That’s range in an empty van. Most vans are full of tools and equipment. Fill the van and then see what mileage you get. That is the test we all want to see, not some muppet saying it a lovely van and it quite
Yeah, I have a feeling if I was to fill this with gear and drive a decent distance It's going to drop quite dramatically. How long am going to be waiting to drive home after a day on site... What if I get there and need to hire some extra 2 stroke equipment?
@@1000Bats We will be waiting some time for that test. They won’t do it because if they do, no one will buy the vans. My van has about 3/4 of a ton of equipment all the time than have to carry heavy parts for different jobs. Think I’ll be waiting a while before I buy an electric van. Or maybe I could pull a battery bank trailer 🤔😀
Proace would be a great platform for solid state and solar roof around 2025 in the US. When we can get a real world 250 miles with 15 minutes of charge. When we can run the AC while parked overnight for 3 nights , run 1000w of 110v for 2 hours and still drive 30 miles with that same 15 minutes of charge. I heard they will be much cheaper to make than ICE vans soon... so when a base cargo panel EV van like this has an MSRP of under $25k USD.
Tom here: Absolutely - the components of an EV van are so fewer in number than ICE. There's less moving parts. So, maintenance and repairs will be far easier. The future is less expensive in the long run.
@@vanaramauk No doubt, but of course price too often is about what people will pay vs what cost to produce was. Brave are those in the forefront flipping the R&D cost for a competitive advantage. It will sound like sci-fi, but there is so much more at play here than R&D, materials, assembly and complexity.. at some magical point unmanned robotic automation and AI all the way through mining, recycling, assembly and testing will hopefully do more than just reduce cost to market, but will be seen in retail pricing.. sure only competition will force that hand and I'm sure that is where politicians will get their dirty little fingers in the pie with trade restrictions and such.
I have the money set aside for the first EV van with a solar roof (especially a camper van) but car people on youtube rally against solar on van roofs harder than the Israelis giving Muslims equal rights.
I've been driving my small van for 2 years with 320w solar panel on my roof and it's great. I use the rigid panel as the roof to my custom ventilation system. The engineering of all this is custom, unique and works amazing.
what happens when there's no democracy in the work place. Toyota severely missed out the opportunity to put its hybrid drivetrains into their vans. But instead, they were making better profits with diesels clogging our air and kept it that way.
Tom here: Nah! They're not "joining the French" they're making business decisions. Developing a new van platform from scratch is incredibly expensive, sharing and enhancing an existing platform is far more business savvy and keeps the cost down for consumers.
Tom here: I'd agree there's something of a missed opportunity there, but hybrid vehicles are really just a stepping stone. Some companies will step on that stone, others will miss it completely and go straight to electric vehicles. Toyota looks to have the second option in their sights - and good luck to them.
In my business we have 5 hiace vans ranging from 2004 to 2011. Have never let us down. Then Toyota stop making them and partner up with Citron and Peugeot. The vans are rubbish. I know a lot of people who bought these and have endless trouble with them. I moved onto a 2021 transporter and has been in garage twice already for sensor failures Bring back the bullet proof hiace.
Why do the middle passenger need to bump his/her knee into the gear selector thing, when the gear selector is just an electrical switch that might as well be a couple of buttons on the steering wheel or the dash? And why does this van have a rear view mirror, when there is no rear view?
Hi, i have just received my new 72 reg proace city electric. Toyota say there are 2 usb ports, i can only see 1. Do you know where they are located?. Plus i have a rear view mirror on the windscreen, i don’t understand why as it has a sold bulkhead. It is only a reverse screen on the proace city.
electric handbrakes are horrible and not safe either. Absolutely no need for them. Apart from the grille and badges is there any difference to the E-Dispatch/E-Partner?
Got the 2018 diesel version. Ran them as private hires. Nice to drive but I would not advise to run them beyond 100k warranty. After 100k the garage will see much more of the vehicle than you ever will.
Nearly brought one of these, but after pricing up with the top of range diesel, is approx 15k more! plus no one knows what the depreciation is on these e vans
I m always scared that Peugeot and other European brands have little parts inside the Toyota vehicle... European products have more and more of planned obsolescence... The future is a nightmare. Want to buy a Toyota because all parts come from Japan. I would like to dream !
Once locked, Can the back of the van be opened from the inside without using a keyfob? I'm getting a rental that needs to be opened from the front window using an access key, but wondering if I can go in the back for an extended period without locking myself in with the auto lock function the van has after 20 mins of inactivity.
Using this for my daily commute at work. And sadly whit tools. And 65 mph speed limit. It bleeds range massivly. I can whit normal driving get about 160 km. For pure city usage it would be great. But for long range daily use. I deplete the batteries twice a day.
Does the Toyota Electric Van use a hydrogen fuel cell battery or Lithium Battery? Volkwagen will be introducing their electric minibus powered by lithium batteries into the USA market. The billion dollar question is the hydrogen fuel cell battery been eliminated as a power source. Could Toyota be the equivalent of GE (supported alternating current) and Tesla be the equivalent of Tesla who supported direct electric current? Toyota's electric van could preferable to Volkwagen ID Buzz for Van Dwellers based on price, availability of batteries? Thank you for your help.
Once locked, Can the back of the van be opened from the inside without using a keyfob? I'm getting a rental that needs to be opened from the front window using an access key, but wondering if I can go in the back for an extended period without locking myself in with the auto lock function the van has after 20 mins of inactivity.
Been driving electric cars and vans for a long time now. The problem for them all is the lies the manufactures tell on ‘range’. The psa group has already alienated many drivers with their poor longevity and now they are going to over sell their mileage. Only trust reviews when they tell you the real world mileage they got loaded.
The main problem of This car and other which uses PSA 50kwh powetrain is rather huge power consumption compared to competition. Just use Nissan e nv200 40kw range for comparision. It is important for the user because it means longer loading Times and shorter range. To fill up 50kw batter from 230v 2.3kw you need about 21hours. You wrote 7.5h but thats clear error. If you use dc charger on the Road you also need to look for those which provider higher current. Otherwise you Will wait to charge it. There are multpliple reports of shockingly high power consumption of 30kwh with normal ride. I am sorry to inform you but it clearly see you have Little experience dealing with electric cars hence your enthusiastic review. This is a great van but poor electric auto.
Your right he made a typo, he should of put a 6.6kw home charge, which you would get fitted with a government grant anyways through the dealership! That way you would get cheap over night electricity, which if your are doing 12k miles a year would save you about £1,000 a year ib your fuel bill.
8 by 4 is 2438.4mm by 1219.2mm.. This van takes 2512mm by 1258mm. It’s basically exactly 8 by 4 load floor. You could even choose to transport them standing on edge or in a pile.
I’m in America as a mechanic I’ve been waiting for Toyota to make it all electric vehicle we have five Toyotas in our family I don’t like Chevy Ford or dodge Chrysler because they make garbage unreliable. My wife has the model three Tesla but I will not buy one because they don’t allow third-party private mechanics to work on their vehicles or give them support or sell them parts. That’s why I’m waiting for Toyota because they will support third-party and sell parts to the aftermarket repair garages And I have solar and battery bank back up that I billed myself to charge my own electric vehicle
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That’s range in an empty van. Most vans are full of tools and equipment. Fill the van and then see what mileage you get. That is the test we all want to see, not some muppet saying it a lovely van and it quite
Yeah, I have a feeling if I was to fill this with gear and drive a decent distance It's going to drop quite dramatically. How long am going to be waiting to drive home after a day on site... What if I get there and need to hire some extra 2 stroke equipment?
@@1000Bats
We will be waiting some time for that test. They won’t do it because if they do, no one will buy the vans. My van has about 3/4 of a ton of equipment all the time than have to carry heavy parts for different jobs. Think I’ll be waiting a while before I buy an electric van. Or maybe I could pull a battery bank trailer 🤔😀
@@aido6919 too much faff, i'll stick with a vw transporter. If a vans going to let my clients down it comes to a point of diminished return for me.
@@1000Bats And then the sensors failures happened.
Why would they do it on a empty van? Give it to a tradie for 3 weeks and see the review.
This is what you can do in a 24kWh battery van when you put your mind to it!!.. ua-cam.com/video/DztARahbQLY/v-deo.html
Proace would be a great platform for solid state and solar roof around 2025 in the US. When we can get a real world 250 miles with 15 minutes of charge. When we can run the AC while parked overnight for 3 nights , run 1000w of 110v for 2 hours and still drive 30 miles with that same 15 minutes of charge. I heard they will be much cheaper to make than ICE vans soon... so when a base cargo panel EV van like this has an MSRP of under $25k USD.
Tom here: Absolutely - the components of an EV van are so fewer in number than ICE. There's less moving parts. So, maintenance and repairs will be far easier. The future is less expensive in the long run.
@@vanaramauk No doubt, but of course price too often is about what people will pay vs what cost to produce was. Brave are those in the forefront flipping the R&D cost for a competitive advantage. It will sound like sci-fi, but there is so much more at play here than R&D, materials, assembly and complexity.. at some magical point unmanned robotic automation and AI all the way through mining, recycling, assembly and testing will hopefully do more than just reduce cost to market, but will be seen in retail pricing.. sure only competition will force that hand and I'm sure that is where politicians will get their dirty little fingers in the pie with trade restrictions and such.
I have the money set aside for the first EV van with a solar roof (especially a camper van) but car people on youtube rally against solar on van roofs harder than the Israelis giving Muslims equal rights.
I've been driving my small van for 2 years with 320w solar panel on my roof and it's great. I use the rigid panel as the roof to my custom ventilation system. The engineering of all this is custom, unique and works amazing.
Toyota don't make fully electric cars, but are happy to join the French in making Electric Vans. Seems to me Toyota needs new management.
what happens when there's no democracy in the work place.
Toyota severely missed out the opportunity to put its hybrid drivetrains into their vans.
But instead, they were making better profits with diesels clogging our air and kept it that way.
Tom here: Nah! They're not "joining the French" they're making business decisions. Developing a new van platform from scratch is incredibly expensive, sharing and enhancing an existing platform is far more business savvy and keeps the cost down for consumers.
Tom here: I'd agree there's something of a missed opportunity there, but hybrid vehicles are really just a stepping stone. Some companies will step on that stone, others will miss it completely and go straight to electric vehicles. Toyota looks to have the second option in their sights - and good luck to them.
In my business we have 5 hiace vans ranging from 2004 to 2011. Have never let us down. Then Toyota stop making them and partner up with Citron and Peugeot. The vans are rubbish. I know a lot of people who bought these and have endless trouble with them. I moved onto a 2021 transporter and has been in garage twice already for sensor failures
Bring back the bullet proof hiace.
Range? 200
Cost?
That's all we really want to know
2⁰5 miéß 5 moré mikes
Cost? = Ridiculous!
Why do the middle passenger need to bump his/her knee into the gear selector thing, when the gear selector is just an electrical switch that might as well be a couple of buttons on the steering wheel or the dash? And why does this van have a rear view mirror, when there is no rear view?
Hi, i have just received my new 72 reg proace city electric. Toyota say there are 2 usb ports, i can only see 1. Do you know where they are located?. Plus i have a rear view mirror on the windscreen, i don’t understand why as it has a sold bulkhead. It is only a reverse screen on the proace city.
electric handbrakes are horrible and not safe either. Absolutely no need for them. Apart from the grille and badges is there any difference to the E-Dispatch/E-Partner?
Got the 2018 diesel version. Ran them as private hires. Nice to drive but I would not advise to run them beyond 100k warranty. After 100k the garage will see much more of the vehicle than you ever will.
I hope it make it way to USA
Tom here: Not sure what their launch strategy is... but time will tell.
It's nice to see an electric van with a usable range that isn't equipped like an Iranian prison cell.
I'm bemused that there aren't more of them.
Tom here: That van platform is ace. Nice and spacious where it counts and tough as boots too. The range is what makes these vans so compelling.
Isn't it powered by H2 instead ?
Nearly brought one of these, but after pricing up with the top of range diesel, is approx 15k more! plus no one knows what the depreciation is on these e vans
Yup, EVs are ridiculously over priced.
I m always scared that Peugeot and other European brands have little parts inside the Toyota vehicle... European products have more and more of planned obsolescence... The future is a nightmare. Want to buy a Toyota because all parts come from Japan. I would like to dream !
I use one of these for work and love it.. fantastic van
Once locked, Can the back of the van be opened from the inside without using a keyfob? I'm getting a rental that needs to be opened from the front window using an access key, but wondering if I can go in the back for an extended period without locking myself in with the auto lock function the van has after 20 mins of inactivity.
Using this for my daily commute at work. And sadly whit tools. And 65 mph speed limit. It bleeds range massivly. I can whit normal driving get about 160 km. For pure city usage it would be great. But for long range daily use. I deplete the batteries twice a day.
Does the Toyota Electric Van use a hydrogen fuel cell battery or Lithium Battery? Volkwagen will be introducing their electric minibus powered by lithium batteries into the USA market. The billion dollar question is the hydrogen fuel cell battery been eliminated as a power source. Could Toyota be the equivalent of GE (supported alternating current) and Tesla be the equivalent of Tesla who supported direct electric current? Toyota's electric van could preferable to Volkwagen ID Buzz for Van Dwellers based on price, availability of batteries? Thank you for your help.
Once locked, Can the back of the van be opened from the inside without using a keyfob? I'm getting a rental that needs to be opened from the front window using an access key, but wondering if I can go in the back for an extended period without locking myself in with the auto lock function the van has after 20 mins of inactivity.
Hallo, sag mir nicht, ob es eine Auto Hold-Taste hat, ich fahre am 3. Tag, ich kann es nicht verstehen, oder es ist überhaupt nicht vorgesehen?
Toyota sure good but the prices always Exaggerated
Price?????
Tom here: When the lease prices become available, I'll let you know.
From £42k
Well, its cool but its not good looking... cmon
Been driving electric cars and vans for a long time now. The problem for them all is the lies the manufactures tell on ‘range’. The psa group has already alienated many drivers with their poor longevity and now they are going to over sell their mileage. Only trust reviews when they tell you the real world mileage they got loaded.
They are still to expensive though until they cost the same as diesel vans they just ain't a realistic switch for me
Until you calculate TCO. No brainer.
Diesel will get phased out in our lifetime.
I wish they had this in America
Also PSA Group is no more. It’s Stellantis where PSA Group was integrated with Fiat Chrysler Group
What about when stuck in traffic on a dark winter night with the lights and heater on?
The main problem of This car and other which uses PSA 50kwh powetrain is rather huge power consumption compared to competition. Just use Nissan e nv200 40kw range for comparision. It is important for the user because it means longer loading Times and shorter range. To fill up 50kw batter from 230v 2.3kw you need about 21hours. You wrote 7.5h but thats clear error. If you use dc charger on the Road you also need to look for those which provider higher current. Otherwise you Will wait to charge it. There are multpliple reports of shockingly high power consumption of 30kwh with normal ride. I am sorry to inform you but it clearly see you have Little experience dealing with electric cars hence your enthusiastic review. This is a great van but poor electric auto.
Your right he made a typo, he should of put a 6.6kw home charge, which you would get fitted with a government grant anyways through the dealership! That way you would get cheap over night electricity, which if your are doing 12k miles a year would save you about £1,000 a year ib your fuel bill.
Lol….. this electric Toyota is actually bigger than the Nissan nv200 so it’s normal
Definately needs a solar roof to help with range and really all that un-used roof space while you are at work going un used is criminal
Is it avalable in verso passenger & city verso long?
Tom here: As far as I'm aware, it's the panel version first but those versions won't be far behind I'm sure.
@@vanaramauk Thanks tom.
can you carry an 8 by 4 sheet on edge in the back of the van? That is a key requirement for me, thanks
I'm with you!
8 by 4 is 2438.4mm by 1219.2mm..
This van takes 2512mm by 1258mm.
It’s basically exactly 8 by 4 load floor. You could even choose to transport them standing on edge or in a pile.
@@AMacProOwner What about the top of the bulkhead? I’m guessing it will stick out making it difficult to stand sheets on edge.
@@Zamblur you need to angle it left back to right drivers side ,can get 5 3/4 ply in max 15 of n floor of flat
£45,000. Do me a favour! It's a fkn van!
At 0:39 I down voted the video, I wonder why?
Well if you don’t know, why did you do it? 🤷🏻♂️😁
@@vanaramauk Whoosh
Full electric makes no sense unless you can recharge it as quick as it would take to fuel up.
iVE JUST TETSED A VAN WITHIN THE SAME GROUP AND SPEC. THIS REVIEW IS COMPLETE TOSH
I’m in America as a mechanic I’ve been waiting for Toyota to make it all electric vehicle we have five Toyotas in our family I don’t like Chevy Ford or dodge Chrysler because they make garbage unreliable.
My wife has the model three Tesla but I will not buy one because they don’t allow third-party private mechanics to work on their vehicles or give them support or sell them parts.
That’s why I’m waiting for Toyota because they will support third-party and sell parts to the aftermarket repair garages
And I have solar and battery bank back up that I billed myself to charge my own electric vehicle