I know everyone here hates fresh but he is absolutely correct and Myron because he speaks better and you guys for some reason have this gay crush on him. Just go with whatever he says. If you are getting death threats and believe they are credible, the last thing you should do is open the door. That is not the reasonable thing. If you think someone is trying to kill you like Myron says, if that person has a gun coming outside and kicking them is probably going to sign your death Note. So no, if you're that scared you keep the door closed unless it's someone you obviously know. Fresh was 100% right on this. Someone might be selling. Solar doesn't mean they're going to have a UPS or mailman uniform on. So what's the excuse there? His only real defense is the whole Facebook posting beforehand. Outside of that this person went to your door, didn't attack you and you hit him
" last thing you should do is open the door" THAT'S his house! him opening the door or not is irrelevant, it's his home and within his rights to choose to open or close, what are you talking about?
@@HassanSanemHe can open the door, but when he tries to claim that he feared for his safety, the court will not believe him. He should try to be less emotional next time.
Myrons loyal even when it doesn't make sense. Myron's response is just based off of emotion. All Nick had to do was just not answer the door, so simple.
@noirstar1994 I mean I agree that she shouldn't have gone there in the first place but at the same time you don't push someone down the stairs and mace them. Now the idiots got a case against him.
@@LOSTGPS basically like how that big stripper that used to work with them told Myron to come out and he didn't because he was scared for his life. That's what Nick should have done. I don't know why Myron is saying he did the right thing when he didn't even do that
All Myron is saying is that Nick can beat this easily. The simple way is by showing his side and what’s reasonable for a person to do(NOT WHAT’S LEGAL). The law does not get dealt with in a vacuum. All Fresh is saying is that this was avoidable. Both are right and Nick needs to move to Florida. Note: Notice the difference in Myron’s reaction and Fresh’s. Myron immediately went to discuss the solution for Nick while Fresh went to avoiding personally being in that situation as well as mentioning that the courts would be against Nick. 2 different relationships with Nick from 2 different types of people.
This is not a case of self defense. And the fact he used to work in law enforcement makes his take on this even more funny how much he simps for Nick 😂😂 Fresh is right, if you genuinely believe someone is a threat you’re not going to open the door. You would call the police
@@AntiSewingCircleChristianity Nick is going to lose the case because there was no trespassing or private property sign and no fences. All she did was ring a doorbell. Ringing a doorbell is not illegal and Nick could’ve just not opened the door
@@AntiSewingCircleChristianity Nick is going to lose the case. There no fence or a sign that said private property. Ringing a doorbell is not illegal and fresh is right, he shouldn’t have opened the door
@@AntiSewingCircleChristianityYou mean Myron grabbed one? The point is he didn't do any of the things Nick did or he's defending and that was unlawful entry. Name is fire by the way
I think Myron and Fresh are both correct. You have to understand Myron is an ex-fed and Fresh is a civilian, so they have two different fight-or-flight responses.
What does Myron being an ex fed have to do with anything, in fact if that was the case he should know that what nick did was unlawful. It’s not legal to just attack someone who rings your doorbell.
Because he like many black me hates people who criticise blacks. Fresh will race bash people 24/7 but when “da blac man” gets it he throws a hissy fit. Grow up
Myron always tells people that you can say anything and nobody should ever put your hands on you for it because you can go to jail yet he's defending nick when the girl didn't do anything to him.
Fresh won the exchange between the two but he is actually wrong. If you have a reasonable expectation that someone is going to attack you then you can strike 1st in a reasonable way. The video she posted on Facebook will be Nicks defense. Myron taking the L because he didn't understand the law is ironically hilarious.
@@johneaston8314 The reasonable expectation argument is not going to hold up in court. She had to specifically say that she was going to hurt Nick, otherwise it’s not going to hold up because ringing a doorbell is not illegal
@@johneaston8314 bro she never made any threats that’s the whole reason why he got arrested. She pressed charges. He never had any prior knowledge of her posts. I’ll say it again she never made any threats about causing him harm. It’s pretty cut and dry.
@@zerokool2354 he got arrested because she pressed charges that doesn't mean he can't argue self defense in court. Kyle Rittenhouse also got arrested guy. She actually threatened him in multiple Facebook post not just the one she made right before she went over there. Have you researched any of the facts of the events?
Myron is a hypocrite on this one. Nick’s ramifications is one of the example of results that is stemmed from fault and unpreparedness of individual’s decisions. Just like when women initiate relationships with men that wanted 6ft, higher physical strength, and makes money, but the possibility of getting abused and cheated on exists, same with Nick’s situation by willingly chose to partake on talking about dubious subjects that will lead being degraded by leftists and such, at the end wasn’t playing safe, got himself doxxed, and arrested bc he didn’t handle the situation well enough. If you’re going to make decisions, please consider possible cons that plays within.
It isn't a good argument. He said he would hide if a stranger came to his house. If it was the other way around and it was Nick telling a woman that he was upset and then went to her house, people would see this situation completely different and say the woman was justified.
@@SINQUEFIELD83 I like Nick, but it’s a good argument. It was like a 50 yr old woman so ofc it would be different if the scenario was flipped on nick, the logic just doesn’t make sense.
@kaiwavez1623 The logic makes sense, but your sexism makes you feel differently. What in the law says a man hitting a woman is different than a woman hitting a man? You already admitted "it would be different," so how does that make sense?
@kaiwavez1623 The logic makes sense, but your sexism makes you feel differently. What in the law says a man hitting a woman is different than a woman hitting a man? You already admitted "it would be different," so how does that make sense?
@kaiwavez1623 The logic makes sense, but your sexism makes you feel differently. What in the law says a man hitting a woman is different than a woman hitting a man? You already admitted "it would be different," so how does that make sense?
The reality with self defense is this. It is highly difficult to prove and it is too much of a risk to rely on. Fresh, ANYONE can approach you at your home while you are getting your mail, returning from work, leaving to work, or casually leaving. If you are relying to live in a world filled with evil people and think that you are not going to attack first, then you are in for a world of hurt. If someone is in your place, ATTACK FIRST. This is real life. Not a fucking movie. The first person to attack is usually the winner in the altercation. Extremely BETA response from Fresh. By his logic, OH NO, robbers are here, let me wait for them to enter in the home first before I end them. EVEN THOUGH I SEE THEM PREPARING. WHAT???
Some people here saying he shouldn't open the door! wHAT THE FAAAA.... THAT'S his house! him opening the door or not is irrelevant, it's his home and within his rights to choose to open or close, what are you talking about? so now If I came to your property if you don't hide then ANYTHING else is your fault!?
If someone who you feel is a threat, it’s not that they shouldn’t open it, it’s just common sense that you don’t. Idk why it’s so hard to comprehend that.
Myron has also been attacked several times by women in his studio and never once put his hands on them because he knows the law would not be favorable to him.
The context is that he was already being threatened and harassed via mail and etc. People sending packages of poop and stuff. It’s also that she already posted that she was going to dox him by going to his home. It’s not like Nick was unaware that this could be a possibility. Granted, it is unrealistic to tell someone on this situation to just “never open the door ever”.
Fresh is 100% correct, myron defending nick is wild. Nick was wrong for that he had no business attacking her when she didplayed no threat, its a woman
She's a grown member of society stalking him. Switch the genders and you would've had no problem. I actually agree with fresh that this could've been avoided but to say nick has no right to defend himself because she's a woman is asinine
Wow, fresh is not as dumb as I thought he was…… This should really go to show how stupid my route actually is not to mention incredibly racist and sexist. For guys that continue to sing for him, I really feel sorry for you.
Myron literally goes out of his way to defend the absolute WORST people in society. Myron straight up HATES being his skin color. Dude has serious issues. Defends, Hi tler, defends Kyle Rittenhouse, defends dude who shot Trayvon. Defends Nick Gomez. Fresh is right. I don't see this podcast lasting much longer with them together. Myron has done everything possible to sink it.
I know everyone here hates fresh but he is absolutely correct and Myron because he speaks better and you guys for some reason have this gay crush on him. Just go with whatever he says. If you are getting death threats and believe they are credible, the last thing you should do is open the door. That is not the reasonable thing. If you think someone is trying to kill you like Myron says, if that person has a gun coming outside and kicking them is probably going to sign your death Note. So no, if you're that scared you keep the door closed unless it's someone you obviously know. Fresh was 100% right on this. Someone might be selling. Solar doesn't mean they're going to have a UPS or mailman uniform on. So what's the excuse there? His only real defense is the whole Facebook posting beforehand. Outside of that this person went to your door, didn't attack you and you hit him
" last thing you should do is open the door" THAT'S his house! him opening the door or not is irrelevant, it's his home and within his rights to choose to open or close, what are you talking about?
@@HassanSanemwould you open the door if there was multiple dudes with a gun and all you had was spray? Let’s be real
@@HassanSanemHe can open the door, but when he tries to claim that he feared for his safety, the court will not believe him. He should try to be less emotional next time.
😭😭😭 all these ppl trynna justify what Myron is saying they gon get pregnant riding straight meat.
1000%. You can’t claim to fear for you life and open your door to a complete stranger
Myron is the only man in the world who's loyal to Destiny AND Nick
Bc nobody likes myron they tolerate
Myrons loyal even when it doesn't make sense. Myron's response is just based off of emotion. All Nick had to do was just not answer the door, so simple.
Even simpler, all she needed to do is to not go to the strangers house.
@noirstar1994
I mean I agree that she shouldn't have gone there in the first place but at the same time you don't push someone down the stairs and mace them. Now the idiots got a case against him.
@@noirstar1994 You can't attack somebody even if they're in your yard.
Fresh made Myron look stupid. He is ex- law enforcement? He's dumb
Fresh is TECHNICALLY correct
Legally correct is what matters. He's correct.
I would listen to Nick for hours than a few seconds listening to Fresh
Ok trumpty
Just say you're racist dude
Fresh has some sort of issue, he can't talk properly. It can be very annoying.
Fresh wants to live in a world where men run and hide and play it safe.
Its disgusting for this personality to be a leading voice in the male spaces online..
First of all, Fresh was always fake. I knew that back in 2021. He’d even go against redpill.
Myron is not guru w women @@egaal612
aint no way people are taking Myron's side on this...WOW 😐
@@daze77gaming it's like a cult & they attack like coward
Myron can’t fight, that’s why he has to threaten females with guns. Lame
@@LOSTGPS basically like how that big stripper that used to work with them told Myron to come out and he didn't because he was scared for his life. That's what Nick should have done. I don't know why Myron is saying he did the right thing when he didn't even do that
Having Nick Fuentes on is the reason they are not making hundreds of thousands a month.
But they like to preach taking accountability.
Myron being a racist 🤡 is the reason
@AceFlexFitness0007 nope that's myron being a 🤡
@@marqezdavis3673 yet they don’t seem to deny that there actions played a factor.
@@AceFlexFitness0007 then why hasn't destiny been demonetized, he had Nick on way more? Stop listening to Aba and Preach like their nonsense is fact
This dude criticizes women, yet hes here arguing w emotion because he loves nick.
Both had good points
All Myron is saying is that Nick can beat this easily. The simple way is by showing his side and what’s reasonable for a person to do(NOT WHAT’S LEGAL). The law does not get dealt with in a vacuum.
All Fresh is saying is that this was avoidable.
Both are right and Nick needs to move to Florida.
Note: Notice the difference in Myron’s reaction and Fresh’s.
Myron immediately went to discuss the solution for Nick while Fresh went to avoiding personally being in that situation as well as mentioning that the courts would be against Nick.
2 different relationships with Nick from 2 different types of people.
This is not a case of self defense. And the fact he used to work in law enforcement makes his take on this even more funny how much he simps for Nick 😂😂
Fresh is right, if you genuinely believe someone is a threat you’re not going to open the door. You would call the police
Myron did the same thing for Tate’s case. He doesn’t understand what human trafficking is either
I’m starting to think Fresh is the smarter one. Myron’s take doesn’t make any sense
He is😂
His take was that with a mid lawyer Nick could beat the case because what he did was reasonable. Simple
@AntiSewingCircleChristianity it's possible but in Illinois not likely
@@AntiSewingCircleChristianity Nick is going to lose the case because there was no trespassing or private property sign and no fences. All she did was ring a doorbell. Ringing a doorbell is not illegal and Nick could’ve just not opened the door
@@AntiSewingCircleChristianity Nick is going to lose the case. There no fence or a sign that said private property. Ringing a doorbell is not illegal and fresh is right, he shouldn’t have opened the door
A dude literally showed up at there studio before and Myron didn't do shit but basically piss his pants
He put a gun to him on camera lmao
@@AntiSewingCircleChristianityYou mean Myron grabbed one? The point is he didn't do any of the things Nick did or he's defending and that was unlawful entry. Name is fire by the way
Y’all love watching black on black violence.
@@AntiSewingCircleChristianity he didn't tho
Fresh is making sense for once
Fresh sounds dumb asf
Common sense self defense laws
✝️🤴
I think Myron and Fresh are both correct. You have to understand Myron is an ex-fed and Fresh is a civilian, so they have two different fight-or-flight responses.
What does Myron being an ex fed have to do with anything, in fact if that was the case he should know that what nick did was unlawful. It’s not legal to just attack someone who rings your doorbell.
Myron can still be wrong even though he’s a fed. Thinking otherwise is just an appeal to authority fallacy.
@@mycrazylife408I'd trust a fed less
Fresh doesn’t like Fuentes for sure lol
Because he like many black me hates people who criticise blacks. Fresh will race bash people 24/7 but when “da blac man” gets it he throws a hissy fit.
Grow up
Nick is cooked !! He might not go to jail but he’s definitely gonna have to pay up !!
Under fresh’s logic anybody can essentially harass anybody. Idk about y’all but that’s not the world I want to live in.
Yes, after a while you have to say enough is enough.
Myron always tells people that you can say anything and nobody should ever put your hands on you for it because you can go to jail yet he's defending nick when the girl didn't do anything to him.
The only thing Fresh about Walter is his mind, it’s never been used.
Fresh won the exchange between the two but he is actually wrong. If you have a reasonable expectation that someone is going to attack you then you can strike 1st in a reasonable way. The video she posted on Facebook will be Nicks defense. Myron taking the L because he didn't understand the law is ironically hilarious.
Is it me or is Myron kinda dumb?
@@johneaston8314 The reasonable expectation argument is not going to hold up in court. She had to specifically say that she was going to hurt Nick, otherwise it’s not going to hold up because ringing a doorbell is not illegal
@@oscarperez9783 it'll hold up just fine, did you see her Facebook post? It's reasonable to think her intentions were malicious
@@johneaston8314 bro she never made any threats that’s the whole reason why he got arrested. She pressed charges. He never had any prior knowledge of her posts. I’ll say it again she never made any threats about causing him harm. It’s pretty cut and dry.
@@zerokool2354 he got arrested because she pressed charges that doesn't mean he can't argue self defense in court. Kyle Rittenhouse also got arrested guy.
She actually threatened him in multiple Facebook post not just the one she made right before she went over there. Have you researched any of the facts of the events?
“Fresh” must’ve gotten pressed by one of his “connections” for being around racists so he has to give this dummy pushback..
Myron is a hypocrite on this one. Nick’s ramifications is one of the example of results that is stemmed from fault and unpreparedness of individual’s decisions. Just like when women initiate relationships with men that wanted 6ft, higher physical strength, and makes money, but the possibility of getting abused and cheated on exists, same with Nick’s situation by willingly chose to partake on talking about dubious subjects that will lead being degraded by leftists and such, at the end wasn’t playing safe, got himself doxxed, and arrested bc he didn’t handle the situation well enough. If you’re going to make decisions, please consider possible cons that plays within.
I actually agree with fresh on this topic. Never thought I would say this.
Fresh making good points is a rare W
Facts
"anyway we got some chats .. " - Myron
Fresh isn't a dumbass he acts stupid a lot don't get me wrong lmao but he's very observant
@youmakemelolz fresh said she would open the door recording, some people don't care about that camera
Fresh is advocating for grown men to hide in their house from feminist. Lol dudes cooked
Fresh making a good argument. I never thought the day would come.
It isn't a good argument. He said he would hide if a stranger came to his house.
If it was the other way around and it was Nick telling a woman that he was upset and then went to her house, people would see this situation completely different and say the woman was justified.
@@SINQUEFIELD83 I like Nick, but it’s a good argument. It was like a 50 yr old woman so ofc it would be different if the scenario was flipped on nick, the logic just doesn’t make sense.
@kaiwavez1623 The logic makes sense, but your sexism makes you feel differently.
What in the law says a man hitting a woman is different than a woman hitting a man? You already admitted "it would be different," so how does that make sense?
@kaiwavez1623 The logic makes sense, but your sexism makes you feel differently.
What in the law says a man hitting a woman is different than a woman hitting a man? You already admitted "it would be different," so how does that make sense?
@kaiwavez1623 The logic makes sense, but your sexism makes you feel differently.
What in the law says a man hitting a woman is different than a woman hitting a man? You already admitted "it would be different," so how does that make sense?
Mr never show emotions is being emotional and defending nick at all costs instead of being logical
The reality with self defense is this. It is highly difficult to prove and it is too much of a risk to rely on. Fresh, ANYONE can approach you at your home while you are getting your mail, returning from work, leaving to work, or casually leaving.
If you are relying to live in a world filled with evil people and think that you are not going to attack first, then you are in for a world of hurt. If someone is in your place, ATTACK FIRST. This is real life. Not a fucking movie. The first person to attack is usually the winner in the altercation.
Extremely BETA response from Fresh. By his logic, OH NO, robbers are here, let me wait for them to enter in the home first before I end them. EVEN THOUGH I SEE THEM PREPARING. WHAT???
Some people here saying he shouldn't open the door! wHAT THE FAAAA.... THAT'S his house! him opening the door or not is irrelevant, it's his home and within his rights to choose to open or close, what are you talking about? so now If I came to your property if you don't hide then ANYTHING else is your fault!?
If someone who you feel is a threat, it’s not that they shouldn’t open it, it’s just common sense that you don’t. Idk why it’s so hard to comprehend that.
Can’t have self defense if there’s no offense !!
I don't think Fresh likes any of Myron's friends. Nick, Sneako, Zherka(can't really blame him on that one).
Wow, Fresh is winning debates against Myron now? This show is a sinking ship.
Myron twerking for mayo supremacy again
Its crazy how Myron a former agent rationalizes shit
Idiots actually believe him smh
Mr never show emotions is being emotional and defending nick at all costs instead of being logical
Myron has also been attacked several times by women in his studio and never once put his hands on them because he knows the law would not be favorable to him.
how are you blaming dude for opening door to someone who rings it? xD this is gross victim blaming from fresh
The context is that he was already being threatened and harassed via mail and etc. People sending packages of poop and stuff. It’s also that she already posted that she was going to dox him by going to his home.
It’s not like Nick was unaware that this could be a possibility.
Granted, it is unrealistic to tell someone on this situation to just “never open the door ever”.
It’s crazy how stupid and bad faith some of you are. And I thought fresh was the moron…
Rare W for Fresh
I actually agree with fresh on this one lol
Fresh is 100% correct, myron defending nick is wild. Nick was wrong for that he had no business attacking her when she didplayed no threat, its a woman
She's a grown member of society stalking him. Switch the genders and you would've had no problem. I actually agree with fresh that this could've been avoided but to say nick has no right to defend himself because she's a woman is asinine
Clearly she had been there a while ringing the door harassing nick.
I’m not too sure about that.
Was it him or the girl who called the police?
According to the story 3rd party said they drove by and saw nick attack her
@@AntiSewingCircleChristianity they're implying it was a random person that called but I doubt it given the exactness of the call.
Fresh is right
L fresh free nick
Free nick. Fresh is acoustic.
Like a type of guitar?
@@H2Otodafullest no its a way to say autistic so UA-cam doesn’t delete
A lot of y’all secretly hate women
Nick and all his fans represent the death of the old ideals. He and his fan are super acoustic and weird even if funny
@@kava3957secretly??? Anyone who takes what Myron says seriously does
Damn Rare Fresh W
Wow, fresh is not as dumb as I thought he was…… This should really go to show how stupid my route actually is not to mention incredibly racist and sexist. For guys that continue to sing for him, I really feel sorry for you.
Nick just got arrested 😆 all these dudes are.about to reach a low point.
fresh got rich by accident.
Myron literally goes out of his way to defend the absolute WORST people in society. Myron straight up HATES being his skin color. Dude has serious issues.
Defends, Hi tler, defends Kyle Rittenhouse, defends dude who shot Trayvon. Defends Nick Gomez.
Fresh is right. I don't see this podcast lasting much longer with them together. Myron has done everything possible to sink it.
Yeah, myron acts "loyal" for his own ego. Being righteous means honest, not defending bad acts from people.
Kyle was innocent u dolt
@@whataboutdamendough Okay Myron.
Kyle was found innocent!
OJ was found innocent and you still say “no he’s black, so he’s guilty” so now we say “no he’s a white supremacist, so he’s guilty” 😁