were anti-cut hahaha. I seriously try to cut and it comes out something very high and very little cut, so a very easy ball to attack. He clarified that I don't want to be a chopper by any means, I like to attack, but there are times when attacking or blocking is not enough and it is necessary to cut. Thank you very much, it would be the video of my salvation, after this one in case you decide to do it, one of how to take all the effect of a serve to make it a quality serve
Hi Seth I really enjoy your videos. Do you have anything on specifically for shoulder exercises. I tend to get easily tired while training on backhand but fore arm I am fine.
Not Seth, but I can chime in if you don't mind. The first thing I would do is do more backhand drills specifically. That's the best way to directly improve your stamina for performing backhands! Beyond that, you can do movements like external rotations (band or cable resisted) for tough sets of 15-30 to focus on muscular endurance. Other good shoulder movements are DB overhead presses, face pulls, Y-Raises, reverse flyes, and lateral raises. Hope that helps!
Which exercise do you believe is the best to mitigate the force (and possible damage) put into the knee in the steparound manouver on the backhand side?
It's starts with strengthening the muscles on both sides of the knee with progressive movements that you can make more challenging over time. Focus on increasing range of motion (always staying within a pain free range of motion), and building strength in deep positions. Exercises like split squats are great for the front of the leg (can be progressed to rear-foot elevated and/or ATG split squats) and leg curls / deadlifts are excellent for building up the back of the leg. Combine that strength work with some "deep tier" yielding leaps and bounds which focus on controlling landings and absorbing force and you'll be doing a lot to bulletproof those knees!
Hi I loved your video. Can you speak to training for table tennis with people who have degenerative injuries such as back or lung for example. I still love to play but after having a couple accidents as I got older, it is very difficult to play competitively. Since I do still want to play better, can you address this? Thank You
You could see if there are any videos of how Paralympic athletes practice for table tennis. One of the best things about table tennis is how inclusive it is. Even if you have significant limitations with your mobility, you can still reach a competitive level at your average local club!
Very good video, thanks you very much ! Hovewer, i have many questions. How many training in a week for workouts with weight, how many training pliometrics in a week and how many training table tennis in a week for 40 years old and more ? Thanks you for yours answers and forgive me for my English ! 😂😅
I'd aim for 2-3 sessions per week of both weights and plyometrics. They can be done in the same session! As for how many TT training sessions, that really depends more on your level and how much time you have at your disposal. Seth would be the better one to answer that question b/c it relates more directly to table tennis.
While I realize that such training should benefit my game, it's hard to find the motivation. Running or doing weight exercises isn't just very fun to me compared to playing table tennis. Do you have some tips to help finding the missing motivation?
Start small, I know that I feel this need to do all or nothing like it wouldn’t be worth it unless I go full commitment. In many areas of life that’s how it works but when it comes to fitness a little goes a long way. Get the ball rolling and once you do that you will find yourself getting bored with the low output and seek a little more. Hope that helps
Seth nailed it. Start small and focus on building the HABIT, not the desire. The cool thing about resistance training is it can be very time efficient. Even ONE short session per week can make a big difference over time!
@@PechPongTT i restarted table tennis one year ago after 20 years break when my 10years old son got into it!! This exercices are perfect for him. But because i am à jpen player, i need to move fast also So i will try to do some exercices with him. I started pliometric exercices and a load of kneeovertoes guys exercices to keep bones, cartilage and muscles healthy. When i was 19years old, i was 14 in france, so rating about 1900 in the US. And now i barely pass 1000 and it is mainly due to my speed, and i still slim. Need the magic potion!LOL It will be à good video how veteran can compete with young players
@@PechPongTT are you sponsored by tibhar? I wonder why did you make the decision to use that blade out of everyblade. I enjoy boosted hurricane 3, will the k3 be a good alternative?
@@michaelfromstatefarm81 I’m sponsored by paddle palace so I can use most equipment. I went from viscaria to the VS unlimited because I wanted something a little faster. It was faster but less feeling but I kept playing really well with it so I couldn’t stop haha
I'm a little confused about mixing types of training on that curve. Is it bad to do Plyo with strength training/ or hypertrophy training in the same session? Or is he saying that you need to sufficient quantity of the plyo training to get the full benefit?
Hey great question! No, you can definitely include both plyometric training and hypertrophy work within the same session. The most important thing is performing them in the correct order. Any movement where the aim is to maximize speed/power (high velocity), you should perform fresh towards the beginning of the workout. Hypertrophy work can be tagged onto the end without being negatively affected. As for the last thing you mentioned, you DO need a sufficient quantity of plyometrics to get the full benefit, but that doesn't have to be crammed into a single session. You can split that dose up over 2-4 sessions per week.
@@masterspin7796 There are certainly a lot of rip-offs and bogus claims in that area. My book is a good place to start if you want to learn what works and what doesn't. The nutrition section is huge!
@@PeakPerformanceTableTennis Majority of the herbs are being resourced through China it takes some research to get the higher quality goods without lead contamination....I will order your book!
Hi Seth, how do you keep your knees in good health. I can't seem to play more than 6 hours per week. more than 6 and my knees are in huge pain. I feel like this sport overuses knees, or maybe i move in the incorrect motion.
Not Seth, but thought I'd chime in. You're right. TT can definitely be tough on the knees! First step is to keep your playing time in a range where you are pain free. I'd also recommend getting checked out by a medical professional to ensure you don't have any underlying problems. If you are cleared for exercise, begin by slowly strengthening your legs and all the muscles surrounding the knee, always staying within a pain free range of motion. As you get stronger, work on increasing your range of motion and mobility through your hips, knees, and ankles. This can really help make your knees more resilient and better able to endure more TT time!
Kevin gave a great response, for me it has been all about my shoes, I have played with other shoes and the knees would start acting up so once I found my ASICS shoes I have stuck with them. I always stop playing if I feel something is slightly wrong and never make an injury worse. I also take warm baths when my legs hurt and that usually helps. Hope that helps :)
Hey, I saw your DM on instagram but I'll reply here too so everyone else can see: I agree with Seth. I don't like the cue "stay on your toes" bc I feel like it can cause people to lean TOO far forward. The heel will certainly lift very often during rallies, but I tend to cue something like "stay bouncy" or "balls of feet" instead. Often, a more full foot landing / contact is better.
Much more accurate training, my shots are stronger, movements faster. I still have to work on my stamina tho haha but so far everything has been improving
Very urgent Sir... Any good hard rubber recommended for Hugo Sal excluding Xiom Rubber closed to table for looping Fast and medium arc Dignic05 isnt suited Its an unique blade so need much help
Almost everyone I train is non pro and you'd be surprised! Many get by with 2-3 physical training sessions per week and 2-4 TT sessions per week. Often the family is involved. Like Seth said, if you start small but make it a priority, you can make it happen.
unbelievable training teaching, even in Chinese this kind of TT relevant physical training is so insufficient. we also focus on the TT skill rather than the fitness and footstep, which will easily cause the injury to our Chinese TT amateur.
@@deducirse4267 Not if you're training with me ;). If you learn the form and respect the weight, the risk of injury is very low. Especially with something like a trap bar. That said, there are plenty of alternatives for those who don't feel comfortable. I never "require" a particular exercise to be performed.
a very in-depth approach for TT fitness training, i must say thou that this is pretty overdone, why? if you ask a studied fitness coach about training for a goal they will mix up their learned science and excercises and their own unproven theories and the outcome is a mixed up workout that is not that effective.. if you take a look at him, hes the typical theory guy that fails in praxis thou, he has very litle muscle and probably isnt great in any other fitness form himself ether, not someone that got to great success in praxis himself, its almoust like asking a fat guy for nutrition advice its much better to look at what the different pros are doing and what prooved to be working for them and spending ur time training excercises that actually benefit you more or less directly and having a similar movement to ur goal than doing 20 different general "agility" or "speed" excercises that only translate minimally into ur table tennis play where u waste a lot of time and effort for minimal improvement really (like these med ball ones here for example) just think about it, in which way can a drill where u sprint to catch a tennis ball help u any better for table tennis speed than doing irregular table tennis drills playing deep backhand/forehand balls where u have to react and move fast too, obv the last is having a much bigger impact on ur game and is worth the time much much more
The thing is, the pros *are* doing this type of training now. The Chinese National team does it, the Lebrun brothers do it, and many others. They all do physical workouts--including things like these med ball throws and agility drills! You're absolutely right that time on the table is paramount. But every pro athlete also supplements with physical training. It's not enough to simply do TT drills if you're looking to maximize your performance. As for "unproven theories," I'm base my training on what research shows to be most effective *and* on direct feedback I get from training athletes directly. This includes testing and measurements to ensure progress is being made. I don't just read studies. I've been training people for over 10 years...
Very simple to discard good advice just because someone doesn't have to build of your desired standard, lol. Been doing this type of workout myself after the advice of those "bigger guys" wasn't working half as much as I liked. Got to admit, I was kinda sceptical at first, but this stuff really helps add a little extra on top of all the TT practice.
@@rivaltheeminent2553 yes ofc even a small guy could have the best knowledge about bodybuilding for example but still how do u know it? in looking and doing what the successful guys are doing u cant go too wrong at least if he would be training top guys that are stuck and then they achive higher raitings with it, sure im all in for it, but just coz he studied and writes a book doesnt makes him an expert in this specific area and all his excercises highly efficient, im still very sceptical about the med ball stuff acutally transfering into better table tennis play
@@PeakPerformanceTableTennis yes ofc some strengh and fitness training should be involved as well for more power and more endurance, no question about that area but im highly sceptical about designing excercises for "general agility" that are very different from the acutally movements in tabletennis transfering into an actualy improvement in table tennis play, i've also seen too many people doing personal training or writing books coming up with their own excercises that are not that efficient for their goal as for the med ball beeing used by the lebrun brothers okay, i've also seen the old chineese national team doing some occasional footwork games like dodgeball.. sure it can be fun but is it really efficient leading into a noticable better tt play ? i highly doubt it
@@Blackain66 I did not just make these exercises up though. If you take a look at the top trainers of rotational sport athletes, you'll see them doing similar stuff. There is also direct research on it. That said, feel free to do whatever you want!
Hey Seth, this was fun! I've learned a lot from you, so it was nice to return the favor for a change. For anyone else viewing, please leave any questions you have here in the comment section. I'll hang around and try to clarify anything that wasn't clear in the video!
I'm 40-ish and training 15h / week ONLY on the table but I lack explosiveness and I feel like your training program is the key I'm missing so I'd like to start incorporating it this summer. I know that every body is different and, preferably, we'd all want a tailored training program but do you have a link to a generic repetitive training program that I could start playing around with (before going custom)?
@@jplanglais Sure! I have a sample workout in the description of this video: ua-cam.com/video/LAJNIcVRH9Q/v-deo.html
Hello I have a question, arent you supposed to do the strength work AFTER the cardio stuff? because if you got fatigued before the strength workout, you won't be able to generate the same output?
@@yagzyalcntas553 Yes, you are. However, speed work is NOT considered "cardio." Speed work is much more similar to resistance training: short attempts, longer rest periods. Cardio, or conditioning work, is much longer in duration (or uses intervals with shorter rest periods). The order you should put exercises in is Speed/agility/power stuff first, then strength, then accessory work, then conditioning.
@@PeakPerformanceTableTennis thank you for detailed answer.
This is incredible. Just bought his book on amazon!
Thanks yes it was truly eye opening for me as well glad you liked it!
As a tremendously out of shape guy who tires out within one minute of multi-balling. I really appreciate this video. I want to use table tennis to whip myself into shape.
Everyone starts somewhere! Get after it and you'll be amazed at what you can do!!
Awesome 👍👍👍👍
Great videos Seth, thanks so much!
i never thought that i would stay 50mins on one video. thank you for sharing this wonderful knowledge this helps me a lot and i will integrate this to my routine. keep going..
Haha thanks for sticking around! I hope you learned a few things that can help you :)
Super high quality content! For real, I don't think there is another table tennis youtube channel with so much useful information out there. Thank you so much!
Thanks! I try my best to put out missing info that I myself never found.
Amazing video
Thanks glad you enjoyed
The fact is your channel gives more unique info about table tennis than the other Japanese channels!
amazing!
Thanks 🙏 I’m trying to learn what I need to improve and sharing it along the way
I've been fortunate enough to have known Kevin though social media for years & can definitely recommend him for PT work & his book specifically for table tennis training
Thanks, Tim! I appreciate the vote of confidence :)
Great video @PechPongTT - A nice touch sharing screen with Trainer Kevin.
saving this for future reference! :)
Good idea :)
Appreciation! 🐝
Thanks for this video! You are literally the only person on UA-cam to have done a video on proper conditioning for table tennis. I even asked a popular coach (I won't name person) from Europe to do a video like this, and he/she said no, saying that this kind of video wouldn't be popular enough and wouldn't get enough views. He/she said people want to go right into table tennis games and tips. Nice to see that he was wrong and I was right! 8,500 views so far and it's only been a few days!
Question: What's the difference between "power" and "strength"?
Thanks! Strength is how much sheer force you can produce against a load. POWER is how much force can you produce, *quickly*, (force x distance / time). So it's like a marriage of strength and speed.
@@PeakPerformanceTableTennis So it's kind of like when I see a 13 yr old girl at the club (I train in the same group as her) put tons of power on the ball, and then I try the same thing and sometimes am not able to deliver power as much as she does (sometimes I AM able, btw, but she does it more consistently than me), even though I know in terms of strength I'm at least 10 times stronger than her.
@@ramonbmovies That would have more to do with technique and timing I would say. There are plenty of 13 year old players who can hit harder than me too!
I am learning so so much i cant belive this is offered us for free 😩👌
Glad to help :) hey your willing to learn that’s half the battle ☝️
I used to feel the same way, and almost felt guilty for having all this amazing content for free. So I started to either venmo Seth directly, or use the superthanks here. Because it takes time / effort and resources to curate this content and I feel like it deserves to be paid content.
This exercise information is super important Seth! Not only for Table tennis players, but also for general strength - agility - control. Many thanks for bringing these 🙏🏼⭐️⭐️⭐️🔥
Yes it was very eye opening for me as well and Im glad the info is out there now.
Seth you've really outdone yourself on this one 👍 Small critique for next time, try to play both audio vocal tracks in stereo (as opposed to left & right) since it can become disturbing, especially when the speaker's side does not correspond to the side on screen.
Thank you, I will make sure it is correct in the next one! ☝️
Amazing work, Seth! You have the uncommon ability to explain well and clear, to remain humble, to share your authentic passion, to show all thinks by yourself, and to recognize and valorize experts. Really a great job. Cheers from Italy!
Thank you very much for the kind words. I’m happy to share my knowledge greetings from US :)
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Have you ever considered a podcast?
Amazing Videos covering so much about tabletennis. I can implement these drills for me as a player, but i will also include this drills in the kids training. Especially core strengh is something i see the kids not doing that good. A lot of kids nowadays just sit around all day, at home, in school etc. And since tabletennis normally doesnt attract the most athletic kids, most of the kids entering a club lack basic strengh/ muscle. We in our kids have amazingly talented kids, regarding their hand to eye coordination (compaired with other school kids, since im teacher for physical education i can judge this quite good), their underarm explosivness and their general feeling on the ball. But when i see exactly these kids, they (or lets say 90% of the really talented kids) lack basics strengh in their legs, hips, core and lower back. I need so start doing some kind of deadlift, squat and core stability stuff with them. Im pretty sure, this will help them a lot, getting better players!
Doing deadlifts and squats in the gym lead to me playing from swiss 4th league to the 3rd in one season. I didnt even change something in my training routine on the table. Just hitting the gym, focusing on stability, max strengh and explosivness helped me a lot remaining in the lower position close to the table!
You can do this a topic by itself , amazing.
Amazing video thanks!
You're welcome! Though I'm sure your thanks was meant for Seth (and rightly so!).
Wow, thanks man! Never seen a physical training guide for table tennis like this one, very detailed. How can I split my workouts throught the week (eg: upper/lower including pylometrics and sprints)?
Very good content! Plus, your camera game is on a New level, too
Thanks 🙏 glad you think so
One of the best I saw so far. Many practice to follow. Thank you.
Thanks yes many good one ☝️
Thank you for your tutorials videos. I have learned a lot from you.
No problem glad you’ve enjoyed them :)
Im happy today ❤
With all the buzz around AI, you both demonstrated what technology cannot do.
I really enjoyed this video and learned so much.
I still don't get the theory behind the pogo jumps. But everything else was easy to pick up.
Thank you Seth and Kevin!!
Yeah too much buzz, thanks for watching hope we can all improve with the stuff Kevin mentioned. The hopping is to make your moving on the table quicker. I would ask Kevin as he would be able to give the right terminology
For the pogos, it's about minimizing the time on the ground. To really tap into your "elastic strength," and reap the full athletic benefits of plyometrics, you need to be on the ground less than 0.25s. Your tendons store energy, but if you stay still, that energy goes away. Learning to get off the ground quickly with good mechanics helps you better utilize this "stored energy" and put it to your advantage (helping you change direction more quickly).
High quality content!
Thanks 🙏
Oh my you had someone do camera work for you. Grats on the 20k subs too. That's _really_ good for a TT channel. Interesting by far your most viewed videos discuss technique like serve/return of serve and backhand etc. The least popular videos are matches with no graphic image. Probably tie matches to some sort of skill you want to display (as the recent videos have been) but perhaps put the skill and 'lesson' part sooner or mixed within the match? Hook em early!
Hey thanks for that idea!! Yeah my friend and I went out to NJ together to film this with Kevin lots of fun 🙌
Good job, guys! Quality way of giving information in understandable manner.
Im really confused, how many people, that are playing TT, skipping that part of training - that is quality structured strength program, or any strength program at all.
It will give you only benefits on the table: injury prevention, more power, explosiveness, increased speed and mobility - pure benefits, without losing anything.
So, dear TT community, please, stop be so conservative, and lazy - just start to incorporate such type of training, as all other sports doing.
Cheers, and good luck on the table everyone 💪🏼
Wise words from the Mighty, "One Punch Man" himself. Thanks!
seth, please make a video of understanding short pips and how to play against it 🙏🏼
big thanks !
You're welcome!
Brilliant Video! tons of materials, informative, funny - I liked it very much. Thanks for almost 50 minutes of sharing knowledge. BTW Kevin's book is the best table tennis Strength and conditioning out there - go get it (I have read it twice already)
Thanks!
Awesome content. Thank you. Love your work!
Thank you! Glad you do
the medicine ball throw is my favorite, but I am throwing it into a brick wall in my gym, kinda shaking up the whole place 🤣 ... and for the jumping part I have started to do jumprope
That is close to one year ago now so I don't think that anyone would answer but I leave that there... There is any type of exercise that we can do when we are at home and alone that can help for agility ? Because when it's rainy pratically all the year and you don't have anyone to exercise with, except the gym strength there is nothing we can really improve. But great video I've learned a lot about how we should train !
Happened to pop in and see this comment! You could try an "agility ball." It's basically a bouncy ball with knobs on it so when you drop it, it will bounce unexpectedly. So you can drop it and/or bounce it off a wall and move quickly to catch it. That would help with agility and reaction a bit. Otherwise, just doing some change of direction work where you practice accelerating, stopping, and reversing can work in a small space. Shadow footwork is great too!
Super cool and informative video! At first, I was assuming the whole thing was going to be through zoom (which I don't like), but then video went crazy good (including video edition) I would suggest avoiding the mix with zoom when you have a great content face-to-face. Cheers!
Thanks for the input! Yeah I figured maybe it could be confusing.
Great video, it must have taken you a lot of time to do produce this video Seth, good job. Also in future you could maybe show us the full new gym routine with full intensity, when you get the hang of everything. Or maybe like a full day of training, table tennis and gym, so it's not same video. Again, amazing video! 😁
Sounds like a good idea to me :)
I like that idea, will have to master these and incorporate it in a video
@@PechPongTT Awesome man!
Honestly if you talked through a routine as you did it, I’d have you on my earphones trying to follow along!! Or at home.
Ideally if you did a indoor and outdoor version. With options for solo and partnered workouts!
@@adityavn Thanks for the idea!
This is very interesting. I am working with a PT who is experienced with coaching tennis players, but what Kevin Finn does might be more specialized to table tennis and this might be a better option for me. The only problem is that I am working with a jumpers knee injury that has made me take two months off from table tennis and do other things. I am keen to identify some sort of muscle imbalance or weakness that may be the cause of my injury so that I can feel confident in the training that I do and how to work around it instead of walking into the same problems again now that I start playing again. I think online coaching may have problems in the sort of follow up I need.
Hey, thanks for your comment! I agree. It's best to rehab an injury in-person with a physical therapist. Once you're cleared for exercise, reach out to me and we can set something up!
@@PeakPerformanceTableTennis the physical therapist I saw just gave me some basic exercises (meaning the same exercises everyone with jumpers knee gets) and said I should do them three times a week, which just made my knees hurt more in other places. This is why I took a two month break from table tennis. I am hoping to build up slowly and not walk into the same problems. Since I went on a 12 day 350 km hike in the mountains during my break, my body weight was reduced from 95 kg to 85 kg, so this might help as well.
Hold on🧐 45:50....You train with Nandan Naresh from the US cadet team??... So you must train at the Samson Dubina TT academy... You're technically a pro! I actually love your play style and would love to see you play in the world level. I Pray you reach greater heights in skill and achievement!
well done coach.
Sorry , but beeing a coach i analyze everything in the particurals.
When you talk about medical ball you neglet 2 aspects, one less important , the weight of the medical ball cant be the same for everyone , depend from the weight and the strenght of the players, second is very important , all the movement we make we have to breath, and when we use weight or we do exercises for explosiveness the right breathing is fondamental to preserve the body from injury , be more explosive , and reach the status of relaxation after the shot, so i inhale when i charge preparing to trow the ball and i exale when i trow the ball, same with every tabletennis shots, in this case the process is more contained.
Thanks for your attention
Yes, I do change the weight of the ball based on the strength and weight of the athlete. And great point about breathing! I did touch on breathing a bit during the back squat exercise but it's definitely something to pay attention to for all movements!
Please can you make a video on how to cut in table tennis? It's too complicated for me, to be starting I already dominate some blows better but I don't know what happens to me are the cuts, they just don't come out, as if I were anti-cut hahaha. I seriously try to cut and it comes out something very high and very little cut, so a very easy ball to attack. He clarified that I don't want to be a chopper by any means, I like to attack, but there are times when attacking or blocking is not enough and it is necessary to cut. Thank you very much, it would be the video of my salvation, after this one in case you decide to do it, one of how to take all the effect of a serve to make it a quality serve
Thanks sir
Hi Seth I really enjoy your videos. Do you have anything on specifically for shoulder exercises. I tend to get easily tired while training on backhand but fore arm I am fine.
Not Seth, but I can chime in if you don't mind. The first thing I would do is do more backhand drills specifically. That's the best way to directly improve your stamina for performing backhands! Beyond that, you can do movements like external rotations (band or cable resisted) for tough sets of 15-30 to focus on muscular endurance. Other good shoulder movements are DB overhead presses, face pulls, Y-Raises, reverse flyes, and lateral raises. Hope that helps!
@@PeakPerformanceTableTennis thanks a ton
First! Hahaha
Great that this video comes, I was thinking about it for the last few days.
What exercises do the professional TT players do ? interviews ?
Which exercise do you believe is the best to mitigate the force (and possible damage) put into the knee in the steparound manouver on the backhand side?
It's starts with strengthening the muscles on both sides of the knee with progressive movements that you can make more challenging over time. Focus on increasing range of motion (always staying within a pain free range of motion), and building strength in deep positions. Exercises like split squats are great for the front of the leg (can be progressed to rear-foot elevated and/or ATG split squats) and leg curls / deadlifts are excellent for building up the back of the leg. Combine that strength work with some "deep tier" yielding leaps and bounds which focus on controlling landings and absorbing force and you'll be doing a lot to bulletproof those knees!
Hi I loved your video. Can you speak to training for table tennis with people who have degenerative injuries such as back or lung for example. I still love to play but after having a couple accidents as I got older, it is very difficult to play competitively. Since I do still want to play better, can you address this? Thank You
You could see if there are any videos of how Paralympic athletes practice for table tennis. One of the best things about table tennis is how inclusive it is. Even if you have significant limitations with your mobility, you can still reach a competitive level at your average local club!
Please tell me the name of the book
Very good video, thanks you very much !
Hovewer, i have many questions.
How many training in a week for workouts with weight, how many training pliometrics in a week and how many training table tennis in a week for 40 years old and more ?
Thanks you for yours answers and forgive me for my English ! 😂😅
I'd aim for 2-3 sessions per week of both weights and plyometrics. They can be done in the same session! As for how many TT training sessions, that really depends more on your level and how much time you have at your disposal. Seth would be the better one to answer that question b/c it relates more directly to table tennis.
@@PeakPerformanceTableTennis thanks you very much !
Good work !
@@christo7405 You got it!
While I realize that such training should benefit my game, it's hard to find the motivation. Running or doing weight exercises isn't just very fun to me compared to playing table tennis.
Do you have some tips to help finding the missing motivation?
Start small, I know that I feel this need to do all or nothing like it wouldn’t be worth it unless I go full commitment. In many areas of life that’s how it works but when it comes to fitness a little goes a long way. Get the ball rolling and once you do that you will find yourself getting bored with the low output and seek a little more. Hope that helps
Seth nailed it. Start small and focus on building the HABIT, not the desire. The cool thing about resistance training is it can be very time efficient. Even ONE short session per week can make a big difference over time!
Very good video, well done, but after 40 it is hard
I know I was just thinking that 😅
@@PechPongTT i restarted table tennis one year ago after 20 years break when my 10years old son got into it!! This exercices are perfect for him. But because i am à jpen player, i need to move fast also So i will try to do some exercices with him. I started pliometric exercices and a load of kneeovertoes guys exercices to keep bones, cartilage and muscles healthy.
When i was 19years old, i was 14 in france, so rating about 1900 in the US. And now i barely pass 1000 and it is mainly due to my speed, and i still slim.
Need the magic potion!LOL
It will be à good video how veteran can compete with young players
can I ask what is your main paddle setup for tournament plays
I use VS unlimited with k3 max on both sides
@@PechPongTT are you sponsored by tibhar? I wonder why did you make the decision to use that blade out of everyblade. I enjoy boosted hurricane 3, will the k3 be a good alternative?
@@michaelfromstatefarm81 I’m sponsored by paddle palace so I can use most equipment. I went from viscaria to the VS unlimited because I wanted something a little faster. It was faster but less feeling but I kept playing really well with it so I couldn’t stop haha
I'm a little confused about mixing types of training on that curve. Is it bad to do Plyo with strength training/ or hypertrophy training in the same session? Or is he saying that you need to sufficient quantity of the plyo training to get the full benefit?
Hey great question! No, you can definitely include both plyometric training and hypertrophy work within the same session. The most important thing is performing them in the correct order. Any movement where the aim is to maximize speed/power (high velocity), you should perform fresh towards the beginning of the workout. Hypertrophy work can be tagged onto the end without being negatively affected. As for the last thing you mentioned, you DO need a sufficient quantity of plyometrics to get the full benefit, but that doesn't have to be crammed into a single session. You can split that dose up over 2-4 sessions per week.
What about nutritional supplements?...whole food vitamins vs. Imitation...Pine Pollen?..Lions Mane...etc...
I think we will save that for another video!
@@PechPongTT I have a lot of experience with this over that past 10 years there is a lot of rip-offs with Vitamins etc...
@@masterspin7796 There are certainly a lot of rip-offs and bogus claims in that area. My book is a good place to start if you want to learn what works and what doesn't. The nutrition section is huge!
@@PeakPerformanceTableTennis Majority of the herbs are being resourced through China it takes some research to get the higher quality goods without lead contamination....I will order your book!
Hi Seth, how do you keep your knees in good health. I can't seem to play more than 6 hours per week. more than 6 and my knees are in huge pain. I feel like this sport overuses knees, or maybe i move in the incorrect motion.
Not Seth, but thought I'd chime in. You're right. TT can definitely be tough on the knees! First step is to keep your playing time in a range where you are pain free. I'd also recommend getting checked out by a medical professional to ensure you don't have any underlying problems. If you are cleared for exercise, begin by slowly strengthening your legs and all the muscles surrounding the knee, always staying within a pain free range of motion. As you get stronger, work on increasing your range of motion and mobility through your hips, knees, and ankles. This can really help make your knees more resilient and better able to endure more TT time!
Kevin gave a great response, for me it has been all about my shoes, I have played with other shoes and the knees would start acting up so once I found my ASICS shoes I have stuck with them. I always stop playing if I feel something is slightly wrong and never make an injury worse. I also take warm baths when my legs hurt and that usually helps. Hope that helps :)
Any tips on tennis elbow? Have you guys ever had to play with it/take some time off? How was the recovery? 😀
One quick question Seth, how often do you change your rubbers?
Every three weeks
@@PechPongTT Thank you very much!
sp, when are you gonna be out in the bay area? let me know, i'd love to meet you!
Would be pretty cool to make it out that direction :) and would be great to meet you to
How do you find a medicine ball that bounces well on grass like this one?
Try to look at a sports store or Facebook marketplace or on Amazon
@@PechPongTT Thank you. I've done that but most balls are no bounce or don't mention if they bounce or not. I'll persist.
What do you think about playing the whole time on toes?
If you watch xu xin do multiball as well as many other players he uses his whole foot to move around so I think only toes can be limiting
Hey, I saw your DM on instagram but I'll reply here too so everyone else can see: I agree with Seth. I don't like the cue "stay on your toes" bc I feel like it can cause people to lean TOO far forward. The heel will certainly lift very often during rallies, but I tend to cue something like "stay bouncy" or "balls of feet" instead. Often, a more full foot landing / contact is better.
How is the result after the training ? Does it help in you game
Much more accurate training, my shots are stronger, movements faster. I still have to work on my stamina tho haha but so far everything has been improving
@@PechPongTT thank for sharing, this training is effortlessly and help you improve your game.
You're definitely not sluggish:) We feel slow when we don't anticipate the shots
I guess your right I want to improve in both areas
Very urgent Sir... Any good hard rubber recommended for Hugo Sal excluding Xiom
Rubber closed to table for looping
Fast and medium arc
Dignic05 isnt suited
Its an unique blade so need much help
Tenergy is always good maybe tenergy hard
@@PechPongTT ty was thinking it to0
@@PechPongTT but to0 expensive... I not sure anymore
I go Nittaku F G1 instead btw can please tell me the benefits of Hugo sal not having Vibration??
4:34 You might want a bit more height 😅
A little more wouldn’t hurt
Where the new video??
Tomorrow :)
the drills look fun but unpractical for a loner like me :D
There's plenty of drills you can do on your own that will have a very similar effect!
which non pro got tinme for 4 hours training with the ball and 2 without a day while having a family lol
I believe in you 👊 start small it all counts
Almost everyone I train is non pro and you'd be surprised! Many get by with 2-3 physical training sessions per week and 2-4 TT sessions per week. Often the family is involved. Like Seth said, if you start small but make it a priority, you can make it happen.
unbelievable training teaching, even in Chinese this kind of TT relevant physical training is so insufficient. we also focus on the TT skill rather than the fitness and footstep, which will easily cause the injury to our Chinese TT amateur.
Glad you liked it 👍
Deadlifts. Really?
Is there something wrong with deadlifts?
@@PeakPerformanceTableTennis Injuries
@@deducirse4267 Not if you're training with me ;). If you learn the form and respect the weight, the risk of injury is very low. Especially with something like a trap bar. That said, there are plenty of alternatives for those who don't feel comfortable. I never "require" a particular exercise to be performed.
a very in-depth approach for TT fitness training, i must say thou that this is pretty overdone, why?
if you ask a studied fitness coach about training for a goal they will mix up their learned science and excercises and their own unproven theories and the outcome is a mixed up workout that is not that effective..
if you take a look at him, hes the typical theory guy that fails in praxis thou, he has very litle muscle and probably isnt great in any other fitness form himself ether, not someone that got to great success in praxis himself, its almoust like asking a fat guy for nutrition advice
its much better to look at what the different pros are doing and what prooved to be working for them and spending ur time training excercises that actually benefit you more or less directly and having a similar movement to ur goal than doing 20 different general "agility" or "speed" excercises that only translate minimally into ur table tennis play where u waste a lot of time and effort for minimal improvement really (like these med ball ones here for example)
just think about it, in which way can a drill where u sprint to catch a tennis ball help u any better for table tennis speed than doing irregular table tennis drills playing deep backhand/forehand balls where u have to react and move fast too, obv the last is having a much bigger impact on ur game and is worth the time much much more
The thing is, the pros *are* doing this type of training now. The Chinese National team does it, the Lebrun brothers do it, and many others. They all do physical workouts--including things like these med ball throws and agility drills! You're absolutely right that time on the table is paramount. But every pro athlete also supplements with physical training. It's not enough to simply do TT drills if you're looking to maximize your performance. As for "unproven theories," I'm base my training on what research shows to be most effective *and* on direct feedback I get from training athletes directly. This includes testing and measurements to ensure progress is being made. I don't just read studies. I've been training people for over 10 years...
Very simple to discard good advice just because someone doesn't have to build of your desired standard, lol.
Been doing this type of workout myself after the advice of those "bigger guys" wasn't working half as much as I liked. Got to admit, I was kinda sceptical at first, but this stuff really helps add a little extra on top of all the TT practice.
@@rivaltheeminent2553 yes ofc even a small guy could have the best knowledge about bodybuilding for example but still how do u know it? in looking and doing what the successful guys are doing u cant go too wrong at least
if he would be training top guys that are stuck and then they achive higher raitings with it, sure im all in for it, but just coz he studied and writes a book doesnt makes him an expert in this specific area and all his excercises highly efficient, im still very sceptical about the med ball stuff acutally transfering into better table tennis play
@@PeakPerformanceTableTennis yes ofc some strengh and fitness training should be involved as well for more power and more endurance, no question about that area
but im highly sceptical about designing excercises for "general agility" that are very different from the acutally movements in tabletennis transfering into an actualy improvement in table tennis play, i've also seen too many people doing personal training or writing books coming up with their own excercises that are not that efficient for their goal
as for the med ball beeing used by the lebrun brothers okay, i've also seen the old chineese national team doing some occasional footwork games like dodgeball.. sure it can be fun but is it really efficient leading into a noticable better tt play ? i highly doubt it
@@Blackain66 I did not just make these exercises up though. If you take a look at the top trainers of rotational sport athletes, you'll see them doing similar stuff. There is also direct research on it. That said, feel free to do whatever you want!