EN Dr. Ratio response when added w/ Aventurine sounds kinda...
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
- 0:00 | [JP] Dr. Ratio added with Aventurine
0:11 | [CN] Dr. Ratio added with Aventurine
0:22 | [KR] Dr. Ratio added with Aventurine
0:32 | [EN] Dr. Ratio added with Aventurine - Ігри
😂😂Ratio EN feels like he's fed up with Aventurine,well at least Aventurine found a caring friends
He's fed with everyone 😂
For a moment I forgot who he was, not until I heard his EN voice and remembered 😂
He betrayed him
@@nicekill7858 the betrayal was obviously a part of the plan
@nicekill7858 it wasnt a true betrayal though was it
Dr. Ratio is such a tsundere in EN. Guy out there bullying everyone, but bullying Aventurine with care.
He's a special case for Ratio.
I hate everyone, especially you. But I also care deeply for you (secretly).
Wait didnt Ratio betray Aventurine or im wrong?
@@bri...... There is a whole thread explaning it since that is a complicated topic, but I wil try to summarize: Short asnwer No.
Long answer: The birds we see in game are Sunday´s , so Sunday was watching them all the time, resultng in Ratio and Aventurine not being able to communicate very openly. Resulting in mind games - normally you wanna deduct what your opponent thinks you will do, and do the opposite, but since Aventurine and Ratio are allies, the moment Ratio realized what Aventurine s plan is, what he is counting on (on Ratio betraying him), Ratio had to go along with that plan coz otherwise he d ruin Aventurine´s plan(Hence he says "I thought I did what you wanted me to do"). However, once again due to the birds, they couldnt discuss this in detail - leaving a seed of doubt in Aventurine´s mind.....which is why Aventurine smiles once he reads the note from Dr Ratio at the end as it clearly shows Ratio knew his plan all along, which makes his "betrayal" not a betrayal as he did it to serve Aventurine´s plan.
The whole time i thought the bird's were Ratio's....they were blue 😅
And i thought he was keeping a covert eye on Sunday this way.
@@anemonaspritehow did you think that? Not trying to be rude, just genuinely asking.
JP, CN and KR are all "Don't pay attention to me, worry about yourself... or whatever, I don't really care"
EN's just "fuck off brooooo"
EN Ratio just sounds so fed up 😂😂
@@izanasatothat’s how you know he’s good friends with him one moment he’s telling him to piss off and the next he’s giving him a item to lift him up when he’s about to give up
@@darkfox1861 he just sounds like me to my brother when I’ve had enough of his shit for the day 😂. But yeah, I can see that too lol
KR DOES say Fuck off.
Can someone translate his EN lines to more simple english please 😭😭 (english is not my first language help)
English version is really DONE with him and Jp version just like "here we go again" vibes lmaoo
aventurine: *breathes*
dr. ratio: *triggered in four languages*
Only in EN 😅
I feel like en ratio sounds harsh all the time, not just to aventurine. honestly not my fav of all the EN voices.
@@raisha99 tbh i think it makes it really funny that he's constantly mad
"i hate you and i hate the fact i care about you"
Hmm, the more I think about the more I think I'm in a similar situation as Ratio.
lol this is definitely canon to me
@@flowercities officially confirmed by the developers?? No its not. And as long as the developers don't officially confirm that crap . Its not canon
@@milenia117ok no need to dunk on people having headcanons mate..
@@milenia117 bro i speak chinese fluently and some amount of japanese, the interactions in both languages clearly convey this sort of relationship between them. that's also the impression i got from the recent story quest.
that's just me though, you don't have to agree
I remember seeing an interview with Dr. Ratio's English Voice Actor where he described how he would often try to say his voice lines in a softer/kinder/more playful way (because it was hard for him to be so mean) but the director kept pushing him to be meaner.... Listening to the other languages now, I do wonder why the voice director chose to go this hard. Honestly though, I don't hate it. I'm more just curious. The actor is so talented to me that sometimes the really harsh tone/sarcasm makes the scene funnier. Also, given how it's part of his character background that he puts his students in emotional distress with how harsh he is, I wouldn't say it's out of character.... Though, maybe every once in a while, I do think they could benefit from sprinkling in a softer tone (when it comes to how he deals with people he doesn't genuinely hate anyway).
You answered your own question. Dr. Ratio sounds like that cuz it's literally how the character is.
@@CrusesFear Not quite, you're only addressing a fragment of what I said. English is clearly the only language where Dr. Ratio takes that kind of tone like 98% of the time with everyone, whereas the other languages will occasionally show a different side to him a bit more often. You seem to be insinuating that the English Dr. Ratio is the most in character version, which is fine if that's how you interpret him to be, but clearly this Director's vision was different than that of all the other languages in that case. I don't think it's any better or worse, just different, and I wasn't criticizing, stating that it is a curious choice- given that it seems to be a decision that the English director frequently takes, to make various characters sound harsher than they do in all other languages.
@@yuyu2b different cultures have different cadences. like a new yorker yelling at you is just them saying hello. asian countries tend to be more monotone when trying to be a asshole because they instead change the words they use to get the point across its just how their culture works, if we don't speak both languages fluently its best not to compare to deeply as we really don't know. like i know japan has 9 different ways to say "I" based on situation.
i'm sorry but i have to do this
sprinkling
@Imp333 I'm fluent in all 4 languages and I can say for certain even with cultural context, the meaning and intonation for the sentences in the 3 other languages are not as harsh as their English counterpart. "You don't have to worry about me, worry about yourself" is totally different from "SPARE ME from your FALSE CONCERN"
take a shot every time an EN voice line is unnecessarily aggressive... ratio, topaz, seele, etc.
Necessarily*
Please, it's aventurine
@@victorpedrosoceolin3919IDK I feel bad for him after seeing his past in 2.1
@@neurofiedyamato8763 didnt play it yet
@@victorpedrosoceolin3919 it ain't about the character, it's about following the tone of the source material
@@victorpedrosoceolin3919 if in the source material it is not aggresive, then is not necessarily
I just found out on HoYoLAB that Dr. Ratio looks angrier when he shy than his grumpy face in the camera thing. Hoyo actually made him a Tsundere 😂
I found this to LMAO
The way he said “GAMBLER”😭💀
EN Ratio : This cockroach again ??
Damn, they ain't lying whe they say EN sounds brutal
From comments I read that went in deep with the CN translation, CN is equally brutal, it just doesn't show in the tone but rather in the choice of words.
@@keerya4179 it's just in en they went extra with the "false concern" that was not even in the original. kr "shingyeong kkeugo" is kinda equal with cn, jp is surprisingly softer with "shinpai shinakute ii".
@@keerya4179 in CN, it's more like, 'focus on yourself, i have no need your concern/worries'. it's kind of like 'don't trouble yourself over me.' but he says it in a very cold tone. it's much less outwardly mean as the EN version bc nowhere does he accuse aventurine of being fake or pretending to care.
its the same with topass in japanese shes kinda chill and in en shes just so annoyed lmao
Bro everytime eng ratio speaks it feels like im getting scolded😭
We are
They had this same issue with Genshin, except this time it was with Itto and Ayato. They made Ayato sound so damn mean to Itto when in reality Ayato actually enjoyed his company and him as a friend.
Maybe if people keep mentioning it in surveys they will redo the line?
Ayato's "About Itto" line has been redone, likely because of fan feedback. There was a recent event where Ayato was friendly toward Itto too.
They atleast changed the tone of the voice line tho, I guess like Barbra maybe seele voiceline may get an rework to sound nicer?
@@prabhjotbakshi7642 we need barbara to become happy again
@@liandoaethend2403funny enough, I think they changed the en one to sound more like cn. The cn one is much calmer.
Its sad how ratios line with aventurine is dynamic wise pretty far away with english and CN. Ratio telling aventurine he should take care of himself instead of worrying about ratio. While in english he tells him he should stop with the false display of concern. I have no idea why english is so far away with the translations
right? Like i understand sometimes they need to use certain words to make the translation smoother but honestly this kind of thing wouldn't have been too bad to include as the official translation. It's like they don't want to show that ratio is capable of caring for others (which is ironic bc his character story and his actions towards adventurine esp with the thing he gave him show that he cares a whole lot more than he shows)
In this case, though, "just worry about yourself" doesn't mean "don't worry about me and take care of yourself" in Chinese. It means "mind your own business" or "stay in your lane".
@@soaringaegisso it’s essentially just a tone of voice difference in what’s being said
Don’t worry. In my opinion I think they conveyed the context and tone from Chinese to English to the maximum most of the time. For example, "take care of yourself" is simply a literal translation from CN, but actually means "mind your own business." Also "I don’t need your concern" sounds quite harsh and ruthless too, cause "用不着" is an imperious/disdainful way of saying "no need," there is just no such equivalent expression between the two languages, so they rephrased it often. Otherwise, the original tone and meaning could be totally missing like what’s happening now.
On the contrary, I was surprised by how he sounds less aggressive in JP😂
I like how DELICIOUS sounds Ratio's CN voice actor 😍
LMAO Dr Ratio's EN VA is top tier with his witty comments and foxy attitude, Sheesh XD
Honestly I love Ratio’s va but the directions they gave him made their friendship REALLY confusing.
i speak chinese and the cn dub has a completely different tone from the english version, the voices in english definitely sound good, but the direction taken by translation/localization has completely messed with the original meaning of the sentences (and with the relationships between characters). and that is what i'm not very happy about.
the chinese version of the voiceline is more like rivals with a bit of sass? (but still suggesting some level of caring), whilst the english one is like ratio straight up spitting acid at him. which, having played through the story quest, the chinese one definitely seems to convey the sort of relationship they have much better.
both dubs are good, it's just that i think the localization could use a bit of work. yes, ratio can be harsh and arrogant, but the english dub makes him come across as overly so. i think the other dubs (take it with a pinch of salt for the kr and jp as i'm not quite fluent enough to REALLY read tone yet,) are able to walk that fine line to convey his pride and yet still carry that undertone of him actually caring. as compared to making him so off-puttingly brash and haughty.
could just be me though, but that's my impression at least.
Do you use CN sub too? There is one time, when they were in the Pavilion, Ratio called him "Dear Gambler" in EN sub. But someone told me that was mislocalization, CN ver was "Damn Gambler". I'm very confused because "dear" and "damn" have no similar meaning at all.
I'm bilingual too, and I totally agree.
@@akarifuyuki9763In Chinese, "dear" often is meant sarcastically. So "damn gambler" would be an accurate translation.
It can sometimes be said sincerely, but I don't think that's the case here given Dr Ratio's personality.
@@soaringaegis Oh so I'm not wrong. When I read that word in EN, I thought he meant it sarcatically based on his personality. But if you don't know him, it can be mistaken as he said it sincerely. They should use "damn" word for EN. Ok thanks
@@akarifuyuki9763 hahaha then they could have just added like asterisks or quotation marks to the "dear" to make it more obvious tbh, i think the sarcasm is pretty funny
i use english sub since it's my first language, and usually play on japanese dub since i like hearing herta say kuru kuru
I actually don't think he sounds harsh at all, just loud and haughty. And it does fit imo
Playing up the contrast with the other languages by putting on a red tint over the clip just makes it look like the "bad" one
Dr. Razio EN sounds like Professor Snape
I CAN'T
At this point, it’s mostly the EN directors doing their own thing, completely ignoring the intended interactions between various characters. I just don’t get why they want so many characters to have a sense of superiority, or have them constantly looking down on others.
my ((personal)) take is that, even though en ratio gives him more attitude and character, it's a bit off from what's the cn ver intended how ratio feels about aventurine. cn, jp, and kr give me a vibe of someone who's miffed? with aven's gambling but there's an obvious hint that he cares about aven who's careless with his own life, while en ratio is just straight up aggressive (the localization did NOT help too) and feels a bit unnecessarily rude to the point of not wanting to BE around him. i'm guessing this isn't the voice actor's fault at all but rather the direction he was told to do, which was... unfortunate, i guess, because this isn't the first time en voiceovers make characters sound hostile when they're not. i like the en dub in a lot of instances too, like aventurine's, the penacony cast sounds amazing, luofu's (except jingliu, they overdid her), but ratio... idk it's too much.
i read somewhere that ratios en va did try to give variety to his voices like being a little softer and gentle but apparently their director kept pushing him to be more aggressive
2.1 quest spoilers ahead ----
im gonna be honest, i use en dub and i genuinely thought ratio hated aventurine until he opened that letter in the void nihility looking place
i forgot what it said word for word but i did remember that ratio called him "friend" and i was genuinely confused 💀
It’s hard to notice, but if you really focus on the words, you can subtlety notice some hints that show that Dr. Ratio cares. Like he speaks slightly different with Adventurine than with other casts. It’s hard to notice right away, but it’s there. You just have to squint sometimes
i played with CN dub and english sub and can confirm that the writing was what made him seem like an asshole. i wanted to throw him off the screen and i usually like arrogant scholar characters XD
I love how they're frenemies , They remind me of me and my bsf , me and her be bantering and we be yapping and roasting each other but deep down we care for each other
Isn't EN a little bit out of character for someone who told Aventurine to stay alive and wished him the best of luck 😂
nah EN Ratio is a tsundere, he the type to call you an idiot while he write you a sentimental note to never give up :D
I bet that if Aventurine got sick, Ratio d be the type to say "I thought idiots can t get flu..." while he makes him a hot tea.
@@Kunoichi4ever4 That's not how Ratio is supposed to act after betraying someone with self-destructive personality.
I like JP more because Ratio feels apologetic towards Aventurine situation, which only makes sense because Ratio betrayed him nonetheless, even if it was in accord with Aventurine gamble.
Dr Ratio is extremely smart, he knows where he needs to be harsh and where he needs to be kind, when Aventurine was about to sacrifice everything to prove a point, Ratio shows his kind self by wishing Aventurine good luck and giving him an potion of protection against Acheron.
He ain't simple rude guy, Ratio is way more than that and JP knows how to represent it.
@@grimmtherapist lol lmao
@@grimmtherapist Ratio is rough and direct literally always. And this is indeed very much how Ratio is supposed to act after 'betraying' Aventurine, as both knew they were playing along for his gamble, as explained in the story. Ratio caring about Aventurine doesn't change he acts rough to literally everyone. The EN VA is by far the best and closest to how Ratio is as a character.
FYI, he doesn't give Aventurine any kind of potion. That's a receptable for prescriptions (like a doctor would make), and it simply had that 'prescription' which was a message for Aventurine.
@sosukeaizen1475 But you do realize that he didn't actually betray him and he was just doing what Aventurine told him to do as part of his plan, right?
Dr. Ratio be like: "I hate you in every universe"
They just kept reminding me of my two older brothers especially during the quest 😂😂
All the other languages: Keep yourself safe 🥰
English be like: KYS.
EN ratio is funny af
english version is so weird. the other three are like “i don’t need your help, but you *definitely* need all the help you can get” and the english one is more like “how *dare* you treat me with basic human decency! the disrespect!”
I really hope they update this voice line. It just doesn’t make sense, especially after the event. Both of them dance around their genuine feelings in many ways, but it makes no sense for Ratio to act this hostile towards him when the other languages don’t have that same malice. He’s supposed to be making sure Aventurine is alright, not implying Aventurine is being insincere in being concerned for Ratio. It’s a poor translation.
Aventurine got roasted by Ratio... poor gambler 😓
EN makes the ratio even more interesting 😳☺️
God I love EN VA of Dr.Ratio
Dr. Ratio's eng va is right on point man
yang chaoran (aventurine) and sang yuze (ratio) has actually voiced a bl together. do whatever you want with this poece of information
his EN reaction is just a very aggressive "Ew, you have cooties, stay away from me!"
Ratio sounds fed up with Aventurine 😅
The Korean one has a subtle mean undertone as well.
Still stupid for EN to change the dynamics between Seele and Luka for no reason.
JP/CN/KR: “damn he kinda…”
EN: “never mind”
Giving "Get thee behind me, foul fiend!" -Aziraphale
It's so funny because the JP one says gambler in a really rude way and yet sounds so soft
First thing that come into my mind when I heard EN Ratio is Squidward, and I don't even know why 😂😭
well like some people will agree, is not much different as meaning but it does sounds harsher in EN , i wish they put in a different way but well. is still fine, very close to his character and temper and every true aventurine/ratio fan knows whats behind the harsh attitude
I COULDN'T STOP LAUGHING LOL
All the english voices in hoyo games seem to have this thing going on, characters tend to be either unnecessarily loud or harsh even in unlikely scenarios. I play en so I thought he's just always harsh nd hurtful for no reason but turns out its just a language thing.
ratio jp voice is so 😳
okay i do love agro ratio, but seeing how the other ones have him being like 'dont worry about me" is so sweet? especially with the note and the- RATIO PLEASE VERBALIZE AFFECTION IN AN UNDERSTANDABLE WAY
He's indifferent in every language, and then there's English, where he gets ANGY
He is so soft in JP 😅
en ratio turned dumbledore mode
Seriously, these en version of the characters were portraited to be more harsher than him even though he had gone through a lot of shit..😢 All the more reason that I prefer the other languages better..
The VAs are good, but the script and censoring are a bit too... Well, the meaning is there, but the character's personality just bends five ways. (EN)
Why would they care lol? Do they know his backstory?
@@stromtgm3505 you never know, they probably do already but never say anything about it.. I mean there are hints about them caring for him, topaz and ratio specifically..
WHAT? thats exactly WHY i love the en, its harsher. More personality, more intrigue. Who wants stale cookie cutter characters? :v
@@stromtgm3505dumb statement Ofc they do,literally everyone can be their VA if they only need to read the lines🤦♂️staying true to their characters is what makes them a good VA not deviates and botched up to create whole new false personality
Astarion, is that you?
I love whenever I put Ratio back into my team after swapping him out for argenti after a bit of farming he just verbally attacks aventurine like jeez man leave my pookie alone
CN Ratio sounds more ummm soft?
Oh I got an inkling during the story but...they 👀👀👀
All the other languages Ratio is like, "I'm not even here don't look at me we don't know each other okay"
and then EN Ratio is ABSOLUTELY SO DONE WITH HIS SHIT. AVENTURINE BREATHES AND RATIO TELLS HIM TO FVCK OFF 💀
en really said "fuck off"
English version is 4kids version of Seto Kaiba 😶
Every character in EN says something or weird or aggressive
I’m starting to think people that love the other languages don’t know shit about said language cause From the comments I read that went in deep with the CN translation, CN is equally brutal, it just doesn't show in the tone but rather in the choice of words. But because he “sounds” mean in En people have their panties in a twist.
Lmao other ratio bring concern and gentle while english is just straightforward 😂
Ratio in EN is like he alredy have enough of Aventurine
But what if it’s not false concern
Doctor! You’re huuuuge!
To me, jp kr and cn sounds very tsundere and the en one just sounds like Ratio really hates the guy but i love the en voice actor for him. He sounds so sassy 😂
I love them sm
That's some mad kaveh and alhaitham vibes right there
Again with the Kaveh & All-hate-him
The CN Dub Sounds Like Yeah Here We Go Again...Haah, What or Why Is This My Life
back off ratio aventurine is mine. 🤣
We all love our super genius Tsundere
en ratio is so agressive lmao
Aventurine solamente quiere estar con su amorcito 😢
Damn bro went from calm to pure rage
the en performance is so extra 😂😂😂
I actually prefer the EN voices they have more emotion in my opinion, also Dr Ratio is so funny in EN xD
And in battle, his voice lines are straight up mean like:
"ZERO POINTS, NEXT!"
And
"FAIL, GET OUT!"
@@kgpadji2890 yeah i love those xD
A lot of people fail to realize that Ratio cares about people a lot more than he lets on
@@christianw935you can still care about someone a lot while being rough with them.
no need to rush. patience *BREEDS* success!
the HATE in his voice is real a thing
笑晕了怎么英文版听起来教授变小混混了！？？听起来真的很像砂金被路边的小混混威胁啊喂！
Exactly. Is Dr. Ratio harsh in Chinese version?
Definitely
THE JP “GAMBLER” WAS FAR TOO FRUITY MAN
OK I’m not gonna lie, I like the intensity of en dubs but sometimes just like seele with Luka it annoys the fuck out of me how hostile they sound. ONLY to find out that it wasn’t properly traduced to convey the same emotions like in the original language.
EN Ratio sounds like he about to talk shit to Aventurine using the Quadratic Formula
Jeez the arrogance of Dr. Ratio with Adventurine 😂😂
WHY HE SO ANGRY IN ENG ARE THEY TRYING TO SAY SOMETHING-
Cn/original is always the best, they ruin it in localization.
it is true that english localization is more similar in terms of writing to CN dub and dialogues?
@@moonlightmilkyway What do you mean, sorry? 😅
100% dont even why they managed to fck up doing their job so bad
@@prawnhub357 Right. Sometimes (rarely) the localization can actually make dynamics but then there are cases like this where they ruin it. I do not understand how it is so difficult for them to just translate it how it is.
@@asahinamfy Because not everything can be portrayed or said the same in every language?
Other languages: Take care of yourself.. 😒😒
EN: OH MY GOD BROOOOO *dr ratio noises*
Being fair Ratio is extra sassy with everything in the English dub.
YEPP HAHA
The cn ver is the best
JP, KR, CN : don't mind me just keep yourself save
EN : get away from me
EN cannot be honest😂
jp is best
Ratio is one of the character i prefer in EN and this is why lmao
I always play in CN. Ratio's line is like he genuinely cares for him. 😆
EN VA's for Topaz and Dr. Ratio to Aventurine "That's a genuine hate" 😂
I mean, English speakers are pretty dramatic tho....
the CN and KR one both sound like “mind your own business”instead of actually telling him to take care of himself🤔
I have my game with chinese voices, so I get blessed all the time with beautiful voices... but daaamn, that korean voice is smooth and sexy (I really can't listen to english voices for some reason, they just have me feeling weird)
It's like when Bronya tells seele to avoid showing off and misses 3 ult crits in a row at 85cr
LMFAOAOOOAOAOA