Of my 100+ multitools, fixed, folders and others, I chose the Victorinox SwissChamp to take on an 8 day canoe trip in the BWCA. It was magnificent and saved me many times, including the fish scaler, hook disgorger, pliers, mag glass and small blade. I repaired leather shoes with the sewing awl and pliers and lifted pots from the fire with the parcel hook.
As a Swisschamp user i would like to point out a couple of things. The metal saw is for "soft metals" only, so stuff like cans and Aluminum. if you try to cut steel or iron you will ruin the tool. The Pliers also have a cap crimper on the handle, it is listed in the instruction manual with the knife. The bottle opener is not only a wire bender but also a wire stripper, you cannot feel it but it has a very fine edge made to strip wires. The package carrier is useful if you use plastic bags when groceries shopping because (especially in Europe) those bags have really thin handles that can dig and cut your fingers. The flathead screwdriver on the back is made specifically for tight spots such as those plastic components with screws made for electrical wiring (sorry i don't know the name in English)
I started with SAKs, cycled through all the Leatherman series of multitools, and now I am back to the Swiss Champ. It has all the things I need on a daily basis, and I use pretty much every tool, including the fish scaler (I don't fish) and multipurpose hook, on at least a weekly basis. The fish scaler can be ground into a serrated blade, which, combined with its curvature, makes it excellent for cutting rope. Those pliers have surprised me at times when I thought they wouldn't be strong enough or big enough but did the job all the same. I don't like carrying anything in my pocket bigger than one of the thinner 58mm series like the Classic, so my Champ sits in a belt loop pouch, and I hardly notice it's there. Thanks for the video, Ben. Yours is my favorite channel for multitool reviews.
I love the swiss champ and I have a leatherman surge and many other multi-tools, but it has its place in the world of knives. Those pliers are awesome for fixing jewelry and other small tasks. Plus they are so precise that you can use the tip of the pliers to pull things out. Also remember the pen is pressurized so it writes on many different surfaces that other pens can't. Just my humble opinion. I am one who thinks each items has a place that makes each one stand out.
That magnifying glass has enable me, at 72 years old, to be able to use those Tweezers to actually see that SPLINTER in my finger, LOL...I have no idea how many full days I've spent working with a Splinter, be it metal, or wood in my finger or hand. because I had no way to extract it, or see it clearly. I would not trade the Tweezers, Magnifying glass, and needle, for any other tools on the Champ. As you say, there is a Scenario for every tool on that knife, that could make it valuable, even with a stretch of the imagination, but, It Could happen, lol. I've even used the pliers for something as simple as making a loop on a piece of wire. Simple as folding a piece of doubled wire in the jaws and twisting the free end, as I've also done on the parcel hook.... I LOVE the Champ, it is with me everyday, right along side of my Leatherman Wave+. Nice Review, Thank you....
True what you said about it being a bit chunky, but the belt sheath that I ordered is very nice quality and makes it very convenient to carry. There’s even enough extra room for a small flashlight and a fire starter. . Plus it looks nice. I think some of the appeal is the nostalgia of being a Boy Scout. I’m 62 years old now and I still have lots of fond memories. I typically carry my Leatherman but there’s times when it feels good to get out my Swiss Army knife. I think I’ll buy one for each of my grandsons.
The pliers on this tool has real power, as a fine grip, finger extension. It is not the corollary of a multitool, which is pliers-based. Victorinox pocket knives are one thing, and multitools another altogether. I have a collection of about 40 multitools, and about 60 Victorinox knife models. Pliers-based, versus pocket knife-based. The SwissChamp is a work table model for me. It is is fun, and we like the feel. BTW the steel varies from tool to tool. It is not softer than on multitools. On some, yes. Others, no. The "pen" knife is the small blade. The big blade is a spear point. Lots of multitools can't cut coat hangers. The file is a wood/metal file. No fingernail file. I have both an older, and the newer liner lock version of the big brother WorkChamp. Love the big locking flathead/pry bar. Not being critical as in unfriendly. Just mentioning. Thanks for the review. I'll keep checking back. Cheers!
I take your point. I think subconsciously I tend to compare multi tools/knives to the Wave and Surge quite often. Hence the bit softer steel and ability to cut through hard wire. I like the Champ, it is just no longer a viable tool for me now. That being said, it may work quite well for others. Thanks for clarifying some of the terminology. I appreciate you taking the time to watch my video.
@@grizzlycountry1030 Yes, harder on some multitools. Lots of seemingly decent brands with very bad steel. However, a pocket knife isn't completely comparable to a pliers centred multitool. The Leatherman Charge Tti with the better blade steel is obviously superior. But my 22 year old Swiss Tool pliers has worn better than my 22 year old Wave pliers. The Swiss Tool is tight still, and not too dinged up. The Wave is floppy and the plier teeth chewed. Look some other brand models, Gerber models and SOG are clearly lesser steel in some instances. Model dependent. Small arm tools in Leatherman and Victorinox are much better in steel than my Gerber and SOGs. As said, a multitool and a pocket knife are just different. I pair my Charge with a medium sized 91 mm Victorinox, or a Pioneer, as there is no awl on the Charge. Or a Vic Huntsman and a Skeletool CX.
I carry a Victorinox Swisschamp, Leatherman Wave + and an altoids tin with supplementary items in the SAME front right pocket EVERYDAY, it can be done. If you're willing to tolerate some extra weight and bulk for a substantial amount of everyday capability youll find you grow accustomed to it extremely quickly. I genuinely dont notice the weight or bulk anymore. You have pockets, use them.
Damn bro, respect. I carry a wave+ in my front pocket and a bit kit along with a couple custom bits that I keep in a leather pouch on my belt. I usually have a squirt PS4 or a Victorinox classic on my keychain.
Damn man.. i have my dick to plow around and tried a normal small ass kitchen knife but even that blew out my back cos i can hardly carry around my one eyed beast !!!
The Victorinox pliers are just very precise & easy to manipulate tweezers on steroids (BTW, same width as the regular tweezers). If you look at them in that light, they are pretty awesome.
I carry the Swisschamp XLT every day on my keys, and it's quite comfortable. No problem. It's a mystery why some people think like they have to drag a living whale in their pocket.
I avoided the Champ for a long time because of size and weight. I carried either the Deluxe Tinker and/or the Evolution 23 instead. I finally broke down and got the Champ and I love the crap out of it. With s short clip attached to the key ting the knife hangs from my pocket and I don't notice the weight at all. It does limit what else fits in that pocket though. I know a lot of people find some of the tools useless but I believe they are wrong. Sure, you're not going to break rusted 1" bolts loose with the pliers. But they have many other uses. On a somewhat regular basis I wrap a ranger band around the handles and use them for a small clamp, for instance. The only issue I have with the tool is not getting it 30 years ago. But that's just me. I can see where others may have issues with it but none of the tools are useless.
You have made my day as I’m a big victorinox fan, I have several including this one and I can highly recommend them. They’ve got the build quality the looks and they have got me out of meany a scrap so thanks for posting Buddy!!! 👍🙂
My Grandpa gave me a Victorinox when I was 8 years old in 1958. I have carried one as an EDC ever since then. I now carry the Handyman. It is the knife you said you would like to have. It is a five-layer SAK without the fish scaler, magnifying glass, and pen. You would lose the Phillips Head. It does have the plyers that work great if you are working with small electrical wiring. There are crimpers between the two handles. Don't work very good but they are there if you need them. I am a woodworker and if you turn the chisel over and use it correctly it is on the outside of the knife. The way you had it It would dig down into the wood and not shave it.
Savio m how have you been getting on with the victorinox Swiss champ? I was wondering about edcn it my Daley is the victorinox fieldmasder with plus scales but I'm really thinking about the victorinox Swiss champ🤔
@@name5949 I've seen a lot of your posts on these videos, so I know your sak journey has been similar to mine. Started with the fieldmaster, picked up the farmer x, and thought I could go no larger than 4 layers. Then I found a well priced swisschamp on ebay and immediately rethought things. I have found a use for every tool on here, and don't like not having them with me now. If you have this on a belt sheath you're not gonna notice it. It can also fit my fifth pocket, and I've comfortably carried it in my front pocket with a suspension clip as well. You get used to the size of it pretty quickly, and it is now my edc.
Hmmm honestly I love all my Victorinox including 91mm models and I'm actually watching this because I am contemplating buying one of these...but the awl/reamer on the 93mm alox models i.e. Pioneer, Farmer and Pioneer X/Farmer X is inline and is really heavy duty, I find it better than these on the backtools. But yeah I have a Rebar too and I know what you mean. I don't have any other full size Leathermans as I can't really EDC them due to locking blades (I'm inthe UK) but I think the Rebar was a good solid choice.
My first SAK was the Champion. Back then, it was the largest available (until the Swiss-Champ was introduced). Back then I wore jeans mostly, and I kept it in the little watch pocket. I moved up to the Swiss-Champ when I went off to college and gave my Champion away. From college until present, I've always used a backpack, so I keep the Swiss-Champ in there as my EDC knife.
@@txtoolcrib - regarding the package hook. A friend of mine visited Europe a couple years ago and she told me, it's still fairly common for stores there to wrap purchases in that brown (butcher's paper?) and twine.
I have had/used 4 of these since 1989, and is still a must carry on hikes, camping, and anyplace I feel "out of town" As you said there are a lot of useless tools over 30 years of using it, I only use 1/2 the tools/features. My favorite tools on this knife are the blades (of course) the saw, the magnifying glass, all of the mini tools, phillips screwdriver, can opener/bottle opener and of course the scissors. If you got the one with the leather sheath you also get a few more things like a compass, signal mirror Ect.
My best edc Vic would be the Climber with: inline awl (from alox) instead of the pen knife (could be done with some skilled hands) 1/2 Phillips (from Tinker) instead of the 90° awl (some grinding needed and probably custom scales) Ofc, plus scales with eyeglasses screwdriver. For some people, maybe a version with electrician's blade instead of the can opener.
I have had my swisschamp for over 5 years and pocket carry it about 50% of the time. I sharpened the fish scaler just a bit and use it for bread and cheese. Works perfect
I appreciate the review. I wrestled with the width consideration also on this model, but then discovered the Victorinox Belt Hanger / Belt Clip, which enables the SAK Champ tool to be kept in my pocket hanging off my belt on the side, with the SAK suspended in my pocket so I don't really feel the weight and the 1.5 inch width or bulk that way doesn't bother me, works out well and I like the conceal of it/ vs the belt pouch. I figured with this belt clip working, I can deal with the extra layer or two, since I'm bothering to carry a SAK, may as well have more of the tools available the Champ offers, especially when out/ in a car or doing stuff outside, hiking, fishing etc. One can also always specialize and buy several SAKs for specific things too of course if smaller SAKs are a must, the SAK Champ overall I think is a good deal. I think something like the Leatherman and the others with the bigger pliers seems more suited to kind of a different group of people, like maybe tradesman on the job type work. Plus SAK has kind of a dedicated community following and there really is alot of good ideas put out there on creative uses for your SAK, which is kind of fun to explore... Thanks
Neat review as always! I prefer the Cybertool L/41 as it does away with the tools I do not need like fishscaler and magnifying glass and adds a very capable screwdriver and bitholder. My dad is a technician for machines that put letters in envelopes in the thousands and he heavily uses the Cybertool. He says it offers exactly the functionality he needs in many cases without having to go for his extensive toolbox. He uses it for like 8 years nearly daily now and it is really battered. He wouldn´t let me send it to service for bringing it up to par again as it mostly still works fine and as he says he needs it too much. ^^ So looks like I´ll need to lend him mine in the meantime. You should check that one out as wel if you haven´t already.
If you wear dungarees you can carry this flat-wise in the "fifth pocket", it rides high and out of the way, and you do a little braided paracord lanyard thru the keyring to pull it out.
The SwissChamp is the only Victorinox I'm probably willing to carry. I especially like the hook, which i find really useful and irreplaceable by any other tool normally available in multitools. I'm used to carrying my beloved Leatherman Rebar on my keys, and unlike Victorinox toys, it's the real multitool that get tons of work done. On the other hand, i find this SwissChamp somewhat more practical for EDC and everyday light duty work. I'll consider buying it.
Really good review. Great to see a reviewer who is the real deal providing an experienced opinion. Much appreciated. A wonderful gift. The SwissChamp was my first real edc tool also but it is an older version so lacks the "package hook" and pin in the scale. My scissors have a screw pivot i.e. not riveted.
I think the magnifying glass is cool enough to keep. As a kid I used to be interested in insects and a magnifying glass is one of those things not practical to carry every day but when you need it you cant find one. I was looking into a handyman or a ranger but they dont have plus scales and mini screwdriver. I dont carry a pen bc anytime I carried a pen in my pocket it would leak or if someone would borrow one I wouldnt get it back. Having the plus scales means O always have a pen on me.The magnifying glass complements the tweezers and the mini screw driver perfectly. Being a dad I need an inline phillips to replace batteries on my child's toys. The champ allows me to have a basic screw driver set at all times. I dont do electrical work so the basic pliers are good enough for art projects(making xmas wreaths eg) and if that is not enough I can grab my gerber.
fish de-scaler carves pumpkins really well. the tip also works nicely as a picnic fork. the 2 prongs work like a fruit fork...or seafood fork...or for forking cut cheese or meat.
Like you many people say it's very bulky and can only be carried in a pouch. Yet other commenters in other vids say they carry full size Leathermans in their coin pocket! Myself I can fit this in my coin pocket no problem, although it doesn't really leave room to add a lighter or torch. I'm not a big guy and wear slim fit (not skinny) European jeans and it fits no problem. I've actually bought it to carry in combination with a folder and a pair of Knipex Cobra XS, as I'd experimented with adding small SAKs for the scissors to that combo, plus at one stage a pocket folding bit driver which was pretty much the same size as the Swisschamp! So now it earns it place just because of the 5 drivers - okay 2 are tiny but the inline Phillips is brilliant - and scissors, not to mention all the other tools I get, including a woodsaw better than on most Leathermans, a file/hacksaw which seems very good, a pair of precision pliers for lighter/tighter jobs, and a whole bunch of other cutting, prodding, poking, scraping, and pulling implements as well as a pen. Here's the thing as well, it only cost me £7 ($10) more than a Leatherman Squirt PS4 and every tool it has that the Squirt has, is far superior, including the pliers because they have longer reach and you can get more leverage if you pull vertically (don't ever twist with any multitool pliers), plus you get a whole bunch of other tools which you don't get on the Squirt. If you consider the Swisschamp as an equivalent to the LM Squirt then you'll understand how good it is. If you want to compare a Victorinox product to a Leatherman Wave or Surge this ain't it, compare the Spirit and Swisstool, and I know which manufacturer is winning that comparison too.
@@dpg227 I bought the little Victorinox lanyard with the plastic bit on it to match my Swisschamp (black scales) exactly for the same reason, to pull it out of my 5th pocket easily. I could have just used a bit of paracord but wanted it to look perfect.
I paint the plastic tips of the scale tools with glow in the park neon paint. Now I can identify each tool by its color (neon green, orange, and yellow), and the tools/knife now glows in the dark, and the tools can act as markers in the woods.
You may not use some of the tools this Victorinox provides but they may come in handy just when you need it most. There is no criticism. It's a privilege to own one. Liked and subscribed.
Great rollout of videos this week! Always enjoy your content. I still carry mine, and found that dangling the keyring from a deep pocket clip helps to keep the profile to a minimum in the pocket. But from writings, to cutting, to backpacking, it really packs a very versatile tool set in a compact, albeit chunky, package. One thing i particularity like on the Swisschamp saw is the blade design. The cutting edge is slightly thicker than the noncutting edge, so that as you saw through the blade doesnt get stuck. Really well thought out
Thanks, I appreciate you watching. I EDC’d mine for about 5 years. That is about the time I bought my first Wave. It doesn’t work for me today because I rely on a full set of pliers. It’s just as good today though as it was back then. A lot of functionality that you get with the Swiss champ.
I just got the SwissChamp for my Bday last Sunday! It is my Victorinox no. 23 but it is the jewel of my set! My son gave it to me saying “this is for your collection, not to carry” 😊 Greetings from Guatemala! You are right about the “small” use of the pliers... but as one of my hobby is RC Flying, the pliers are just ok for me. About the hook, I only use it for holding the pen.
Ben, you're killing it with loading up the channel with multi-tool and fun content. I'm a Victorinox and Leatherman nut so I have been following along. Well done.
Great video thanks. The Swiss Champ looks awesome but for me it is just to small. That's why I EDC the Swiss Champ XLT SAK on my belt. I like to have all the tools SAK has to offer. I do also EDC the Handyman SAK that I keep hanging off my belt by a lanyard into my pocket. It is for a second set of plyers to use together with the Swiss Champ XLT plyers. Great together tying paracord knots real tight. And if and or when the Swiss Champ XLT is to big the Handyman can take over. I also keep a Leatherman Rebar in my backpack for heavier duty work. Plus my SAK'S Skipper and Ranger Grip 79 if I have a need for those tools that the Swiss Champ XLT may not have. And the SAK Harvester that has the coveted in line reamer punch. Love me some SAK's and lot of other great EDC stuff. 🔪 🔧 🔦 🔥 🏕
Swiss Champ, Cybertool L, Cybertool M, and Huntsman in the pocket or drawer. With all SAKs, you can use the hook to stand your SC pointing up at a 45 degree angle, open the cap lifter to the 90 degree position, fully open the cap opener, then place your phone horizontally between the CLifter and COpener, and close the can opener to hold your phone. Hands free phone holder while eating or sitting at a desk. :)
Seems like a lot of steps. I tried it, but my phone doesn’t seem to fit well. I just stood the SAK on it’s side, worked fine. My case keeps the phone from slipping.
The blade is a bit weeny but it's a great about town tool ! After 38yrs of SAK EDC I still love mine. I love my Wave too and that's what I carry when doing handyman stuff.
I carry it together with a folder, not because I think the blade is weeny (it's the same as on the Rebar honestly) but because it's a bit cumbersome for extended cutting, and it's way off centre. I do use the small blade a lot for opening packaging. Supplement those with a Knipex Cobra pliers for serious twisting and pulling which would destroy a Leatherman, plus it works as a great wrench on nuts and bolts.
@@simonh6371 I'm too paranoid about snapping the small blade on packages. Its a little awkward, but to cut brown tape seams on boxes I always use the can opener or awl. For plastic clamshells I use my Dime package tool, it does a good job 👍 Knipex are AWESOME, but very rare & expensive here, I've just got a tiny pair of no name vice grips.
@@edwardfletcher7790 I'm guessing you're in the US, here we can get Knipex Cobra XS for £23, around $28. The Knipex XS Plier wrench though is a bit pricier, I think the lowest price for that I saw is £37 or $46 but that is a marvel of engineering, the way the jaws stay parallel. It's more specifically designed not to damage nuts and bolts as it doesn't have teeth like the Cobra XS, but I've never had any issues with that as it's not for super heavy duty on vehicles or machinery. But on the other hand we pay at least 50% more for US branded multitools, even ones made in the far east i.e. Gerber, SOG. A LM Squirt if you can still get one is £50 = $62, the Gerber Dime costs £28 or $35, in the US I've heard people pick them up in stores for $15. Here in the UK it's extremely rare to see multitools in a store, we buy them online mostly. Breaking the small blade on SAKs never crossed my mind to be honest! The thing is so slicey and sharp due to blade grind plus it's relatively thick in relation to it's short length if you think about it, I always considered it pretty strong and on all my SAKs it breezes through cardboard, let alone tape or blister packs.
Proudly carrying a SAK in my pocket for the last 30 years and use it in all sorts of situations. I'd be curious to hear the reaction of your nephew when you gave this knife to him as birthday present :)
I just picked up a pre 1986 Swiss Champion “C” for $5 at a yard sale. definitely needs a little bit of TLC. Maybe some new scales and a new spring for the scissors. Other than that, best $5 I ever spent. Lol
Hey Ben great video as always. Just picked up the SwissChamp as a birthday gift and really looking forward to carrying it and putting it through it's paces. I'm not a kid 😅 I'm 63 but I was excited when I got it. I've collected and used Victorinox SAKs, Leatherman and Gerber products all my life and have a nice little collection of them just never got a SAK with as many layers as this one. But I found a nice belt sheath from a leather manufacturer called Hide and Drink (I know, but check them out 😂) that allows you to carry the SwissChamp horizontally so it carrys well. Anyway great review see you on the next one.
I agree about the pliers. I have them on my Cybertool, hence the reason I believe they are more suited to electronics tasks (dues to their size and the wire cutters, which are probably better for small electrical wire cutting, anyway) than anything "heavy Duty" (I have my Leatherman Wave for that).
Hey man, great video on one of my favorite Victorinox knives. Sounds like you need a Ranger with a plus scale on the back. It's got the wood saw, file, scissors, all the drivers (minus the 3d Phillips, but the can opener has a VERY versatile driver that works with most Phillips), all five tools across the back, and yes, it IS a five layer knife, but that fifth layer is a very thin one. The Ranger is actually thinner than some four layer Victorinox knives. BTW, I pocket carry the Swiss Champ all the time. With a suspension clip, it hangs vertically, all the way in the back of the front pocket, and I forget it's even there! Thanks again, great video!
Thanks for the great video. I have the older one inch thick Victorinox SAK modal that they stop making called the Champion Plus 🔪 and it has everything the 1.3 inch thick Swiss Champ has but no pliers. I think one inch is still a pocket and hand friendly size to EDC. I do like the pliers a lot and carry a one inch thick SAK CyberTool 34 EDC as then I can also get the bit driver too. Carrying then both in opposite pockets hanging 1/2 way down by lanyards and they are hardly noticed. I like having all the tool all the time & with the extra blades I am able to use two and then have the other 2 blades stay very sharp for when that's needed. I also carry the Leatherman Rebar cross carry on my belt and like to use the pliers for heavy use and the pliers on the SAK for lighter duty tasks. Being spring loaded is great when you need it. I find it useful to use two pliers together pulling some thing from to different direction. I find uses for my SAK everyday and if I had to choose, lucky I do not, between carrying the two SAK or the Rebar I would pick the SAK's. & I always like having the magnifying glass as I do not always carry my reading glasses. And having a pen at all times is very handy too.
Hey Ben, think of the pliers as large tweezers and it works.. like you I have quite a few Victorinox and leatherman models but these pliers have been at times the only thing that’s got ticks and spines off of my dog! Not so much with the Swiss champ because of its bulk but the deluxe the tinker is the perfect size for it! Cheers
I could see that. I think that the Gerber dime actually makes a very nice set of tweezers out of the pliers. I like those particular pliers because they come down to a very short point for that sort of task.
Hi Ben, I can totally identify with you as a 12 year old thinking that the Swiss Army Champ was a "Must have" because I was the same 12 year old, thinking the exact same thoughts about the one I saw in our local camping store. The major difference is that I purchased my first Swiss Champ today (12/8/2021) exactly 56 years after I first saw and wanted one! lol So why did a 68 year old guy buy a Swiss Champ? Probably because it was so identified as 'The Swiss Army Knife" with all those features....and probably because I never got over thinking that they were so cool when I first saw one...and probably because they are considered to be of such a high standard (I collect watches and the Victorinox watch I have is a high precision instrument and a fine example of Swiss workmanship) and lastly...probably because I am at an age where I can think "Man I always wanted one of those..so I am gonna get me one"! lol And Ben, the magnifying glass is sure as eggs gonna come in handy! Nice review...can't wait to get mine! Cheers, Mate Doons
I think the chisel is intended to be used with the flat side on the opposite side of the wood surface. So it is well positioned. Not very useful, a bit small. Anyways I love the swiss champ, it is always in my backpack and I use it many times.
I am using an angler as my EDC because I like to have pliers and the fish scaler. Funny how preferences differ from person to person. I have never been fishing in my entire life btw :D
@@jeepnicc It's a decent fork (I eat quite a lot on the go), the ruler is also pretty handy for me (need to measure a lot of small items in my job) - also a nice backscratcher :3
Yeah damn if they made a Huntsman Lite with a file - or basically a Ranger with an inline Phillips and light or magnifying glass the other side of it, don't mind which, that would be a perfect setup to carry together with a Knipex Cobra XS pliers. Or even better that toolset in alox.
Thank you for that. I actually just ordered the Evo Grip 18. That one appealed to me. I ordered the 18 instead of the S18 because I didn’t really care for the blade lock mechanism. I also have never used the Wenger style scissors, so I am very anxious to try those out. I think a 4 layer is probably the widest Victorinox I would personally feel comfortable carrying.
I don't agree with you, I have several multitools from leatherman,sog ,gerber etc. As well victorinox, I carry a Swiss champ every day, The only thing missing from a leatherman are the big pliers and happens that I use more the magnifier glass, tweezers, corkscrew, pen, toothpick, and pin combined than the pliers, I carry the tool in a sheath and not a problem I carry as well a leatherman wave sometimes.
It is a great multi knife, for the right person. I’m glad you find it as useful as you do. The lack of pliers is kind of a deal breaker for myself given the type of work that I do though. Thanks for watching and for sharing your experience.
Swisschamp combined with Knipex Cobra XS is great, those are some serious heavy duty pliers despite their size, 100x stronger than any folding multitool pliers which are only as strong as the pivots connecting the pliers head to the handles. There are videos of big guys standing on the handles of Knipex, which are locked onto a bolt partway up a wall, they don't even move. Put a Leatherman on the ground with the pliers open and stand on the handle facing upwards, and you'll break them.
Should try the workchamp. The bigger Saks are good. I tend to like them better than the pliers based tools from victorinox. Since I too prefer the surge.
damn if u can't pocket carry the swisschamp something is wrong. Try carrying most pocket knives ex: buck 110. Leatherman supertool300 or wave. They all weigh more than the swisschamp. Ever carry 12g ammo in ur pocket while hunting?
I know, mine fits in the 5th pocket of my jeans. Even carried together with a folder and a pair of Knipex Cobra, it's still less bulk and weight than a Leatherman.
Do you know if the edge file on the leatherman wave can be used as a metal saw because it does have an edge file, I know leatherman doesn’t advertise it as a metal saw but I was wondering if it can be used to cut metal in a pinch?
I'd like to see a *"Survivor"* model: Wood saw, metal saw, scissors, awl, straight edge blade, *serrated* small blade, tiny signaling mirror (with hole in the middle) LED light (with multi-color ability - red for night vision preservation, as one example), compass, digital clock (plus other features in it, like altometer, stopwatch, alarm, thermometer, etc.), whistle, thin case to hold fish hooks, line, sinker, sewing needle + thread, etc. Adopt the Firefly ferro rod (by Tortoise Gear) in the toothpick hole, and/or FireAnt + tinder inside the corkscrew. Glass breaker. Make another spot to fit a blade sharpener diamond rod, the same shape as the Tortoise Gear ferro rod. Magnifying glass (yes, to start fire as well). Make color options: OD green (on the tools as well), green/brown camo, all blacked out, or glow in the dark yellow and/or orange If they could somehow switch the current pliers out for *vise grip pliers,* that'd be great. :)
Bloody hell that's a lot. The clock and light wouldn't be much use if you got it wet. Years ago Victorinox sold this in a pouch with other survival items like a small compass and fishing kit. Personally I prefer alox models like Farmer/Farmer X, or 111mm models like Soldier/Trekker for survival. Normally though I have a fixed blade on me too in the outdoors.
This is one of the best gadgets possible to obtain? Nobody else has the fame or cool factor of this product and its also amazing value for money ! Had one since 1986 , still got it along with a couple more here and there , the late type like you have has a much better file , not over keen on the cheapo looking magnifier lense though ?
It seems like every time I don't carry my Swiss champ is when I suddenly come up with a need for something that isn't on the knife I have with me! If you want to discover a need for a small pliers or a 3" long ruler, go some place without it!
Knipex pliers are kind of the hot thing among multitool users and collectors. Do you use and have any Knipex? Thank you for your good multitool reviews. Can you review some Knipex tools?
Just for a quick laugh, can you put the Swiss Qlip Pocket Clip on the SAK Swiss Champ and don it in the pocket? If I had both, I’d have to try it ha ha.
Hey man good review. I got a question for you. I bought one of these a year ago, i dropped it and there is a small dent in the metal it doesn't affect the functionality do you think they will repair it for me free of charge?
"The next tool over, is the pliers... *exhale*..." Yeah....yeah... Grippers/force multiplier/insulated grabber. That's about it. No real torque or power, but they are always on you. 😋
@@txtoolcrib No, I'm agreeing with it. The "pliers" are not pliers. You cant grap a bolt and tighten it. They are more for gripping, or moving hot objects without getting burned. Leatherman has the pliers. :p
@@OutsideTheTargetDemographic If you try to tighten a bolt with Leatherman or in fact any needlenose/bluntnose pliers you'll find the radial force of trying to turn it forces the handles open and you'll just loosen the grip and it will slip. The Crunch is the only multitool which can deal with nuts and bolts effectively. Hence many people are now carrying Knipex Cobra in whatever size suits them. They are forged and intrinsically stronger than any multitool pliers which are only ever as strong as the pivot connecting the plier head to the handles.
@@simonh6371 Agreed. My Wave sits at home, and I carry a cut down crescent wrench, and a vice grip plier. Otherwise, the Victorinox pliers work for all precision/standoff needs I've had in...years. 👍
@@txtoolcrib Well, the serrated scissors catch and cut, whereas my Victorinox scissors just push things forward. Especially things like thread, fishing line, moustache hair & thin gauge electrical wire. I don't know if the modern models have the same scissors as my knife from 1981. The edge of the scissor blade is like the bottom edge of the file tool.
They are, I believe. They do a great job of cutting on a variety of different items. I just find the Victorinox scissors to be a bit smoother for most applications.
Of my 100+ multitools, fixed, folders and others, I chose the Victorinox SwissChamp to take on an 8 day canoe trip in the BWCA. It was magnificent and saved me many times, including the fish scaler, hook disgorger, pliers, mag glass and small blade. I repaired leather shoes with the sewing awl and pliers and lifted pots from the fire with the parcel hook.
LOL you nailed it with your comment on the magnifying glass. It's a toy in your teens and twenties. It's a useful life tool in your late 40s and 50s.
Absolutely
I edc this in my backback always
As a Swisschamp user i would like to point out a couple of things.
The metal saw is for "soft metals" only, so stuff like cans and Aluminum. if you try to cut steel or iron you will ruin the tool.
The Pliers also have a cap crimper on the handle, it is listed in the instruction manual with the knife.
The bottle opener is not only a wire bender but also a wire stripper, you cannot feel it but it has a very fine edge made to strip wires.
The package carrier is useful if you use plastic bags when groceries shopping because (especially in Europe) those bags have really thin handles that can dig and cut your fingers.
The flathead screwdriver on the back is made specifically for tight spots such as those plastic components with screws made for electrical wiring (sorry i don't know the name in English)
I started with SAKs, cycled through all the Leatherman series of multitools, and now I am back to the Swiss Champ. It has all the things I need on a daily basis, and I use pretty much every tool, including the fish scaler (I don't fish) and multipurpose hook, on at least a weekly basis. The fish scaler can be ground into a serrated blade, which, combined with its curvature, makes it excellent for cutting rope. Those pliers have surprised me at times when I thought they wouldn't be strong enough or big enough but did the job all the same. I don't like carrying anything in my pocket bigger than one of the thinner 58mm series like the Classic, so my Champ sits in a belt loop pouch, and I hardly notice it's there. Thanks for the video, Ben. Yours is my favorite channel for multitool reviews.
After more than 40 years carrying differents SAK models I always come to the wonderful Swisschamp
I love the swiss champ and I have a leatherman surge and many other multi-tools, but it has its place in the world of knives. Those pliers are awesome for fixing jewelry and other small tasks. Plus they are so precise that you can use the tip of the pliers to pull things out. Also remember the pen is pressurized so it writes on many different surfaces that other pens can't. Just my humble opinion. I am one who thinks each items has a place that makes each one stand out.
I’m have a new appreciation for the small pliers on SAK’s.
That magnifying glass has enable me, at 72 years old, to be able to use those Tweezers to actually see that SPLINTER in my finger, LOL...I have no idea how many full days I've spent working with a Splinter, be it metal, or wood in my finger or hand. because I had no way to extract it, or see it clearly. I would not trade the Tweezers, Magnifying glass, and needle, for any other tools on the Champ. As you say, there is a Scenario for every tool on that knife, that could make it valuable, even with a stretch of the imagination, but, It Could happen, lol. I've even used the pliers for something as simple as making a loop on a piece of wire. Simple as folding a piece of doubled wire in the jaws and twisting the free end, as I've also done on the parcel hook.... I LOVE the Champ, it is with me everyday, right along side of my Leatherman Wave+. Nice Review, Thank you....
You’re quite welcome. Thank you for sharing your experiences with us.
I have had my Swiss Champ in my right front pocket for at least 40 years.
True what you said about it being a bit chunky, but the belt sheath that I ordered is very nice quality and makes it very convenient to carry. There’s even enough extra room for a small flashlight and a fire starter.
. Plus it looks nice. I think some of the appeal is the nostalgia of being a Boy Scout. I’m 62 years old now and I still have lots of fond memories. I typically carry my Leatherman but there’s times when it feels good to get out my Swiss Army knife. I think I’ll buy one for each of my grandsons.
It's absolutely a jewel for crafting! I always have it nearby! I did change the scales for white ones. Makes it look a bit slimmer.
The pliers on this tool has real power, as a fine grip, finger extension. It is not the corollary of a multitool, which is pliers-based. Victorinox pocket knives are one thing, and multitools another altogether.
I have a collection of about 40 multitools, and about 60 Victorinox knife models. Pliers-based, versus pocket knife-based.
The SwissChamp is a work table model for me. It is is fun, and we like the feel.
BTW the steel varies from tool to tool. It is not softer than on multitools. On some, yes. Others, no.
The "pen" knife is the small blade. The big blade is a spear point.
Lots of multitools can't cut coat hangers.
The file is a wood/metal file. No fingernail file.
I have both an older, and the newer liner lock version of the big brother WorkChamp. Love the big locking flathead/pry bar.
Not being critical as in unfriendly. Just mentioning.
Thanks for the review. I'll keep checking back.
Cheers!
I take your point. I think subconsciously I tend to compare multi tools/knives to the Wave and Surge quite often. Hence the bit softer steel and ability to cut through hard wire. I like the Champ, it is just no longer a viable tool for me now. That being said, it may work quite well for others. Thanks for clarifying some of the terminology. I appreciate you taking the time to watch my video.
Actually the steel used on multi tools is harder than victorinox models.
@@grizzlycountry1030 Yes, harder on some multitools. Lots of seemingly decent brands with very bad steel. However, a pocket knife isn't completely comparable to a pliers centred multitool.
The Leatherman Charge Tti with the better blade steel is obviously superior. But my 22 year old Swiss Tool pliers has worn better than my 22 year old Wave pliers. The Swiss Tool is tight still, and not too dinged up. The Wave is floppy and the plier teeth chewed.
Look some other brand models, Gerber models and SOG are clearly lesser steel in some instances. Model dependent.
Small arm tools in Leatherman and Victorinox are much better in steel than my Gerber and SOGs.
As said, a multitool and a pocket knife are just different. I pair my Charge with a medium sized 91 mm Victorinox, or a Pioneer, as there is no awl on the Charge. Or a Vic Huntsman and a Skeletool CX.
I carry a Victorinox Swisschamp, Leatherman Wave + and an altoids tin with supplementary items in the SAME front right pocket EVERYDAY, it can be done. If you're willing to tolerate some extra weight and bulk for a substantial amount of everyday capability youll find you grow accustomed to it extremely quickly. I genuinely dont notice the weight or bulk anymore. You have pockets, use them.
Damn bro, respect. I carry a wave+ in my front pocket and a bit kit along with a couple custom bits that I keep in a leather pouch on my belt. I usually have a squirt PS4 or a Victorinox classic on my keychain.
Damn man.. i have my dick to plow around and tried a normal small ass kitchen knife but even that blew out my back cos i can hardly carry around my one eyed beast !!!
The Victorinox pliers are just very precise & easy to manipulate tweezers on steroids (BTW, same width as the regular tweezers). If you look at them in that light, they are pretty awesome.
I carry the Swisschamp XLT every day on my keys, and it's quite comfortable. No problem. It's a mystery why some people think like they have to drag a living whale in their pocket.
I love the Swiss champ and I purchased one today for 58$. I got my first victorinox when I was 8 or 9.
Greetings from Germany
Victorinox knives are really great, always something that suits everyone's needs.
Same, just ordered on ebay
Hello! victorinox swisschamp was also my first multitool! I was 20 at the time .. and there are 21 years .. greetings from Brazil!
Hello. Thanks for watching my video. I loved the Swisschamp when I was younger. I remember how proud I was to own it.
I avoided the Champ for a long time because of size and weight. I carried either the Deluxe Tinker and/or the Evolution 23 instead. I finally broke down and got the Champ and I love the crap out of it. With s short clip attached to the key ting the knife hangs from my pocket and I don't notice the weight at all. It does limit what else fits in that pocket though. I know a lot of people find some of the tools useless but I believe they are wrong. Sure, you're not going to break rusted 1" bolts loose with the pliers. But they have many other uses. On a somewhat regular basis I wrap a ranger band around the handles and use them for a small clamp, for instance. The only issue I have with the tool is not getting it 30 years ago. But that's just me. I can see where others may have issues with it but none of the tools are useless.
01/20/19 Amazon has an all time low price today on the Swiss Champ at $57.97 (free shipping too).
I missed it.
I purchased it today for 58 $
You have made my day as I’m a big victorinox fan, I have several including this one and I can highly recommend them. They’ve got the build quality the looks and they have got me out of meany a scrap so thanks for posting Buddy!!! 👍🙂
You’re very welcome, glad I could make your day.
My Grandpa gave me a Victorinox when I was 8 years old in 1958. I have carried one as an EDC ever since then. I now carry the Handyman. It is the knife you said you would like to have. It is a five-layer SAK without the fish scaler, magnifying glass, and pen. You would lose the Phillips Head. It does have the plyers that work great if you are working with small electrical wiring. There are crimpers between the two handles. Don't work very good but they are there if you need them. I am a woodworker and if you turn the chisel over and use it correctly it is on the outside of the knife. The way you had it It would dig down into the wood and not shave it.
I carry the Swiss Champ when I am out and about in town, off work. On my belt.
Nice. I really should get a belt pouch for this one.
Savio m how have you been getting on with the victorinox Swiss champ? I was wondering about edcn it my Daley is the victorinox fieldmasder with plus scales but I'm really thinking about the victorinox Swiss champ🤔
@@name5949 I've seen a lot of your posts on these videos, so I know your sak journey has been similar to mine. Started with the fieldmaster, picked up the farmer x, and thought I could go no larger than 4 layers. Then I found a well priced swisschamp on ebay and immediately rethought things. I have found a use for every tool on here, and don't like not having them with me now. If you have this on a belt sheath you're not gonna notice it. It can also fit my fifth pocket, and I've comfortably carried it in my front pocket with a suspension clip as well. You get used to the size of it pretty quickly, and it is now my edc.
I know I'm just watching this 2 years later but I must say that is probably the best awl on any multitool other than the rebar and that's maybe
Hmmm honestly I love all my Victorinox including 91mm models and I'm actually watching this because I am contemplating buying one of these...but the awl/reamer on the 93mm alox models i.e. Pioneer, Farmer and Pioneer X/Farmer X is inline and is really heavy duty, I find it better than these on the backtools. But yeah I have a Rebar too and I know what you mean. I don't have any other full size Leathermans as I can't really EDC them due to locking blades (I'm inthe UK) but I think the Rebar was a good solid choice.
@@simonh6371 yes I forgot about the pioneer reamer those are pretty good especially since there inline.
I have had this model from the early 90s ,never gets much use but my wood handle huntsman goes everywhere !
Huntsman is a model I need to try out.
My first SAK was the Champion. Back then, it was the largest available (until the Swiss-Champ was introduced). Back then I wore jeans mostly, and I kept it in the little watch pocket. I moved up to the Swiss-Champ when I went off to college and gave my Champion away. From college until present, I've always used a backpack, so I keep the Swiss-Champ in there as my EDC knife.
I can see that as a viable option to carry the SwissChamp.
@@txtoolcrib - regarding the package hook. A friend of mine visited Europe a couple years ago and she told me, it's still fairly common for stores there to wrap purchases in that brown (butcher's paper?) and twine.
Interesting.
I have had/used 4 of these since 1989, and is still a must carry on hikes, camping, and anyplace I feel "out of town" As you said there are a lot of useless tools over 30 years of using it, I only use 1/2 the tools/features. My favorite tools on this knife are the blades (of course) the saw, the magnifying glass, all of the mini tools, phillips screwdriver, can opener/bottle opener and of course the scissors. If you got the one with the leather sheath you also get a few more things like a compass, signal mirror Ect.
A great tool, and a true classic for sure.
My best edc Vic would be the Climber with:
inline awl (from alox) instead of the pen knife (could be done with some skilled hands)
1/2 Phillips (from Tinker) instead of the 90° awl (some grinding needed and probably custom scales)
Ofc, plus scales with eyeglasses screwdriver.
For some people, maybe a version with electrician's blade instead of the can opener.
I EDC mine and have for a couple of decades. It’s chunky, but it’s worth it.
PS-The fish scaler works great for scraping sticker burrs off of jeans.
Now that’s something I hadn’t thought of. Thanks for that little trick.
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My son used to head straight for them, so I improvised-lol.
I have had my swisschamp for over 5 years and pocket carry it about 50% of the time.
I sharpened the fish scaler just a bit and use it for bread and cheese. Works perfect
I appreciate the review. I wrestled with the width consideration also on this model, but then discovered the Victorinox Belt Hanger / Belt Clip, which enables the SAK Champ tool to be kept in my pocket hanging off my belt on the side, with the SAK suspended in my pocket so I don't really feel the weight and the 1.5 inch width or bulk that way doesn't bother me, works out well and I like the conceal of it/ vs the belt pouch. I figured with this belt clip working, I can deal with the extra layer or two, since I'm bothering to carry a SAK, may as well have more of the tools available the Champ offers, especially when out/ in a car or doing stuff outside, hiking, fishing etc. One can also always specialize and buy several SAKs for specific things too of course if smaller SAKs are a must, the SAK Champ overall I think is a good deal. I think something like the Leatherman and the others with the bigger pliers seems more suited to kind of a different group of people, like maybe tradesman on the job type work. Plus SAK has kind of a dedicated community following and there really is alot of good ideas put out there on creative uses for your SAK, which is kind of fun to explore... Thanks
The parcel hook is great for carrying buckets with thin metal handles.
That hook is one of the most useful and underrated tools on the knife . Also the magnifying glass
Also for carrying bundles of raw opium tied up with hemp.
I thought the same thing about the chisel but then I learned how to use a chisel properly and now I love it
Would you mind elaborating?
Neat review as always! I prefer the Cybertool L/41 as it does away with the tools I do not need like fishscaler and magnifying glass and adds a very capable screwdriver and bitholder. My dad is a technician for machines that put letters in envelopes in the thousands and he heavily uses the Cybertool. He says it offers exactly the functionality he needs in many cases without having to go for his extensive toolbox. He uses it for like 8 years nearly daily now and it is really battered. He wouldn´t let me send it to service for bringing it up to par again as it mostly still works fine and as he says he needs it too much. ^^ So looks like I´ll need to lend him mine in the meantime. You should check that one out as wel if you haven´t already.
I will. Thanks for the heads up.
If you wear dungarees you can carry this flat-wise in the "fifth pocket", it rides high and out of the way, and you do a little braided paracord lanyard thru the keyring to pull it out.
The SwissChamp is the only Victorinox I'm probably willing to carry. I especially like the hook, which i find really useful and irreplaceable by any other tool normally available in multitools.
I'm used to carrying my beloved Leatherman Rebar on my keys, and unlike Victorinox toys, it's the real multitool that get tons of work done. On the other hand, i find this SwissChamp somewhat more practical for EDC and everyday light duty work. I'll consider buying it.
Really good review. Great to see a reviewer who is the real deal providing an experienced opinion. Much appreciated.
A wonderful gift. The SwissChamp was my first real edc tool also but it is an older version so lacks the "package hook" and pin in the scale. My scissors have a screw pivot i.e. not riveted.
Thank you. I honestly don’t remember how mine was configured. It would have been a late 80’s model.
I think the magnifying glass is cool enough to keep. As a kid I used to be interested in insects and a magnifying glass is one of those things not practical to carry every day but when you need it you cant find one. I was looking into a handyman or a ranger but they dont have plus scales and mini screwdriver. I dont carry a pen bc anytime I carried a pen in my pocket it would leak or if someone would borrow one I wouldnt get it back. Having the plus scales means O always have a pen on me.The magnifying glass complements the tweezers and the mini screw driver perfectly. Being a dad I need an inline phillips to replace batteries on my child's toys. The champ allows me to have a basic screw driver set at all times. I dont do electrical work so the basic pliers are good enough for art projects(making xmas wreaths eg) and if that is not enough I can grab my gerber.
fish de-scaler carves pumpkins really well. the tip also works nicely as a picnic fork. the 2 prongs work like a fruit fork...or seafood fork...or for forking cut cheese or meat.
Those are uses I hadn’t considered before, thanks.
Like you many people say it's very bulky and can only be carried in a pouch. Yet other commenters in other vids say they carry full size Leathermans in their coin pocket! Myself I can fit this in my coin pocket no problem, although it doesn't really leave room to add a lighter or torch. I'm not a big guy and wear slim fit (not skinny) European jeans and it fits no problem. I've actually bought it to carry in combination with a folder and a pair of Knipex Cobra XS, as I'd experimented with adding small SAKs for the scissors to that combo, plus at one stage a pocket folding bit driver which was pretty much the same size as the Swisschamp! So now it earns it place just because of the 5 drivers - okay 2 are tiny but the inline Phillips is brilliant - and scissors, not to mention all the other tools I get, including a woodsaw better than on most Leathermans, a file/hacksaw which seems very good, a pair of precision pliers for lighter/tighter jobs, and a whole bunch of other cutting, prodding, poking, scraping, and pulling implements as well as a pen. Here's the thing as well, it only cost me £7 ($10) more than a Leatherman Squirt PS4 and every tool it has that the Squirt has, is far superior, including the pliers because they have longer reach and you can get more leverage if you pull vertically (don't ever twist with any multitool pliers), plus you get a whole bunch of other tools which you don't get on the Squirt. If you consider the Swisschamp as an equivalent to the LM Squirt then you'll understand how good it is. If you want to compare a Victorinox product to a Leatherman Wave or Surge this ain't it, compare the Spirit and Swisstool, and I know which manufacturer is winning that comparison too.
Yep, it fits comfortably in the 5th pocket of most of my jeans, with a little lanyard attached to the key ring so it can be pulled out easily.
@@dpg227 I bought the little Victorinox lanyard with the plastic bit on it to match my Swisschamp (black scales) exactly for the same reason, to pull it out of my 5th pocket easily. I could have just used a bit of paracord but wanted it to look perfect.
I paint the plastic tips of the scale tools with glow in the park neon paint. Now I can identify each tool by its color (neon green, orange, and yellow), and the tools/knife now glows in the dark, and the tools can act as markers in the woods.
There's an idea!
You may not use some of the tools this Victorinox provides but they may come in handy just when you need it most. There is no criticism. It's a privilege to own one. Liked and subscribed.
I carry mine daily, along with a leatherman Rebar. Great EDC.
Great rollout of videos this week! Always enjoy your content. I still carry mine, and found that dangling the keyring from a deep pocket clip helps to keep the profile to a minimum in the pocket. But from writings, to cutting, to backpacking, it really packs a very versatile tool set in a compact, albeit chunky, package.
One thing i particularity like on the Swisschamp saw is the blade design. The cutting edge is slightly thicker than the noncutting edge, so that as you saw through the blade doesnt get stuck. Really well thought out
Thanks, I appreciate you watching. I EDC’d mine for about 5 years. That is about the time I bought my first Wave. It doesn’t work for me today because I rely on a full set of pliers. It’s just as good today though as it was back then. A lot of functionality that you get with the Swiss champ.
I just got the SwissChamp for my Bday last Sunday! It is my Victorinox no. 23 but it is the jewel of my set!
My son gave it to me saying “this is for your collection, not to carry”
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Greetings from Guatemala!
You are right about the “small” use of the pliers... but as one of my hobby is RC Flying, the pliers are just ok for me.
About the hook, I only use it for holding the pen.
Nice addition for any collection.
Have had one for about thirty years and it's nearly always close by.
I wish I still had my original one.
Awesome review. I'm buying one. I have a couple SAK . I'll add this to my collection.
As a blacksmith i use my Surge on job and one my victorinox in the spare time
Both great tools.
Ben, you're killing it with loading up the channel with multi-tool and fun content. I'm a Victorinox and Leatherman nut so I have been following along. Well done.
I appreciate you watching. I have a bit of downtime, so I’m trying to take advantage of it. This week is going to get pretty busy.
What's "killing it" supposed to mean? Sounds like something a rapper would say.
@@Iliek 😂🤣
Great video thanks.
The Swiss Champ looks awesome but for me it is just to small.
That's why I EDC the Swiss Champ XLT SAK on my belt. I like to have all the tools SAK has to offer.
I do also EDC the Handyman SAK that I keep hanging off my belt by a lanyard into my pocket.
It is for a second set of plyers to use together with the Swiss Champ XLT plyers. Great together tying paracord knots real tight. And if and or when the Swiss Champ XLT is to big the Handyman can take over.
I also keep a Leatherman Rebar in my backpack for heavier duty work. Plus my SAK'S Skipper and Ranger Grip 79 if I have a need for those tools that the Swiss Champ XLT may not have. And the SAK Harvester that has the coveted in line reamer punch.
Love me some SAK's and lot of other great EDC stuff.
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Swiss Champ, Cybertool L, Cybertool M, and Huntsman in the pocket or drawer.
With all SAKs, you can use the hook to stand your SC pointing up at a 45 degree angle, open the cap lifter to the 90 degree position, fully open the cap opener, then place your phone horizontally between the CLifter and COpener, and close the can opener to hold your phone. Hands free phone holder while eating or sitting at a desk. :)
Seems like a lot of steps. I tried it, but my phone doesn’t seem to fit well. I just stood the SAK on it’s side, worked fine. My case keeps the phone from slipping.
I repair medical equipment, and I have either a Swiss Champ or Cybertool L/M in a belt case every day.
Nice!
The blade is a bit weeny but it's a great about town tool !
After 38yrs of SAK EDC I still love mine.
I love my Wave too and that's what I carry when doing handyman stuff.
A lot of capability with this tool.
I carry it together with a folder, not because I think the blade is weeny (it's the same as on the Rebar honestly) but because it's a bit cumbersome for extended cutting, and it's way off centre. I do use the small blade a lot for opening packaging. Supplement those with a Knipex Cobra pliers for serious twisting and pulling which would destroy a Leatherman, plus it works as a great wrench on nuts and bolts.
@@simonh6371 I'm too paranoid about snapping the small blade on packages.
Its a little awkward, but to cut brown tape seams on boxes I always use the can opener or awl.
For plastic clamshells I use my Dime package tool, it does a good job 👍
Knipex are AWESOME, but very rare & expensive here, I've just got a tiny pair of no name vice grips.
@@edwardfletcher7790 I'm guessing you're in the US, here we can get Knipex Cobra XS for £23, around $28. The Knipex XS Plier wrench though is a bit pricier, I think the lowest price for that I saw is £37 or $46 but that is a marvel of engineering, the way the jaws stay parallel. It's more specifically designed not to damage nuts and bolts as it doesn't have teeth like the Cobra XS, but I've never had any issues with that as it's not for super heavy duty on vehicles or machinery. But on the other hand we pay at least 50% more for US branded multitools, even ones made in the far east i.e. Gerber, SOG. A LM Squirt if you can still get one is £50 = $62, the Gerber Dime costs £28 or $35, in the US I've heard people pick them up in stores for $15. Here in the UK it's extremely rare to see multitools in a store, we buy them online mostly.
Breaking the small blade on SAKs never crossed my mind to be honest! The thing is so slicey and sharp due to blade grind plus it's relatively thick in relation to it's short length if you think about it, I always considered it pretty strong and on all my SAKs it breezes through cardboard, let alone tape or blister packs.
@@simonh6371 I'm in Australia.
The prices here are INSANE 😩
Proudly carrying a SAK in my pocket for the last 30 years and use it in all sorts of situations.
I'd be curious to hear the reaction of your nephew when you gave this knife to him as birthday present :)
I just picked up a pre 1986 Swiss Champion “C” for $5 at a yard sale. definitely needs a little bit of TLC. Maybe some new scales and a new spring for the scissors. Other than that, best $5 I ever spent. Lol
Hey Ben great video as always. Just picked up the SwissChamp as a birthday gift and really looking forward to carrying it and putting it through it's paces. I'm not a kid 😅 I'm 63 but I was excited when I got it. I've collected and used Victorinox SAKs, Leatherman and Gerber products all my life and have a nice little collection of them just never got a SAK with as many layers as this one. But I found a nice belt sheath from a leather manufacturer called Hide and Drink (I know, but check them out 😂) that allows you to carry the SwissChamp horizontally so it carrys well. Anyway great review see you on the next one.
I agree about the pliers. I have them on my Cybertool, hence the reason I believe they are more suited to electronics tasks (dues to their size and the wire cutters, which are probably better for small electrical wire cutting, anyway) than anything "heavy Duty" (I have my Leatherman Wave for that).
I think you hit the nail on the head.
Hey man, great video on one of my favorite Victorinox knives. Sounds like you need a Ranger with a plus scale on the back. It's got the wood saw, file, scissors, all the drivers (minus the 3d Phillips, but the can opener has a VERY versatile driver that works with most Phillips), all five tools across the back, and yes, it IS a five layer knife, but that fifth layer is a very thin one. The Ranger is actually thinner than some four layer Victorinox knives. BTW, I pocket carry the Swiss Champ all the time. With a suspension clip, it hangs vertically, all the way in the back of the front pocket, and I forget it's even there! Thanks again, great video!
I’m going to check into that ranger. Thanks for the heads up.
@@txtoolcrib You're welcome. Just be aware. The older Ranger models do NOT have all five tools across the back, if that's important to you.
Thanks for the great video. I have the older one inch thick Victorinox SAK modal that they stop making called the Champion Plus 🔪 and it has everything the 1.3 inch thick Swiss Champ has but no pliers. I think one inch is still a pocket and hand friendly size to EDC. I do like the pliers a lot and carry a one inch thick SAK CyberTool 34 EDC as then I can also get the bit driver too. Carrying then both in opposite pockets hanging 1/2 way down by lanyards and they are hardly noticed. I like having all the tool all the time & with the extra blades I am able to use two and then have the other 2 blades stay very sharp for when that's needed. I also carry the Leatherman Rebar cross carry on my belt and like to use the pliers for heavy use and the pliers on the SAK for lighter duty tasks. Being spring loaded is great when you need it. I find it useful to use two pliers together pulling some thing from to different direction. I find uses for my SAK everyday and if I had to choose, lucky I do not, between carrying the two SAK or the Rebar I would pick the SAK's. & I always like having the magnifying glass as I do not always carry my reading glasses. And having a pen at all times is very handy too.
Sounds like you are truly prepared. I understand what you mean by needing two pairs of pliers at times as well.
Hey Ben, think of the pliers as large tweezers and it works.. like you I have quite a few Victorinox and leatherman models but these pliers have been at times the only thing that’s got ticks and spines off of my dog! Not so much with the Swiss champ because of its bulk but the deluxe the tinker is the perfect size for it! Cheers
I could see that. I think that the Gerber dime actually makes a very nice set of tweezers out of the pliers. I like those particular pliers because they come down to a very short point for that sort of task.
Hi Ben, I can totally identify with you as a 12 year old thinking that the Swiss Army Champ was a "Must have" because I was the same 12 year old, thinking the exact same thoughts about the one I saw in our local camping store. The major difference is that I purchased my first Swiss Champ today (12/8/2021) exactly 56 years after I first saw and wanted one! lol So why did a 68 year old guy buy a Swiss Champ? Probably because it was so identified as 'The Swiss Army Knife" with all those features....and probably because I never got over thinking that they were so cool when I first saw one...and probably because they are considered to be of such a high standard (I collect watches and the Victorinox watch I have is a high precision instrument and a fine example of Swiss workmanship) and lastly...probably because I am at an age where I can think "Man I always wanted one of those..so I am gonna get me one"! lol And Ben, the magnifying glass is sure as eggs gonna come in handy! Nice review...can't wait to get mine! Cheers, Mate Doons
The outrider strikes me as being the (personally) ideal version of the swisschamp. All of the tools I actually need, and none of the silly fluff.
I think the chisel is intended to be used with the flat side on the opposite side of the wood surface. So it is well positioned. Not very useful, a bit small. Anyways I love the swiss champ, it is always in my backpack and I use it many times.
Chisel is a bit on the small side. Hard to complain considering the vast number of functions this knife offers though.
@@txtoolcrib I agree!
I am using an angler as my EDC because I like to have pliers and the fish scaler. Funny how preferences differ from person to person.
I have never been fishing in my entire life btw :D
Ok... So what do you use the scaler for?
@@jeepnicc It's a decent fork (I eat quite a lot on the go), the ruler is also pretty handy for me (need to measure a lot of small items in my job) - also a nice backscratcher :3
@@mobileore Lol that's great I've heard it's good as an olive fork and I reckon you could eat chunky fries with it too.
You may want to look into the Huntsman Lite for the set of tools you mentioned. It doesnt have the file though.
Yeah damn if they made a Huntsman Lite with a file - or basically a Ranger with an inline Phillips and light or magnifying glass the other side of it, don't mind which, that would be a perfect setup to carry together with a Knipex Cobra XS pliers. Or even better that toolset in alox.
I don’t own a swisschamp, but i do have a cybertool lite, and i absolutely love it 🙂
I’ve never had an opportunity to use that particular knife.
My EDC and favourite tool over ears.
I have a lot of fond memories of this multi tool.
Over ears? Your ears are probably the most important tools you can have 😛
...well, the experts are coming!
Yeah, of that I’m certain. That’s okay though. I really like the SwissChamp, it reminds me of my childhood.
Let them come.
@@OutsideTheTargetDemographic I meant diezelle57
Vic calls them “plus scales”. Some models you might enjoy w/o pliers are the Ranger and Mountaineer. Please Keep up the good work Ben.
Thank you for that. I actually just ordered the Evo Grip 18. That one appealed to me. I ordered the 18 instead of the S18 because I didn’t really care for the blade lock mechanism. I also have never used the Wenger style scissors, so I am very anxious to try those out. I think a 4 layer is probably the widest Victorinox I would personally feel comfortable carrying.
I don't agree with you, I have several multitools from leatherman,sog ,gerber etc. As well victorinox, I carry a Swiss champ every day, The only thing missing from a leatherman are the big pliers and happens that I use more the magnifier glass, tweezers, corkscrew, pen, toothpick, and pin combined than the pliers, I carry the tool in a sheath and not a problem I carry as well a leatherman wave sometimes.
It is a great multi knife, for the right person. I’m glad you find it as useful as you do. The lack of pliers is kind of a deal breaker for myself given the type of work that I do though. Thanks for watching and for sharing your experience.
Swisschamp combined with Knipex Cobra XS is great, those are some serious heavy duty pliers despite their size, 100x stronger than any folding multitool pliers which are only as strong as the pivots connecting the pliers head to the handles. There are videos of big guys standing on the handles of Knipex, which are locked onto a bolt partway up a wall, they don't even move. Put a Leatherman on the ground with the pliers open and stand on the handle facing upwards, and you'll break them.
I actually carry it in my pocket for now, but I am getting a belt sheath delivered for it tomorrow .
I think this one would be better in a sheath myself.
You can screw the pen into the corkscrew and you have a full size pen as well
Cheers I enjoyed your video
Should try the workchamp. The bigger Saks are good. I tend to like them better than the pliers based tools from victorinox. Since I too prefer the surge.
damn if u can't pocket carry the swisschamp something is wrong.
Try carrying most pocket knives ex: buck 110.
Leatherman supertool300 or wave.
They all weigh more than the swisschamp. Ever carry 12g ammo in ur pocket while hunting?
I know, mine fits in the 5th pocket of my jeans. Even carried together with a folder and a pair of Knipex Cobra, it's still less bulk and weight than a Leatherman.
I have found that those pliers are the perfect shape and size to rip fingernails that are hanging back into the cuticle.
I imagine they work for quite a few lightweight tasks.
Do you know if the edge file on the leatherman wave can be used as a metal saw because it does have an edge file, I know leatherman doesn’t advertise it as a metal saw but I was wondering if it can be used to cut metal in a pinch?
I'd like to see a *"Survivor"* model: Wood saw, metal saw, scissors, awl, straight edge blade, *serrated* small blade, tiny signaling mirror (with hole in the middle) LED light (with multi-color ability - red for night vision preservation, as one example), compass, digital clock (plus other features in it, like altometer, stopwatch, alarm, thermometer, etc.), whistle, thin case to hold fish hooks, line, sinker, sewing needle + thread, etc. Adopt the Firefly ferro rod (by Tortoise Gear) in the toothpick hole, and/or FireAnt + tinder inside the corkscrew. Glass breaker. Make another spot to fit a blade sharpener diamond rod, the same shape as the Tortoise Gear ferro rod. Magnifying glass (yes, to start fire as well). Make color options: OD green (on the tools as well), green/brown camo, all blacked out, or glow in the dark yellow and/or orange
If they could somehow switch the current pliers out for *vise grip pliers,* that'd be great. :)
Bloody hell that's a lot. The clock and light wouldn't be much use if you got it wet. Years ago Victorinox sold this in a pouch with other survival items like a small compass and fishing kit. Personally I prefer alox models like Farmer/Farmer X, or 111mm models like Soldier/Trekker for survival. Normally though I have a fixed blade on me too in the outdoors.
The wire cutters will actually cut tie wire so they were pretty useful for me
Cut fluxcore welding wire aswell
Gonna have to dig my swiss knives out now
I like the pliers for fishing
This is one of the best gadgets possible to obtain? Nobody else has the fame or cool factor of this product and its also amazing value for money !
Had one since 1986 , still got it along with a couple more here and there , the late type like you have has a much better file , not over keen on the cheapo looking magnifier lense though ?
It seems like every time I don't carry my Swiss champ is when I suddenly come up with a need for something that isn't on the knife I have with me! If you want to discover a need for a small pliers or a 3" long ruler, go some place without it!
Knipex pliers are kind of the hot thing among multitool users and collectors. Do you use and have any Knipex? Thank you for your good multitool reviews. Can you review some Knipex tools?
He already has mate: ua-cam.com/video/z6kfZ3nQi3I/v-deo.html
Eu gosto da marca victorinox. Meu modelo favorito é o swisschamp.
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Eu também. Embora eu prefira Leatherman um pouco mais.
So maybe the Workchamp is the one which fitts U more..It's even much more ergonomic..
my Grandpa pocket carries one of these
swiss pogchamp
Wow really amazing video!! :D
You like the SwissChamp?
@@txtoolcrib yup!!! ^w^
i would love a Victorinox you can break down rebuild change out .
I have what look as like a Swiss Champ but without the pen. What model is that?
I was going to get the explorer but now I like the swisschamp better
Lot of cool features in that knife.
@@txtoolcrib In black scales too
One of our Cub Scouts stomped a tent steak too far in the ground. THE HOOK on my Fieldmaster took care of business.
Were you still able to cook it afterwards? I like Bearnaise and skinny fires with my steaks.
@@simonh6371 lol ya got me! *stake
Just for a quick laugh, can you put the Swiss Qlip Pocket Clip on the SAK Swiss Champ and don it in the pocket? If I had both, I’d have to try it ha ha.
I might just do that. Lol
You could but it would look mad lol. Seriously though I lay mine flat in the 5th pocket of my jeans.
what are your thoughts on the Victorinox Mountaineer? two layer less, missing almost all the tools you found not very useful in the Champ
I don't know that one, but I will look into it.
i still keep my swiss champ with me. its gotten me out of a lot of situations
A lot of functions on this knife. It was my prized possession for many, many years.
Hey man good review. I got a question for you. I bought one of these a year ago, i dropped it and there is a small dent in the metal it doesn't affect the functionality do you think they will repair it for me free of charge?
I’m sure they would. Though I don’t have any personal knowledge of Victorinox’s warranty program.
I will carry it everyday if I could own one
Onelonelyfarmer carries his everyday
I carry it!
I wish the saw on the hercules would be locking instead of the freaking bottle opener. Like seriously who needs a locking bottle opener? 😆
"The next tool over, is the pliers... *exhale*..."
Yeah....yeah... Grippers/force multiplier/insulated grabber. That's about it. No real torque or power, but they are always on you. 😋
Lol. I take it you’re less than enthusiastic about my commentary?
@@txtoolcrib No, I'm agreeing with it. The "pliers" are not pliers. You cant grap a bolt and tighten it. They are more for gripping, or moving hot objects without getting burned. Leatherman has the pliers. :p
Outside the Target Demographic, very true. They leave a bit to be desired.
@@OutsideTheTargetDemographic If you try to tighten a bolt with Leatherman or in fact any needlenose/bluntnose pliers you'll find the radial force of trying to turn it forces the handles open and you'll just loosen the grip and it will slip. The Crunch is the only multitool which can deal with nuts and bolts effectively. Hence many people are now carrying Knipex Cobra in whatever size suits them. They are forged and intrinsically stronger than any multitool pliers which are only ever as strong as the pivot connecting the plier head to the handles.
@@simonh6371 Agreed. My Wave sits at home, and I carry a cut down crescent wrench, and a vice grip plier. Otherwise, the Victorinox pliers work for all precision/standoff needs I've had in...years. 👍
The Wenger serrated scissors are miles better than the Victorinox.
I haven’t found that to be the case in my experience.
@@txtoolcrib Well, the serrated scissors catch and cut, whereas my Victorinox scissors just push things forward.
Especially things like thread, fishing line, moustache hair & thin gauge electrical wire.
I don't know if the modern models have the same scissors as my knife from 1981. The edge of the scissor blade is like the bottom edge of the file tool.
They are, I believe. They do a great job of cutting on a variety of different items. I just find the Victorinox scissors to be a bit smoother for most applications.
it's a wire stripper, not a wire bender.
Technically speaking, it is actually both.
yeah, I guess.
Not a guess, the truth.
well, they list it as a wire stripper. so more of a wire stripper.