Why Betting Tipsters Never Lose | TRUTH EXPOSED
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2020
- Betting tipsters never lose, but do you know why? This explains why tipsters always win, how they make money and why you should think twice before following their betting tips. This business model applies to large betting sites like the Racing Post, OddsChecker and At the Races as well as many smaller social media tipping services.
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2:20 How betting tipsters make money
5:32 How much betting tipsters make
6:30 Why tipsters aren't on your side
7:40 How social media betting tipsters make money
8:18 How much affiliate betting sites are worth
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This video shares the truth behind betting tipsters and why they never actually lose. - Спорт
Do you follow tipsters? Do your freinds? Do them a favour and let them know how it all works...
This peter private 99 tipster thinks he,s the best around watch him on UA-cam if you haven't see what you think ?
Caan,what about tipstr site?
Never ever follow tipsters. Use stats and trade, simple as that. Making more money now trading than ive ever done betting.
@@andibathgate7662 Just had a look. Got the comments turned off... I wonder why? Just another pundit by the looks of it. Probably a nice bloke, never made a penny.
@crazy fast Where and how you place? Shouldnt do that.
No one will ever make a living from betting by relying on others selections
finding a reliable tipster is a lot of work and a looot of parameters have to be fullfiled. That's not because you are unable to do this work properly that you have to generalize like this.
I had 20-30 making a living off my tips for the last 5-6 years. Only recently started to not tip as over the stress of dealing with others money and not just my own. But yes agree while it’s a 0.00001 percent. It happens just need to find the right one.
Wrong.
The problems with "making a living" from betting is that most people use betting as a form of entertainment, are not ruthless/disciplined enough and do not have the wherewithal to survive for a year before withdrawing winnings.
When you start with a fairly small betting bank - you’ve got to compound your winnings instead of withdrawing .
It’s a long term game .
Give it 3 years and STOP LOOKING AT YOUR PROFIT AND LOSS .
I remember back in 2018 I was look for tips for the Grand National and I came across your UA-cam channel. You were saying to look for value instead of who you thought was going to win. I couldn't get me head around this at first, it didn't make any sense. It's sad that so many people are focused on the wrong thing, I feel genuinely sorry for people when I see them walk into a bookie now.
They are entirely, Alex. Very sad. Glad you have learnt otherwise.
You have saved me so much money, I was one of the mugs losing week in week out following tips. This video has made it all make so much sense now.
Yep, I’ve followed a few tipsters and I quickly learnt (after loosing money) that it was a mistake. I find that I’m better off backing my own personal choices.
Some may not be bad, but overall you have to question why they are there doing what they do. Do they really just want to help you?
@@CaanBerryProTrader can you help and name a few not bad tipsters?
@@Streetstylemilan Andrew blair white (horse racing)
I never have and never will follow a tipster. I’ve been placing bets for years and I refuse to give them any money
Great video. I was aware of the affiliation but didn't know they were taking that much.
All these 10 quid to 10k guys seem to use bets that are like 1.25-1.35 too so they have a better chance of going on a streak. Giving it massive Booms when a 1.3 bet comes in!
Noticed a lot of the dodgy Twitter tipsters with no public records are linked too and have the same followers all joining in with the booms to create the impression that have tons of people following their tips when in reality they are more than likely fake accounts made by themselves.
Fantastic work Caan. This message cannot be repeated loudly enough!! It always baffles me how people are willing to back a coin toss at less than evens just because they've been told it will win!
Thanks for the support! You might like our next upload in half hour!
Thanks Caan, great video, Learnt a lot here.
Glad to help!
Great video, really eye-opening (particularly reading the follow up comments too). I've often thought there's something amiss with the world of tipping, given how many tips are hopelessly wrong day in, day out. Know I understand why! Nice one 👍🏻
It's not that they're wrong all the time, its that they send you to poor value which leaves you a loser over the long term while lining their own pocket :)
Another great video. It always amazes me how few people realise this
Hopefully some more now and it will get shared about :) win win for all.
Thanks caan,this video is very helpful
Spot on as always Caan....I tried to warn my mate's about these scams but a couple of them wouldn't listen because they are so addictive 🙈
Maybe this could help? Can't argue with a bit of logic. Good to see you're still chipping away and doing okay :)
@@CaanBerryProTrader not doing much on the betting front nowadays but I'll never forget how much you helped me a few years ago when I went from MB and arbing to trading..top guy 👍
Great video Caan!
Glad you enjoyed it.
Great stuff as usual Caan. It was far more transparent in the old days, when punters had to phone premium phone lines for tips. I had a colleague who'd be on a 50p per minute Tipping Line every morning for 6 or 7 minutes. But to be fair he always used one of the phones in our office workplace, so he was only out of pocket on the tips themselves :o)
I agree, Cliff. Transparency has disapeared somewhat with the internet and all. So many idenities etc too now, dirty business.
Best tip I ever gave my friends don't use tipsters do your own research or better still learn to trade
Trouble with research is; everyone's researching from the same resources... the same resources bookies have (and they have more) and they have a workforce and billions on their side. Doesn't make too much sense does it.
Thanks Caan, brilliant... wish I’d known this years ago!
Haha sorry for the delay!! Better late than never.
Nicely summed up!!!
Thanks!
Good points as ever Caan
Cheers, trying to get the word out to the masses!
Good advice, as ever - thanks
Great video Caan, I’ve always avoided tipsters due to this exact reason! But it’s always good that an expert like you are telling others, you’re someone who people listen too
Thought it would be an intersting topic for many who follow tipsters or have had a bet over the years. Cheers.
Great advice,it’s just so easy to get absorbed into
Yea, lots do. But then its hard to avoid as it is everywhere with sport, the channels, banners, footie shirts the lot.
Great video. Cheers
Good job! Keep it up!
Will do, check the next upload you may like.
Another blockbuster video here Caan. You are quickly becoming the new John McCririck (RIP) with having the punters best interest at heart. Here’s the challenge then: How do we make the exchanges more popular and break down the misconceptions so many mug punters still possess on the matter? Be interesting to see some responses. My suggestion is for a number of bets to be commission free on sign up as a balance against the bookies free bet offers.
Blockbuster... you're too kind. This is a great question. In theory, bookies should be extinct by now... getting the word out is important. Hopefully videos like this are shared about and help.
Great vid 👍
Excellent and well informed 👍🏻
Cheers, we try to make all uploads factual and informative.
Thanks for the video Caan. I have been relying too heavily on tipsters advice on the football. I could never trust myself on backing/laying on the correct team because I'm new to the trading world. I'm now going to do my own thorough research on upcoming games to conclude which is best to work with. Thanks again.
It seems that, picking yourself would be more trustworthy either way!
Really good video Caan. I'm sure so many people are not aware of tipsters win no matter what! I used to follow a few (they are shown in your video) but in the end I was losing more with them, than I lost by myself! I did notice with 1 "tipster" that they would post a few easy winners to get the challenge going, then pick a really quiet game with little action and it would lose. Only when I kept noticing this pattern, did I knock all tipsters on the head. I may not be ready to retire to the Bahamas just yet by going it alone, but my losses since are not anywhere near as much by following others.
Hopefully they will with this one if it reaches enough people! More satisfaction in doing your own work anyway.
This is a great video I followed tipsters as I was losing money doing my own bets but after a while I realised there was no difference in winnings so I think they can really take advantage of people who are losing a lot as they show them that they can win and back it up with “research”
Yes saying they did research seems to be the get out card
Thanks for this video, I have been losing a lot lately. All thanks to you
We definitely need people like you, trying to give us more advantage.Especially on what and not in betting.Theres no such thing as a tipster, horses have good days and bad days,so no advice no matter where it came from,is 100% gauranteed!! Best tip,,,, keep it in your pocket!!!😊
Great vid Caan. So many "tipsters" on twitter these days.
Most of which are keen on hiding their details....
Smart tips from a wise man, love the content bro👏🏻
Appreciate it!
Hiya caan really love you're videos i am in the process of beginning to trade ... but doing as much learning before I step in so I will not get caught in the headlights ... what do you think of the bet trader app produced by andy Todd who by the way has me in stitches with his trading ... so geekstoy or bet trader ? I would appreciate you're advice thanks ... I hate bookies .
Amazing how many Free Tipsters want you to sign up to new Bookmaker Accounts so you may then access their tips, however should you already have an Account they suddendly become chargable , so yes Caan what you say is Gospel, I love a Coffee, but because I use a Mug does not make me one, good Video Caan, as always on point.
How they make their money :). If not they have to charge to make some money...
Years ago when the Alcatel phones used to credit £10 talk time when turned on and off my mate rang the same tipping line multiple times and he was given a different winner every time for same race 😮
I believe you, I had a BT phone that done the same thing. Haha
All the way from the South of Africa we say Danko🤝 ☑️✔️ Thank you ❤️❤️
Good insightful video about the perils of tipsters and affiliates. I agree with you that exchanges offer better value with their odds but as Betfair have the monopoly you cannot always keep track of your bet as they suspend the markets a lot near the end of a fixture. This may have nothing to do with tipsters but I think it pushes people towards conventional bookmakers as it is made easy for them with the opening offers bookmakers offer. I think tipsters take advantage of people who do not want to do the studying.
You can check prices afterwards with timeform - bit.ly/3b66JCV
Brilliant advice Caan. Myself o tend to lay high Taylor's tips in particular. I don't get to see pricewyse that much as I dont want to buy a paper full of adverts and I'm most cases made up untrue unreachred stories
Hugh Taylor is a very popular tipster. I suspect at some point he had some good inside info or something which led him to the position he is... hate to pick on one which is why I mentioned several but the model involved now I don't buy its from researching the same sources everyone else has. Also, if you were giving him inside info, would you carry on doing it when he splurges it over an international tipping page?
Excellent video Caan. So many of the twitter accounts are simply dangerous nowadays. Loads of them are massively down every month but still they keep people strung along with the "booooms" when they fluke a small win, and the "we go again" when they have a stinker. Irresponsible to say the least. Anyway, i'll leave it there.. cheers
Its the lack of accountability. Nobody gets punished for this poor behaviours.
Brilliant video
Sorry for being late. If I really have insider tips, I would make the public bet on the opposite side for obvious reasons
Great video Caan. I know slots casinos use the same model and you get affiliates get a percentage of the losses
Yes, the commission are far higher too
Well done Caan. A suggestion to u would b to highlight the very poor value a customer gets when placing win bets on what are considered to b bad ew races.
Wow ! Thanks for sharing this information, I've been loosing almost everyday for following them
Not anymore I hope.
Nice tips 🔥🔥🔥
Well said
Well said Caan, not only are they gettin a % some get you to pay subscription aswell, win win for the tipsters regardless of outcome!
Some of the paid ones do this yes. Bit like newspapers charging you for access and then spamming you with adverts :D
Very good video great info
Glad you liked it
I'm starting to look at the price movement on horses tipped by some of the more popular tipsters, see if there is a consistent drop in price as the punters pile on that could be exploited to take small profits before the off
Sure, the problem is, by the time the reliable ones release the tip the price is gone (in most cases). As other comments have said, it's questionable if it was ever there sometimes.
I confess in the past I have been guilty of following these tipsters, L15, BMB 10-1000 challenges and all like you say. But even today with the knowledge like you advise in this video I can't help myself following tips. Of late I just use GYTO horse racing and do there NAP and NB daily. Alas as soon as they publish you rarely get the prices they quote. Alas so many sports book sites do not do BOG until the day itself and again varies from 8-10am depending what sports book. I've also noticed a lot of so called tips drifting out. Unsure if GYTO is like all the rest but I enjoy the read ups. I go up and down following there tips so unsure yet if its a decent strategy but seeing as I know nothing about GG's myself and like to watch races if had a bet need something help me pick. I myself used to just pick names I liked.
Be interesting to see if there’s a profitable strategy in laying the losing tipsters picks from the daily NAP’s table. Some of those are as much as 40pts down since the start of the flat season.
The thing is, when you lay you only get to do it at the exchange price. Plus the commission is on total winnings when you do. In most cases you'd still be at a loss. Can't speak for any specific cases as haven't really looked.
NOTINMYARSE ! Yeah I agree mate. Just to clarify I was just hinting at the possibility that it may be possible if you were to use the table as a starting point and then narrowing down selections on your own criteria. I certainly wouldn’t be looking to just lay a 12-1 purely on the basis that someone at the bottom off a NAP table has picked it out.
I think anyone who trades successfully is well aware that just putting money in the market blindly is a recipie for disaster.
The thought had crossed my mind also, but i cant be bothered to follow these tips to lay these selections. I have other strategies that perform better. I have too much knowledge to do somethig tedious like that. Probably a good idea if youre inexperienced and new to it all or short on ideas
@@mrgirthy2111 Sounds intriging a profiteer that wont speak.???? this surley a scam
lol but why would you be reading this with pockets full of cash lol. strategies
knowledge hours of studying sounds profits all day to me when do we start
lol🤠Yeeehaaaw
👏👏👏 sound advice
Nice tip on the short list yesterday 21/Aug "Mountain Rescue" won at 11.00 betfair sp
Cool glad its of use
Can you review South down racing? Great vid
Interesting 👍
Where can I find proper data on market movers as I suspect some of the data provided is also "fixed". Ta.
Do you mean the bookies market movers listings? I think you're right... there's no evidence that they were backed at any of those prices. Exchanges are your only hope for seeing what is backed where.
I always chose my own horses when having a bet.
How do they perform?
Hi Caan, so someone like Andy Holding for example is over 100pts in profit this year. So say following his tips even getting worse odds surely you'd still be in profit for the year?
Who said he's 100pts in profit? Did you get the price recommended on every single one of the selections without fail? This is the point, as lots of other comments have made and people have realised. The prices quoted are like the moon, you can see them, you just can't touch them. Here is a question for you - do you really think OddsChecker is paying any of the tipsters they promote to lose them money? Because if what you say there is true, then that is exactly what they are doing. When someone signs up via their affiliate link and wins money, it's deducted from their affiliate balance that month. So a winning tipster with clickable links will be losing them money, and the bookie money, and you are suggesting the bookie and the platform promoting them is paying a 3rd party to do it? Madness. No offence to any one tipster as it's not a personal thing, it's just explaining the business model for the public. Why shouldn't they know?
Also, who verifies this 100pts profit? Ohh, yes.... the site with the affiliate links getting revenue from the losses.
You're a mine of information and insight
This is why I do bet trains on my own every so often - it’s much more fun when you stick to your own selections and on games which are easy to watch and track rather than betting on Estonian first division matches for example
Not sure I would advise that! Although at least you are doing it through your own intuition.
Also another poor tipster is someone called Peter Private 99 on You Tube he gets a winner every now and then but you will lose overall , as the old Chinese saying goes Even a blind Squirrel will find a nut eventually
I bloody knew it!
Do u give out soccer tips for a fee
Fascinating
These tipsters can arb out free bets on the exchanges after people have paid for their insight. The best tip I heard from a tipster was to get the fav beat, then you have half a chance of making a profit.
You can make money through paid tipsters on social media, mainly found on Twitter. You must be strict with how you select them though.
1. They have a regularly updated public P/L sheet
2. They only/mostly bet morning prices
3. Track their tips separately to see if their P/L sheet is accurate, how easily the price is available and how they perform as BSP (extremely rare to find one profitable at BSP)
4. You will need multiple accounts to be as profitable as them
5. They have a limit to how members, ideally under 250, meaning prices last for more than a couple of minutes and may still be able to bet on the exchange.
I believe most people that follow tipsters do so because they don't want to feel responsible for their loss, it's like "I don't want to be responsable for my own failure (or success?)".
Thats probably a fair comment I hadnt considered.
Agree. In parallel, I do trading, not betting; because when I trade, I "declare my loss or win" in my -window of opportunity-, and with betting, it depends on "others"(binary) to get a win or loss at the end. On both I'm responsible, but in trading you exercise "acceptance of loss/win" everytime.
Hey Caan Berry. Think, it is a grea content, u put out for free. I guess, u "operate" from the uk, since in the EU it isnt possible to use Exchange.
One question besides: Do u have any experience with the soccer market. I mean, is there a realistic possibility to get his lay bet matched, when u layed against a result in a soccer game? Are there anybody, who is so stupid to back results in a soccer game or is it a dead market?
Thanks
This is correct.
Excellent! But accurate
I had a conversation about this with a friend speaking about twe specifically. He swears by them but when can't get his head around them being an affiliate means that they are earning more if you lose. That's why their specials rarely win.
Thanks mate truth is truth I like example why will they give you a nap but they still put more horses in I try to do my own thing my money I do what I do best at the end of the day of course u can't really win every day but u can atleast pick up money more then 4 times a week thats more then 4 times thank you hope everyone takes you serious
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Mind well and truly blown
ReallY? I'm suprised!
Always amazes me how many people follow these affiliate or "pay per tips" guys!
Ye bit mad isnt it. The latter group are more ethical it seems, but even so...
favourites are good for laying against. people at work are always loosing on the tips thinking about playing here the stock market is boring at the moment lol
Hoping For Best Effort
Caan there are years of results on at the races for Hugh Taylor to show his selections are profitable!
And who recorded those results? The site getting the affiliate revenue.
The £10 to £100/1000 I play football challenges on twitter are the biggest joke going , ridiculously low odds. That eventually lose. And the bets are based on Inplay stats on a screen of two teams no one has heard of or could have ever been researched. They will " tip " over 0.5 goals based on the fact one team has had 17 shots when in fact they have no idea how close those shots were. And they are trusting the in play stats from the bookies which could be anything there putting ! Plus the BOOMs nd all the cringe that goes with it when 1/5 winner comes in is embarrassing
Money pump for the signups though buddy. Glad you seen it.
Well done Caan. Genuinely a punters pal. U deserve a bigger platform for your work but turkeys don't vote for xmas
LOL this is true.
Hi! Can you make a video about match selection? How to choose football games to bet or trade? Thankyou :)
We can certianly look into this one for you.
Here’s a good one. The £1000 challenge. Ave odds of 1.6. Fuck putting on £650 on 1.6 as a “bet”
Would love to see a vid on replies you get from the bookies and "tipsters" ;)
I don't. As of making this video, some of those mentioned have blocked me.
I would like to be recommended for a soccer tipster
I think you would have to be a pretty smart cookie to run a successful affiliate business in relation to betting. The competition is unbelievably fierce. As you show here the biggest players in the industry are direct affiliates with bookmakers from racing post, through to Timeform and the main racing channels. If people are daft enough to follow a tipster on Twitter then I’m pretty sure that they aren’t going to be watching Caan Berry. They would be lazy gamblers looking for a quick fix not dedicating their time to this.
That made me laugh and sad at the same time. Cant really argue with that buddy.
Im all for exchanges BUT...
the exchanges also restrict you in a way, of course not by limiting your stake nor anything like that but by premium charges and all that.
And so if you are a profitable bettor they will impose premium charge on you, initially 20% or even 40% : ) and if you are super profitable that will be 60% (betfair)
Premium charge sucks for sure.
In my area, betting tipsters edit details to validate their quest
Not suprising.
are you in Tenerife Caan
Hi Cann,
I’m slowly going through the free material you have made available (thank you) with a view to buying your video course. Understandably, and for numerous reasons, your underlying narrative is anti-bookmaker, with your preference being to trade on Betting Exchanges. However, you must also of had a successful Bookmaker career as you have posted videos mentioning that you’ve had numerous accounts restricted with different Bookmakers because of success.
It seems that the key to your Betting Exchange success has been the ability to back and lay a trades, which enables you to take advantage of various trading strategies (Scalping, Swing, Bet to Lay, Lay to Bet etc) which are not available when dealing with Bookmakers because ‘laying’ is not possible.
As I understand it, this would mean that your Bookmaker success has been down to variants of place betting? If so, I am curious to know why, given your notable Bookmaker success coupled with the benefits of Betting Exchanges, you don’t mention any place betting strategies for exchange betting?
Any response would be gratefully appreciated.
Thanks and keep up the good work !
If you can find value you can make money. Not really going to explain much more regarding winning quick with bookies at this stage.
I don't follow tipsters but if i did , i wouldn't, especially after watching this clip, very good advice offered.
I find with horse racing I make a steady profit throughout the year but it all comes together at cheltenham when I’ve backed antepost and then hedge my bets on the day. Wouldn’t go near any tipsters but I do respect upping the ante with David Jennings and Gavin lynch, I also like cheltmental Facebook page but he doesn’t provide tips just offers an opinion and better information which helps make a better end decision
So you back at value antepost, and hedge out later? Surely they only take small bets antepost from you? Interesting angle.
Caan Berry Pro Trader I don’t stake large amounts per bet but tend to use yankees (£5.50) as the main bet type but has worked really well the last two years & juggle between 4 bookmakers- agree about the tipsters points , for me I’m disciplined but I can easily see how people fall down the slippery slope and tipsters can’t be helping
eye opener
hugh taylor tips are recorded for years on the races site
See other comments. Who recorded them and what was their incentive?
There are reliable tipsters, but they aren't free, also they don't offer cheap subscriptions. And to add a reason why it's not a good idea to have a tipster is you are trusting your money to someone else, unless you are already a profitable bettor with a nice volume in bets and you want to have some extra bets each month with a paid tipster. Personally I don't follow any tipster, most of my bets are in the place market in the exchanges and trading the winner only market, so I have no space for following someone's bets, losing or earning money by your own feels better than losing/earning because of someone else
I take a quick skeg at ATR pre race but don’t click links.
I wouldn’t mind been mates with Hugh Taylor, his tips massively change the market, getting his info 15 minutes before he posts would be a win-lay profit certainty.
And thats the thing... you need to know long before anything is put up. Either way, if you did know, you'd get gubbed pronto.
Now i know......
You're being very generalist here, but I understand why you take that view. It certain is true, the vast majority of tipsters rely on a simple thing, quoting top prices. Often prices that cannot be obtained. Let me give you an example, if you tip every favourite on any days racing, and you were able to 'tip' it at the top price it was available during the day (even just with bookmakers not necessarily the betfair price) and couple it with BOG, you'll make a profit long-term. And a decent profit, probably with my experience I'd guess around 10%. The reasons they give for the selection is totally irrelevant. It's a numbers game. However there ARE successful tipsters, they're few and far between. The normal question is why would they give away their edge as even if they're inevitably banned from bookmakers, they could make money on exchanges like betfair? The answer is because a lot of these gamblers want to off-set their own risk by passing on their knowledge after they've placed their own bets at larger prices. Also, think about it logically. If you knew you were really good at evaluating value, what is to stop you placing large bets on betfair (as large as the market will allow early-on) and then after passing on your bet to the general public, laying off the bets at a lower price, therefore completely eliminating your risk. But again I'm talking of genuinely profitable tipsters who have big followings, and these are admittedly few and far between.
Sure just wanted to share how it works for all that didn't realise. I antiscipate it's a fair few!
@@CaanBerryProTrader oh definitely.
In my 40 or so years gambling on horses never seen such cramped odds 7/5 8/5 9/5 11/5 13/5 greedy bookies working on fractions stopped using bookies and will now only use betfair
Its mad that some of the comments here is people thinking the bookmakers pay these tipsters to LOSE them money.
Very good content of you. I love that you expose the way those tipsters think. I have seen them before and mostly they have some good weeks and bad weeks for the followers but they always have good weeks. It is hateful to say they never lose indeed.
I just think people should be aware of the way they operate. Its all smoke and mirrors.
The people that never lose are the people that are tucked up in bed with bookmakers or casinos.
The introduction of the ''lay bet'' I feel was a massive mistake for the bread & butter gambler, it's extremely easy for a trainer to send a horse out that he or she knows isn't race fit, that horse is then easy for people connected / in the know to then lay it with full confidence it will get beat.
Would you recommend listening to ex jockies about horses?