He literally outlines a logic where only Ronaldo or Messi can be world class then realises how dumb he sounds and backtracks. Any fan knows Salah has been world class for many years.
@@biafo4541 this “big moments” argument is so lazy. It’s the same one used to discredit Kane. For both salah and Kane, Liverpool and spurs respectively wouldn’t even be in a position to have “big moments” if they hadn’t scored goals to win “easy” games
Just because he has his own opinion that’s different from yours.. crazy you say… and I imagine you know more not having played professional football,right? Crazy indeed.
@@channelveritas7474 An opinion can be challenged. He came without fact or evidence, just emotion. Statistical and video evidence can prove that he's wrong....this isn't the first time.
@channelveritas7474 when the opinion uses a criteria in which only one of Messi, Ronaldo, Suarez, Kane and Lewandowski can be considered world class then that opinion is absolute rubbish.
@ I respect you voicing your opinion and indeed others too, - be they ex-professional footballers or random dudes on the internet., or whether i agree with you or not.. I imagine I must sound “crazy” 😁
If Salah isn’t world class then no player in the premier league is world class. You could argue P4P Salah has been the best player in the premier league since he’s stepped foot in the prem.
@@DoJo-i8m I 100% agree, but we can only judge Mo Salah in this current crop of players playing right now. He is world class and it’s not even a debate.
@@realtalkfootballtv the current crop of big game major trophy winning players? I think the most fair thing to say is, he's world class among the best of the rest...
@DoJo-i8m but that's cause the quality has dropped across the world. Doesn't mean there aren't world class players. That's like saying no boxer is as good as Ali so there's been no champs since
Mo Sala is a great player. World class means Sala will be an automatic choice for any coach in any League . So yeah he is world class especially when you concider his character on or off the pitch.
Troy still can't admit, he was wrong with his belief that Mo Salah isn't world-class. Salah stats says it all year in year out especially this season Troy miles better than your Vini Jr.
@@omarfathy2381 ok then on that basis all the comments on this video saying Mohammed is world class means absolutely nothing (unless the comment is from a world class player)
@ these people don’t go on interviews and tv and say their opnion And these people have stats and evidence that back up their claim what is his evidence that salah is not world class
Salah is World Class, at the moment I would say on form he is the best in the world. He was incredible in the 2nd half against Newcastle. Watched Vini Jr yesterday and he doesn't quite look back to his best yet. Troy go back and watch Liverpool 4 vs Real 0 and Gerrard is World Class in that game! Suarez is World Class and probably the best player to ever play in the Premier League!
@@JosephMoore-Gilbertbecause WE ARE LIVERPOOL, and Troy is a washed up footballer who will say anything to get in the lime light again. The best thing Troy should do, is to shut his hole, and give his mouth a chance.
According to his logic, there can only be 5 world-class players at a time. What nonsense. If you are currently the best player in the world in your position and are also in the discussion for the best player in PL history in that position, you are definitely world class. But apparently his bias gets in the way. What I agree with him, however, is this ridiculous phenomenon of players being described as world-class after a very short period of time.
I just this hate this media trend of having mediocre players as pundits giving extreme opinion to build their name. Deeney lost my respect when he said there was no discrimination against Black players getting coaching jobs. This is what Kendrick meant when he said They Not Like Us.
I feel like Deeney is everywhere at the moment when it comes to punditry. Some of his takes including this one are beyond me, good thing some fans can look beyond there club and realize Mo Salah is the best right winger the premier league has ever seen and yes he is world class.
bare minimum requirement to be world class - consistent - turn up in big games - win trophies (its a minimum requirement, still dosnt mean your world class) salah has done that. over and over and over again. This muppet talks about eye test lol ok well my eyes tell me rodrygo is maybe a cleaner player than salah so hes better than salah now - troy deeney 2024
Troy is right that Salah has always missed big chances. That's nothing new. Having said that he is still one of the best attacking players in the world and there are only a couple of players potentially better in his postion (that is open to debate) so in my book that makes him world class.
Maldini, Ashley Cole, Roberto Carlos. Only one allowed to be world class Troy? 😂. All three players overlapped by a significant number of years. What about Terry, Rio Ferdinand, Cannavaro? Only one allowed…. Ronaldo, Romario, Batistuta, Shearer, Bergkamp…
Of course he’s world class. They’re talking about him about being World class this season and it’s probably not going to be his best season. His 2017/18 season stats were ridiculous
I think Deeney knows he looks stupid saying Salah aint world class.. But how else is he going to get that Drive gig with out rubbishing Liverpool or a Liverpool super star..
One way of looking at it -> if club bullies have not dominated in world cups, they never world class. The highest pressure competition. R9, Messi, Pele, Beckenbauer, Zidane, Ronaldinho. Baresi, etc.
To say that Salah isn't world class is probably quite silly when it seems he is, most would say he is, and his numbers suggest that he is, but Deeney is right that it is an opinion and everyone is allowed one, and he explains his reasning. Also though, Deeney wasn't 'rubbish', and was a decent player. Stats back that up too.
@ My problem with this, is that he is deciding whether players are world class or not. Yet he never achieved anything in his pitiful excuse for a career and he sits there judging players who have more talent in one foot than he had in his entire body. It’s a joke.
In my opinion, World Class means the top 2 players in each position. Basically if you were to play a game where all of the best players played in the two teams, who would make those teams. Can you say that Salah isn't in that top 2?
Ramblings of someone who sadly has no clue of what he's saying. Is he trying to be controversial for clout? Maybe! But the reality is that Deeney is putting up an argument that 99.9% of people know is false.
i think we should settle on the criteria of world class, if youre no.1 in your position youre more than world class youre the best in the world in your position, i think i to be world class u should be atleast top 5 in your position not just 1
I agree. My opinion of world class is from day 1 you've been above everyone else. He wasn't better than Hazard. He's had a better career than Hazard. But so has Scott Carson doesn't make you world class. I really don't care for those who disagree with me either. So don't waste your time responding.
Shevchenko, Henry, Zlatan, Batistuta, Raul, Del Piero, Ronaldo, Vieri, Eto'o, Trezeguet, Shearer, Owen, Inzaghi etc All these are forwards who played around the same time and in their prime in most cases. According to Troy Deeney's criteria of only one world class forward, only one of these guys is world class. It's an argument that maybe makes sense, but when you actually break it down, you realise how ridiculous it is. Imagine going on television in the early 2000's and putting forward the argument that only Henry is the world class player on this list, and the rest aren't because only one striker can be world class at a time. Yet here we have two people actually thinking about whether Messi or Suarez are world class. Troy wanted to say Messi isn't but chickened out in the end
Bro your saying when someone does 1 thing bro Mo has done bits for 7 years constantly he ain't no 1 hit wonder bro if you can't see Salah is not world class your mad you speak bout Barnes n he is one of my legends but look at Mo's numbers bro not sure wot ur saying
I don’t think I respect Troy opinion. The fact that he said only one is insane. Let’s look at the 1995 - 2010 football and tell me. Buffo/Casillas/VanderVart aren’t world class or the defenders n striker n midfielders in those Era. Troy is a joke. 🤦🏽♂️
It’s so obvious how much deeney hates Liverpool. Every time I hear him talk about us it’s always the same He really struggles to say anything positive about us.
Looking at these comments I swear no one is listening to what's being said the point was the term 'World Class' is being thrown around and everyone is getting therefore making the tag meaningless.💯🤯
He very clearly said, on multiple occasions that only player per position can be considered world class. So only one defender can be considered world class. Meaning for example only one of Baresi or Maldini can ever be considered world class. Remember only one defender is world class. Nothing wrong with saying that too many players are called world class. But Troy's logic is just as bad if not worse. Because by saying only one defender can world class, then how do you apply that logic when you have fullbacks and centre backs. And I haven't even mentioned left backs, right backs and wingbacks
He literally outlines a logic where only Ronaldo or Messi can be world class then realises how dumb he sounds and backtracks. Any fan knows Salah has been world class for many years.
Deeney: Salah is not World Class
Also Deeney: To replace Salah you need 2 or 3 players.
Me: 🚮
Deeney equals click bait
Looks like Liverpool fans drew the 'who shall we try and piss off today' card at Talksport.
😂
Er.. Man Utd and Rashford., look at the talksport vids for today… dem the receipts!
"To replace him you're gonna need 2 or 3 players" yet he is not world class 😂
Troy adds value. Comedy value
"I'm a bit of a historian" for 2003 reference
Ah you big melt Troy
The numbers he’s put out consistently for the last 7/8 seasons makes salah world class, to say he’s not is just ridiculous
@@adamscott6719 is that the template for world class these days....
@@biafo4541yes? Whatever you think you did with that, you didn’t. He’s consistently producing elite levels
@@fiachragallagher1337 I think I did, hence your reaction 😅
Now he's elite, consistently not showing up for big moments?
@@biafo4541 this “big moments” argument is so lazy. It’s the same one used to discredit Kane. For both salah and Kane, Liverpool and spurs respectively wouldn’t even be in a position to have “big moments” if they hadn’t scored goals to win “easy” games
@@biafo4541he’s the biggest moment player in world football, look at his performances and stats against the top teams in England.
Crazy that you can have a *10+ year career in football & still know nothing about it...*
Just because he has his own opinion that’s different from yours.. crazy you say… and I imagine you know more not having played professional football,right? Crazy indeed.
@@channelveritas7474 An opinion can be challenged. He came without fact or evidence, just emotion. Statistical and video evidence can prove that he's wrong....this isn't the first time.
@@elijahtchilembe-mpovie2715 Salah is a stat merchant
@channelveritas7474 when the opinion uses a criteria in which only one of Messi, Ronaldo, Suarez, Kane and Lewandowski can be considered world class then that opinion is absolute rubbish.
@ I respect you voicing your opinion and indeed others too, - be they ex-professional footballers or random dudes on the internet., or whether i agree with you or not.. I imagine I must sound “crazy” 😁
Salah is 100% World class
You know your opinion is ridiculous when Goldstein is the voice of reason.
If Salah isn’t world class then no player in the premier league is world class.
You could argue P4P Salah has been the best player in the premier league since he’s stepped foot in the prem.
World class isn't what it used to be.
@@DoJo-i8m I 100% agree, but we can only judge Mo Salah in this current crop of players playing right now. He is world class and it’s not even a debate.
@@realtalkfootballtv the current crop of big game major trophy winning players?
I think the most fair thing to say is, he's world class among the best of the rest...
But they would say any English players are world class
@DoJo-i8m but that's cause the quality has dropped across the world. Doesn't mean there aren't world class players. That's like saying no boxer is as good as Ali so there's been no champs since
Salah is obviously world class.
This Deeney guy is funny though. How someone like Salah is not considered world class is beyond me
How has Salah not won the Ballon D’Or or FIFA Men’s player of the year award???
He's not from Europe or south America. Plus he's Muslim
He's at liverpool instead of an oil club
Suarez, was World class. He scored goals for fun in a poor Liverpool side, and his goals were exceptional...ask Norwich City fans!
Norwich were shite
Every football fans are agreeing Salah is world class player period but this average ex player talking nonsense 😂
This same fools called rashford and Saka world class 😢
It's crazy to think he's not world class like seriously any bias aside he's the definition of world class! Ridiculously good player
Mo Sala is a great player. World class means Sala will be an automatic choice for any coach in any League . So yeah he is world class especially when you concider his character on or off the pitch.
Anyone who thinks Salah isn't world class talk like deeney way to much head trauma 😅
Troy still can't admit, he was wrong with his belief that Mo Salah isn't world-class. Salah stats says it all year in year out especially this season Troy miles better than your Vini Jr.
Asking an avarage player to decide if a player is world class or not lmao
So should only world class players can say he's world class 😂
@ yes because they have the qualifications to do so
@ if he can say if this player is world class or not He should have been a world-class player himself
@@omarfathy2381 ok then on that basis all the comments on this video saying Mohammed is world class means absolutely nothing (unless the comment is from a world class player)
@ these people don’t go on interviews and tv and say their opnion
And these people have stats and evidence that back up their claim what is his evidence that salah is not world class
Salah is World Class, at the moment I would say on form he is the best in the world. He was incredible in the 2nd half against Newcastle. Watched Vini Jr yesterday and he doesn't quite look back to his best yet. Troy go back and watch Liverpool 4 vs Real 0 and Gerrard is World Class in that game! Suarez is World Class and probably the best player to ever play in the Premier League!
The turn up to training intoxicated numpty is off again 😂
Seems turning up to work intoxicated is a habit for him
Jesus, not this again. We know Troy doesn't have a clue, no need to keep on proving it.
What because he doesn’t agree with what you think
@@JosephMoore-Gilbertbecause WE ARE LIVERPOOL, and Troy is a washed up footballer who will say anything to get in the lime light again. The best thing Troy should do, is to shut his hole, and give his mouth a chance.
According to his logic, there can only be 5 world-class players at a time. What nonsense.
If you are currently the best player in the world in your position and are also in the discussion for the best player in PL history in that position, you are definitely world class.
But apparently his bias gets in the way.
What I agree with him, however, is this ridiculous phenomenon of players being described as world-class after a very short period of time.
This guy waffles absolute nonsense at this point. Just an opinion.
Troy is delusion talksport please stop having him on your station
Sounds like jealousy to me
FFS not again. Within 15 seconds he mentions Olise when talking about Salah. The guy is just a weapon.
Mo salah can walk into any first team in the world: world class
😂 saka is much better
@SC.KINGDOM sakas better at corners and that's it.
@@georgeball6997 lol 😆 LFC can't talk about success anyway 🤣 1 league in 9 years
I just this hate this media trend of having mediocre players as pundits giving extreme opinion to build their name.
Deeney lost my respect when he said there was no discrimination against Black players getting coaching jobs. This is what Kendrick meant when he said They Not Like Us.
Box tickers
@ most of the pundits I am talking about are white guys like Sutton and and Robbie Savage.
@@Delboy0 good for you?
Like Trash Donkeeney's opinion matters!!!
Deeney is chatting absolute 💩
There’s a difference between “world class” and “the best in the world”
No wonder this guy hates world class tag 😂
I feel like Deeney is everywhere at the moment when it comes to punditry. Some of his takes including this one are beyond me, good thing some fans can look beyond there club and realize Mo Salah is the best right winger the premier league has ever seen and yes he is world class.
Deeney paints his hairline on hes just salty cus salahs got a real one now.
Troy Deeney has taken over from Rory Bremner and Gabby as the biggest tw@ on TalkSport... not only taken over, but owns it forever
bare minimum requirement to be world class
- consistent
- turn up in big games
- win trophies
(its a minimum requirement, still dosnt mean your world class)
salah has done that. over and over and over again. This muppet talks about eye test lol
ok well my eyes tell me rodrygo is maybe a cleaner player than salah so hes better than salah now - troy deeney 2024
Goldstein questioning Suarez being World Class is atrocious
Troy is right that Salah has always missed big chances. That's nothing new. Having said that he is still one of the best attacking players in the world and there are only a couple of players potentially better in his postion (that is open to debate) so in my book that makes him world class.
He basically answers why he's world class but doesn't think he is
Actually, Mo Salah is more than just a world-class player... He, as Ronaldo and Messy, is a unique football player
Maldini, Ashley Cole, Roberto Carlos. Only one allowed to be world class Troy? 😂. All three players overlapped by a significant number of years.
What about Terry, Rio Ferdinand, Cannavaro? Only one allowed….
Ronaldo, Romario, Batistuta, Shearer, Bergkamp…
Of course he’s world class. They’re talking about him about being World class this season and it’s probably not going to be his best season. His 2017/18 season stats were ridiculous
Xavi and iniesta two lads at 5"7" ruled the world fo' what...!!!....nearly 15 years......
If salah isn’t world class then Mbappe isn’t! Mbappe couldn’t lace salahs boots
Shrek voice - “ So donkey is Salah world class?”
Troy - “no”
I think Deeney knows he looks stupid saying Salah aint world class.. But how else is he going to get that Drive gig with out rubbishing Liverpool or a Liverpool super star..
Muppet, if Salah is not world class, no one is
One way of looking at it -> if club bullies have not dominated in world cups, they never world class. The highest pressure competition. R9, Messi, Pele, Beckenbauer, Zidane, Ronaldinho. Baresi, etc.
Then there hasn't been a world class player in the Premier league for about 10 years if Mo Salah isn't considered a world class player
no way he's still saying Salah's not world class,wow!😂
Everyone is world class.
The classic called out on your bs and instead of admitting you got it wrong you double down on your bs move.
Who is world class then troy ?
It shows troy deeney saying salah in the same bracket as vinny Jr and olise shows he's brained dead. 😂😂😂
Troys saying world class is chucked about to easy but salah is consistent and does it every year
He’s delusional
Biggest Numptyyyyy 😂😂
With each game that goes by, Salah is proving how dumb his opinion is! He clearly has an agenda against salah or just creating noise for attention
“Only one player per position is world class.”
“Are both Messi and Ronaldo world class?”
“Yes” 🤦♂️
To say that Salah isn't world class is probably quite silly when it seems he is, most would say he is, and his numbers suggest that he is, but Deeney is right that it is an opinion and everyone is allowed one, and he explains his reasning. Also though,
Deeney wasn't 'rubbish', and was a decent player. Stats back that up too.
It’s a radio station. They piss you off with an opinion. You ring up. They make a fortune.
Is that so hard to work out?
Thanks Troy you're right !
Imagine Troy Deeney thinking he has the right to decide whether players are world class or not. The man is an absolute clown.
It’s his opinion, you may have a different one, it’s ok mate !
@ My problem with this, is that he is deciding whether players are world class or not. Yet he never achieved anything in his pitiful excuse for a career and he sits there judging players who have more talent in one foot than he had in his entire body. It’s a joke.
I like Troy but he’s on some drugs. I want what he’s taking 😂
Troy is trying to be relevant by using controversial opinions about players from big fanbases. It's all about the Views.
In my opinion, World Class means the top 2 players in each position. Basically if you were to play a game where all of the best players played in the two teams, who would make those teams.
Can you say that Salah isn't in that top 2?
Better numbers than most in his position and still producing, Troy Deeney is a bad tool, hates Liverpool.. never praises just criticising constantly
I am really starting to think heading should be banned in football. Deeney was always putting his head on the ball.
Who cares what Troy Deeney says? I don’t know why Liverpool fans care what he says.
Hes lost it 😂
Who amongst them was not world class?
Xavi, Iniesta, Pirlo, Paul Scholes, Gerrard, Lampard, Cesc, Veira.
Is Deeney comments even relevant. He was bang average striker who would kill for a career of Salah
Ramblings of someone who sadly has no clue of what he's saying. Is he trying to be controversial for clout? Maybe! But the reality is that Deeney is putting up an argument that 99.9% of people know is false.
Who is a better right winger than Salah?
Im a United fan... Salah is definitely world class!
His logic is very dumb Salah is a world class
i think we should settle on the criteria of world class, if youre no.1 in your position youre more than world class youre the best in the world in your position, i think i to be world class u should be atleast top 5 in your position not just 1
Troy Deeney doesn’t have a clue what he’s on about. He makes most of it up on the spot 😂
This, coupled with his BBC "Team of the Week" selections, solidify my opinion that he doesn't know what he's seeing.
I agree. My opinion of world class is from day 1 you've been above everyone else. He wasn't better than Hazard. He's had a better career than Hazard. But so has Scott Carson doesn't make you world class. I really don't care for those who disagree with me either. So don't waste your time responding.
Ya he’s waffling
Troy deeney its like everyone is trying to stitch me up!! On lad you stitched yourself up lad
A World class player is a player who consistently performs every season which mo has done numbers don’t lie mo is definitely world class
😂😂Was Troy Deeney EVER a world class player😵💫🥴🥴🤣🤣🤣🤣🧱
Zidane ronaldinho! deeney is mental
Shevchenko, Henry, Zlatan, Batistuta, Raul, Del Piero, Ronaldo, Vieri, Eto'o, Trezeguet, Shearer, Owen, Inzaghi etc
All these are forwards who played around the same time and in their prime in most cases. According to Troy Deeney's criteria of only one world class forward, only one of these guys is world class. It's an argument that maybe makes sense, but when you actually break it down, you realise how ridiculous it is.
Imagine going on television in the early 2000's and putting forward the argument that only Henry is the world class player on this list, and the rest aren't because only one striker can be world class at a time.
Yet here we have two people actually thinking about whether Messi or Suarez are world class. Troy wanted to say Messi isn't but chickened out in the end
Bro your saying when someone does 1 thing bro Mo has done bits for 7 years constantly he ain't no 1 hit wonder bro if you can't see Salah is not world class your mad you speak bout Barnes n he is one of my legends but look at Mo's numbers bro not sure wot ur saying
Who picked the colour of Deeney's shirt?
This guy is deluded 😂am sorry
Goldstein says Suarez isn’t world class 😂😂😂😂
Salah is world class, I support United. No more needs to be said....
Troy sounds like angela raynar
I don’t think I respect Troy opinion. The fact that he said only one is insane. Let’s look at the 1995 - 2010 football and tell me. Buffo/Casillas/VanderVart aren’t world class or the defenders n striker n midfielders in those Era. Troy is a joke. 🤦🏽♂️
Oh troy my boy you wouldnt know world class if it hits you in the face😂😂😂
It’s so obvious how much deeney hates Liverpool. Every time I hear him talk about us it’s always the same He really struggles to say anything positive about us.
He makes no sense. Only one players allowed to be world class per position. 😂😂
Looking at these comments I swear no one is listening to what's being said the point was the term 'World Class' is being thrown around and everyone is getting therefore making the tag meaningless.💯🤯
He very clearly said, on multiple occasions that only player per position can be considered world class.
So only one defender can be considered world class. Meaning for example only one of Baresi or Maldini can ever be considered world class. Remember only one defender is world class.
Nothing wrong with saying that too many players are called world class. But Troy's logic is just as bad if not worse. Because by saying only one defender can world class, then how do you apply that logic when you have fullbacks and centre backs. And I haven't even mentioned left backs, right backs and wingbacks