A LITTLE SOUTH BEND LATHE FOLLOWED ME HOME tubalcain - mrpete222
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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Join me on this roadtrip where yet another south bend lathe follows me home. This time, a little 9" SB benchtop model A.
This is the "last" lathe I will ever buy.
I have over 950 machine shop videos. Search "tubalcain" and see what I mean.
Bald Eagles - A recovery success. They made their way down the Mississippi to St Louis, then back up the Illinois river and now into the Fox River. Seen many of them especially in winter near the dams. Wonderful.
+cemx86 yes-I have seen them over my yard
As someone who very recently purchased a South Bend 9a of my own as my first lathe, I am beyond excited to see what you do with this!
+deemstyle then keep watching
+mrpete222 You've had me hooked for years now. No question I'm sticking around!
lol, I've had that happen to me but not a lathe but almost that too. You were in my neighborhood as I recognized the building right away. Otto Engineering is doing a great job restoring those old buildings. It's too bad but we have lost many little machine shops around here.
Good show,
Lee
+Lee Waterman Nice old bldgs
I have a Hercus Model A, made here in Adelaide, Australia, that is almost identical to this Southbend. Hercus built these lathes under licence to Southbend and continued with various models until the late 60's. Mine was built in 1949, so it is a year younger than me. Stil gets used a lot.
I have the same lathe, I'm excited to see you bring one home, and I look forward to seeing more of it as it gets cleaned up and put to use.
+johnp256 you shall
It's a beauty. I have a 9 inch too made in 1934. I look forward to the restore videos. I need to do some tuning up on mine.
+MrHevyshevy Thanks
Wow! That's the same lathe I have, except mine does not have the power cross feed. Also, wish it had a longer bed and larger spindle bore diameter, but it is what it is. Got it cleaned up and have been using it for a couple of years now with no problems.
Great find. I wish more would follow me home.
+Edmund Matthews Thanks you for watching-yep-nice lathes
Congratulations on the new addition to the family! Looking forward to many videos on it in the future.
+MrGoosePit Thanks
Funny,when I go on a road trip,lathes don't follow me home.LOL.Nice lathe and road trip.
+Patrick Craig luck of the Swedish
Nice find sir!!! It couldn't go to a better home!
+MrBen527 Thanks
Excellent another lathe saved from the scrap pile. A good solid small lathe that will still do many hours work. My own Boxford lathe model A is a clone of that basic model. Mine has the underdrive motor in the cabinet. I look forward to a series on the clean up overhaul and of course the first chips coming off of it. regards from the UK
+Gary C Thanks
Mr. Pete, I just wanted to share that I own a 4 1/2' 9A S/N 5151NRA8 that I purchased the "Build Card" from Grizzly on. It was built on 9/8/1947. I have owned it since 1993, and about 2 years ago, I took it totally apart and "restored" it with new parts where necessary.
+Gary Jones nice job
Well I'll be damned! I picked up a 9" SB myself on the 25th (last Thursday) - it followed me home too!
+Alan Long Nice find!! THANKS FOR WATCHING
Wonderful! I know how it goes - that's the "last" lathe you will ever buy until the time comes you find the "next" lathe you will buy! :)
I have reached that point with 1980's General Motors cars. I have solemnly sworn NO MORE. Then one of my good friends buys me a 1980 Oldsmobile for my birthday this year!
I'm sure you'll have this one in full fighting form in no time!
+davida1hiwaaynet yep
That Jetstar is the most attractive tractor I've ever seen...love the lines on it.
+dale pratt thank you
Wonderful, Mr Pete! Reminds me of the 9-inche South bend lathe I constantly used in High School shop class in the mid 1970's
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Love the old red brick buildings that were around the town you drove through. Not many around here where I live and they don't build them anymore. Probably to expensive because of labor.
I worked on many South Bend lathes in the Air Force machine shops, the last one was manufactured in 1963 but still used the leather belting. I was the only one in the shop that knew how to stitch the new belt together when the old one had to be replaced. That held until I could locate some clipper hooks and lacing. I hated it when the Shop Chief decided to turn it in, it was one of the most accurate lathes in the shop at that time and it was great for smaller work.
We got a newer S/B lathe in from another base that was closing the late 80s. It was a new lathe that was sitting in storage, but something in the gear train locked up during a break in procedure. That scraped it as the warranty was out and was to expensive to repair.
Now the Air Force is replacing a lot of equipment with CNC machines.
+EIBBOR2654 Yes-nice brick
Good story about your service job
Thanks for the video Mr Pete, I have the same model A lathe but made here in Adelaide Australia by a company called Hercus. Same flat belt drive and "Norton gearbox. Made in 1954. It has a flame hardened bed and the Metric chart on the gear cover. Have turned threads in Imperial as well as metric. I had a friend who managed a heavy machine shop regrind all the ways for me to bring it back to original condition. I did a complete strip down and repair where necessary when the ways were reground. I was lucky enough to have the complete collets and drawbar but had to find the travelling and fixed steady. It has no drive gear guard either but have never had a problem with that in the last 20 years or so. Take care and stay well. Gerry
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Another great video and find. Being retired now as you are I bet you have been asked the question a lot like I have been, "But what do you do now with all your spare time since your retired, aren't you bored?" Ha! what a joke. Don't know how I got as much done when I was working and I'm busier now. I too have many things follow me home and enjoy every bit of it. Thanks for all the time you put into your videos.
+Eddie Kawecki I don't understand people who say they are bored
My first and thus far only lathe is a 10k model B with a 3ft bed. Nifty little machine that does everything I need and fits in my space constraints. Mine was missing the thread dial as well when I got it. The vintage thread dials are pricey but grizzly makes a new production that's easily adapted.
+nova3930 Good to know-thanks
this excites me. I've got one of those and can't wait to see the projects you do.
+secondplace Thanks
Lyle Grandchildren grow up so quickly, don't they ? It took a while to pin down where you were when you picked up the lathe, but the " Batavia Creamery " signage finally gave it away. I knew the Fermi laboratory was somewhere in this area, but I just realised it's very close to the Batavia city centre. I had it on my list of places to visit in outer Chicago, but I never made it there. Ever been there ? Could those industrial buildings you showed have once been a furniture factory ? Thanks for taking us along for the ride. I very much enjoy seeing areas of rural Illinois and the many smaller towns I missed on my road trips in 2010. Kind regards.
+Stephen Smith a windmill factory. Warrenville for fermi
Sad to see a machine shop die. RIP in peace.
+titaniumdiveknife yes
Mr. Pete, What a really nice little lathe I am looking forward to seeing you getting it ship shape and how you like to go about it in "The Right Way". It excites me a bit because it does not take up much room at all. I remember your tour of Grizzly very well my attention firmly fixated on all of those fine machines. I was hoping they would give you a nice one at a discount or free for promoting it. I do not seem to remember you getting one yet remember the man you met and visited. I want to rescue a machine or two and learn how to do it right finding the machines at a affordable price. Good buy Mr. Pete.
+Lew Sou Thanks for watching-its a nice machine--hope to fix it up , but no paint
Sir I am interested in buying some manual machines as I would like to piddle for myself and I have ideas and things I want to invent or make something better. I have always been this way and have made things for companies which fixed a problem in making a product. I want machines and would not mind them less expensive and fixed up by me and any book or watching things on Utube. My question sir is what kind of paint should we ideally use on such older machines and how to prime or prep them?
Thank You for your videos they are the very best of everyone's to me. You also work much harder and deliver content and skill in a very pleasant manner. Clearly you are a pro-all the way.
+Lew Sou I do not like painting. You can no longer buy good oil base machine enamel. I always used rustoleum -navy gray. But the SOUTH BEND color is an off gray (very pretty) not sure where to get it.
Fellow on Ebay has some nice kits containing all the new felts and gaskets etc for doing an overhaul or serious clean up of this model. Thanks for taking us along!
+j hefflinger I saw them
A 9" lathe is a handy size for small work... one advantage of living in the Mid-West is all of the old manufacturing sites per capita... sad to see the shops close down, but you can get some nice bargains on machines and tooling...
+chemech Thanks
A keeper for sure. Used one like that in school. Thank you for sharing
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Well this must be fate knocking me over the head lol. I am looking at buying very same lathe here locally, but have been on the fence. If it's Mr. Pete approved, I think it will be fine. Now I know what I'm doing today lol!
+Tater79bj Get it
Wow, brings back memories. Im from Elgin originally
+Daddy Ski87 Thanks you for watching
Nice score Mr. Pete! I look forward to seeing it in action in future videos!
+ShysterLawyer Thanks for watching
What a cool little lathe. I used to live in Algonquin Ill ( rite on the Fox River on north river road ) I caught alot of fish in that river.
+Sammy Russell Me too--at Ottawa
Wow, i used one of these old girls when i was in school 61 years ago... Thanks
Not Fair!! Here I am having to hunt like H for a lathe (I now have a couple though) and they just fall into your lap! Good reason to be living in the Industrial East and not west.
Also just love the Architecture of the area and it was a nice setting next to the river. The East part of North America has beautiful old brick buildings here in the west where I live we seldom see brick mostly wood buildings with some sort of siding. Nice video
Thank You Rod
+Newmachinist it was beautiful
I .the same lathe only longer, it didn't have a belt guard ether, I cant wait to see you use it.
+George Hoffman They must not have been sold with a gaurd
MY God is so allsome. I just hade the same problem in Aug 2022. A LITTLE SOUTH BEND LATHE FOLLOWED ME HOME!
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Model A's did not have a gear change chart on the gear cover, I have a 1947 with a 4 1/2 foot bed there great little lathes, mine was originally sold through the Star Machinery Co here in Seattle
+David Haxton I see. They must have had the rivet holes for all models
Hi Tubalcain . I'm a big fan. A couple years ago, inspired by your videos, I picked up a real nice 1947 9a .Only slight wear (ridge) is on the tailstock v way. I'm hoping you do a video/videos showing a renovation or restoration of this machine ? Also, it would be helpful if you could focus a little more on lathe wear and what to look for in terms of wear on the ways an how much is acceptable and when there is too much?...thanks for your good work.
+ed flower Thanks you for watching--hope to clean it up a bit
Isn't that Carpenterville Illinois. It certainly looks like it. I lived in Elgin, Illinois just south of that community from 59'--2005. That entire area along the river was industrial and unfortunately like a lot of other similar communities has seem the end of an era.
I have a SB 9' Toolroom model like that one you just got..great lathe.
+ib golfr Batavia
Looks like a nice lathe and clean-up project. On my 12" Atlas, I'm thinking of disconnecting the motor from the lathe and mounting to my table to see if that helps with some of the vibration I see when it is running.
+ILGopher I think you will still get vibe if its on the tabler. I'd to put the motor in another room--on my Atlas' to get rid of it.
I used a Cincinnati mill like that when I was in HS Machine Shop. Looks at some vintage pictures of the lathe, and they don't show a guard over the large gear. I do think it needs one though. Would like to have one that size to go with my 13x40. Good video, of a nice lathe.
My fav lathe!
I have a very similar one that i'm about to start re-furbishing! Please make lots of vids on how to do it. I'm so scared i'll mess something up. Now you have the fate of two resting in your hands. :)
+balisticsquirel I shall
Mr. Pete i enjoy all your videos and today i got my wish in the way of a 9" by 36" southbend. catolog # 80-yb it was given to me. It is dirty so i plan to clean it up and start learning how to run it. My dream come true!!! I need to buy your video course in the near future. Happy Happy Happy.
Nice little lathe o nothing better than gas station coffee doesn't the Windy City have a Starbucks anywhere sure would like to buy that thread dial
nice buy...good rescue...thanks again videos
+Miguel Castaneda Thanks you for watching
That's like my 1929 south bend 9x20 but of course without the quick change gearbox
+Paul Johnson yes
The old industrial sites along the Fox River (major transportation highway during the 1800's) have either been town down in Elgin, IL or have been beautifully rejuvenated in ("Old downtown") Carpentersville, IL done by Otto Engineering.
+cemx86 I was thinking the same thing.
+cemx86 Yes-it was awesome
How about a video series on the cleanup. It would be nice to know what is needed to get these old gems up and running proper and what to lookout for.
+Make Stuff Learn Stuff maybe
Did my apprenticeship on one of little short bed laths and it was a very good lath ! OOPS noticed your comment "last lath i will ever buy" Think not if one shows up at great price and good shape !
+John Brookbank Thanks
I want to be the "fly" on the wall, when he tries to explain to the Mrs. Honey, it, it just followed me home. Its so cute, I think I'll keep it. That will fly like a lead balloon.
+Stanwood Dave Reading these comments just further stumps me the way some men cower under their wives; your spouse is your partner in life, not your mommy.
As long as your purchase doesn't cripple the household budget the both of you should be able to purchase whatever without asking for "permission."
+ShysterLawyer Thanks for saying that!! THANKS FOR WATCHING
I have that same lathe although mine is a Sheraton brand. it's a direct copy made in Melbourne Australia. it's roughly 3 times as old as I am.
+Glenn van den Berg Nice-have never seen one
I'm happy that the one I just got it is in a better shape than yours and with a lot of tooling even with a milling attachment and the best part very cheap
Yes, I sold that one
My 9 inch SB model A came with a cast iron belt guard. No screen or mesh or any openings. Lathe dates to the 50's.
You shoukd have taken one of the larger lathes :) They look pretty fun too. Just out of curiousity, as they say that a lathe is the only machine that can replicate itself, 1) Have you thought of making a series on how to make a lathe from a lathe? 2) How would you cut a gear on a lathe?
+May the Schwarz be with you He has done this already (gear-cutting, that is)-do some digging and you will find all you need to know.
+Gregor Kropotkin I have seen him do it on a mill but I don't think he has done it on a lathe
+May the Schwarz be with you You need a special index head to do it on a lathe
While you can't have too many lathes it it were possible I think you would be approaching that number. Nice little find.
+David Queen yes
@mrpete222, I just watched this video and am curious, whereabouts do you live? I grew up in that neck of the woods, my parents still live in Libertyville, about a half hour east and south of Fox Lake.
Thank you for such a marvelous channel! I picked up a 1942 SB 10R "Heavy", not the 10L but you take what you can get. It's worn about as bad as this 9 (I watched all your other installments about this rig, it gives me hope), it came with zero tooling, not even a compound. I got that, and am still saving up for other stuff- plates, chucks, tooling, centers, etc. I'm just going to get it clean and lubed following your guidance and see how it cuts. Keep teaching! Regards from southern MO!
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Glade to see you rescue these old machines. Hope your grandson will appreciate them as much as you do one day. Yes, it is sad to see these shops closing.
+Michael Myrick Me too
thank you for your replay your vids are great
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Love your Videos MrPete. Since this is going to be the last lathe you buy (right!), would you mind doing a video of how to assess the state of a used lathe _before_ tearing it down? Doesn't have to be a compleat treatis, even a short overview of what to look for and how to check/measure the condition of a lathe. The reason I ask is that I recently found a Myford ML7 (they are pretty rare here in Switzerland). The lathe seems to be in good condition, the ways and spindle seem to be unworn, as far as I have measured, but I am nor sure if I am measuring correctly. I don't mind tearing it down and rebuilding, but don't see the point if it doesn't really need it.
+Andrew Waugh I hope to to cover that.
Mr. Pete, I believe that S/N 18475NRA9 would have been manufactured between September and November 1949Gary from N.W. Arkansas
+Gary Jones thanks
How many times can you use the old "it followed me home!" excuse with the Mrs before she chases you out the door with a broom? :-)
+JRoque250 She does not care
Such a nice size lathe for a home hobby shop. Wish I could find one
Great item Mr. Pete. Got me looking for one now..
+Terry Baker Thanks
Nice find! Help me here... where you pointed out the thread dial was missing, isn't where the thread dial "is". (?) Thanks for sharing.
+1musicsearcher No-I said thread chart
+mrpete222 Actually, you did say dial...but we knew what you meant.
Allot like my 10K A. I have a similar back motor drive which tilts to tighten the flat belt and YES mine has a guard. 48 inch bed on min.....likely mine is 50s. Think your unit is older. Looking forward to seeing the clean up.
One question: My gear guard does not line up well on the lathe and not sure how it go out of alignment. The hole is not concentric with the spindle. Unit was dad's for years and years.
I would have had to let it follow me home too.
Thanks for posting and hope you intend to make a series of it!
Jim
+phooesnax Maybe its the wrong gaurd
Well since it originally came from a school I guess it is possible. I read someplace that the pivots on these are in babbit but not sure that is correct. Excited to see a SB rescue.
Last one??? Oh, ah ha last one, yes................ What a beauty it is! :o)
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+Opinionator52 Thanks
"Last lathe". That's funny.
+71nortcomm 71nort lol
I'm glad you bought another lathe. I hope I can get one myself soon. Can you do a video and talk a bit about Hardinge lathes? I don't know much about them. Thanks
+Randy Hendrick I only have that little hardinge & no one seems interested
Where does he find all of these used lathes and other machinery?
To most this might be a dumb question but what’s the difference between a 9 inch and a 4 1/2 inch?
Trading my craftsman 6” lathe craftsman drill press for a southbend 9” lath tomorrow hope it turns out to be good trade
6” was fine for plastics but a little too small for some of my metal projects
The craftsman 6” served me well for 25 years but i was afraid something was going to break and after looking for a M-6 main gear for years which was getting really worn figured it was time to get rid of the whole thing
Sounds like a wise move
Hey professor would you please educate me where I should look for a use workable South Bend 9 or 10 bench top so I can work on my garage. I thank you and wish a good day, keep on turning.
I know Batavia well also, I graduated from East Aurora HS and Aurora College which is just south of Batavia.
+ib golfr My son lives in N AURORA
+mrpete222 small world. I love your site....
That shop looks like it went idle in the 80's or something. They're not rusty, and that is Illinois. An idle machine can look that good here in AZ with how dry it is, but in the Mid-West .... When did that shop go idle? I can't imagine a shop staying profitable with those old beasts past the 90's at most.
+Andrew Tubbiolo 2 yrs--they kept the heat on
WOW. What was the name of the shop? I'd love to look them up.
Could you do a video on the feed controls on SB lathes? I just got a 13 inch lathe (no idea what model) and would like to know exactly how to use the power cross feed and such.
Search his UA-cam page. It's all in there.
+rkshireygames Yes-do a search
mrpete222 I have probably searched for an hour and not found anything. The search continues.
Nice lathe
+Scott Tyndall thanks
If you were addicted to hammers like Tom Lipton storing them would be no problem. But being addicted to lathes is going to require you to find a warehouse pretty soon.
+mrpete222 LOL I thought you might.
I wish I had your luck in finding a lathe .
+Robert Perrigo keep looking
Hey there brother. I have just started learning how to properly use and run this type of equipment i inherited a south bend but it is missing some partsod the belt tensioning system .so i was wondering if you could let me know is it just a turnbuckle that connects the tensioner handle to the motor. Any help with this question would be greatly appreciated
glad to see another lathe didn't make its way to china mr pete thanks. check out ox tool site and watch wilton baby bullet vise no#8 maybe a good video to make on that subject thanks again mr pete
+Joe Pritchett will do-Thanks for watching
Looks like a great purchase. How many do you have now?
+Ernie Noa too many
That kind of stuff is hard to find in this part of Ga.
+Charles Dyer industrial north--used to be anyway
Nice , last one, sure, I believe you!
+howder1951 Thanks
Lyle looks like you were in Batavia IL. Wish you have stopped by my shop on your way in or out (as I am 9 Miles to the west and on your route home)... Oh WELL... Also what was the name of that shop ? And How did you find out ?? Brian F. AKA GUSMIX...
+GUSMIX22 There was no name or signage. My son lives in north aurora
Just like mine!
+Milan Trcka nice
Nice find.
I wish tubalcain was my shop teacher. I might have actually learnt something!
+Jager Thanks
Mr. Pete, wonder if you can help me. I need to take the spindle out of my lathe. It is a Southbend 10" with a 5C collett socket. Surrounding the collett socket is a metal disc about 4-1/2" in diameter and about 1-1/4" thick. It has 3 socket head screws that go into it on the out side and 3 3/8" square sockets ( which will fit a 3/8" ratchet extension ),that will turn what look like locking cams for another add-on chuck of some sort. Do you know if that 4-1/2" round disc is part of the spindle? I need to get it out because my lathe has a very slight wobble to it. Thank you in advance for any help you can give me. The catalog # is CL187ZB. The bed length is 3-5, and the chart # 6752R. Bill
Hey Mr. Pete. I was wondering if in your many travels you have ever seen a little lathe like mine? (A few short clean up vids on my channel -if you care to take a look) Having never seen one identical to it leads to believe it was either a kit, made from plans, or something someone just designed and cast themselves, but I really don't know.
+John Strange Thanks--I checked yours out--nice
Another instance of T.A.S. I would love to have one myself ;-)
+Brian Petersen Get one
so will we be seeing some restoration videos?.. thanks for sharing sir...
+Kevin Willis I think so
this little South bend dose it have a sharp cutting tool?
thanks for the reply mrpete222
+eric chilton welcome
I just recently bought an old George w fifield lathe that has been converted to electric power don’t know a whole lot about it any information someone familiar with these old ones would be greatly appreciated
thank you for sharing.
+ELSDP-45 you bet
You've got a project right there. Sure she needs some TLC!
I'm curious how true the bed is?
+Fernand Geene Van We'll see
i wish one would follow me home ........lol.........kinda hard to find one in western Kentucky ............
+eric chilton True
damn I want one badly
+Fat “Cajun Thibodaux” Cajun get one
Nice find. 'Dem 'Ole "SBs" know where to find a good retirement home. BTW, there's a live streaming close-up video of a nesting pair of Bald Eagles with 3 eggs, in Pittsburg. Google "Hays Bald Eagle Camera". Thanks for sharing................Dick
+WB8MHE l thanks
According to www.wswells.com/serial_number.html and www.wswells.com/photos/serial_no/SN_info_3.JPG, your lathe was manufactured between 1947 and 1950. Probably closer to 1950 based on the ranges of serial numbers shown there. Enjoy!
+David Hall Thanks