To recap what was actually going on in this clip: Pink was at the piano, ignoring his wife. While on tour, Pink's wife meets a guy at a nuclear disarmament rally and begins an affair with him. Pink tries calling her from the road and the man answers the phone. Pink now knows she's cheating on him. After a concert, a groupie follows Pink back to his hotel room. As she tries to seduce him, his anger at his wife erupts and he destroys the hotel room and scares the groupie away. Pink then lays around dwelling upon his wife's infidelity. The mother is always the older, big woman. The father is always shown at war. Neither of them are ever shown in other stages of their lives.
@@edwardilowiecki8925 because... it just IS? I remember not getting the whole thing together after a few times of watching (and just enjoying). Took help from an explaining article and some more times watching the movie. I've never met anyone who got through all the connections, metaphors and symbols by watching the movie the first time without any explanations. And if you are honest, neither did you, right?
I sure didn't. And that's what makes this band's work so rewarding. Every revisit of their albums and films is a revelation of something new. As you grow, your perspective changes, and great art keeps up with you: challenging/rewarding you with new connections and insights into yourself.
@timkohler3923 I listened to the album dozens of times, alone with the lyrics in front of me, before watching the movie. Discussed it with friends. So, yes, I agree. One superficial listening will not be enough to get it. Or even scratch the surface. (And that's why in my comments to reactors to music from the wall, I always recommend not watching the movie before they have a more or less coherent idea in their mind on what the F it is about)
His mother did not sleep with the doctor, the girl he was watching with the binoculars, and dancing with, was his future wife, who then cheated on him with the guy from the protest rally, so then he decided to take the groupie home, but he is too immersed in his own grief to actually care about sex. You must remember that he grew up after WW2 when so many fathers in England had died, there was violence, and protests in backlash against the leaders, and the youth were coming of age in a time of change, and upheaval from a time of relative past calm. He holds Hitler, and The British King, "Kind Ole King George" responsible for his fathers death. He makes a mockery of himself as the front man of a rock group by comparison as a Hitler rally, showing that people can be led to blindly follow others, no matter what the message is, just to fit in with society around them. He is disillusioned by the world in which he lives. However, he eventually realizes it is him, and each of us that must take personal responsibility for our actions, and we can only judge ourselves, and do the right thing.
"The inevitable pinhole burns." I remember in the 60's and 70's, no matter how well we'd cleaned our weed, we'd inevitably get pinhole burns on our shirts from popping seeds.
In the UK we mainly smoked hashish, from India or North Africa, and if you didn't crumble it enough mixing with the tobacco "hot rocks" would fall out of your spliff and make pin-hole burns in your clothes.
@@andymccracken4046 Yeah it's hash, he's even smoking hash at some point in the movie... I had MANY inevitable pinhole burns on most of my shirts in the 90's.
As a teenager in the 1980s, the Wall, both album and movie, really spoke to me. Through all my teenage angst, I wouldn’t say I ever felt suicidal. But I could totally identify with Pink’s decision to put up a wall around himself to totally disassociate himself from the world
@@wdrauch It’s a good time to hear it first. It spoke directly to me and resonated so deeply that it remains one of my all-time favorite albums. The music is sensational too, of course ❤️
The Wall concept and story is written by Roger Waters - the band's bass player, co-vocalist, and conceptual leader during this era of Pink Floyd. He is considered one of the top lyricist in all of rock. The Wall story is an amalgam of Roger (whose father was killed in the 2nd world war), and Syd Barrett, the band's co-founder and childhood friend of Roger's who actually did go mad early on and was dropped from the band before they barely got started. Roger never quite got over either of these tragedies, and while he visits subjects of madness and war during previous Floyd abums, it really all comes spilling out in this rock opera masterpiece. Not a fun story for sure, but a brilliant achievement in the annals of Rock that will most likely never ever be repeated.
There's a really good interview with Roger Waters on WTF podcast.. I found it amazing to hear his story..he talks about how he conceived 'Us And Them '
It's great watching this along with you guys! One thing though, is that it wasn't his mom that was with that guy in bed, it was his wife cheating on him while he was on tour. She cheated because he got increasingly distant while he was home. She wanted to be intimate and all he wanted to do was watch the soccer game. This section is mainly about his wife and him growing apart and him blaming her becoming part of his wall. That's why he broke down while the groupie was there. He was thinking of his wife cheating on him. The TV always has some sort of war movie on which symbolizes how his father dying in the war is always weighing on him in the back of his mind.
When The Wall is performed live in concert a 35 ft tall wall is slowly constructed across the front part of the stage until the band is eventually completely walled off from the audience. The wall expands the full width of the arena and or stadium. The wild animation that you see here is projected onto the wall during this time. Cutouts on the wall appear here and there to expose Roger and or David singing. Roger Waters last toured with the wall in 2013... No Gilmour of course, they had long since broken up. But it was every bit as big and extravagant. (clip) ua-cam.com/video/qU7JLU9Hnkk/v-deo.htmlsi=tY6ZiiybAQcsa4uX
It wasn't just his Dad dying that affected him. It's the fact he grew up in the era of the war that took his Dad too, he seen how little his Dad's life seemed to mean to those at the top. He seen the fascism in society that caused it all. Then the fact his Mum over protected him, lead him to struggle with social skills. Having a wife cheat on you. Being in a band constantly touring, record companies constantly pushing, are all players in the reason for him losing it.
had a childhood friend who took his own life and in his note , which his Mom let me read , he asked that the lyrics to Goodbye Cruel World be on his headstone . I guarantee the music will never be heard the same after seeing this
When this film was new computer animation was just getting started. But in terms of hand-drawn animation it is difficult to find a more impressive sample. It was a hand colored in a much more subtle way than most cel animation is, and frequently at very high frame rates. Scarfe is a psychotic genius.
That was his wife cheating on him, not his mom. His dad dying didn't haunt him as much as just leaving a huge emotional void in his life. His mom shut him out and gave him no comfort.
I’d say that his mom gave him too much comfort. Smothering him. Overcompensating for his lack of a father. “Mother’s going to check out all your girlfriends for you…”
That's far from the truth about his Mum. His Mum over protected him because of what happened to his Dad, too much comforting. She never let him spread his wings... Which is exactly what the song 'Mother' is about.
@@AD270479 Controlling and comfort are two different things. When the rat makes Pink sick, he crawled into bed with his mom and she rolled away and gave him the cold shoulder. Then his wive did the same thing. She left him alone in the park. She ignored him in the garden, His only friend was a sick rat, he was alone to play with bullets. He was alone at the dance. Later, he was alone on tour.
Absolutely not. If anything his mother was overprotective, shielding him from any life experience after his father died. Leaving him completely unequipped to face life as an adult.
Saw this in a theatre when it was first released, Wednesday afternoon, just me and a friend in the entire theatre, asked the projectionist to turn it up, he did, we were stoned immaculate and we still followed the story line.....c'mon fellas!
The guy acting as Floyd character is the "Saint" Bob Geldof, the mastermind behind Live Aid concerts back in the 80s. Musician and leader of the rock group Boomtown Rats. Hats off for his huge humanitarian contribution against hunger and poverty in Africa. Also the person who convinced Pink Floyd members to reunite for one last concert in Live 8 on 2005, as a favor they owed to him for his role in the Wall movie. 😊
To your point on the dad dieing in war effecting him. Generational trama is a thing. My father had two head injuries and severe ptsd from the army. Growing up with that in the house deffently affected me and the way I interact with people and secondhand ptsd symptoms that rubbed off as it was normal in my life as a kid.
I connected with this album a lot. As though my dad came home, he was never who he was before, and not fully home. You can see the difference in his eyes in photos.
The phone call was Pink calling his wife while he was out on tour in the US. She’s cheating on him with that dude, that’s why the guy just hangs up on him. So, that just becomes another “brick” in his wall of isolation.
I read that Bob Geldof, the guy playing Pink, actually refused to bandage his hand until shooting was over. That's why you see him with a bleeding hand in every shot. And him cutting his hand on the glass wasn't even scripted. That guy really hurt himself during that rampage.
What a _fucking chad._ My only hope is that they still do things like this when making movies, today, with the actor willingly doing stuff like that, without being told by the director to do that scene in that very specific manner.
On this date in 1980, PINK FLOYD's album THE WALL went to No. 1 on the Billboard Top 200 Album Chart (Jan 18, 1980). COMFORTABLY NUMB NOTE: I've put together this edit that combines live concert footage with scenes from the 1982 film 'The Wall'. Roger Waters wrote the lyrics. While many people thought the song was about drugs, Waters claims it is not. The lyrics are about what he felt like as a child when he was sick with a fever. As an adult, he got that feeling again sometimes, entering a state of delirium, where he felt detached from reality. He told Mojo magazine (December 2009) that the lines, "When I was a child I had a fever/My hands felt just like two balloons" were autobiographical. He explained: "I remember having the flu or something, an infection with a temperature of 105 and being delirious. It wasn't like the hands looked like balloons, but they looked way too big, frightening. A lot of people think those lines are about masturbation. God knows why." In a radio interview around 1980 with Jim Ladd from KLOS in Los Angeles, Waters said part of the song is about the time he got hepatitis but didn't know it. Pink Floyd had to do a show that night in Philadelphia, and the doctor Roger saw gave him a sedative to help the pain, thinking it was a stomach disorder. At the show, Roger's hands were numb "like two toy balloons." He was unable to focus, but also realized the fans didn't care because they were so busy screaming, hence "comfortably" numb. He said most of The Wall is about alienation between the audience and band. Exploring further, Mojo asked Waters about the line, "That'll keep you going through the show," referring to getting medicated before going on-stage. He explained: "That comes from a specific show at the Spectrum in Philadelphia (June 29, 1977). I had stomach cramps so bad that I thought I wasn't able to go on. A doctor backstage gave me a shot of something that I swear to God would have killed a f---ing elephant. I did the whole show hardly able to raise my hand above my knee. He said it was a muscular relaxant. But it rendered me almost insensible. It was so bad that at the end of the show, the audience was baying for more. I couldn't do it. They did the encore about me." Dave Gilmour wrote the music while he was working on a solo album in 1978. He brought it to The Wall sessions and Waters wrote lyrics for it. Gilmour believes this song can be divided into two sections: dark and light. The light are the parts that begin "When I was a child...," which Gilmour sings. The dark are the "Hello, is there anybody in there" parts, which are sung by Waters. Waters and Gilmour had an argument over which version of this to use on the album. They ended up editing two takes together as a compromise. Dave Gilmour said in Guitar World February 1993: "Well, there were two recordings of that, which me and Roger argued about. I'd written it when I was doing my first solo album [David Gilmour, 1978]. We changed the key of the song's opening the E to B, I think. The verse stayed exactly the same. Then we had to add a little bit, because Roger wanted to do the line, 'I have become comfortably numb.' Other than that, it was very, very simple to write. But the arguments on it were about how it should be mixed and which track we should use. We'd done one track with Nick Mason an drums that I thought was too rough and sloppy. We had another go at it and I thought that the second take was better. Roger disagreed. It was more an ego thing than anything else. We really went head to head with each other over such a minor thing. I probably couldn't tell the difference if you put both versions on a record today. But, anyway, it wound up with us taking a fill out of one version and putting it into another version." This was the last song Waters and Gilmour wrote together. In 1986 Waters left the band and felt there should be no Pink Floyd without him. When they played this on The Wall tour, a 35-foot wall was erected between the band and the audience as part of the show. As the wall went up, Gilmour was raised above it on a hydraulic lift to perform the guitar solo while Waters was spotlighted in front of the wall below. It was Gilmour's favorite part of the show. In the movie The Wall, this plays in a scene where the main character, a rock star named "Pink," loses his mind and enters a catatonic state before a show. It was similar to what Syd Barrett, an original member of the band, went through in 1968 when he became mentally ill and was kicked out of the band. This song is the final step in Pink's (Roger Water's) transformation into the Neo-Nazi, fascist character you see in the movie The Wall. Medics and the band manager come in and give Pink a shot to pull him out of his catatonic stupor, the manager pays protesting Meds some cash to shut up and let him take Pink to the concert in the state he's in (obviously a threat to his health, but the Meds, who probably don't make enough money, accept). In the movie Pink begins to melt on the way there, and underneath he finds that he is the cruel, fascist model of a Nazi party representative by the time he arrives at the concert. Supporting this, afterwards are the songs "The Show Must Go On" (Pink realizing as he gets to the show that there isn't really any turning back, and he's forced to go on-stage), "In the Flesh II" (the redone version of the first song on the album, now with Nazi-Pink singing, threatening random minorities), and "Run Like Hell" (after the crowd, loving nazi-Pink, has been whipped into a frenzy, now hunting minorities in the street, much like late 1930 Germany). While it does seem that this is a song about the "joy of heroin," it has little, if any connection to heroin even if it's condition resembles that of somebody who's totally wasted. Gilmour's second guitar solo on "Comfortably Numb" regularly appears in Best Guitar Solo of All Time polls. In an August 2006 poll by viewers of TV music channel Planet Rock it was voted the greatest guitar solo of all time. For the solo, the Pink Floyd guitarist used a heavy pick on his Fender Strat with maple neck through a Big Muff and delay via a Hiwatt amp and a Yamaha RA-200 rotating speaker cabinet. Gilmour told Guitar World that the solo didn't take long to develop: "I just went out into the studio and banged out 5 or 6 solos. From there I just followed my usual procedure, which is to listen back to each solo and mark out bar lines, saying which bits are good. In other words, I make a chart, putting ticks and crosses on different bars as I count through: two ticks if it's really good, one tick if it's good and cross if it's no go. Then I just follow the chart, whipping one fader up, then another fader, jumping from phrase to phrase and trying to make a really nice solo all the way through. That's the way we did it on 'Comfortably Numb.' It wasn't that difficult. But sometimes you find yourself jumping from one note to another in an impossible way. Then you have to go to another place and find a transition that sounds more natural."
17:42 it's not just his dad dying in the war. It's his smothering mother, his abusive teachers, his cheating wife, his out of control and blinded fans following him like he's the messiah. He's really messed up, mentally.
If you don’t know the story behind this concept album you’ll be lost watching this movie. Also yall need subtitles. I knew the story the first time and my jaw was dropped watching everything come to life and seeing little pieces come together.
By the way, the actor who plays Pink in the film is Bob Geldof, singer of Boomtown Rats - a new wave band that had one-hit wonder: "I don't like Mondays" - but is best remembered as the main organizer of the 1985 Live Aid concert. Twenty years later, Bob did the impossible: he managed to gather the classic Pink Floyd lineup (David, Rick, Roger and Nick) for the Live 8 concert. It was the last time Pink Floyd played live.
So cool to see you guys adventure into this. Listening to the album alone is amazing but to watch the movie changes things. So much interpretation but you guys are on the right track. Glad you took the adventure.
I had one of those destructive episodes. My mother had just died of cancer after a year an a half. I had just graduated college was still living at home and could not find work in my chosen career. When I would get home from job hunting I would cook for my sister, her kids and my father. They got on me one night for not preparing a side dish. That triggered me for some reason and years of pent up rage burst out. I started whizzing plates against the walls and smashing glasses. Everyone fled until I was done sitting in the debris. My sister and I cried afterward over our loss.
It's basically Rodger Waters, the man who wrote the album life story. During those days most of England's rock and roll artists had lost their fathers in World War II are you getting this yet
Right after the scene of the two flowers with the female killing the male flower. At this point is a focal point in Pink's change of character. He is looking for ways to fill the empty spaces in the wall because he has just been betrayed. He also said how do we go to life looking for more Applause and Applause. So he is seeking gratitude and needs attention. He's always searching for need and attention
Everyone keeps missing Pink not showing his wife the affection she needs leaving her feeling alone in the marriage. Their marriage was already over when pink was calling her. Since when would someone having an affair let the secret lover answer the phone? Pink Is mad at himself as he knows he messed up which is why he destroyed any and all things in the room that dares to show him his reflection. Peace/JT
I will tell you boys this, most of us old fellas listen to Pink Floyd and most the time we were high or tripping on LSD. Pink Floyd's music is all made upon expanding your mind. All LSD did was allow bigger in expansion. When you listen to Pink Floyd no matter what album including the wall. You must be high or tripping to allow your mind to expand to see the clear picture. If you watch this movie, without mind expanding drugs, it will take you longer to understand what it is all about. Just my opinion. I'm glad you guys made this video
It was his overprotective, smothering Mother and the combination of her and losing his Father in the war....PLUS, an astronomical amount of fame on top of it all that makes it so difficult for him to cope....that's why he built the wall around himself....causing virtually ANY relationship to fail: because he just cannot handle it. He doesn't even understand himself: much less the world...and, doesn't want to be apart of it all, anymore. At least that's what I felt about this movie.... Keep in mind, Fellas: Pink's Mom in this movie is the very large, dark-haired person you see when he is young...and, because Pink is all she had left in the world: she WAY overprotected him... Most every shot in this section you just watched is about Pink - not his mother....he's struggling to cope.
My interpretation is that after Pink's (Waters') father is killed in the war, Pink withdraws into himself and puts up a wall, which makes it impossible to function normally and have relationships. Pink begins to morph into a right wing dictator type personality (but, in the end, which you haven't seen yet, judges himself and rejects what he has become, thus tearing down the wall in the end).
Not only did they put a movie on the music they also put the music on another movie called wizard of Oz when the lion roars you start the album Dark side of the moon. Some people call that The dark side of wizard of Oz
Watching someone struggle through this movie, knowing they haven't listened to the album time after time... I guess it’s like someone watching a movie that hasn’t 'read the book'!!!
yall killin me lol, the kid grew up to be a famous musician...its literally the story of roger waters...all the things he went through to build up a wall to protect the innocent little kid version of himself continues even as an adult
give them a break they are american watching a british movie that was not understood by some british people, it takes time for some people to understand whats going on
The Doctor was at the house (a house call) checking on him as a sick child. The Mom looked at the Doctor with concern for her little boy. No hanky panky. Later on adult Mr. Floyd is on tour in the US trying to call his cheating wife, but the other man keeps answering and hanging up. Her way of telling him it’s over without having to. 😊
So the red headed lady he called was his wife. She cheated on him. His mother was not screwing the dr, she just went out of the room to talk to him. Roger Waters (who was the bass player for Floyd as well as one of the lead singers)his father died in WW2 and a lot of his albums are about that. A lot of songs from the album The Final Cut are in this movie as well.
Didn’t you guys react to the album already? It’s his mother the big fat overbearing lady and the one from the “registry office” is his wife. I hope you guys enjoyed it! I love Floyd reactions.
Syd Barret was dropped because he was almost always on acid. They replaced him with Guilmor. "Wish you were here" is the album dedicated to Syd Barrett. The Wall is all about Roger Waters.
This was how Roger Waters was affected by his dad's death in WW II. It had little to do with Syd Barrett who had exited the band long before "The Wall" was written, by Roger Waters...
The character Pink is partly based on Roger Waters childhood and Syd Barret who was the first frontman of Pink Floyd who sadly went crazy most likely due to an overdose of psychedlic drugs in 1968. That would explain Pink`s emptyness and insanity.
the movie was done by a really great british director, he made the movie from the album. Well done for getting through it, its a deep dark subject but worth every minute of watching.
When someone watches the movie The Wall each person has its own personal connection to it. When you fellows see his mother and the doctor together you automatically think that the doctor is doing it with his mother. I think this is your own personal interpretation of what you are seeing. My personal interpretation is that he got screwed over by his old lady that he allowed into his space. She was able to get through the one area of the wall that wasn't closed off. After she screwed him over that was the final Brick in the Wall. So he reverts, and he actually gives himself an alter ego to deal with it all like a second personality. Just my opinion. Maybe something happened in your mother's life that makes you perceive this that way that is the whole potential and point of watching and listening to Pink Floyd
This isn't about his mother getting "porked" as far as the album and film goes never remarries or anything like that. But rather is overprotecting of young Pink because of her losing her husband in the war. The "flowers" is about all recriminations in Pink's own marriage, as well as the drugs and sex available to Pink as a rock star, and is part of the milieu of all the empty things that only add to his isolation and are all just more "bricks" in his "wall". Also, yes, he loves Tom & Jerry, which features a mouse as the protagonist, and he also wears a classic Mickey Mouse watch, and it all ties back to his finding and wanting to keep sick rat as a pet in his youth, that his mother demands he take out of the house and which later dies, and also may have been why he got deathly ill as a child, etc. Nothing in this film is there by chance.
It is rough to make sense because it is 2 different time periods. It is not tough when you compare and relate to hypocrites. He is looking at current times and also back in times. Who is honest? Who to trust?
I want you guys go through most of this movie and still not realize that he is a rock and roll artist. He is just like a rock and roll stars who have groupie women hanging out trying to get backstage passes to party with the band members and Roadies. But I hear you say always got all these guitars. He's a rock and roll star. Get it yet
Gentlemen, this mom- doctor thing is not a thing. You've gone down the wrong path. 😏 It's him, Pink. He's on tour in America and trying to get in touch with his wife back in England...turns out she's sleeping with another man.
I’m glad that you’re going through this process. I watched the movie when it was first released, and enjoyed it. As a project of its own, I think it’s pretty good, but the music itself is the real deal and should be processed separately. As with other endeavors of its kind, the images become too specific and literal, where the music allows for more personal expansion. But good for you guys, in taking up a challenge of this nature. I look forward to seeing what else you do with this channel.
This mostly an account of Roger Waters' life and feelings, with elements of Syd Barrett's life as well. Syd was the one who went off the deep end when drugs exasperated his mental illness. The father dying in the war, the mother being overprotective, the rigid schooling, the wife cheating was all Roger. Looking forward to part 4!
Laa and Chee, if you guys are gonna do movies, take a look at Mad Dogs and Englishmen. Joe Cocker and Leon Russel. Leon put together and all-time great all star band of top shelf musicians. Great concert film.
He is watching the dam busters movie, I only recognized it because the dog is a black Labrador called, well I can't say it without getting a commenting ban but it starts with n.
No no no. Not the mom. That is Pink and his wife In Real Time. When you see teen with mom that is still another flashback. Pink is a Rock Star and the groupies are coming to find him while his wife is back in the UK with the Eco Protester dude.
YAY!!! i am so luving THIS!!! so very **HappyDelighted** ya two are doing this...ya both SO **ROCK!!!** **Thank YOU** ever so MUCH! **PixieHugz&LuvzALL**
In this visual riff on Pink Floyd's album "The Wall," successful but drugged-out musician Pink (Bob Geldof) is looking back on his isolated childhood from the confines of a Los Angeles hotel room. Through a swirl of flashbacks and chemical-induced hallucinations, Pink recalls his lonely upbringing, during which he built a symbolic wall to the world as he coped with the death of his father (James Laurenson) and the overbearing ways of his mother (Christine Hargreaves) I think Roger Waters the bass player was able to write this because he identified a lot with the main Character Also his last Album he did with Pink Floyd "the Final Cut" has al0ot of this concept but more geared to the 80's Wars and political issues of that time.
Me costo años entender esta pelicula (mi favorita) desde los 12 años viendola jajaja... Retrocede y avanza en diferentes etapas, le marca la muerte de su padre, su infancia en el colegio y la vida con su esposa ❤ saludos desze chile
The next scene is pink on the road after pretty much finding out that his wife is cheating on him, going crazy and just hanging out with any woman he can
Nooooo! It's not the mum! The mum is the huge woman from the 1950s. His wife is the gorgeous redhead from the 70s. She's finally given up on him and has gone off with a CND (Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament) guy.
That was his wife cheating, not his mom. "Mother, is SHE good enough for me." Anytime you see Bob Geldoff as Pink, you are either current or near current time. The Mom stuff is all old time. The shaving thing is something the original lead singer did in his mental illness ling after leaving the band.
Your misconceptions about what this story (album) is about are exactly the reason why I always recommend listening thoroughly to the album and its lyrics many, many times before watching the movie. So you can form a coherent picture in your mind of what the message is, before having it complicated and distorted by visuals.
Absolutely. I'm always baffled when I hear people come on of here talking about how they should just watch the movie instead of listening to the album because that will explain everything. LOL What movie are they talking about!? These guys like most reactors listen to things once and move on to something else. Absolutely no way to comprehend such a complex and challenging story and format first time around. Album *or* movie.
@@flubblert indeed. Like someone in the comments below saying 'you have got to see the movie to appreciate the album ' ... wtf? No. Exactly the other way around! Or you'll think the redhead is Pink's mother f**king the 1940s doctor through some weird timeloop. I despair for humanity based on these individuals intelligence. Oh well.
@@rmyikzelf5604I think a lot of it comes from the fact that these guys probably weren’t exposed to this kind of visual storytelling much when they were younger. I’ve noticed that a lot of younger reactors & reactors that didn’t grow up with videos (like MTV) seem to get really thrown by visual imagery & don’t put things together very well. It’s a different kind of thinking & if one’s not exposed to it very often, it takes a lot more work to understand.
Keep in mind this would be before cable tv and HBO. The tv probably has 4 stations, and Tom and Jerry is probably on one of them all day. The other stations would all be similar shows.
Also,,,,, they probably had to pay a studio for the rights to use the characters. Why do that more than once? I doubt Mickey Mouse or Bugs Bunny were available for such a questionable movie.
Guys guys…no. He’s on tour and his wife cheats on him with a guy from the peace movement that she was involved with. So that’s his wife sleeping with another man when Pink calls and the operator says there’s a man answering… it’s not really hard to understand here. I guess one has to be able to follow a non-linear narrative. It is a bit muddled in parts, but you’re way off the track. And no, his mother isn’t sleeping with the doctor, he’s just doing a house call and conferring with the mother as to the diagnosis concerning young Pink’s illness and it’s going to tie in with lines from Comfortably Numb etc….his Mom is not “getting porked” the sexual references in the movie all deal with Pink, the main character as a kid, on tour etc…
OMFG, watching these 2 guys trying to understand this film is hurting my brain. When you thought that the bit with the wife cheating on Pink was his mother in bed with the doctor I nearly threw a shoe at my screen. Maybe read a quick plot synopsis of the film on Wikipedia before watching any more so you don't get so confused? You'll enjoy the movie more if you do.
P.S. The screenplay for this was written by Pink Floyd's **Roger Waters** his father was killed in WW2 so pretty sure it is at least semi-autobiographical (if not fully) & not about **Syd Barrett** who had mental issues which were made worse or came about because of his excessive heavy drug use
The madness portrayed in The Wall is absolutely inspired by Syd Barrett's real life mental breakdown early on. Syd was Roger's childhood friend, and his mental break effected him deeply. The character Pink is an amalgam of both Roger and Syd.
@@flubblert Gotcha **Thank You** for the correction i do know about Pink Floyd rather extensively but i got into them when i was like 9 years old & Syd was no longer a part of the band at that time i learned about him later in my life so when i saw this film when i was 10 years old i had no clue about Syd i am as i said much more educated now on them but **Thank You** once again **RockON!!!** **PixieTwirls**
@@CosmicVagabondPixie yeah, 10 is a little early to be fully aware of all the background of this band. In his current tour Roger talks about how the loss of Syd under such circumstances so deeply affected him... almost to the extent that he felt on the verge of going over the edge himself at one point. No comprehensive understanding of Pink Floyd can exist without understanding how what happened to Syd informed Roger's writing throughout the mid and late 70s, their most productive era. From Dark Side, to Wish You Were Here, and culminating with The Wall. "You lock the door, and throw away the key, There's someone in my head but it's not me. - "Brain Damaged"
@@flubblert WoW yea i just so luv Roger Waters as a Human Being & a very troubled Genius so mostly i have always gravitated toward him since as i said 1st listening to them at 9 i connected with him & course i luv David Gilmour cuz yea his guitar just makes me cry tis otherworldly & even tho i have read about Syd Barrett i kinda i guess had it in my head even up to right before your comment that their homage to him was ONLY with "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" & maybe "Wish You Were Here" & that was the extent of it so yea now i know & Thank You for that! i am guessing ya prolly know almost EVERYthing about them which is way Awesome! **PixieTwirls**
@@CosmicVagabondPixie I've always felt ‘Dark Side of the Moon’ was a metaphor for dark side of the brain, or mind. David Gilmour sings lead on nearly the entire album save “great gig in the sky” of course. The one song Roger leaves for himself to sing lead, comes at the end with “Brain Damaged”. That's not a coincidence imo. It is the one song that references Syd directly and their childhood friendship… “remembering games, and daisy chains and laughs, got to keep the loonies on the path”. Although the song definitely has political implications as well. Musically speaking I love both Roger and Dave equally. I don't think either of their artistry would have achieved such heights without the other's input. The soulful heartfelt way in which Gilmour interprets Roger’s penetrating poetic lyrics both on vocals and guitar, cannot be overstated.
Yeah guys listen this whole thing is about the main character. His Wife is actually cheating on him and his love for her is dying after that, that's what the animes of the flowers were depicting. Got it?
He lost his father to the war. He is blaming government, his mother for her ways, and he is starting to hate everyone and building up "his wall" to keep everyone out.
I realise it's pointless to say this at this point, but dudes, this is SO frustrating. NO! That's not his mother, that's his wife!! She's cheating on him! His mother is only in the scenes with Pink as a little boy. I'm shouting at the screen here. FIgure it out! Please! I still have 29 minutes to go!
To recap what was actually going on in this clip: Pink was at the piano, ignoring his wife. While on tour, Pink's wife meets a guy at a nuclear disarmament rally and begins an affair with him. Pink tries calling her from the road and the man answers the phone. Pink now knows she's cheating on him. After a concert, a groupie follows Pink back to his hotel room. As she tries to seduce him, his anger at his wife erupts and he destroys the hotel room and scares the groupie away. Pink then lays around dwelling upon his wife's infidelity.
The mother is always the older, big woman. The father is always shown at war. Neither of them are ever shown in other stages of their lives.
Thanks. Seems like they'd never get it without the comments.
@@rmyikzelf5604 ikr, why is so difficult for them?
@@edwardilowiecki8925 because... it just IS?
I remember not getting the whole thing together after a few times of watching (and just enjoying). Took help from an explaining article and some more times watching the movie. I've never met anyone who got through all the connections, metaphors and symbols by watching the movie the first time without any explanations. And if you are honest, neither did you, right?
I sure didn't. And that's what makes this band's work so rewarding. Every revisit of their albums and films is a revelation of something new. As you grow, your perspective changes, and great art keeps up with you: challenging/rewarding you with new connections and insights into yourself.
@timkohler3923 I listened to the album dozens of times, alone with the lyrics in front of me, before watching the movie. Discussed it with friends. So, yes, I agree. One superficial listening will not be enough to get it. Or even scratch the surface. (And that's why in my comments to reactors to music from the wall, I always recommend not watching the movie before they have a more or less coherent idea in their mind on what the F it is about)
His mother did not sleep with the doctor, the girl he was watching with the binoculars, and dancing with, was his future wife, who then cheated on him with the guy from the protest rally,
so then he decided to take the groupie home, but he is too immersed in his own grief to actually care about sex. You must remember that he grew up after WW2 when so many fathers
in England had died, there was violence, and protests in backlash against the leaders, and the youth were coming of age in a time of change, and upheaval from a time of relative past calm.
He holds Hitler, and The British King, "Kind Ole King George" responsible for his fathers death. He makes a mockery of himself as the front man of a rock group by comparison as a
Hitler rally, showing that people can be led to blindly follow others, no matter what the message is, just to fit in with society around them. He is disillusioned by the world in which he lives.
However, he eventually realizes it is him, and each of us that must take personal responsibility for our actions, and we can only judge ourselves, and do the right thing.
Well said ❣️
"The inevitable pinhole burns." I remember in the 60's and 70's, no matter how well we'd cleaned our weed, we'd inevitably get pinhole burns on our shirts from popping seeds.
In the UK we mainly smoked hashish, from India or North Africa, and if you didn't crumble it enough mixing with the tobacco "hot rocks" would fall out of your spliff and make pin-hole burns in your clothes.
Thanks, for the explanation. I always wondered what that line was referring to
Hasn't changed that much. I own many a t-shirt with "moth holes"
@@andymccracken4046 Yeah it's hash, he's even smoking hash at some point in the movie...
I had MANY inevitable pinhole burns on most of my shirts in the 90's.
As a teenager in the 1980s, the Wall, both album and movie, really spoke to me. Through all my teenage angst, I wouldn’t say I ever felt suicidal. But I could totally identify with Pink’s decision to put up a wall around himself to totally disassociate himself from the world
Me too. Heard it in 1986 when I was 16 and I knew it would be significant in my life. It was and still is the most important album for and to me. ❤
@@mattleppard1964 I also turned 16 in 1986!
@@wdrauch It’s a good time to hear it first. It spoke directly to me and resonated so deeply that it remains one of my all-time favorite albums. The music is sensational too, of course ❤️
one MUST see the movie to appreciate the album - and its encouraged to see it more than once . watch it until you "get " it
Or get some shrooms and just play the movie all night on a loop.
I was gonna say acid. Lol
Brings back so many memories.
I completely disagree. One must develop an understanding of the album to appreciate the movie.
The Wall concept and story is written by Roger Waters - the band's bass player, co-vocalist, and conceptual leader during this era of Pink Floyd. He is considered one of the top lyricist in all of rock. The Wall story is an amalgam of Roger (whose father was killed in the 2nd world war), and Syd Barrett, the band's co-founder and childhood friend of Roger's who actually did go mad early on and was dropped from the band before they barely got started. Roger never quite got over either of these tragedies, and while he visits subjects of madness and war during previous Floyd abums, it really all comes spilling out in this rock opera masterpiece. Not a fun story for sure, but a brilliant achievement in the annals of Rock that will most likely never ever be repeated.
There's a really good interview with Roger Waters on WTF podcast.. I found it amazing to hear his story..he talks about how he conceived 'Us And Them '
It's great watching this along with you guys! One thing though, is that it wasn't his mom that was with that guy in bed, it was his wife cheating on him while he was on tour. She cheated because he got increasingly distant while he was home. She wanted to be intimate and all he wanted to do was watch the soccer game. This section is mainly about his wife and him growing apart and him blaming her becoming part of his wall. That's why he broke down while the groupie was there. He was thinking of his wife cheating on him. The TV always has some sort of war movie on which symbolizes how his father dying in the war is always weighing on him in the back of his mind.
When The Wall is performed live in concert a 35 ft tall wall is slowly constructed across the front part of the stage until the band is eventually completely walled off from the audience. The wall expands the full width of the arena and or stadium. The wild animation that you see here is projected onto the wall during this time. Cutouts on the wall appear here and there to expose Roger and or David singing. Roger Waters last toured with the wall in 2013... No Gilmour of course, they had long since broken up. But it was every bit as big and extravagant.
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I got to see both. 1980 at Nassau and 2012 in Hartford.
@@jonathansmith3742 Cool!!
"mother did it need to be so high?" is such a brilliant lyric (amongst so many in the album).
"Momma's gonna help build
The WALL!!!"
It wasn't just his Dad dying that affected him. It's the fact he grew up in the era of the war that took his Dad too, he seen how little his Dad's life seemed to mean to those at the top. He seen the fascism in society that caused it all. Then the fact his Mum over protected him, lead him to struggle with social skills. Having a wife cheat on you. Being in a band constantly touring, record companies constantly pushing, are all players in the reason for him losing it.
The flower animation part has one of the best songs not on the original album. Love that part! Its amazing haha
Listen to the 1980 live concert. There's more where this came from.
had a childhood friend who took his own life and in his note , which his Mom let me read , he asked that the lyrics to Goodbye Cruel World be on his headstone . I guarantee the music will never be heard the same after seeing this
The animation was impressive at the time. State of the art.
When this film was new computer animation was just getting started. But in terms of hand-drawn animation it is difficult to find a more impressive sample. It was a hand colored in a much more subtle way than most cel animation is, and frequently at very high frame rates. Scarfe is a psychotic genius.
That was his wife cheating on him, not his mom.
His dad dying didn't haunt him as much as just leaving a huge emotional void in his life.
His mom shut him out and gave him no comfort.
I’d say that his mom gave him too much comfort. Smothering him. Overcompensating for his lack of a father. “Mother’s going to check out all your girlfriends for you…”
That's far from the truth about his Mum. His Mum over protected him because of what happened to his Dad, too much comforting. She never let him spread his wings... Which is exactly what the song 'Mother' is about.
@@AD270479 Controlling and comfort are two different things. When the rat makes Pink sick, he crawled into bed with his mom and she rolled away and gave him the cold shoulder. Then his wive did the same thing.
She left him alone in the park. She ignored him in the garden, His only friend was a sick rat, he was alone to play with bullets. He was alone at the dance.
Later, he was alone on tour.
Absolutely not. If anything his mother was overprotective, shielding him from any life experience after his father died. Leaving him completely unequipped to face life as an adult.
Yeah, basically what I said. 🙄
Saw this in a theatre when it was first released, Wednesday afternoon, just me and a friend in the entire theatre, asked the projectionist to turn it up, he did, we were stoned immaculate and we still followed the story line.....c'mon fellas!
The guy acting as Floyd character is the "Saint" Bob Geldof, the mastermind behind Live Aid concerts back in the 80s. Musician and leader of the rock group Boomtown Rats. Hats off for his huge humanitarian contribution against hunger and poverty in Africa.
Also the person who convinced Pink Floyd members to reunite for one last concert in Live 8 on 2005, as a favor they owed to him for his role in the Wall movie. 😊
To your point on the dad dieing in war effecting him. Generational trama is a thing. My father had two head injuries and severe ptsd from the army. Growing up with that in the house deffently affected me and the way I interact with people and secondhand ptsd symptoms that rubbed off as it was normal in my life as a kid.
I connected with this album a lot. As though my dad came home, he was never who he was before, and not fully home. You can see the difference in his eyes in photos.
The phone call was Pink calling his wife while he was out on tour in the US. She’s cheating on him with that dude, that’s why the guy just hangs up on him. So, that just becomes another “brick” in his wall of isolation.
I read that Bob Geldof, the guy playing Pink, actually refused to bandage his hand until shooting was over. That's why you see him with a bleeding hand in every shot. And him cutting his hand on the glass wasn't even scripted. That guy really hurt himself during that rampage.
What a _fucking chad._
My only hope is that they still do things like this when making movies, today, with the actor willingly doing stuff like that, without being told by the director to do that scene in that very specific manner.
On this date in 1980, PINK FLOYD's album THE WALL went to No. 1 on the Billboard Top 200 Album Chart (Jan 18, 1980).
COMFORTABLY NUMB
NOTE: I've put together this edit that combines live concert footage with scenes from the 1982 film 'The Wall'.
Roger Waters wrote the lyrics. While many people thought the song was about drugs, Waters claims it is not.
The lyrics are about what he felt like as a child when he was sick with a fever. As an adult, he got that feeling again sometimes, entering a state of delirium, where he felt detached from reality.
He told Mojo magazine (December 2009) that the lines, "When I was a child I had a fever/My hands felt just like two balloons" were autobiographical.
He explained: "I remember having the flu or something, an infection with a temperature of 105 and being delirious. It wasn't like the hands looked like balloons, but they looked way too big, frightening. A lot of people think those lines are about masturbation. God knows why."
In a radio interview around 1980 with Jim Ladd from KLOS in Los Angeles, Waters said part of the song is about the time he got hepatitis but didn't know it. Pink Floyd had to do a show that night in Philadelphia, and the doctor Roger saw gave him a sedative to help the pain, thinking it was a stomach disorder. At the show, Roger's hands were numb "like two toy balloons." He was unable to focus, but also realized the fans didn't care because they were so busy screaming, hence "comfortably" numb. He said most of The Wall is about alienation between the audience and band.
Exploring further, Mojo asked Waters about the line, "That'll keep you going through the show," referring to getting medicated before going on-stage. He explained: "That comes from a specific show at the Spectrum in Philadelphia (June 29, 1977). I had stomach cramps so bad that I thought I wasn't able to go on. A doctor backstage gave me a shot of something that I swear to God would have killed a f---ing elephant. I did the whole show hardly able to raise my hand above my knee. He said it was a muscular relaxant. But it rendered me almost insensible. It was so bad that at the end of the show, the audience was baying for more. I couldn't do it. They did the encore about me."
Dave Gilmour wrote the music while he was working on a solo album in 1978. He brought it to The Wall sessions and Waters wrote lyrics for it.
Gilmour believes this song can be divided into two sections: dark and light. The light are the parts that begin "When I was a child...," which Gilmour sings. The dark are the "Hello, is there anybody in there" parts, which are sung by Waters.
Waters and Gilmour had an argument over which version of this to use on the album. They ended up editing two takes together as a compromise. Dave Gilmour said in Guitar World February 1993: "Well, there were two recordings of that, which me and Roger argued about. I'd written it when I was doing my first solo album [David Gilmour, 1978]. We changed the key of the song's opening the E to B, I think. The verse stayed exactly the same. Then we had to add a little bit, because Roger wanted to do the line, 'I have become comfortably numb.' Other than that, it was very, very simple to write. But the arguments on it were about how it should be mixed and which track we should use. We'd done one track with Nick Mason an drums that I thought was too rough and sloppy. We had another go at it and I thought that the second take was better. Roger disagreed. It was more an ego thing than anything else. We really went head to head with each other over such a minor thing. I probably couldn't tell the difference if you put both versions on a record today. But, anyway, it wound up with us taking a fill out of one version and putting it into another version."
This was the last song Waters and Gilmour wrote together. In 1986 Waters left the band and felt there should be no Pink Floyd without him.
When they played this on The Wall tour, a 35-foot wall was erected between the band and the audience as part of the show. As the wall went up, Gilmour was raised above it on a hydraulic lift to perform the guitar solo while Waters was spotlighted in front of the wall below. It was Gilmour's favorite part of the show.
In the movie The Wall, this plays in a scene where the main character, a rock star named "Pink," loses his mind and enters a catatonic state before a show. It was similar to what Syd Barrett, an original member of the band, went through in 1968 when he became mentally ill and was kicked out of the band.
This song is the final step in Pink's (Roger Water's) transformation into the Neo-Nazi, fascist character you see in the movie The Wall. Medics and the band manager come in and give Pink a shot to pull him out of his catatonic stupor, the manager pays protesting Meds some cash to shut up and let him take Pink to the concert in the state he's in (obviously a threat to his health, but the Meds, who probably don't make enough money, accept). In the movie Pink begins to melt on the way there, and underneath he finds that he is the cruel, fascist model of a Nazi party representative by the time he arrives at the concert. Supporting this, afterwards are the songs "The Show Must Go On" (Pink realizing as he gets to the show that there isn't really any turning back, and he's forced to go on-stage), "In the Flesh II" (the redone version of the first song on the album, now with Nazi-Pink singing, threatening random minorities), and "Run Like Hell" (after the crowd, loving nazi-Pink, has been whipped into a frenzy, now hunting minorities in the street, much like late 1930 Germany). While it does seem that this is a song about the "joy of heroin," it has little, if any connection to heroin even if it's condition resembles that of somebody who's totally wasted.
Gilmour's second guitar solo on "Comfortably Numb" regularly appears in Best Guitar Solo of All Time polls. In an August 2006 poll by viewers of TV music channel Planet Rock it was voted the greatest guitar solo of all time.
For the solo, the Pink Floyd guitarist used a heavy pick on his Fender Strat with maple neck through a Big Muff and delay via a Hiwatt amp and a Yamaha RA-200 rotating speaker cabinet.
Gilmour told Guitar World that the solo didn't take long to develop: "I just went out into the studio and banged out 5 or 6 solos. From there I just followed my usual procedure, which is to listen back to each solo and mark out bar lines, saying which bits are good. In other words, I make a chart, putting ticks and crosses on different bars as I count through: two ticks if it's really good, one tick if it's good and cross if it's no go. Then I just follow the chart, whipping one fader up, then another fader, jumping from phrase to phrase and trying to make a really nice solo all the way through. That's the way we did it on 'Comfortably Numb.' It wasn't that difficult. But sometimes you find yourself jumping from one note to another in an impossible way. Then you have to go to another place and find a transition that sounds more natural."
17:42 it's not just his dad dying in the war. It's his smothering mother, his abusive teachers, his cheating wife, his out of control and blinded fans following him like he's the messiah. He's really messed up, mentally.
If you don’t know the story behind this concept album you’ll be lost watching this movie. Also yall need subtitles. I knew the story the first time and my jaw was dropped watching everything come to life and seeing little pieces come together.
By the way, the actor who plays Pink in the film is Bob Geldof, singer of Boomtown Rats - a new wave band that had one-hit wonder: "I don't like Mondays" - but is best remembered as the main organizer of the 1985 Live Aid concert. Twenty years later, Bob did the impossible: he managed to gather the classic Pink Floyd lineup (David, Rick, Roger and Nick) for the Live 8 concert. It was the last time Pink Floyd played live.
So cool to see you guys adventure into this.
Listening to the album alone is amazing but to watch the movie changes things.
So much interpretation but you guys are on the right track.
Glad you took the adventure.
"Don't leave me now".... Everything he loves either dies or leaves/hurts him, His dad, mom, the rat, his wife....
I had one of those destructive episodes. My mother had just died of cancer after a year an a half. I had just graduated college was still living at home and could not find work in my chosen career. When I would get home from job hunting I would cook for my sister, her kids and my father. They got on me one night for not preparing a side dish. That triggered me for some reason and years of pent up rage burst out. I started whizzing plates against the walls and smashing glasses. Everyone fled until I was done sitting in the debris. My sister and I cried afterward over our loss.
It's basically Rodger Waters, the man who wrote the album life story. During those days most of England's rock and roll artists had lost their fathers in World War II are you getting this yet
The way the wall builds like a train is so dope
so far so good :) its a pleasure watching it with ya both.
Can’t wait you to react to the rest, keep it up! Good job and really appreciate this!
Right after the scene of the two flowers with the female killing the male flower. At this point is a focal point in Pink's change of character. He is looking for ways to fill the empty spaces in the wall because he has just been betrayed. He also said how do we go to life looking for more Applause and Applause. So he is seeking gratitude and needs attention. He's always searching for need and attention
Everyone keeps missing Pink not showing his wife the affection she needs leaving her feeling alone in the marriage. Their marriage was already over when pink was calling her. Since when would someone having an affair let the secret lover answer the phone? Pink Is mad at himself as he knows he messed up which is why he destroyed any and all things in the room that dares to show him his reflection. Peace/JT
I will tell you boys this, most of us old fellas listen to Pink Floyd and most the time we were high or tripping on LSD. Pink Floyd's music is all made upon expanding your mind. All LSD did was allow bigger in expansion. When you listen to Pink Floyd no matter what album including the wall. You must be high or tripping to allow your mind to expand to see the clear picture. If you watch this movie, without mind expanding drugs, it will take you longer to understand what it is all about. Just my opinion. I'm glad you guys made this video
It was his overprotective, smothering Mother and the combination of her and losing his Father in the war....PLUS, an astronomical amount of fame on top of it all that makes it so difficult for him to cope....that's why he built the wall around himself....causing virtually ANY relationship to fail: because he just cannot handle it. He doesn't even understand himself: much less the world...and, doesn't want to be apart of it all, anymore. At least that's what I felt about this movie.... Keep in mind, Fellas: Pink's Mom in this movie is the very large, dark-haired person you see when he is young...and, because Pink is all she had left in the world: she WAY overprotected him... Most every shot in this section you just watched is about Pink - not his mother....he's struggling to cope.
great actor Bob Hoskinsk, eternal memory
Geniuses
My interpretation is that after Pink's (Waters') father is killed in the war, Pink withdraws into himself and puts up a wall, which makes it impossible to function normally and have relationships. Pink begins to morph into a right wing dictator type personality (but, in the end, which you haven't seen yet, judges himself and rejects what he has become, thus tearing down the wall in the end).
As always, thanks, guys.
Not only did they put a movie on the music they also put the music on another movie called wizard of Oz when the lion roars you start the album Dark side of the moon. Some people call that The dark side of wizard of Oz
Great film . Love The Dambusters
Watching someone struggle through this movie, knowing they haven't listened to the album time after time...
I guess it’s like someone watching a movie that hasn’t 'read the book'!!!
Pink is looking back on all the "Bricks" in his past that have gone to building his "Wall".
yall killin me lol, the kid grew up to be a famous musician...its literally the story of roger waters...all the things he went through to build up a wall to protect the innocent little kid version of himself continues even as an adult
Exactly **Nod**
give them a break they are american watching a british movie that was not understood by some british people, it takes time for some people to understand whats going on
The gentleman who hangs up on the operator: the operator was a random person who worked at a phone company. Her reaction was genuine.❤
24:30 cool hearing they hit Echoes in there
When he shaves his eyebrows it's game on.
The Doctor was at the house (a house call) checking on him as a sick child. The Mom looked at the Doctor with concern for her little boy. No hanky panky. Later on adult Mr. Floyd is on tour in the US trying to call his cheating wife, but the other man keeps answering and hanging up. Her way of telling him it’s over without having to. 😊
So the red headed lady he called was his wife. She cheated on him. His mother was not screwing the dr, she just went out of the room to talk to him. Roger Waters (who was the bass player for Floyd as well as one of the lead singers)his father died in WW2 and a lot of his albums are about that. A lot of songs from the album The Final Cut are in this movie as well.
Didn’t you guys react to the album already? It’s his mother the big fat overbearing lady and the one from the “registry office” is his wife. I hope you guys enjoyed it! I love Floyd reactions.
Syd Barret was dropped because he was almost always on acid. They replaced him with Guilmor. "Wish you were here" is the album dedicated to Syd Barrett. The Wall is all about Roger Waters.
This was how Roger Waters was affected by his dad's death in WW II. It had little to do with Syd Barrett who had exited the band long before "The Wall" was written, by Roger Waters...
She is not the Mum as you tell, she is the "wife".
The character Pink is partly based on Roger Waters childhood and Syd Barret who was the first frontman of Pink Floyd who sadly went crazy most likely due to an overdose of psychedlic drugs in 1968. That would explain Pink`s emptyness and insanity.
When he says mother did it need to be so high. He's referring to the wall being so high that she built around him that's my opinion anyway
16:00 best room trashing scene right behind orson welles in citizen kane
the movie was done by a really great british director, he made the movie from the album. Well done for getting through it, its a deep dark subject but worth every minute of watching.
They should watch another Alan Parker film, called The Commitments. I think they’d have a great time with that movie.
And the slide towards Pinks insanity continues....
32:24 no. Not Syd Barrett. This is (semi) autobiographical Roger Waters.
When someone watches the movie The Wall each person has its own personal connection to it. When you fellows see his mother and the doctor together you automatically think that the doctor is doing it with his mother. I think this is your own personal interpretation of what you are seeing. My personal interpretation is that he got screwed over by his old lady that he allowed into his space. She was able to get through the one area of the wall that wasn't closed off. After she screwed him over that was the final Brick in the Wall. So he reverts, and he actually gives himself an alter ego to deal with it all like a second personality. Just my opinion. Maybe something happened in your mother's life that makes you perceive this that way that is the whole potential and point of watching and listening to Pink Floyd
This isn't about his mother getting "porked" as far as the album and film goes never remarries or anything like that. But rather is overprotecting of young Pink because of her losing her husband in the war. The "flowers" is about all recriminations in Pink's own marriage, as well as the drugs and sex available to Pink as a rock star, and is part of the milieu of all the empty things that only add to his isolation and are all just more "bricks" in his "wall".
Also, yes, he loves Tom & Jerry, which features a mouse as the protagonist, and he also wears a classic Mickey Mouse watch, and it all ties back to his finding and wanting to keep sick rat as a pet in his youth, that his mother demands he take out of the house and which later dies, and also may have been why he got deathly ill as a child, etc. Nothing in this film is there by chance.
It is rough to make sense because it is 2 different time periods. It is not tough when you compare and relate to hypocrites. He is looking at current times and also back in times.
Who is honest? Who to trust?
15:40 feel like every rockstar has done this st least once lol
I want you guys go through most of this movie and still not realize that he is a rock and roll artist. He is just like a rock and roll stars who have groupie women hanging out trying to get backstage passes to party with the band members and Roadies. But I hear you say always got all these guitars. He's a rock and roll star. Get it yet
Gentlemen, this mom- doctor thing is not a thing. You've gone down the wrong path. 😏
It's him, Pink. He's on tour in America and trying to get in touch with his wife back in England...turns out she's sleeping with another man.
We’ll figure it out
I’m glad that you’re going through this process. I watched the movie when it was first released, and enjoyed it. As a project of its own, I think it’s pretty good, but the music itself is the real deal and should be processed separately. As with other endeavors of its kind, the images become too specific and literal, where the music allows for more personal expansion. But good for you guys, in taking up a challenge of this nature. I look forward to seeing what else you do with this channel.
This mostly an account of Roger Waters' life and feelings, with elements of Syd Barrett's life as well. Syd was the one who went off the deep end when drugs exasperated his mental illness. The father dying in the war, the mother being overprotective, the rigid schooling, the wife cheating was all Roger. Looking forward to part 4!
Laa and Chee, if you guys are gonna do movies, take a look at Mad Dogs and Englishmen. Joe Cocker and Leon Russel. Leon put together and all-time great all star band of top shelf musicians. Great concert film.
He is watching the dam busters movie, I only recognized it because the dog is a black Labrador called, well I can't say it without getting a commenting ban but it starts with n.
28:00 He discovers his mastery of informarion via the remote. Tom& Jerry are incidental (to me)
Young lust is a bunch of groupies going into see Pink, the main character, back stage
His wife, his childhood sweetheart. He neglected her, so she left him for her college professor
No no no. Not the mom. That is Pink and his wife In Real Time. When you see teen with mom that is still another flashback. Pink is a Rock Star and the groupies are coming to find him while his wife is back in the UK with the Eco Protester dude.
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In this visual riff on Pink Floyd's album "The Wall," successful but drugged-out musician Pink (Bob Geldof) is looking back on his isolated childhood from the confines of a Los Angeles hotel room. Through a swirl of flashbacks and chemical-induced hallucinations, Pink recalls his lonely upbringing, during which he built a symbolic wall to the world as he coped with the death of his father (James Laurenson) and the overbearing ways of his mother (Christine Hargreaves)
I think Roger Waters the bass player was able to write this because he identified a lot with the main Character Also his last Album he did with Pink Floyd "the Final Cut" has al0ot of this concept but more geared to the 80's Wars and political issues of that time.
I feel like Pink right now, not sure I can recover
Me costo años entender esta pelicula (mi favorita) desde los 12 años viendola jajaja... Retrocede y avanza en diferentes etapas, le marca la muerte de su padre, su infancia en el colegio y la vida con su esposa ❤ saludos desze chile
¿No fue muy traumático ver esto a una edad tan relativamente joven? ¿Te molestó la misoginia u otras cosas?
The next scene is pink on the road after pretty much finding out that his wife is cheating on him, going crazy and just hanging out with any woman he can
Nooooo! It's not the mum! The mum is the huge woman from the 1950s. His wife is the gorgeous redhead from the 70s. She's finally given up on him and has gone off with a CND (Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament) guy.
That was his wife cheating, not his mom. "Mother, is SHE good enough for me." Anytime you see Bob Geldoff as Pink, you are either current or near current time. The Mom stuff is all old time.
The shaving thing is something the original lead singer did in his mental illness ling after leaving the band.
Your misconceptions about what this story (album) is about are exactly the reason why I always recommend listening thoroughly to the album and its lyrics many, many times before watching the movie. So you can form a coherent picture in your mind of what the message is, before having it complicated and distorted by visuals.
Absolutely. I'm always baffled when I hear people come on of here talking about how they should just watch the movie instead of listening to the album because that will explain everything. LOL
What movie are they talking about!?
These guys like most reactors listen to things once and move on to something else. Absolutely no way to comprehend such a complex and challenging story and format first time around. Album *or* movie.
@@flubblert indeed. Like someone in the comments below saying 'you have got to see the movie to appreciate the album ' ... wtf? No. Exactly the other way around! Or you'll think the redhead is Pink's mother f**king the 1940s doctor through some weird timeloop. I despair for humanity based on these individuals intelligence. Oh well.
@@rmyikzelf5604I think a lot of it comes from the fact that these guys probably weren’t exposed to this kind of visual storytelling much when they were younger. I’ve noticed that a lot of younger reactors & reactors that didn’t grow up with videos (like MTV) seem to get really thrown by visual imagery & don’t put things together very well. It’s a different kind of thinking & if one’s not exposed to it very often, it takes a lot more work to understand.
Who gives a shit. It’s cool watching them react regardless if they misconstrue parts of it. You guys must be fun at parties.
@@RazzleDazz72 I never said it wasn't.
Keep in mind this would be before cable tv and HBO. The tv probably has 4 stations, and Tom and Jerry is probably on one of them all day. The other stations would all be similar shows.
Also,,,,, they probably had to pay a studio for the rights to use the characters.
Why do that more than once?
I doubt Mickey Mouse or Bugs Bunny were available for such a questionable movie.
Guys guys…no. He’s on tour and his wife cheats on him with a guy from the peace movement that she was involved with. So that’s his wife sleeping with another man when Pink calls and the operator says there’s a man answering… it’s not really hard to understand here. I guess one has to be able to follow a non-linear narrative. It is a bit muddled in parts, but you’re way off the track. And no, his mother isn’t sleeping with the doctor, he’s just doing a house call and conferring with the mother as to the diagnosis concerning young Pink’s illness and it’s going to tie in with lines from Comfortably Numb etc….his Mom is not “getting porked” the sexual references in the movie all deal with Pink, the main character as a kid, on tour etc…
OMFG, watching these 2 guys trying to understand this film is hurting my brain. When you thought that the bit with the wife cheating on Pink was his mother in bed with the doctor I nearly threw a shoe at my screen. Maybe read a quick plot synopsis of the film on Wikipedia before watching any more so you don't get so confused? You'll enjoy the movie more if you do.
P.S. The screenplay for this was written by Pink Floyd's **Roger Waters** his father was killed in WW2 so pretty sure it is at least semi-autobiographical (if not fully) & not about **Syd Barrett** who had mental issues which were made worse or came about because of his excessive heavy drug use
The madness portrayed in The Wall is absolutely inspired by Syd Barrett's real life mental breakdown early on. Syd was Roger's childhood friend, and his mental break effected him deeply.
The character Pink is an amalgam of both Roger and Syd.
@@flubblert Gotcha **Thank You** for the correction i do know about Pink Floyd rather extensively but i got into them when i was like 9 years old & Syd was no longer a part of the band at that time i learned about him later in my life so when i saw this film when i was 10 years old i had no clue about Syd i am as i said much more educated now on them but **Thank You** once again **RockON!!!** **PixieTwirls**
@@CosmicVagabondPixie yeah, 10 is a little early to be fully aware of all the background of this band. In his current tour Roger talks about how the loss of Syd under such circumstances so deeply affected him... almost to the extent that he felt on the verge of going over the edge himself at one point. No comprehensive understanding of Pink Floyd can exist without understanding how what happened to Syd informed Roger's writing throughout the mid and late 70s, their most productive era. From Dark Side, to Wish You Were Here, and culminating with The Wall.
"You lock the door, and throw away the key,
There's someone in my head but it's not me. - "Brain Damaged"
@@flubblert WoW yea i just so luv Roger Waters as a Human Being & a very troubled Genius so mostly i have always gravitated toward him since as i said 1st listening to them at 9 i connected with him & course i luv David Gilmour cuz yea his guitar just makes me cry tis otherworldly & even tho i have read about Syd Barrett i kinda i guess had it in my head even up to right before your comment that their homage to him was ONLY with "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" & maybe "Wish You Were Here" & that was the extent of it so yea now i know & Thank You for that! i am guessing ya prolly know almost EVERYthing about them which is way Awesome! **PixieTwirls**
@@CosmicVagabondPixie I've always felt ‘Dark Side of the Moon’ was a metaphor for dark side of the brain, or mind. David Gilmour sings lead on nearly the entire album save “great gig in the sky” of course. The one song Roger leaves for himself to sing lead, comes at the end with “Brain Damaged”. That's not a coincidence imo. It is the one song that references Syd directly and their childhood friendship…
“remembering games, and daisy chains and laughs, got to keep the loonies on the path”. Although the song definitely has political implications as well.
Musically speaking I love both Roger and Dave equally. I don't think either of their artistry would have achieved such heights without the other's input. The soulful heartfelt way in which Gilmour interprets Roger’s penetrating poetic lyrics both on vocals and guitar, cannot be overstated.
You have to watch this a few times for it to make sense.
When u never grow up sometimes this corrupt world doesnt make allota sense
The phone call to the wife while on tour and a man picks up the phone happened to Roger Waters with his first wife
Yeah guys listen this whole thing is about the main character. His Wife is actually cheating on him and his love for her is dying after that, that's what the animes of the flowers were depicting. Got it?
15:38 ....Run, b*tch, run (Shorty -Scary Movie)
That was HIS WIFE not his mother. Collect call for Mrs Floyd from MR. FLOYD. He is on tour and his wife is at home with another man.
Then to retaliate, he has flings with groupies on tour. Pay attention guys.....lol
He blames his mother for his failed relationships, since she was so overbearing.
He lost his father to the war. He is blaming government, his mother for her ways, and he is starting to hate everyone and building up "his wall" to keep everyone out.
Got it
so did you guys notice the hippie chick goes into pinks motor home at the gig but we end up in a high rise apartment !!! ???
18:00 She entered a trailer with Pink. And suddenly after his outburst they are on the 30th floor?
Wasn't his mom, was his wife.
The original lead singer Syd Barrett really did shave his hair and eyebrows off. He took too much LSD
I realise it's pointless to say this at this point, but dudes, this is SO frustrating. NO! That's not his mother, that's his wife!! She's cheating on him! His mother is only in the scenes with Pink as a little boy. I'm shouting at the screen here. FIgure it out! Please! I still have 29 minutes to go!
So this comment thread is thousands of comments about how they confused the wife with the mom lol. Painful to read through.
I hope others have said.....it was his wife on the phone call that was cheating when he called.
Helpful hint …. Don’t go overboard on the mom issues.