Are You Priced Out of the Music Scene?
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- Опубліковано 24 лис 2022
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#taylorswift #ticketmaster #concerts
"5,000 of our tickets are bought within 5 microseconds. We can't do anything to recognize and stop that!"
it's just this crazy world we're livin in!
Thank you for explaining this mess so well and for not solely making it look like a Taylor Swift issue. I've seen a lot of people in those social media 'fandom wars' say things like this was never a problem before Taylor went on tour. Which is obviously untrue.
Random side note that screams 'fuck you ticketmaster': Taylor Swift actually did opt out of dynamic pricing, which was why a lot of people were angry at her at first and were saying she was just money hungry. Turns out Ticketmaster found a loophole within their own 'rule'. As long as tickets stay within the set range the artist agreed to, in this case the price range was $49-$449, then they can technically make the worst seats still $449. That's why the only tickets that were still available and not resale were nosebleeds for $400+ dollars. All this to basically say that Ticketmaster is insanely sneaky and tricky, when when they look like they are trying to help the artist.
As someone who has been getting tickets and going to a lot of shows recently, it's rarely been a smooth ride. It took 3 different sales for me to get Paramore tickets. Arctic Monkeys tickets were a stressful situation as well, it's gonna be really interesting to see if anything happens now that arguably the biggest pop star in the world faced the affects of the monopoly, seeing how congress is now getting involved. Great video!
wow thank you for this! and yeah dynamic pricing shouldn't be a thing, I think a lot more people would appreciate non-transferable tickets if it meant stable pricing. sorry to hear it was rough getting tickets for those other shows :\
I never comment on ppls vids but what I love about your videos is that they're video essay quality editing without being dragged on n redundant. u answer the question in your video title and go. keep up the good work :)
thank you, i appreciate that :)
Firstly, just want to say I think you're genuinely one of the best music-centered creators out there. It's just a matter of time before you're doing crazy numbers! Your videos are always super insightful and in many cases have changed the way I think about something. As for ticketmaster, I really think the only answer is legislation. Anything short of literally every major artist uniting to boycott them that's the only way things will change. I think there should be a cap on the price tickets can be resold at, using ticketing bots should be made specifically illegal, and perhaps venues should even have to reserve a certain amount of tickets for day of show in person purchase.
aw wow thank you for the kind words! agree with your take here as well, government really needs to step up to the plate on this one
This is a great and really informative video 👏👏
thank you sir elters
So does the ticket increase mean that when tickets go on sale at a specific venue on a specific day they go up? Or is this an average across every location globally based on locations that open before others that feeds into the local venue prices? Im thinking the “bots” are not factoring in the local average of show goers that will buy a ticket (btw, it’s probably not a bot but a terrible data feed that doesn’t factor in local economies)
The most I would spend on a ticket is 100$. So this sucks
agree :(
I live in Malaga (Spain) a big city, and since many years, we don't have any major shows anymore (not even the most successful spanish artists), they go to some near villages like Marbella and Fuengirola with extremely high tickets prices. I was wondering why suddenly no one comes to the big city... and obviously it's because the venues of my city don't have a contract with livenation/ticketmaster but in these villages they do. I have just noticed this after the Bruce springsteen/taylor swift/ ticketmaster disaster in the USA and seeing that a famous spanish singer is coming to my city (the only one :() but he's NOT a livenation artist...dynamic pricing+ so called VIP tickets shouldn't exist but unfortunetaly crazy fans pay a fortune encouraging these outrageous prices...
would like to see you doing a video based on beach house!
have thought about it before, maybe!
My fiance looked up the pricing for 2 tickets for her and our daughter to go see Taylor Swift in December, and the price for 2 tickets to the Sunday show is $3800 and Sundays are the cheaper shows of the week.
In high school we went to some of the biggest tours and shows with our little part-time, minimum wage jobs. We saw so many shows at the height of their popularity. Metallica, Live, Hootie and the Blowfish, Motley Crue, Bon Jovi, U2.... and we did it all on the part-time pay of a convenience store clerk. Now I'm looking at $236 for a Luke Combs show. Coldplay, Beyonce, Foo Fighters are $400. Seems concerts are no longer affordable entertainment for everybody. Who is even paying $500 or more for a concert?
Its almost criminal, and that for mostly mediocre music, 50% no insturment to be found. Total disgusting sadness
I have zero interest in ever going to a concert in my life, my brain would explode from sensory overload and i hate loud noise and crowds...there is nothing appealing about it to me. I really dont understand the attraction but this vid was so informative and fascinating i stumbled upon it and watched the whole thing😅👍
Because if performed well, live music is waaaaaay better than just listening to music off your phone.
Won't give a dollar for this people i will rather give it to a homeless person
Dynamic pricing is a scan it inflates the prices way beyond what they should be.
I wont Go Just to Listen Music which you can hear at Home The Smarter Ones wont Spent on Music , So You want to vibe and want to experience once thats Ok If you want vibe Call Your Friends
If the band takes forty percent of the take at seventy an average sale price that's 400k for one gig do that 60 times a year that's 25mill a year the band takes half and the road and lawyers and managers divide the rest anyway you look at it it's still good money and you still have the rep that the fans are more important than the $. Because most rock stars didn't get into it just for the money. They did it to be somebody among the masses. The dead hardly took time off from touring and they sold out every friggin show without fail. rockstars should think about this because they are looking at CEO money and not working like CEOs which is ridiculous but shoot three concerts a week and time to inspire themselves creatively and still have a home life if they choose and I hope they do because it is important to the human experience. Spouse and children make you realize there's something more to life than just the cerebral or the physical but hearing the word daddy from your progeny for the first time takes you to another level of humanity. Partying is fine and sometimes good but doing the human experience is also. Having it all is the whole point of being rockstar. PS the last dead show I paid was like nineteen dollars with taxes and service fees in the bay area.
Woah, great video. How the hell did the algorithm decide to recommend this one?
thank you! i don't know but i'm happy it did :)
Im from the days of twenty dollar tickets so over hundred so its like man I don't like these people that much, think the last concert I went to was roger waters and it was like thirty
Ehh, as a non-music fan. Live music is a luxury. I support price controls and market intervention to provide true human necessities, like food, housing and electricity. Not seeing a concert is nowhere near as vital.
On the upcoming artists point, more expensive tickets _also_ mean more money in the music industry, which may then spend more money developing and supporting upcoming artists (or at least, it should, unless everyone involved is thinking very short-term).
Live music is a leisure activity, but not one that's inherently worth more than 4 figures on any given day. And I don't necessarily believe in trickle down economics like you described. A private party will always step in (ticketmaster) to take their share.
@@sergescardigno trickle down economics do not work!😍 glad to see im not the only person who thinks that.
You are just talking nonsense. I was thinking of going to see the local chamber music orchestra next weekend but they want $40 bucks. These use to be $10-20 concerts and half the place would be empty. There will be absolutely no one at this concert for $40 bucks.
I would suspect many concerts are losing money and some of these moves are from desperation to try to stay afloat. The mid level touring artist has to be getting crushed.
Scalpers and greed I paid £100 extra for Justin Timberlake tickets
A very nice, shockingly obscure video.
haha thank you - did you just not expect to see this on you homepage? either way glad to have ya!
I just want to go see foo fighters again 😕
I go to concerts a lot. But now Shakira just released her tickets and they are over thousands and not even close wtf
There's an easier way to explain this. It's not free market if this market belongs to one company. it's actually not a market so much as a private auction.
thank you, Americans are so happy with their capitalism and even that they are fucking up big time.
The solution; don't buy them; don't go! Then watch how fast the concert ticket outlets reduce the price!
Boycott Ticketmaster, for the price of a concert today plus travel and accom and food and drink, i could easily afford a 2 week trip abroad! I havent used them since i paid for Black Crowes in Manchester for £69 in 2019 and saw the show in 2022 cos of COVID! I thought it was overpriced then and I'd rather see smaller bands like Dirty Honey who don't seem to use Ticketmaster for £20 yet still afford to do world tours each year!
Its the idol worship at the worst level. I cant justify the prices. Best thing is to work the events. GET PAID to be there.Go to indie music shows yall.
At the stadium tour high end it is ultimately supply/demand. I really have no problem with biggest artist charging whatever they want. The mid level is totally messed up through from losing clubs from Covid and inflation. In upstate NY, enough venues closed during covid that we have shit going on this summer for concerts. With the venue loss and inflation the mid level artist have to jack up prices to levels that hurt demand or it just isn't worth it. I would drive to see Deathgrips this summer but not for $100 bucks. I could afford it but it is just not worth it. Not paying $10 for a $5 hamburger either. I can easily find 5 concerts right now that I would go to this summer if I had a 50% off coupon. Instead I will go to zero. This is just the final nail in the coffin of the old music scene. Your either a pop star or sorry , do something else.
No its not, you should look at what is delivered aswell. No artist is worth over 100 bucks per person. The product just isn't there. 3.5 hour plus big event, maybe, but that is based on labor anbd product. Claiming its morally right for everybody to just slap a price on a product is nonsense, especially if your target audience is below 18 y.o.
why go to a live show when u can listen for free on youtube?
I stop going to concerts. It’s out of hand. I boycott this ticket insanity
congress allowed the merger, they are solely to blame, but individual artists also have to take some of it, last year we saw Alice Cooper in Reno, even with fees tickets were around $65, same venue this year with Rob Zombie, back row seats with fees over $117, I'm not paying that, there's no justification for almost doubling the price !
Im here cause of the algorithm
"And while maybe this conversation seems political" it IS political. Part of the root of the issue was the DoJ approving the merger, right? People gotta stop avoiding politics, 'cause that's EXACTLY what those in power wants for us: to stay alienated from politics, so they can hold their power and do whatever they want. Life IS politics, our feelings ARE political. As long as you live ON EARTH you gotta get to know politics, even if you're not thoroughly involved. I mean, native indigenous people living in the middle of the Amazon should understand politics because their destinies are being dictated by people they never even heard of through systems they didn't even chose to be a part of and aren't even heard. So yeah, we who live amidst such political systems need to understand them and make use of them.
Get f*cking political.
It's a conversation that obviously has political implications, but the sentiment behind enjoying performance art for a reasonable price feels more like a part of the core human experience that should be built-in. The point was to say this topic (to me), isn't a political issue, it's basic human decency. In reality, unfortunately, yes, it's a political issue.
PREACHHH
Over 300 bucks at retail for nose bleed Taylor Swift tickets? ahahahahahaaaa!!!
Workers of the world unite
unironically
This video reminds me of that girl who paid $10k for harry styles and people clowned her 💀
as they should, if you pay 10k to see someone in concert that will never know you exist, you habe some issues to take care of
lmao harry’s tickets are 120-400
400 is just nuts
Pearl Jam was right
Monopolies should be illegal!!
I can't afford but I don't go I think you're a fool to pay that kind of money it's a rip-off no way in hell and most of the music industry
Let's say there is no Ticketmaster. Where are these bands going to get all the money to pay all the people that help the band. The band pays the lighting, electric, rodees, merch booth and more. Back then bands would eat sandwiches and sleep over at friends house or in the van. They had no money. everyone owes everyone money.
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They have Lil Wayne performing in Atlanta at the Tabernacle April 22nd and minimum you're going to pay is $675.
and that for a mediocre artist, just sad stuff
It’s literally a scam
Good thing I don't care about any of these boring mediocre artists that charge outrageous ticket prices. I don't really care who's to blame for ripping off brainwashed fools, I just know at one time the music biz was a great artistic industry, now it's a boring greed-driven industry.
As usual what I said and what this thing wrote
Jesus is god to be young is immortal the dead were a great concert money is great especially if you can buy and or impress your friends that you have, friends from when you were young or when you thought they didn't know you were a person of means. As it says use your money to make friends Lk 16:9*
I spent $1000+ for a SZA ticket in March.
why you do this?
@@paddenstoel95 i like sza
@@corbonthec0b still a 1000 is cracra
Harry styles managers Azoff are the ones that merged Live Nation and Ticketmaster and Oakview group that own and run venues. I blame Harry styles as an artists because he is family friends with Azoffs he and Azoff family are tight. other Artists don't have that favoritism or protection. I think Harry like his family friends the Azoffs only care about fame and money. There's a reason harry sold out shows when his bosses own the whole monopoly and can biasedly channel his career to the top echelons. He is a money making machine for them and harry is a willing and greedy participant. HE has been groomed by Azoff since 2013 when he was in secret talks with Azoff behind his 1D bandmates backs to go solo. Harry like his callous manager Azoff let Zayn take the fall for leaving fist for his mental health- the 1D fans directed vitriol and hate towards Zayn for "breaking up the band" when in reality Harry was planning to go solo all along.
Azoffs no longer ceo of Ticketmaster or live nation yet they still have their hand in that pie. Recently they were mentioned in the Taylor swift Ticketmaster lawsuit.
I can't understand why someone would want to see someone live when they can just listen to them on YT in higher quality
sounds like you need to see a properly good show!
Why would I go outside if I can just look up a picture of grass on google?
Im here cause of the algorithm