Thomas Halbert's Deleted Tweet Has People Accusing Him of Stealing Money from Fans
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- Опубліковано 5 сер 2024
- Thomas Halbert asked his fans to help his cat Archie but soon after, things escalated with some people calling him a scammer.
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[Thomas Halbert]
• Where I've Been... The...
[Archie Needing Help]
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[Interview with JenLuvsReviews]
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[Responsibility of Owning a Pet]
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www.scientificamerican.com/ar...
www.instituteofcaninebiology....
[Proper Budgeting]
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Love you and the work you do for us Spill! ❤
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The true crime here are those ridiculously expensive vet bills
to be honest
I mean it's a surgery. It's just like surgery for a person they need to be put to sleep and monitored the same way. As well as the fact that someone went to school to be qualified to do said surgery. You're paying for a professional to perform a life saving surgery. I don't think $5,000 is that far of a stretch. Pets are expensive, if you don't want the financial responsibility don't get a pet. If you do have a pet it's important to have pet insurance as well as take your pet consistently for preventative care ie. Shots, testing, yearly blood work, heartworm prevention etc. There's programs for these things. My dog is on a wellness plan for her preventative care. A vet is still a doctor.
@@livinglife6543 my dog also had a surgery and it was no more than 170
@@ingedijk2500 My dog got fixed and that surgery was a little over $1000 though I payed it on a plan because I'm not rich like that. I've never heard of such a low price for a surgery. Was it a small one? It probably also depends on if your dog had to be put to sleep or not. Also if your dog has to stay at the office for a certain amount of time, the after care, the medicine. In general medical treatment for animals or for humans is gonna be expensive. That's why we get insurance.
@@livinglife6543 I'm not American, so that explains it and my dog was put to sleep and had medicines and had to stay for a while
I’m more concerned about the cat Archie. Seems like such a sweet boy
Archie is about 10 years, seems to be overweight so with or without the medical issues the cat would prob only have a few years left.
Yeah me too. I'm just dying for the cat, then Thomas is like meh for me.
Me too im allergic to them. Even though im allergic
Honey ....so? it’s still a living, breathing, feeling, caring being. are you trying to rationalize not caring about the cat?
Right? All I care about is the poor kitty.
my opinion changed back and forth every 2 minutes
Same
Stardust Blox fr😐💀
I know right
Same bro
Me too!
I really felt when the person said “do you not realize how fast finances can change”. Truer words have never been spoken
My mom had tons of money and it was gone in a day because of issues with the bank and credit card. It really can change in a day.
Yes! I read something once that said “most of us are a couple emergencies away from being homeless” and I...🥴
@@imsrryboris I have adhd and honestly, that sounds impossible to me. I would never be able to decide lol
No kidding. I'm usually fairly meticulous about my finances, but absolutely have gone to look at my account and been surprised, not to mention things do just spring on you out of left field. I can't imagine having my furbabies in this situation, though.
@@imsrryboris yaaaa so qUiRkY
I’ve honestly never heard of this guy...
same
same...
Same
Passionzb right.....
Nope.
i feel like he wasn’t scamming and was actually struggling however the way he handled everything wasn’t great.
Kendall Ramsay he should’ve just put the cat to sleep
strawberry creme honestly with the state it was in it would of been the best option. Sometimes you just gotta say goodbye even if it hurts
@@cremadefresita Well that's easy for you to say when it's not your cat.
@@olivebranch7769 But if your cat suffer over and over again. I think it's time to stop being so selfish and let go.
Nica Aaaa exactly! and i had to put my own baby to sleep because he kept getting seizures
“thomas thee scammer” 💀💀
Ik no one was talking about that like 🤨😐
@@spivey033103 it's because he changed the name while the scandal was over I think. Look
This was during the scandal 16:42
It's just his original name until he changed it
the name aged like milk
I_am _duck yep
Ikr
“The Thomas Halbert bank account stans” I-
Literally though, like, how can people not fathom that he was in a period of dire financial straits and a few weeks later he’s perfectly fine...that’s how paychecks work; especially on social media where there’s no consistent pay schedule for freelancers. He wasn’t acting like he was starving, he just said he was between paychecks and needed money for an emergency.
That's what banks are there for
abeilles26 if you want a bank loan, its not a 10 minute process, and he had already stated his credit isnt great, so he most likely wouldnt be approved for one
Before corona i had an apartment, a laptop, 3 jobs and i was in school. Now i had to deop out and i cant pay $400 rent at a low income place. Things can def change
That’s why you save money...??
That’s why you save money?? Especially, if you spend it frivolously... I am sorry if you make $10,000 a month and spend $5000 on wants, and then the other half on bills, THATS an issue.
i actually hoped you would say “don’t send hate to Thomas’s cat”
ahaa yh i was thinking if she'd say that, but... obviously not XD XD
*Thomas'
Nat :3 it’s actually Thomas’s because it’s just one person and not multiple people (Thomas is his name so the s isn’t indicating that it’s plural)
Rainbow dash ohhhh ok
@@ya-boi-steeb344 Nope, y'all are being pedantic in the wrong direction. After a singular S on the end of a proper noun, a single apostrophe is appropriate, and does not need the final possessive "s". It's an okay convention to do "s's" -- that's not wrong, per se -- but it's not generally going to be viewed as the correct standard. Signed, someone who's done a lot of writing for money for people who preferred a lot of different stylebooks, nearly all of which agreed on this point.
no one:
spills captions: "archie: (meow)"
that was so cute tho.
i-
*you realize he is moaning in pain.*
*Everyone liked that*
@@ysf9177 yeah, poor kitty. im glad he's doing better now!
@@ysf9177 its fine :)
@@ysf9177 the cute thing they're referring to is the caption
He could’ve sold just ONE of his balenciaga items and that could’ve helped everything. He probably could’ve just sold 3 of his expensive clothing items/shoes/purses and that would’ve paid for everything.
They might've been rented though.
It’s really hard to sell things especially expensive things no matter what app you have
@@fart_bosss Yes, absolutely. Frontrow is one website, at least in the UK. There must be dozens in his neck of the woods.
Zoop yepppp
So true.
Thomas: Isn't very financially smart
Fans: We'll help but try to be more financially smart next time
Thomas: Moves to a cheaper house
Fans: *Wait that's Illegal*
It's so disgusting how people after he literally went to say he will be more financially responsible is moving out of his house etc to fix his expenses, went on to continue to yell about how he needs to be more financially responsible. like, bruh
@@Disatiere Yeah, it’s ridiculous. People really see, to not understand that finances can change in a matter of days
Pp
Don’t know who he is this is the first time I’m seeing his name anywhere on the internet. But I’m down for some tea so let’s sip in.
same
Kayla McDuffie same
Same! Never heard of him before this!
Saaaaaaaaammmmeeeee who is he
same
me, thinking the story is almost over: *is only 10 minutes in*
Sameeee
Sameeee
I'm literally at 10 ish minutes and just thought the same thing😂
Sameeee
Sameeee
What makes me really sad is how easy it is in the US to get into financial trouble due to medical emergencies (regardless of how well Thomas Halbert handled the situation). I'm so thankful that I grew up in a country where insurance is something affordable and common especially when it comes to health care - and where the multiple surgeries of my cat basically cost me close to nothing, 'cause my insurance covered nearly all of it.
The subtle shade of "I'm never eating out" and Spill showing his tweets has me DEAD
Ordering is not eating out tho?
Like?
@@Disatiere Ordering can cost as much if not more then eating out depending on what you buy and where from.
@@shia2308 still doesn't change that those are two different things
@@Disatiere My point was it doesn't change the fact he's spending money he either doesn't have or could be better spent.
@@Disatiere it's the same lol
I realized way too late that this is a 58 minute video.
Sameeee, i thought it was 10 minutes.
Sameeeeeee
I'm 41:20 in, and im not about to leave with only 17 minutes left
Cydni S. Is it worth it
Are you not aware that you can back out and watch a different video
I get a sneaking suspicion the people who said he should have spent his rent money on his cat have never actually paid rent.... Seriously
I used $1000 of my mortgage payment to save one of my puppies, who had an extremely bad uti, which made her pass huge blood clots. Sometimes you don't have a choice but to use your rent/mortgage money for emergencies.
@@laughonk100 idk my landlord would have said he's sorry to lose me as a tenant....
@@Wesker6969 I agree with you, I've only been in one rental with a landlord who would be understanding in this situation. For me it was worth the risk of losing my house, luckily we were able to make it work and paid our mortgage on the last day before being charged late fees. It was extremely stressful.
I would step in front of a train for my cats. I know I'm crazy, but some of just are like that.
It’s not that people paying rent wouldn’t want to do anything for their pets but how would it help their pet if they ended up homeless? That doesn’t mean they wouldn’t “step in front of a train” for their pets too
I believe he needed the money for the moment and he’s just lucky he has a following that would send him money.
43:30 I don't understand why everybody's upset about him moving into that house he said he was moving in with his boyfriend which means his utilities and the rent is half that price. That's how much the house cost as a whole but if he's living with his boyfriend it literally cuts the bills in half for him....
Anyone else not care about Thomas and only care about the poor kitty? :(
me ;-;
I want justice for any cats who's owners are using them as a means for money when they already have enough to take them to the vet
And still have lots of money left over for themselves
Especially if the pet in question is actually sick and in pain and NEED to go to the vet ASAP
That's the equivalent of someone begging for funds for their best friend who has cancer and just using it to go buy handbags and botox
I mean what about the woman who is trying to get back on her feet with a family?.... I mean really? That cat is dying he is wasting money trying to keep it alive... he has only managed to prolong its suffering..
The Dark One ok that’s kind of dark a cat is not just a pet it becomes apart of a family it’s a lifelong commitment
It really broke my heart hearing him in pain :(
Vet bill's are no joke especially at emergency vets. 1 visit can range from 800-2k or even more 😣 depending on overnight stay and what needed to be done. I really hope the kitty is okay.
Archie is doing just fine!! he’s a good boy 💖
when my kitty got sick they said that if we don’t pay they will look after her, make her better then they put her up for adoption through the vet to make sure she goes to a good home, i had the money and they had afterpay thank god but it ended up being over 2k (this is in australia though, idk how they do it over in the states)
Exactly. My cat had the same thing Archie did (not as severe - no surgery needed) when I was out of town. My boyfriend took him to the emergency vet and I had to pay 1500 down. I had fortunately gotten paid that day and was able to give them my card info over the phone. I had to borrow from family to help pay rent, and I'm still paying them back. I'm young and still learning how to save, so I didn't have 1.5k in my savings. Fortunately, I got some of my deposit back, and 3 months later kitty is doing just fine. I keep seeing people calling him a bad pet parent... you don't expect emergencies. And you can't truly prevent urethral blockages, even with special food and lots of water. Male cats are just prone to it! I really feel for Thomas, and I'm glad Archie is ok.
Yeah my dog ate a rock and the surgery was 6,000 dollars 😬
Same! I hope that he heals okay
Random: he should have been more open about where money went!
Austin: **sends receipts**
Random: I'm not reading all that.
Atleast he had been honest of how irresponsible he was.
Thomas: I'm never eating out
Spill: *I'm about to end this whole mans career*
I don't know why that segment made me laugh 😂
I love the way she just paused the video and pulled up the recites lol
And that’s just when he decided to talk about it 😂
Vøid This could happen to any of us. I’m pretty sure we all don’t eat out but someone can find messages of us talking about eating out. Lol
there were like three or four instances though. Unless they happened on successive days that really does justify saying he doesn't eat out.
I’m weirded out by how many of his “friends” (the big UA-camrs he has filmed with in the last few years) didn’t want to help him at all. It seems like they’re the people who know him personally, and they aren’t willing to support him?
Edit: my point is that if his friends who know him personally won’t help, there is probably some dishonesty going on.
That’s influencers for ya
It could also be that because they know him personally and have a better idea of his spending habits, didn’t quite trust him to pay them back or felt like they may become the person he goes to constantly for money.
Im weirded out that he didnt just sell one of his gucci bags, would’ve more than covered it.
They probably aren't actually friends and in it for clout, this is the world of Fame.
Whould you give your hard working money to a friend that you know spends his easily and doesn't know how to sustain himself propely?
When are you going to see that money go back in your pocket? 200andNever?
if it was me, i'll borrow money from my fans to save my cat, take their names one by one, then repay my fans asap with interests.
“I’ve been running on 6 hours of sleep for 3 days”
*laughs in student work and stress*
edit : now that i’ve gone back in person for highschool, i try to get my full sleep lol ! :)
Right! Lol
I've been running on 5 hours
.. for 6 months
been living on 4-6 hours for 3 years 😔
i've been running
AnnYT I’ve been running on nothing for my whole 13 years of life
I can’t believe I was watching a scandal about a cat🤣
Which is also **58 minutes long**
Fr tho
Gt gma
Girl 🤔😂😂😂😂
Cat got your tongue?
Me: the internet is garbage
Also me: still on the internet.
Irreverent Bard Same
Irreverent Bard yup
Wow quirky
Nyrhtak Ingar hella quirky
I know lol
my heart goes out to the bloke, i know what it's like to be so emotionally invested in a cat and nobody understanding 💀
That's not the issue here... did you watch the video? Lol
So, yes I know that to, but he kept the cat in pain by waiting until he got the money THAT HE ALREADY HAD.
@@thecreature916 exactly. There is no way I would stand around videoing my cat in pain. I'd be at the vet and then the pawn shop selling my stuff before you could blink.
I applaud how he seemingly wants to improve and that the well being of his cat at least got him to wake up. Whether it's real or not I don't know but if progress has been made then it's for the betterment of himself, his loved ones, society and, most importantly of all, his cat. So I REALLY hope he does get better and will continue to get better.
this is why i feel school's should have finance classes 5-10th grade..
teach em early.
sounds like my school. we got finance classes from 4th grade even. idk if it's asian schools thing but for me, yes 😂
i learned a little bit in 5 th grade but i forgot
in Australia, I think its usually year 9-12. 9-10 is basically teaching them how to make businesses I think I don't do commerce and how to make money and then in year 11-12 there are other topics like Economics, Legal studies and services and I think more that I'm assuming go into depth about Money tricks
Yeah i took financial literacy once as a freshman and remember NONE OF IT. American schools need to teach financial classes early on and consistently.
Afterdecklars -IG I agree 100%. It’s so important for kids to understand financial safety and balance and just what it’s like to survive in the world.
When I was a kid in the 90s and went to college in 2000, they were handing out credit cards like candy and we all lived above our means to our detriment later in life.
They need to be educating better on real life necessities.
I remember losing my cat to bladder crystals... I wish I could have recieved help
I lost my cat to a blockage.
I don’t have a cat.. never even had a pet :(
『Cherry Bløssøms』 it’s ok
i lost our boy too this as well my heart is out for you
Clarke Sylvester I’m very sorry for your loss ❤️
My favorite is that he mocked someone with "take a finance class" but here he is, straight up saying he never learned finances. Straight up hypocritical, never really liked him before but this showed it more.
I actually believe him and yes I do think he was irresponsible. But he is being accountable on how his actions were the cause of this. He is trying to be more responsible going to college (with financial aid) getting a job, etc.
It's a lot, plenty of youtubers, instagrammers and other influencers live the way Thomas used to, and give their audience a pretty bad image on how much money do they earn vs. how much money they spend, therefore why I see so much people trying to become youtubers like it's the way to get rich and popular fast and quick, but that's not the reality, just the fantasy we see through a poorly managed financial life. Plenty of people need wakeup calls like this.
Eruxa Dierr completely true, I think Thomas got the wake up call he needed and I think he was the perfect example we needed for these young people who have the fantasy you described. He thought it would last forever, just like everyone else probably does. But that isn’t real, only what people on Instagram, and other social media’s show. I don’t want this to sound awful when I say this so don’t set me on fire or anything, but I’m glad this happened to him because now it opened the door to a new conversation about budgeting that people didn’t take very seriously before. I’m glad he recovered though.
Same
If he has 100 to his name..he cant afford 2500 a month .period.
it's like no one listened after they heard $8000/month, he literally explains that he is getting a job, moving and fixing all of it because it obviously isn't sustainable. I dont blame him for thinking the money would last forever but, unlike most super successful youtubers, he's taking responsibility and changing - I really wish more people would appreciate that
Did he say he'd unfortunately paying out of pocket.....for HIS cat.
Yeah buddy that's how it works, welcome to adulthood.
Amethyst Rain he said that because of pet insurance.
@@brookesoldiersunite3325 291 people don't care about the facts, apparently
Soldiers Unite
Even with human insurance, people still have to pay out of pocket. It’s no different with pets.
@@mayaw.4013 And even with human insurance, paying out of pocket is still unfortunate. Paying a lot out of pocket is unfortunate, but that doesn't mean Thomas regrets doing it.
Anyway I think Amethyst Rain doesn't even realize "out of pocket" is (in this case) an insurance term. So the guy you are replying to is trying to teach AR.
Maya W. But in this case, his use of “out of pocket” is talking about a lack of insurance.
When I was 12 my 15 year old dog had to be put down
I was heartbroken as I had grown up with her but I knew she was suffering and needed to go to a better place.
I knew it was her time to go so I know how it felt
It’s not “I’m broke” it’s “i don’t wanna spend my own money on it”
Love how he changed his Twitter handle to "Thomas thee scammer." He always behaves inappropriately and then tries to make himself the victim when ppl try to hold him accountable. Ppl wanted him to know that they aren't blind to what he does from one minute to the next. They see him talking about going to Disney and then the next minute fundraising for his pet's surgery.
Kristie McCloud 💯
It's been Thomas Thee Scammer for a long time...
@@renoloverxoxo Okay
@cordawg ANIMATION Or he could've let ppl use his platinum Disney pass for a fee to raise the money for his cat's treatments.
Kristie McCloud uhhh, he can’t do that. when you enter with a pass it shows a picture of the person who owns the pass
Let’s be real here
Thomas isn’t the smartest person in the bunch when it comes to finances. He made mistakes and will probably make more in the future, but that’s how you learn and better yourself
exactly, ppl keep saying how omg he pays 4k rents and blah blah blah... but the point is he USED to, and wont anymore cuz he LEARNED, and ppl make mistakes all the time
Nou 0306 facts
ive seen that people dont see influencers as being able to learn from their past.
Erika Noyola that’s unfortunate. It’s important to realize that influencers are human in the first place
@@erikanoyola9810 u ppl???? who is u ppl? and no i didnt forget about him owning expensive stuff, im just saying idk the ppl critisizing him have def made mistakes in there life and the answer is obvious only after everythings done. Im not saying hes not at fault but theres a LOT to take in, mentaly, who he is, who he was and much more....
This is why you *never* *never* *never* ask anyone for money. Ppl want to know it all. But to be fair ppl can't be trusted and ppl need proof of where did the money go.
He honestly seems like a very genuine person. It's like exactly how I would react in a situation like this. He's not even going to pay for his house alone.
Y’all let’s be real here
he is human after all he’ll react like that when stressed and he mentioned that he wasn’t financially smart
Just hoped he won’t make the same mistake again
That's fair, but I find it personally frustrating.
I made a large move so I tucked away a lot of money for an emergency. Without making it too personal, I lost my contract for a job and apartment 3 months earlier than the contract said. I took a childcare job, but couldn't make rent because I didn't work during the break. Then I still haven't gotten my deposit back on an apartment because I had to call the police on my roommate. I had to dip into my savings and my new job is barely making ends meet.
I had to leave my cat with my parents through all this which I hated, even though it was the best thing for him.
I don't have a lot of sympathy for the financial situation of someone who can drop $1000 on a Disneyland pass, even though I am very sorry that he had a rough time with his cat.
But despite my difficulties and having to eat ramen and everything... I didn't e-beg. I didn't ask anyone for money. While I'm older than Thomas (I think) I'm not *that* much older. People are asking a very frazzled ant to have sympathy for the grasshopper in his time of need. I'm sorry that he's having a time of need, but I am too. I just didn't live a lavish life style so I don't have to ask people for donations right now. (And... I know I did get some help that I'm very grateful for, my landlords in particular have been very kind and understanding of some of the problems and I've been sure to repay them by always being on time with my rent.)
celarania The funny thing is in the first little clip of Archie he wasn’t wagging his tail, meowing, purring (purring can also mean clearing up their their throat(maybe even respiratory system)) and was moving his legs. Maybe it’s just me but that seems fine. I’m also very sad for you. I think he was asking for more than he needed.
and, coincidentally, he did it again
Seeing his situation makes me realize how bad I am with my money. I need to stop playing around as if I've got thousands in the bank and start saving and spending more responsibly. Thank you for the video, Spill! You two did an amazing job!
Me too
Literally me watching this 😭😩
Me too I was literally eating an ice cream from McDonald's as that one girls was saying " you don't need a purchase to treat your self" 😂🔫 f*ck lol
Me too
Ikr this makes me want to be more responsible too.
This goes to prove that no matter how much money you make or have, you should ALWAYS have emergency funds put aside for your pet. You don't plan illness/injuries/etc.!!!
HE was reckless and HE wasted his money, he now knows how people struggle and I hope he learns this and helps others because of what he came through.
They really took the cost of his living expenses and ran with it. “He needs a reality check” HE GOT ONE. He literally said he’s moving in with his Bf and moving somewhere that only cost 1500k. And he knows he was being irresponsible and he’s working on it. Like he’s attempting to change his life for the better and you’re talking down to him? Like really?
Exactly this.
I agree! He also could have sold some of his stuff though, but he didn’t
That's what the internet does best. Everyone likes to feel powerful because they're behind a screen 🙄
Tbh, some of ya'll are too invested into these youtuber's lives.
Cuz they don't have lives themselves 🤦🏽♀️
@@kiwibaby335 everyone has a life? And everyone has problems in it celebrity or not.
Some celebrities even get stalked.
King Katerin I know righttttttt
I have no clue who Thomas is, but Spill videos are entertaining
*most. It’s just embarrassing.
I've never liked Thomas but people need to back up with the financial advice. All it takes to go from having a ton of money to nothing is being fired without notice. I got laid off (not my fault) about 3 weeks before Christmas and despite several interviews, probably won't be hired until the new year. It's easy to preach about financial security and living withing your means when your not in the midst of a crisis. But the fact is that the majority of Americans would be crippled by an unexpected emergency of 500 or more (I don't want to go find the actual statistics right now but I'm pretty sure its over 50%).
He may know now that he needs to be financially responsible, but he can't go back in time and unspend money. Yes he can go sell some of the luxury things he has, but that's not something you can do in the heat of an emergency.
Just because people don't like him, doesn't mean its okay for them to be disgusting while he is in the middle of crisis.
7:49 Imagine how salty and entitled you have to be, all those interactions were a lost of time, just say "pls, retweet my campaign because "
Seems like some people have an issue understanding the meaning of "cash flow" and "emergency" to me. Expecting $8,000 in a month's time (ad sense or brand deal income etc) is absolutely USELESS if your cat is dying RIGHT NOW ! People have also completely ignored the fact that the rent on the Texas house is half the rent of the L.A place (almost) plus he said he was moving in with his boyfriend and they will split THAT amount so he is effectively paying one quarter the amount he was before (from $4,000 to a little over $1,000 ) that's a smart move to me 🤷♀️
That's the problem with a young fan base, easy to convince to buy things but hard to explain basic financial matters to 🤦♀️
You also realize that he's suffering from his own financial mistakes, for which I have little sympathy for. He should have already had an emergency fund, but even if he didn't, I'm sure he could have easily sold his designer attire and bags, in order to pay for the vet bills. The problem is not his fanbase, but his naivete. Maybe you should explain basic economics to him, that way he'll be able to manage his spending habits better.
@@lycanite7886 selling designer things is extremely difficult (more so than regular items) and the cat needed *immediate* care. no one was paying for this guy, they were paying to save that innocent cat who needed medical attention immediately. i wouldn't care about him if he was begging for money to buy a car or something, but that cat needed help and i'm glad the donations saved him
What pisses me off is that $2450 rent in Texas is still luxury! Like how about getting a one bedroom apartment instead? Wouldn't it have been EVEN better if his new rent was $1000 or even $800 so that 1. With the bf paying he would only have to pay 4-500 a month 2. He can still afford it by himself.
Just because the rent is less than his previous (outrageous) rent doesn't mean anything if it isn't low enough for him to actually live a life he can afford. Plus the less he spends on rent the more he has to inject into his face, so it's a win win or more a win lose cause those injections are gonna mess him up before 25
@@vandaway1 so is $2000+ rent in cali a luxury for a small apt? you have to be extremely lucky to find a place for cheap in NY, CA, Texas, and in major areas. Texas is kinda up there with the rest because people go there often
Thomas wasn't taught financial responsibility. It happens. He got wealthy at a young age. That changes a person.
This actually makes me so triggered. When this happened to my cat, we put him down. He was suffering. I knew that and cared enough to put aside my feelings for his sake. I’ve had him for over 10 year and my was my best friend and baby, helped me through depression and I would jump into a burning building for him.
UTI are not a death sentance people get the all the time your situation was probably different as the animal was older but if the animal can be saved it's not fair to just euthenize it without really trying. Granted at times it would've been a smart idea to consider it for his cat or find someone who could pay for it so he could get quicker help.
Sorry for your loss
Depression Bro my cat is sick as I type this and he is dying, really not okay with this Thomas guy
@@jamespagous3954 has ur cat gotten better🥺
@@jamespagous3954 is ur cat ok????
By the time he realized he couldn’t maintain a 4000 dollar rent he was already stuck in a lease! If you move out you still owe that year of rent DUH
He's young and he's made mistakes, but Archie needed help. I hope he's learned his lesson, emergencies happen and having savings is a must! Considering he lives in a country where medical/vet bills can be so excitement/expensive!
I meant excessive, not excitement lol
Exactly! People saying he could afford the vet bills bc he owns Gucci bags and expensive things are ignorant because he was either in a good place with his money to buy them in the past or was just irresponsible with his money and is now suffering the consequences because of it.
@@erikaisabella2651 he literally could've sold those expensive items. they would have covered the vet bills and he wouldn't have been using strangers money to cover for his own mistake. how do you think people with no following cover expensive bills? they get a min wage job and work extra hours
@@emmarellda181 A minimum wage job with extra hours is gonna cover 6k in bills that don't have a payment plan, meaning they need to be paid up front and before the procedures take place? That cat would've died if it wasn't for his fans. Either way he's a kid who thought his popularity was gonna make him money forever. He seemed to learn at the very least.
Ashley Miranda being young ain’t a excuse to be a scammer. He knew what he was doing
I remember my cat suffering from blockages so often that the total amount we ended up spending was $2000+ (the vet basically had to save him from the dead, it was so bad). The cat is doing great now, but he’s really my best friend and I couldn’t imagine if my family wasn’t financially able to save my baby
I thank the vet for saving your cat.
I have a huge tabby boy who had this happen a ton- I remember him getting sick 2 days before pay day and we had just moved into our first home. We still rushed him to the vet, gave them all our details, told them where we lived and explained we couldn't pay, it was humbling but my boy needed the help. They took my boy, treated him, gave us medicine on the basis we would come back and pay. The moment payday came we went over, paid them in full and gave them a box of chocolates to say thank you.
He's now 2 years UTI/blockage free and doing well. I'm so grateful to that vet for helping us and allowing us to keep our boy. He's fully insured now.
$5-$9k is ludicrous for a CAT! I mean, really.
This hurts because my tabby cat got the same thing but we had to put him down.. I don't understand how vet bills can be so horrible while our medical ones are covered by OHIP. I wish it covered animals too so my cat would still be alive. Putting down an animal for a UTI shouldn't be a thing, they should help save it no matter what...
ontario gang
I pay like $40 a month for insurance for my dog, just like i pay for own insurance 🤷🏼♀️
Animals aren't humans, that's why. They do not have the same rights as us, never have and never will. Also, this isn't me being heartless, this is just me being realistic.
Vincent the Mortician I'm sorry for your loss.
we were really lucky with my baby boy. He is also a tabby, got him from the rspca at 3 months old. He was going to be put down if he was there for any longer. He was about 4 or 5 years old when he got his Uti.
We live in Aus, and it would have only cost us a couple of hundred for the overnight and catheter and blood work, but it happened to happen on a weekend so we had to take him to emergency. It ended up being 1.5 thousand. We were really lucky we had that much in savings (we don't have that much money, and at the time it was just mum and me) and he recovered well. It was then two weeks later when he got it again. Thankfully it wasn't on a weekend that time. He managed to recover well and thankfully hasn't had it since (he's about 8 now)
He's not on the specialised diet anymore, just still added water to his wet food.
the government doesn't have it in their budget to cover millions of animal's medical care. the cost of running a veterinary clinic is very high and unfortunately that means bills will be high too. if they tried to save every animal whose owner couldnt afford vet care... they would go out of business.
some animals do receive medical treatment when surrendered to the humane society. otherwise, many companies offer pet insurance, and it's also a good idea to start an emergency savings account for your pet.
Gosh people need to give him a break he was clearly in a bad situation and it’s always ok to ask for help if you truly need it
It looks sketchy af
The good thing about donating is you DONT have to lol
Yeah,, but he could've done other things to help his cat, if I was in this situation, I would sell my Unessesary things in my house. Cat>lifestyle I can't afford
@@kiwibaby335 it does! That's what I was thinking☺
think of it like this,someone that has this many fans, getting so much money easily and talking about "i have only 100 bucks" plus he acted very toxic ngl like hes trying to guilt trip ppl that didnt believe him
This whole situation made me scared of being an adult.
The best thing to do as an adult is to learn law and finances (even accounting works). You never know how this will help you massively.
I love that when spill showed the pictures of Thomas tweets and its says "thomas thee scammer"♥️💕
Have no clue who Thomas even is but Spill's voice is so soothing and the editing so on point that I watched straight through anyway!
Same
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@Dana Davison No joke i don't follow 99% of the tea she spills, but I sub'd because of the way Spill presents things! That voice is awesome!
I need to find that person who is renting a 3 bedroom house in California for $950. I live in California and have NEVER seen anything for that price!
NEVER make your cat go through that much suffering, no matter how much you love them. It’s not right.
i’m not sure how i feel about him, but i do support the message of keeping his cat, no matter how long their memories last or how much they love you, you adopt a pet forever you should not give it up because of an issue like a uti even though things can be hard, you should put money away or just not adopt an animal if you can’t take care of it properly. these are just my feeling and personal opinions and i completely respect anyone who disagrees.
Seriously, I feel like the people who were criticizing him , blatantly ignored all the answers to questions.
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PERIODT. IT MADE ME SO FRUSTRATED
Omg I thought the same thing
I feel like a lot of people that are highly criticising him have never moved out themselves. He is definitely in need of a wake up call and needs direction on how to handle his finances better but calling him a scammer seems insane.
Where I live it's around £2k-3k a month for a 2 bed apartment (and not necessarily a nice one at that.) which is $2.5-3.7. And then on top of that is utility, council tax, car bills etc etc. He definitely is spending too much but attacking him that much rather than helping him does nothing for anyone. Has anyone had a vet emergency before? It's an emergency, it can't be postponed until the next pay check. It doesn't care about your spending the previous month. Of course you'll panic!
Well it's not good to use your fans for money if you are in those situations. At the end of the day you yourself got yourself to that point so just using fans for money instead of earning it yourself isn't cool. But I also wouldn't understand what that's like because my household income is 250 thousand per year and that's all I've ever known.
@@kito7599 but the thing is he wasn't "using" his fans for money, it is in the fans own decision whether to donate or not
@@yulij9062 he is using his fans bc half that money he kept and waist it on himself
@@MrMIND-hl8nk on his cats litter, his cats food, and savings.... he should be able to do what he wishes with the extra (it also says he uses it on his bills)
@@kito7599 who says it's not good to use your fans money? Fans who want to help. Who says that?
I feel bad, I don’t understand the struggle of bills yet, but I could never imagine my cat being hurt and not having the money to help.
Thomas: I've been running on 6 hours of sleep for 3 days
College students: *Allow me to introduce my self*
Me who's in middle school :I'M RUNNING ON NO SLEEP AHHHHH
My teachers: are you ok?
Me:yeah I'm fine
Spill-"pets can cost $1000 a year"
Me-"ohhh snap I might be over-spoiling my cats"
Wow you must be rich, lucky for your cat ha.. I wish I could spoil my dog too I love him the most!
A haha I'm almost broke because I spoil my cat that much.
I don’t spoil my cat but she does take over my bed and I’ve felt bad of moving her over before so I sleep on the couch sometimes
Same I spend 1,000 + on my dogs. 😬 Anything to keep them healthy and happy.
@@user-vq1cj5lq8x lol hahahah
The mom shaming him for getting the help she wanted to have is ridiculous and selfish.
i can actually understand the mom frustration though, i've been in a situation where i needed help too for my cats and for myself, and never got it, while online others seems to get whatever help they wanted so easily. I get how she can feels, it's really frustrating sometimes and it can make you angry, not an excuse for shaming though.
*Everyone is attacking everyone these days... 😶*
People are losing their minds, lol.
Saffy • 30 years ago omg your name 💀I rlly thought my phone was acting up when it said 30 years ago
I can understand people wanting to know where their money is going though :)
@@RedRoseSeptember22 Yes I can understand that too. But people on the internet are so negative about almost anything nowadays. Kind of bipolar in the sense that beauty gurus are either all bad or all good. No inbetween. If they are bad, then they only do bad things. If they are good, they can never do no wrong. Its crazy.......
Saffy • 30 years ago EXACTLY!!! I love tea but people really need to mind their own business.
It's kind of sad how society has become nowadays when you can't even trust the people you're donating to anymore.
No one wants to ask social media for a whopping 4,000 dollars, that’s literally trash. One month rent in A LOT of places.
Everyone commenting on his username . . . He did it ironically. That's his humor and way of coping.
Thought he was hacked
Fan's money: *Exists*
Thomas Halbert: Hippity hoppity, your money is my property
I see you everywhere in comment sections
Just Some Bigfoot With Internet Access ~ Your username made this comment even more funny 💀💀💀
Just Some Bigfoot With Internet Access ah, we meet again dood
i love your username
I love you Bigfoot!🥰😅
This situation just gave me a headache and I’m watching it months later
I died at 8:19 “I’m never eating out!” 😂
Thomas: "I've been running on six hours of sleep for three days"
SIS I'm.........
I sleep for 5 hours a day.. its like almost everyday, in one week only 1 day I could sleep for like 8 hours💀
I wasn’t sure if he phrased it wrong and means like he slept total of 6hrs in those 3 days (making it like approx 2hrs per day) or if he really meant 6hrs / day for 3 days. That confused me a little because I could swear that quite a lot of people sleep often roughly 6hrs on daily basis
Call bruh I sleep 2 hours a night
I'm pretty sure he meant 6hrs of sleep within 3 days not 6 hrs a day for 3 days.
I’m happy if I get six hours a night😂
Am I the only one who thinks that viewers of the beauty community are equally as toxic? How many people criticizing him actually live in Los Angeles and are perfectly financially responsible?
Thomas exhausted his other options (family, friends, companies). When people are in need for money, they make a GoFundMe. Why is Thomas an exception to this? How is this any different from influencers that sell merch or have affiliate links? Both a GoFundMe and merch/affiliate links are ways for people to show their support to an influencer. At least the GoFundMe money goes to a good cause. He didn’t force anyone to donate, so why is it anyone else’s business that fans WANT TO support Thomas?
To that person who was complaining that their GoFundMe didn’t get the same attention as Thomas’s, you CANNOT compare the GoFundMe of a regular person to that of an influencer’s. Sorry that a regular person just don’t have the same reach??? Both are equally valid causes, but you simply won’t have the same audience as Thomas will. IN FACT HE RETWEETS THAT PERSON’S GOFUNDME SO THAT IT WILL HAVE A BIGGER AUDIENCE. Literally what more could you want?
Yes, Thomas makes mistakes, but don’t we all? He admitted that he never learned to be financially savvy but he is working on it. Moving to another STATE in order to cut your rent by more than a half is a big decision and also a big step forward for Thomas.
This is his first strike. I hope that he keeps his promise and starts learning to budget and save. If he ends up with a second strike, that’s when his credibility will be questioned.
αυяєιту THANK YOU👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
The thing that gets me is that he is no better than any other American I know. We all behave this way. Even the ones who are "financially savvy". This is American society. The difference here is that his life is on the microscope for everyone to judge without them having to introspect on themselves.
Amanda Peters THIS. I totally agree. All of these people trying to come for him but I’m pretty sure majority of those same people have very little idea what it means to live independently and how to manage their own finances, so who are they to judge? 8k a month living in Los Angeles is actually very possible, especially as an influencer, a job which heavily relies on how well you maintain your appearance/aesthetics.
He retweeted the girls GoFundMe after she tweeted him saying how sad she was about the situation. Also, Merch sales is not comparable to this as you actually get something in return for your money. The only thing people got from Thomas was scammed.
αυяєιту PREACH IT
“I’ve been running on 6 hours of sleep for 3 days”
Students: *Pathetic*
hospital bills are so high, working at a animal hospital made me realize that and honestly now i’m not planning on getting a pet until i’m stable enough to afford services fully
I think a lot of this is just overreaction. If I donated for this cats vet bills, I would only expect the cat to get better. Even if he does live lavishly and needs to change his lifestyle, he obviously needed the money to save his cat in that moment.
When you donate to someone, you have to be financially stable yourself, when you donate to someone you shouldn't feel owed a thank you or evidence that they spent the money properly. If you can't have faith that that person is going to spend the money on what they say, don't donate to them in the first place.
I think it is rather toxic and manipulative to expect someone you lent money to once to make all the changes you think is best for them. That's not what you gave them money for, and if it concerns you so much just don't give them money in the future.
They gave money to him to save his cat, that what happened. Case closed.
I agree with most of that. BUT you are owed proof that what you donated it for went to what the person said it was for. You wouldn't like to donate even 75 dollars of your hard earned money for something serious like a vet/medical bill only for that person to turn around and spend it on a bag, or taking friends out to dinner. Not to mention if it is a go fund me and the funds don't go to what the person asks for I am pretty sure they can get in serious legal trouble. Don't donate if you don't have/want to. But don't be naive and think that just because someone asks for your money they have the best intentions. That is childish.
As someone who did donate, I didn't feel scammed. I didn't see anyone say they donated and felt that they were scammed. He said if anyone felt that you were scammed, that you could ask for a refund. He even said it again the day this video came out. No one has asked for a refund. I was just happy the cat was ok. That's all I wanted.
WHAT? You totally should be able to know if they spent the money properly if you’re donating money to a specific cause. Your thought process is incredibly out of touch with reality lol. You can get a nasty fine for using donation money for other purchases(and sometimes even jail time if it’s over a certain amount).
I second this. It felt like most people who were upset were just salty that he is living lavishly
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I just think that he did his best for Archie. It wasn’t the best thing ever, but people can learn.
Ok but his username is literally “Thomas thee scammer” 😂
If the guy was desperate to save his cat. He should have sold his expensive stuff. Would literally helped him so much
“My rent is 4,000” im-
Alyssa Faith wElCoMe to cAliFoRnIa
cremit?
I live in LA. It's an expensive city! 😭 with my salary almost anywhere else I could own a house but not here!
YeeYeeBoi I’m in NY it’s 3,500 a Month
Brown Eyes Princess come to new york city ma 😭😭 .
First question- Who’s Thomas?
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Right..I'm just hearing about him now
Rosalía_ reina de España same
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I laughed too hard at this 🤦🏽♀️😂
i literally cannot be mad at this dude because seeing that cat in pain is GUT WRENCHING.
I am kinda mad as he waited to get the money for the surgery thing, when he already had the money, meanwhile his cat was probably in extreme pain for every second he waited.
How did my grandma get a care credit card when her credit is only in the 400s 😂 and I got one when my credit score is 0!
I was skeptical already, but when he said elf paid 75% then said they only sent 500$? Then he's like the extra money went to a special crate, then he's saying he put it in a savings? Really weird
Lizzy Br literally nothing he said makes any sense. It’s also not that hard to go get a job. If you have $100 to your name even McDonalds would be a good gig. You can apply straight from your phone
I really don’t get how he could jump from saying they paid 75% of a $5,000+ bill to it only being a $500 gift card. Also, he changed details, he said the bill had gotten up to $7000+ and he had $200+ leftover that he put in his savings but then he also later said it was $5000+ and how he didn’t have any money leftover after spending it on the special crate
@@Willowtree82 still doesnt explain why his story kept changing though. 🤔
Sarah Richardson yes it does. He cleared it up every time and gave receipts. Watch it again if you don’t understand.
if you really love your cat. and its sick. going to disneyland is the last thing on your mind.
“I’ve been running on 6 hours of sleep for three days” 😂 this boy doesn’t have a full time job and responsibilities
Audrey Moreland That doesn’t discredit the stress he was under. A teen can experience that level of stress as well from something like this.
Bones exactly!! i dealt with that literally when I was 13 and barely slept under the amount of stress I was under. it can happen to anyone, whether you’re just a kid starting their freshman year in high school or a 23 year old with 2 jobs (technically 3 since I started twitch streaming but I don’t make money off of it) and adult responsibilities.
I empathize with him. I can understand his situation. He was frustrated. He was upset. He was scared for his cat’s life. Things online can get blown out of proportion. I think he was just scared and I don’t blame him.
The people asking about his finances aren’t even people who donated to the go fund me it’s people who don’t even like him
Aya acey I mean why is that surprising or even wrong?
Listen, if you ask for money publicly, you can't be mad if anybody and everybody (whether they eff with you are not. You are bringing the public into your finances and don't get to control the reaction.
It's definitely good and necessary that people stand up for their fellow humans if they think they are being exploited. But these commentators went about it the wrong and hysterical way.
Emergencies happen and he needed quick last minute cash and asked for help. This is no different from everyday life when we have something random that pops up. He's young and still learning, we all are no matter what age. He didn't need all that extra, especially if he had receipts.
I feel like this is such a sad and heartbreaking situation to be in... as someone who had to deal with a pet's acute medical condition myself, I can definitely account for the fact that if you don't have the money (or at least a deposit) to give the vet, they will REFUSE treating your pet no matter how sick he/she is.I just wish people would try to empathize with him, regardless of what he chose to pay for prior to his cat getting sick (whether it was lip injections or whatnot) bc no one is psychic and you can't predict if and when your pet will become severely ill. People assume just because someone has millions of followers they automatically make a ton of money but that may not always be the case. We don't know what bills or personal expenses these influencers may have, its honestly really sad to see so many people jumping on board to bash this kid when he's just trying to save his sick cat.