A BSD Ignoramus Blindly Looks at GhostBSD

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  • Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
  • Today we have a look at Ghost BSD and I get stuck on updating issues. Overall it is a great OS, but it is one that takes a lot of research. I hope to have the time to research the BSD family, because I really want to see the full potential. That being said, have a look for yourself.
    #bsd #ghostbsd #mate
    www.ghostbsd.org/
    00:00 - About BSD
    04:15 - FreeBSD
    06:53 - GhostBSD Intro
    09:22 - Installation Considerations
    11:00 - The Desktop and Preinstalled Software
    12:50 - Update Woes
    18:45 - Installing Software
    22:20 - Update SUCCESS!
    25:35 - Final Thoughts
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 65

  • @isthisrumo
    @isthisrumo 9 місяців тому +14

    Just a small correction: BSD stands for „Berkeley Software Distribution“.

    • @JoeyGarcia
      @JoeyGarcia 4 місяці тому

      There's actually a tone more corrections that can be made. LOL But, he gets an A for effort!

  • @bigmikeobama5314
    @bigmikeobama5314 9 місяців тому +10

    i remember pcBSD, it showed some promise, installed right away on a laptop of the day. its discontinued now, i have installed ghost bsd as well, but the linux community is MUCH bigger and is just so much fun, especially arch and the AUR. the linux community is just too awesome! I love each and every one of you, thanks so much for being a part of this! yet more proof that freedom always produces better results in every way!

  • @boxerfencer
    @boxerfencer 3 місяці тому +4

    The BSD court case didn't birth Linux. It just allowed it to take lead, and develop in the absence of BSD development.

  • @peterjansen4826
    @peterjansen4826 9 місяців тому +12

    I would not state that Linux is based on UNIX, it is modeled after UNIX. The relevant difference is that Linux did not use any of the UNIX-code, so not based on it. But they used similar concepts and syntax while creating Linux and the GNU-utilities.

  • @anonytuser711
    @anonytuser711 9 місяців тому +13

    If Linux ever offended my sensibilities, I would jump to FreeBSD in a heartbeat.

    • @alihassanjatt8898
      @alihassanjatt8898 9 місяців тому +2

      Don't worry Linux going to be follow you their because freebsd port some drivers from Linux

    • @XYZ-xm1ew
      @XYZ-xm1ew 9 місяців тому

      @@alihassanjatt8898 Some:).It doesn't mean all.

    • @alihassanjatt8898
      @alihassanjatt8898 9 місяців тому +2

      @@XYZ-xm1ew it is depended on Linux if upstream spport dropped then those driver are useless for bsd guys

  • @RHTORAS
    @RHTORAS 9 місяців тому +5

    If it is to show bsd you could show nomad bsd too which might be handfull for a bunch of users and feels more complete imho

  • @ericjohnson5990
    @ericjohnson5990 9 місяців тому +6

    I tried Ghost BSD a few years back, but it didn't really work for me. Though I didn't try it on bare metal. That being said, it was one of the best implementations of MATE that I've ever seen!

  • @russellbrooks3622
    @russellbrooks3622 9 місяців тому +5

    Enjoyed that. I've actually never been successful installing any BSD. Always get stuck somewhere. Might have to try this one again.

  • @Tvirus12
    @Tvirus12 7 місяців тому +3

    It feels like the early version of ubuntu , warty warthog era

  • @markhigginson9897
    @markhigginson9897 9 місяців тому +3

    I have used Ghost BSD and tried it as a daily driver for a while. I am not a content creator like yourself, however even for a general use case there are three main problems. DRM enabling is missing from Firefox, Wi-Fi hardware database, and printer hardware database. DRM is important if you watch online streaming services, even free ones. The other problems with Wi-Fi and printers is that the driver databases are very limited. As for general usage case scenario, it is somewhat different than the Linux distros I've used and can take some getting use to. Overall though, notwithstanding these problems I think that Ghost BSD is a good BSD Distro for beginners starting in BSD.

  • @UltimusShadow.
    @UltimusShadow. 9 місяців тому +4

    Fun look at GhostBSD Tom👍🏻, I'm thinking of trying FreeBSD on a 2nd SSD inside my Debian 13 Workstation. Do I need to...no...why...because why not I'm a geek. It would be nice to be proficient in BSD also for reasons.

    • @classicrockonly
      @classicrockonly 9 місяців тому +2

      I felt the same way and became a BSD nut. I still use Linux. The biggest thing I found was using FreeBSD and OpenBSD helped me generally understand computer operating systems more than Linux did. And it has helped me quite a bit in my Linux sysadmin work

  • @zordanxxx
    @zordanxxx 9 місяців тому +3

    I'm Arch, I get same problem with updates or when I install many programs at once, do I do one or two at a time, I never seen s ship package.

  • @OldieBugger
    @OldieBugger 9 місяців тому +8

    Sorry to mention this but Linux is NOT based on anything, it's one guy's hobby project to make something more or less UNIX-like kernel at his home, for his own computer. After he published the kernel, the GNU people started fairly soon to use it with their part of an UNIX-like OS.

    • @MichaelWilliams-lr4mb
      @MichaelWilliams-lr4mb 9 місяців тому +1

      Exactly what I was thinking.

    • @JoeyGarcia
      @JoeyGarcia 4 місяці тому +1

      I actually came back and say the same thing! To add more context, Linux is not based on Unix (as you mentioned). Unlike BSD, Linux never had any of the original AT&T source code in it. BSD still has some files that are from AT&T Unix. This was verified by a FreeBSD developer. Linux is a CLONE of Unix. That's why it completely does its own thing.

  • @josmoify
    @josmoify 9 місяців тому +5

    nice backdrop .

  • @Aoitori365
    @Aoitori365 9 місяців тому +4

    bsd is also the base for the playstation os

  • @TrustJesusToday
    @TrustJesusToday 9 місяців тому +7

    With the large numbers of Linux distros competing for attention, I wonder if some of this coding talent would make the move to developing FreeBSD distros. I'd love to see stable BSD distros that would compete with Linux just for fun. In the meantime, Linux does the job surpassing all expectations. Debian 12 KDE is awesome.

    • @classicrockonly
      @classicrockonly 9 місяців тому +9

      I would discourage fragmentation in the BSD world. You don’t need tons of flavors of FreeBSD. Having one like GhostBSD or vanilla FreeBSD with an alternate desktop installer is all you need really

    • @ToranK
      @ToranK 8 місяців тому

      Debian KDE has a very high memory usage of 2 GB on my PC. But xcfe Debian is superclass.

    • @ngtube9
      @ngtube9 2 місяці тому

      For me as I like *BSD very much - I am happy to have so few distros of BSD... I dislike the number of distros in Linux... And I dislike the different approaches. One system, one way... That is the best...

  • @dezmondwhitney1208
    @dezmondwhitney1208 9 місяців тому +3

    A great idea to look at BSD.

  • @setoman1
    @setoman1 Місяць тому +1

    Aww maan, you missed the perfect opportunity to say:
    I hope you enjoy switching to Unix~

  • @janedagger
    @janedagger 21 день тому +1

    Just installed it on my Thinkpad T450 and its running like a panther. I've played rudimentarily with FreeBSD for many years on and off... and love it. This is my favorite so far this time. Its fast, and its NOT Linux which makes me very happy. Its Unix-like, but more Unix than Linux. ANd all those distros with Linux have just irritated me... plus, there's nothing like ports. CD to the dir of the program you want to install, in the terminal, and type.. 'make install clean' ... and it does it all. Beats Linux by miles.

  • @symbioid
    @symbioid 19 днів тому +1

    If you type "libreoffice" in quotes, would it give you the actual software instead of the full list including plugins?

  • @Jazzynupe1911
    @Jazzynupe1911 6 місяців тому

    @17:17
    I had upgrade issues in the past and the maintainers mentioned that they intended for you to do full package updates instead of partial (like your command) the partial is from the core FreeBSD os.
    So you should be doing: sudo pkg upgrade -f
    That will handle upgrades like the GUI does.

  • @rayzer1981
    @rayzer1981 9 місяців тому +2

    i had a choice between linux and pcbsd back in the day and found linux a bit more compatible all round. tried ghost a while back and it wasnt bad either, not sure if id run it as a daily os because i havent dug into it deep enough.

  • @luciusirving5926
    @luciusirving5926 2 місяці тому +2

    If it's alt-tech, then I will install Ghost BSD on my PC.

  • @zardozungadonkbungabonga
    @zardozungadonkbungabonga 9 місяців тому +1

    I want to thank you and It's Foss for alerting me to Redhat and Ubuntu shenanigans. I am now testing MX Linux Debian and am probably going to use it and Linux Mint Debian.

    • @classicrockonly
      @classicrockonly 9 місяців тому +1

      I just started using MX Linux a few weeks ago and have been extremely happy with it so far

  • @jmdennis1967
    @jmdennis1967 4 місяці тому +1

    I like this but lately they do not seem to have the American download anymore. I used to really like PCBSD and DesktopBSD when they were out but like most they stopped making these so for me GhostBSD is one of the best BSD that I have tried.

  • @ToranK
    @ToranK 8 місяців тому +2

    Used PCBSD before, but Ghost does not recognise my wifi...

  • @willlockler9433
    @willlockler9433 3 місяці тому +1

    BSD has always been great for servers on hardware. GUI has always lagged. Havent used BSD for 20 years. Might give Ghost a try.

    • @ngtube9
      @ngtube9 2 місяці тому

      why only great for servers? I am administring servers on FreeBSD and use it on PCs and laptops... It is fine 🙂

  • @TheAtariSan
    @TheAtariSan 9 місяців тому +1

    You should try that Chimera Linux or Chimera OS, cannot remember which one's which, but of them is a gaming distros (not the one you want) but the other's a Linux kernel but using BSD toolset instead of GNU or Busybox.

    • @yyutopian
      @yyutopian 3 місяці тому

      Chimera-Linux is the one with the BSD toolset while ChimeraOS is the gaming one.

  • @CommodoreFan64
    @CommodoreFan64 9 місяців тому +6

    I like the idea of BSD, but as a gamer that runs STEAM, I don't think I'll be switching from Manjaro, and Solus anytime soon if it can't even update correctly.

    • @classicrockonly
      @classicrockonly 9 місяців тому +5

      I totally get that. That’s why I have MX Linux. Play some games and get my work done on OpenBSD

    • @MichaelWilliams-lr4mb
      @MichaelWilliams-lr4mb 9 місяців тому +4

      I don't think BSD has Steam available anyway. I know Linux programs will often work in BSD, but I don't think the support for gaming on BSD is quite as good.

    • @classicrockonly
      @classicrockonly 9 місяців тому +1

      @@MichaelWilliams-lr4mb FreeBSD does a little cheat with its Linux containers so some stuff has worked I’ve heard. A few years ago OpenBSD ripped out all Linux compatibility. NetBSD has some Linux compatibility I believe in a similar way to FreeBSD but with a chroot

    • @librequestpodcast
      @librequestpodcast 8 місяців тому +1

      FreeBSD has linux-steam-utils and Suyimazu. It games well.

    • @luciusirving5926
      @luciusirving5926 2 місяці тому

      I prefer emulation to Steam.
      My girlfriend had issues with Steam before, having no alt-tech experience whatsoever.

  • @electricalbatross5797
    @electricalbatross5797 9 місяців тому +2

    Never used freeBSD, but I have used paidBSOD

  • @Aoitori365
    @Aoitori365 9 місяців тому +2

    Linux on the shortbus

  • @XYZ-xm1ew
    @XYZ-xm1ew 9 місяців тому

    BSD and that familly of oses will never be good for everybody.A lot of drivers are missing ,and mamy time it's impossible to install that systems on mamy handware (in spite of Linux).I can't install BSD on my laptop.The screen isn't supported so I can't see anyrhing in instalation program.Available setup parrameters doesn't help :)

  • @pepeshopping
    @pepeshopping 9 місяців тому +5

    NO!
    Linux is not based on Unix/BSD!
    Linus is a KERNEL that IMPLEMENTS similar features as Unix, but in its OWN way.
    Linux then uses the GNU shell, compilers, tools and code, which mimics the Unix/BSD world!

    • @kpcraftster6580
      @kpcraftster6580 9 місяців тому +3

      GNU is called GNU because it _is_ Unix but they wanted to differentiate themselves for fear of litigation...

    • @arampak
      @arampak 5 місяців тому +1

      @@kpcraftster6580 GNU stands for "GNU is NOT Unix". So it's not, actually. Even more, GNU has never had a Unix kernel, so technically you can't run GNU as an OS. It's a set of tools that might make an OS that runs on a hardware and provides implements the standard C library to act and behave similar to Unix.

    • @kpcraftster6580
      @kpcraftster6580 5 місяців тому

      @@arampak GNU is called "GNU is NOT Unix" because it actually _is_ Unix but they didn't want to risk getting sued.
      A Unix-like OS requires two things:
      1) A Unix-compatible kernel that can be a monolithic (like Linux which together with GNU makes GNU/Linux), a network of micro kernels (like Mach which together with GNU make GNU/Hurd) or anything really so long as it is a kernel that is compatible with:
      2) Unix, a Unix-clone or a Unix-derivative userland (e.g. Unix, GNU, Posix).
      The confusion occurs because of the choice of names, for example Minix sounds like Unix and Posix, and XNU ("X is Not Unix") sounds like GNU, but both are actually kernels rather than userlands or OSs...

    • @JoeyGarcia
      @JoeyGarcia 4 місяці тому

      Fact! Linux is not based and/or is not a descendant of Unix. It's a work-a-like or clone.

  • @rodfer5406
    @rodfer5406 4 місяці тому +2

    Hmm. Linux is not as well curated… somewhat of the new “Microsoft Windows”…