I took a Pentax Spotmatic (almost like the SP500 you have there) and a 50/1.4 (8 elements, just like yours) to a trip in Japan. At one point we passed just next to an old wedding photographer doing a street session in Kyoto, as soon as the photographer realized the camera and lens I had, he stopped the session for a moment to see the camera and he told me when he was young he owned a Spotmatic with that lens too! He was really happy to see that kind of gear today. Great video as always man!
Man I'm 30 seconds into the video and already enjoying the calm way you're talking. On UA-cam you usually get yelled at in the first sentence with "WHAT'S UP GUYS, WELCOME TO ANOTHER VIDEO" It's so nice to see and hear something different and also much more fitting for photography in my opinion!
I agree, hate that being shouted at "WHAAZZZUP GUYS" like I'm a street dancer with baggy pants and a cap on backwards. Followed by "I'M SUUUUPHAR EXZZITED ABOUT...." Please!! Give me a break
I have this version of the lens, recently acquired from thrift store that came with a spotmatic and a 200mm lens as well, all for $15. I almost passed out with joy when I saw the 1.4 stuck on the camera body. Absolutely my favorite lens to shoot although, on my 50d crop sensor the focal range is closer to 80mm. I also have the 35mm f3.5 that is very pleasant and closer to the 50 mm equivalent on aps-c. Best way to find these now is out on the street for sale in thrift stores or garage sales, even Facebook or craigslist from people selling their film kit. All the lenses on eBay or camera stores are price gouging or for parts only. Used to pick these up on eBay cheap like buying candy but those days are over. If you do get this lens...keep it and don’t let go, you’ll regret it.
I have both a Zeiss Planar 50/1.4 and a Super Takumar 50/1.4. The Tamumar did not kill my Planar, it is still alive and in constant use, as is the Takumar. Which do I prefer? Depends on the camera and the circumstances. Neither have ever disappointed me.
I have this lens and I adapted it on my digital, it's my favorite lens. the only problem is that it gives a focal length of 110 mm on my Olympus (the crop factor on the micro 4/3)
The images are fantastic! It kind of sad that Pentax is no longer in contention with the popular brands. Hopefully their new GRIII puts them "back in the game." Yea, this is the ANALOG INSIGHTS, however I love to see you review that camera.
Thanks for your kind feedback. I get my music from Epidemic Sound, a platform for UA-cam creators. The song is by Fabien Tell and called "Maroon". Hope this helps.
Came for the Tak, subscribed for the music choice. Ok, the photos were convincing too. I have (and love) same the 7-Element version you have there. As someone who has had the opportunity to use the 8-element version and the 7-element version in comparision, do you think that the 8 is a real upgrade over the 7? The 7 works really well with color, in my opinion. In yours too?
Thanks for your comment. This is a really great question. Unfortunately, I don’t use the 7-element version often enough to confidently answer it. But if you’re happy with your lens, I don’t see a need to upgrade.
It's definitely a great lens but the 7 element version is nothing short of amazing as well! I love using it with my Spotmatic F and I can't wait to try it out with my X-T100 once the adapter arrives eheh
I have a same lenses and I understand why you chose B&W films as a sample pictures. I recommend that you try portrait with color films and speed light then problem of color will be settled anyway this lenses is excellent thanks for introduce our Japanese lenses to other people
Very well made educational video . I just bought a pentax smc 50mm 1/2 lens for 10 cd dollars. I'm using it on my k70 pentax. I want to upgrade and this lens will do the job . Thanks .
I shot my first wedding in 1975 with a Pentax SP2 and the SP500 as my back up. I shot most of the wedding with the 50mm f1.8. I still have these cameras and an assortment of lenses. I took my SP2 on a recent holiday and shot a few images. Great cameras and great lenses. Thanks for the review.
I have the 7-element version (didn't realize it was a "modified" version until this video) and love it. The tack-sharp focus contrasted against the soft, creamy bokeh makes me think of it almost like the 35mm version of the 80/1.9 for the Mamiya 645.
I still have the Pentax K1000, purchased in 1979, and the extra K1000 I bought in 1997. They are each built like tanks, and with some of your shots I can appreciate the bokeh. But on most of them, the bokeh seemed too strong, and very harsh. I still prefer the Summicron as the benchmark for bokeh & sharpness. The Pentax lenses are fine, especially when used with Ilford XP2Super (was only XP when I first started using it, and for a very short time, Ilford made color film 1997/1998). The color was never as good as Agfa. Looking forwaard to your episode on the Pentax KX,MX, and LX.
I picked up 3 spotmatic bodies and 4 leftover Pentax lenses from an estate sale last year that no one wanted all for $200 USD. I didn't even know it until this video of yours, that one of the lenses I bought is the exact same lens you are reviewing here. I am quite surprised and excited not knowing what I had bought that day.
Interesting choice for composition of the footage of you. Why would you want the viewer to look at the pillow on your sofa the whole time.... great lens btw...
It is a very basic concept of composition that every artist and photographer should know...called composition. You should try it. Google The Rule of Thirds
great shots, expecially the ones where you stopped down the lens and let your research for form and composition take point (but your extreme bokeh shots are as tasteful as they can get). Keep up the good work!
Great review Max and thorough as usual. I was expecting you to mention if this was one of the radioactive lenses because I know some of the 50 mm were treated with thorium. I reviewed the 28th mmm version on my channel but not being used to wide angle I did miss the depth and shallower Focus you can get with a 50 millimeter like this.
I love B&W and film photography, it's like capturing "The Essense of 'That' Time". I also love the classic Nostalgia vibe I get with every video I watch on this channel. It brings me a sense of calmness, connection with the world, and its beautiful fine details projected onto the film. I never captured photos with any one of those but my father had a film camera, a Nikon one. Even so, I still have an emotional bond with that camera and childhood memories of that time. Imagine how it would be like if I was actually capturing photos with one. I have two souls in me, one for everything else, and one belongs to what your channel represents. Very inspiring. Danke schön.
I didn't realize what a classic and historical feel this lens and the film had together, until I noticed the modern cars in some of the photos toward the end and was kind of startled by their presence.
For some reason, UA-cam for the first time, just showed me your channel with this video. I checked and it appears your channel has been on UA-cam for 2 years? What a shame. I've been on YT since it's inception and photography is my main focus. I've watched thousands of classic cameras and lens videos so it's is very odd that I'm seeing you for the first time. So I guess the thing to do now is to watch all of them since this video is of excellent quality and we seem to share the same passion. I'll hit the thumbs up button to help your channel hopefully get a wider viewing audience. Cheers!
Wonderful character in that lens! I may have to try and track one down myself, although I am mostly a Nikon guy. I've always wanted a black Pentax like Ringo was shooting in the film "A Hard Day's Night", but have never gotten off my duff and bought one. Now I have motivation! I REALLY enjoyed the photos you took! Thanks for the video!
I am lucky enough to have 3 of the 8 Element 50mm f1.4 versions and 6 of the 7 element 50mm f1.4 in various Takumar versions. My personal favorite is the 7 element SMC 50 f1.4
Definitely a good lens for B&W and not so much for color ! For color I recommend the SMC 50mm f1.4 K , the first I think that got the SMC coating on all glass elements vs the older m42 versions.
Wonderful review, got a younger 7 element 50/1.4 on an SP1000 and it produces fantastic results in b/w. Would love to get my hands on the 8 element to compare but this video has just done that for me. Thanks again.
Dear Sir, I have bought a Super Takumar 50 1.4 which was advertised as an 8 element version.The serial number of the lens is 1393172 , and rest of markings seam to match your description. (I am not sure I have understood correctly the point on f 2). My lens is shipped from Japan, from a 100% serious dealer. I would be grateful if you could inform me if this type of lens is radioactive or not. I have bought this lens , which has not arrived yet, hoping that it is truly an authentic Planar Killer lens and that it is not radioactive. In the photo though from ebay the lens looked a bit yellow to me, but of course I might be mistaken. Do you kindly know Sir if there is any way of checking this out? and if it is so, can I travel by air with a radioactive lens? Hoping for your reply I send to you my special thanks for your helpful video, time and effort.
Thanks for your comment and sorry about my late response. As another viewer pointed out, I made a small mistake when talking about the dot at f/2. The correct source states: "This 8 element version can be identified on the location of the infrared focus mark: The mark is to the right of the numeral 4 on the DOF scale. This is nicely illustrated in the second image above. This 8 element version can also be identified on the slightly protruding rear lens element and on the stop down switch, which is marked A M (rather than Auto Man as on the later versions). Also, the early version never has a dot on the aperture ring at the f/2 position whereas the later versions may or may not have a dot." (www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/super-takumar-50mm-f1.4-early.html) The first version is not radioactive. It sounds like you have exactly the first version.
I had the smc version once and I have to say that handling feels *so nice* that it is reason enough to shoot with it. K and M lenses are good in that regard,too, but the full metal construction makes a huge difference. Now I wonder if I should buy the super or the smc version again, as I miss it.
I have the second version of this lens, and although it's not the same as the original version, it is by far my favorite lens to shoot with. It's incredibly sharp, especially stopped down, and produces some of the most beautiful images I've seen--even on modern digital cameras, in color. I've even shot some fast-action environmental portraits (boxing bag work) with it, and the images produced are truly special. I will shot with this lens for decades to come. Excellent review, friend.
Great video, and information. Also worth mentioning, if you can't find this 8 element Pentax, is the original Olympus OM 8 element 50mm f/1.4 "silver nose". The OM has beautiful creamy bokeh and works well with colour and B&W film. It came out in the early '70s with the OM-1. I had the Pentax 50mm f/1.4 7 element version but prefer the Olympus silver nose.
Hi Max. Very nicely done video. I just purchased the 8-elements version. I snagged it at a good price. Condition is great! Now I need a Pentax body. I'm looking for a film body of the same production year (plus/minus a few years). As you mentioned, these 8-element copies were made during 1964-1966. I spent several hours today searching the web for information as to the precise production year of my 8-element lens so that I can date the lens and then find the corresponding camera body. No such luck. If you know if a good Takumar S/No. data base, please let me know. Then some blogs are saying not to use a Pentax body if the "R" on the rewind knob is painted green. Only rewind knobs that have the "R" painted in orange will be compatible. This is due to the protrusion of the rear element of the lens. If not compatible, then the rear element can be damaged - I suppose by the mirror flipping up and down. But every Spotmatic that I saw on eBay has the green "R". I'm thinking that I have the wrong information, so appreciating if you could help me out here. Meantime, it's good to know that the 8-element works well with the SP-500 body. That's a good start for me. Thanks! Steve (New York).
Steve, thank you for your comment and asking. I double checked with Greg who is the Pentax expert in our team and he could pull up the following pieces of information. The lens cannot be used on the Pentax Spotmatic and cameras with a red or yellow R on the rewind button, except the S1a (H1a), S3 (H3), or SV models. The lens can also suffer serious damage when used on older cameras with a green R. So just as you say, the use is quite limited, or you have to be careful when buying a fitting camera body.
I have a Pentax Super Takumar 55mm f/1.8 lens which came with a Honeywell Pentax Spotmatic camera I picked up a year ago. Excellent lens..very sharp, contrasty, and rich color rendition easily one of my best 'normal' lenses. No idea of how many elements in it but I'm guessing it dates from about 1969-1970.
that was a superb video... what lens and camera did you use to shoot this? I liked the way you composed your shot... the sofa and the cushion pillow in the background... your turtleneck and brown hair... your incredibly handsome good looks... and above all the soft huskiness of your voice.... while the lens was what I intended to see, I ended up watching you more...😁
Thanks for your kind feedback. It means a lot to me. The video was shot with my Leica T and a vintage Minolta 35mm f/1.8 lens (living room scenes) and a Panasonic Lumix with Olympus 12-40mm f/2.8. Hope this answers your question.
Max, as usual, it is a good review. Just a question: Which developer are you using for your B&W films? The contrast is excellent!!! I will appreciate your answer. Thank you!!
Just a quick hello from a few km West of München :-) Still holding onto my P67 and EOS 1V ;-) and 4 x F1's ... Nice to see a 'local' film afficionado! Have not reviewed all of your videos, and wondered if you have any pointers to good labs for processing both Dia and B&W film in 35 and 120 sizes? Viel erfolg, viel Spaß
The Spotmatic SPII is suited to use with this lens, although it has the green "R" mark on the film rewind unit. The earlier Pentax cameras could not accommodate the protruding back element. However, that was later rectified by newer models coming out with a orange "R" on the film rewind unit, indicating the lens could be used (the mirrors were shortened so that it would not knock the rear element, and thereby damaging it)
I sold my Kiev 60 setup a few years ago and I have to say, even though I've moved on to "better" medium format cameras, I miss that ugly doorstop. Only problem with mine was internal reflections, which of course was easily fixed.
Another fine video; I found myself nodding in agreement throughout. I have the seven element version of this lens and can testify to its excellent performance. However, I always use a lens hood when shooting. And I am not letting my Planar lens go.........
An 8 blade Takumar SMC 50mm 1.4 arrived today. Like everybody else, you're home, the light is going down, you're shooting the book shelf, highlights on a movie camera, anything you can do hand held just to see something something close to a table lamp.....and at 1.4. I had to check on my Fuji whether I had the sharpness up a notch. Nope. I had an X-H1 to give me a 30th of a sec wide open at 200 ISO. (what did happen to ASA?) It took me moments to realize the lens wide open was sharper than both the Rollei Planar C.Z. 1.8 50mm's I own. (my first model has a slow snug focus...it's trains me...it will get there, just chill....) I paid 120 for the Takumar, and the damn thing is in new condition. So, a nice Saturday evening. Now should I go out tonight and stand in the middle of traffic? Hmmm.....
Lovely video from someone who clearly has passion for photography and cameras. I got a version 3 of this lens last week. Not quite the 60s version, but I still love it!
A 50mm f1.2 rear lens elements barely fits inside the M42 mount. There is only one example of such a lens in M42 mount, it is from Tomioka, and it is $$$ !
I have an M-series 50/f1.4. I wonder how that compares 2 the Super-Takumar? Word that comes 2 mind enjoying those images .. Perfection! And gr8 choice of music .. simple/classic
Amazing review, as always! Can you please tell me the name of the song that you used on review? Thank you! To adapt on a digital camera, you recommend the 8 elements or the 7 elements (even th 8 is better to shoot in BW)?
Thanks for your comment. I'm using music provided by Epidemic Sound. The first track is called "Maroon" by Fabien Tell and the second one "Spinning Chamber Music" by Håkan Eriksson. Hope this helps.
It's pretty sharp but the rendering of bokeh is not my cup of tea. Funny thing, I think I prefer the super cheap 55 f1.8 of Pentax, Fuji... (Basically the same cheap design) over this.
Great video. I wish that Pentax had kept the focusing ring of this lens ❤when they went on to produce the SMC Pentax M 2.0 which I have. It’s just right, unlike the knobbly grip on my example. It has however happily shot a lot of Kodak Tri-X 400 attached to an MG that I also still have…✌️
djdcode Thanks for your comment. These glasses are by Jimmy Fairly and pretty old by now. They were part of one of their first collections back then. But you should be able to find similar ones from other brands by now.
@@AnalogInsights Thank you for your kind answering. I couldn't find out that brand In Los Angeles. I will trying to find out as much as I can do. It's awesome glasses.
Own a Pentax Spotmatic SPII w a later 7 element Takumar 50mm f 1.4 lens. no doubt there is a slight difference between the 8 and 7 element lens. but to even serious shooters, it would have to be detailed to spot differences. I love my Takumar 50mm f 1.4 lens, especially using Fuji Provia F and Ilford FP4. love the sharpness and color rendition. know some critics might have comments otherwise but am sure the original 8 element Takumar is hard to find.
I noticed the serial number of your particular lens starts with 111. Some 8 element 50mm f/1.4s that start with serial number 135 have been recorded as having some radioactivity. Do you know if yours does?
Самое главное, что Asahi вошли на рынок с объективами Takumar во время Олимпиады в Токио. И да, по многим данным первые Takumar были убыточны, но Asahi демпендиговали рынок, и боролись с Zeiss планаром.
I believe the dot in the 2 position of the aperture ring was on the early versions of the 7 element iteration, before the “Super Multi Coated” version.
Very stylish review! I'm debating on whether I should upgrade from my 55/1.8 to this one, and this review definitely is making me inch towards the 1.4. However, I don't shoot bokeh much, so I'm still wondering if the extra cost will be worth it.
It will be a good thing to add to your collection but it will be less useful than your 55 1.8. the takumar 55 1.8 will definitely sharper wide open than the 1.4
@@rodels.3745 I ended up getting the 1.4 shortly after posting this comment, and yes, I do find that it's a little less sharp than the 1.8 wide open, but I also prefer a 50 to a 55 since it's a little wider, so I'd say that the pros and cons balance out.
@@theundefinedphotographer I didn't realize the comment was 2 yrs old he he. Yeah, these vintage lenses are kind of addictive. I hope I don't fall into a buying spree again.
So, you didn't use a lense-hood? Why not? I would like to see this lens tested with and without a hood. Also, was the lense UV-treated, to remove the Thorium yellowing?
From your excellent shots and insightful comments, it does appear to have a 60's 'look' with regard to rendering/handling of flare, bokeh, colour and contrast but at the same time a contemporary feel in terms of sharpness - Interesting lens.
I have one of these. Not sure if it is prechanges or postchanges. How would I know that? Is there a serial number where it changes? I guess I would have to look to see how many elements there are in my lens. I think, from how he is dressed and the music, that he must be cellist. He is in a very bass heavy room.
I got rid of the 55/1.8 because of the radioactivity (which is quite high) but this one is not so it is very interesting. Super takumars are really nice lenses. The 55 was very good for portraits on my digital crop sensor camera.
I have the 55mm f/1.8, the radioactivity is not that bad. I measured ~0.30 uSv/h (about 3x background) at the eyepiece of my GH5s with the lens attached. It was 22.1 uSv/h at the back of the lens. The camera shields most of the radiation. I do use live view most of the time when using that particular lens, not the eyepiece 🙂
@@colymor Well, there is enough shit in this world so don't blame me to try to avoid the worst. I still have 2 lenses which are radioactive. I guess you do not believe in global warming either!
@@michelk5 Haha, not trying to put a blame here but you are not avoiding anything worst really... so, even if your background is not science, I suggest you read more on the fascinating topic of risk perception, it will change your life. Also, global warming is the ridiculously stupid political wording of an otherwise fascinating research area, that of climate change... So, let's not hide behind BS fears, supporting research and education is the only way out of darkness.
Very enjoyable video. From the images you shared this lens looks like it might be a great portrait lens if you like that dreamy look. I own a two Pentax cameras and thi slens would be a great addition.
Have you tried shooting Ilford SFX 200 Infrared film for landscapes and gardens? It would render a more contrasty and other worldly look but you might need an infrared filter with it.
Bist Du sicher, den Achtlinser zu haben? Ein Brite sagt in einem Vergleich OM-Z 1.4/50 und S-Takumar 1.4/50, den Achtlinser erkenne man daran, dass die rote Raute auf dem Blendenring nicht zwischen den beiden '4' steht, sondern exakt auf der '4'. Ich kann dazu nichts sagen, weil ich mein 1.4/50 zugunsten des 1.8/85 verkauft habe;-))
I have a younger (1967-1969) version I'm really happy with. Razor sharp, beautiful boheh. I have only one gripe with this lens, what's not necessarily lens's fault; when I use it on aps-c cameras (Fuji in my case) with a cheap speedbooster / focal reducer, I can't use it for close ups wide open, course the sharpness is literally gone. It's a bit better at infinity, but not too much. However, given fow sharp it is when I use it with the "dumb", simple adapter without glass elements, I guess I'll have to get better (more expensive) focal reducer 🙄 Gruß...
Thank you i have just got a pentax .sp 500. And the same lens you have been talking about. Super -takumar 1:2\55 asahi opt. Co. I also have a xomura f=105mm1:2 sankyo kohki japan. Lens both screw mounts. I am waiting to get a battery for camrea. Light meter. Then try black white film. Can you do a talk on the sp 500 pantax camrea sometime.? So i know what i am doing? A kiost camrea bar would be cool in each city. Just to drop in have a coffie cup of tea cake. Old camreas on walls. Maybe rent dark room at back. THE APERTURE.CAMREACOFFIEBAR.?
Thanks for your kind feedback. I get my music from Epidemic Sound, a platform for UA-cam creators. The song is by Fabien Tell and called "Maroon". Hope this helps.
Keep in mind that this is a radioactive lens. It is slightly radioactive due to the use of Thorium oxide. It is quite safe for most people. Who wants to live for ever after all. Thorium offers great optical properties. After 80's for environmental and health reasons, all lens manufacturers replaced Thorium by the optically inferior but completely safe lanthanum. These kind of radioactive lenses have a brown tint. Originally the lenses were clear. After some years the radio decay of Thorium creates gradually the brown tint. The brown tint can be easily and safely removed after some days with exposure to the sun's ultraviolet radiation. However the radio decay of Thorium continues and the brown tint will reappear again after some years. Nearly all super Takumar lenses are made with Thorium and are best value for money. eBay is full of them at various conditions and prices.
I took a Pentax Spotmatic (almost like the SP500 you have there) and a 50/1.4 (8 elements, just like yours) to a trip in Japan. At one point we passed just next to an old wedding photographer doing a street session in Kyoto, as soon as the photographer realized the camera and lens I had, he stopped the session for a moment to see the camera and he told me when he was young he owned a Spotmatic with that lens too! He was really happy to see that kind of gear today.
Great video as always man!
Beautiful story. Thanks for your comment.
I grew up with a Spotmatic F and the 35mmf3.5. Just bought a Honeywell Spotmatic and 35mmf3.5 and 8 element 50f1.2! Amazing kit.
Man I'm 30 seconds into the video and already enjoying the calm way you're talking. On UA-cam you usually get yelled at in the first sentence with "WHAT'S UP GUYS, WELCOME TO ANOTHER VIDEO"
It's so nice to see and hear something different and also much more fitting for photography in my opinion!
Lucas Diehl I’m tired of getting yelled at 😞
I agree, hate that being shouted at "WHAAZZZUP GUYS" like I'm a street dancer with baggy pants and a cap on backwards. Followed by "I'M SUUUUPHAR EXZZITED ABOUT...." Please!! Give me a break
agreed. Great demeanor and presentation!
Peter McKinnon baby. Damn I hate that guy :))
Yeah, his soft and mellow presentation style is very calming and pleasant.
i noticed your suit and shirt match the couch and pillow.
It does! I find that a little disturbing.
Are you a Mi5 or Mi6 because you didn't notice his Norwegian accent .
It's like he is part of the couch! :o
@@imjusttoodissgusted5620 As Above So Below; As Within So Without"
Plot twist: he's in front of a green screen and can get any background to match his outfit.
Sir you could double up as a part-time therapist....I would listen 100% 😉
I have this version of the lens, recently acquired from thrift store that came with a spotmatic and a 200mm lens as well, all for $15. I almost passed out with joy when I saw the 1.4 stuck on the camera body. Absolutely my favorite lens to shoot although, on my 50d crop sensor the focal range is closer to 80mm. I also have the 35mm f3.5 that is very pleasant and closer to the 50 mm equivalent on aps-c. Best way to find these now is out on the street for sale in thrift stores or garage sales, even Facebook or craigslist from people selling their film kit. All the lenses on eBay or camera stores are price gouging or for parts only. Used to pick these up on eBay cheap like buying candy but those days are over. If you do get this lens...keep it and don’t let go, you’ll regret it.
I have both a Zeiss Planar 50/1.4 and a Super Takumar 50/1.4. The Tamumar did not kill my Planar, it is still alive and in constant use, as is the Takumar. Which do I prefer? Depends on the camera and the circumstances. Neither have ever disappointed me.
Citations: "According to Urban Legend and the Internet..."
This is the most relaxing review I have ever watched 😂
Thinking of buying an adapter for the 55mm f/1.8 I have
The 55mm 1.8 is exquisite. Great color rendition, color saturation and bokeh. A bargain on the market $$$$$. Just not quite as sharp as the 50mm 1.4.
can not agree more..
I have this lens and I adapted it on my digital, it's my favorite lens. the only problem is that it gives a focal length of 110 mm on my Olympus (the crop factor on the micro 4/3)
If you were a psychiatrist, I would have happily paid you just for listening you talking....man....such a calm voice you have
The images are fantastic! It kind of sad that Pentax is no longer in contention with the popular brands. Hopefully their new GRIII puts them "back in the game." Yea, this is the ANALOG INSIGHTS, however I love to see you review that camera.
Would love to know the music you used.
Thanks for your kind feedback. I get my music from Epidemic Sound, a platform for UA-cam creators. The song is by Fabien Tell and called "Maroon". Hope this helps.
Would using a lens hood make a difference with the flare on this lens? I love the beautiful smoothness with these manual focus Pentax lenses.
Came for the Tak, subscribed for the music choice. Ok, the photos were convincing too.
I have (and love) same the 7-Element version you have there.
As someone who has had the opportunity to use the 8-element version and the 7-element version in comparision, do you think that the 8 is a real upgrade over the 7?
The 7 works really well with color, in my opinion. In yours too?
Thanks for your comment. This is a really great question. Unfortunately, I don’t use the 7-element version often enough to confidently answer it. But if you’re happy with your lens, I don’t see a need to upgrade.
Still confused buy 7 or 8, what do you think?
It's definitely a great lens but the 7 element version is nothing short of amazing as well! I love using it with my Spotmatic F and I can't wait to try it out with my X-T100 once the adapter arrives eheh
I was disappointed when I'd put in on my xt3 with m42 adapter
@@GeoffreyEduard ohh, why was that?
@@MsManel1996 I find the images soft
I use it with my xt10 since 3 years and it has been excellent for me.
@@GeoffreyEduard In my experience, it sharpens up when stopped down to the dot at F1.8 - F2.
I have a same lenses and I understand why you chose B&W films as a sample pictures.
I recommend that you try portrait with color films and speed light then problem of
color will be settled
anyway this lenses is excellent
thanks for introduce our Japanese lenses to other people
I regret to say I lost this lens while attached to an immaculate spotmatic f my grandfather had gifted me. never forgave myself for that!
Very well made educational video . I just bought a pentax smc 50mm 1/2 lens for 10 cd dollars. I'm using it on my k70 pentax. I want to upgrade and this lens will do the job . Thanks .
I shot my first wedding in 1975 with a Pentax SP2 and the SP500 as my back up. I shot most of the wedding with the 50mm f1.8. I still have these cameras and an assortment of lenses. I took my SP2 on a recent holiday and shot a few images. Great cameras and great lenses. Thanks for the review.
I have the 7-element version (didn't realize it was a "modified" version until this video) and love it. The tack-sharp focus contrasted against the soft, creamy bokeh makes me think of it almost like the 35mm version of the 80/1.9 for the Mamiya 645.
I still have the Pentax K1000, purchased in 1979, and the extra K1000 I bought in 1997. They are each built like tanks, and with some of your shots I can appreciate the bokeh. But on most of them, the bokeh seemed too strong, and very harsh. I still prefer the Summicron as the benchmark for bokeh & sharpness.
The Pentax lenses are fine, especially when used with Ilford XP2Super (was only XP when I first started using it, and for a very short time, Ilford made color film 1997/1998). The color was never as good as Agfa.
Looking forwaard to your episode on the Pentax KX,MX, and LX.
It definitely doesn't kill the Contax Planar 50/1.4!
I picked up 3 spotmatic bodies and 4 leftover Pentax lenses from an estate sale last year that no one wanted all for $200 USD. I didn't even know it until this video of yours, that one of the lenses I bought is the exact same lens you are reviewing here. I am quite surprised and excited not knowing what I had bought that day.
Interesting choice for composition of the footage of you. Why would you want the viewer to look at the pillow on your sofa the whole time.... great lens btw...
Yes, I tried really hard to draw attention to the pillow using the Fibonacci spiral...
It is a very basic concept of composition that every artist and photographer should know...called composition. You should try it. Google The Rule of Thirds
great shots, expecially the ones where you stopped down the lens and let your research for form and composition take point (but your extreme bokeh shots are as tasteful as they can get). Keep up the good work!
Nice content and a nice background acoustic music
Great review Max and thorough as usual. I was expecting you to mention if this was one of the radioactive lenses because I know some of the 50 mm were treated with thorium. I reviewed the 28th mmm version on my channel but not being used to wide angle I did miss the depth and shallower Focus you can get with a 50 millimeter like this.
I love B&W and film photography, it's like capturing "The Essense of 'That' Time". I also love the classic Nostalgia vibe I get with every video I watch on this channel. It brings me a sense of calmness, connection with the world, and its beautiful fine details projected onto the film. I never captured photos with any one of those but my father had a film camera, a Nikon one. Even so, I still have an emotional bond with that camera and childhood memories of that time. Imagine how it would be like if I was actually capturing photos with one. I have two souls in me, one for everything else, and one belongs to what your channel represents. Very inspiring. Danke schön.
I just found one of these lenses yesterday and wanted to get some good info about it. Thank you for your video with your comments about it.
I didn't realize what a classic and historical feel this lens and the film had together, until I noticed the modern cars in some of the photos toward the end and was kind of startled by their presence.
For some reason, UA-cam for the first time, just showed me your channel with this video. I checked and it appears your channel has been on UA-cam for 2 years? What a shame. I've been on YT since it's inception and photography is my main focus. I've watched thousands of classic cameras and lens videos so it's is very odd that I'm seeing you for the first time. So I guess the thing to do now is to watch all of them since this video is of excellent quality and we seem to share the same passion. I'll hit the thumbs up button to help your channel hopefully get a wider viewing audience. Cheers!
Wonderful character in that lens! I may have to try and track one down myself, although I am mostly a Nikon guy. I've always wanted a black Pentax like Ringo was shooting in the film "A Hard Day's Night", but have never gotten off my duff and bought one. Now I have motivation! I REALLY enjoyed the photos you took! Thanks for the video!
Btw, you made someone in Japan happy yesterday, because I bought a Spotmatic ES because of this video from them.
I am lucky enough to have 3 of the 8 Element 50mm f1.4 versions and 6 of the 7 element 50mm f1.4 in various Takumar versions. My personal favorite is the 7 element SMC 50 f1.4
Interesting. Thanks for your comment.
Thoughtful review with thoughtful images. Thank you.
The softness of it at 1.4 and the bokeh almost gives it a pictorialism look.
Definitely a good lens for B&W and not so much for color !
For color I recommend the SMC 50mm f1.4 K , the first I think that got the SMC coating on all glass elements vs the older m42 versions.
30 seconds in and I'm already naked... what the hell happened?
Wonderful review, got a younger 7 element 50/1.4 on an SP1000 and it produces fantastic results in b/w. Would love to get my hands on the 8 element to compare but this video has just done that for me. Thanks again.
Rocking the same combo - the 7 element version isn't as rare but still holds up well image quality wise.
Dear Sir, I have bought a Super Takumar 50 1.4 which was advertised as an 8 element version.The serial number of the lens is 1393172 , and rest of markings seam to match your description. (I am not sure I have understood correctly the point on f 2). My lens is shipped from Japan, from a 100% serious dealer. I would be grateful if you could inform me if this type of lens is radioactive or not. I have bought this lens , which has not arrived yet, hoping that it is truly an authentic Planar Killer lens and that it is not radioactive. In the photo though from ebay the lens looked a bit yellow to me, but of course I might be mistaken. Do you kindly know Sir if there is any way of checking this out? and if it is so, can I travel by air with a radioactive lens? Hoping for your reply I send to you my special thanks for your helpful video, time and effort.
Thanks for your comment and sorry about my late response. As another viewer pointed out, I made a small mistake when talking about the dot at f/2. The correct source states:
"This 8 element version can be identified on the location of the infrared focus mark: The mark is to the right of the numeral 4 on the DOF scale. This is nicely illustrated in the second image above.
This 8 element version can also be identified on the slightly protruding rear lens element and on the stop down switch, which is marked A M (rather than Auto Man as on the later versions). Also, the early version never has a dot on the aperture ring at the f/2 position whereas the later versions may or may not have a dot."
(www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/super-takumar-50mm-f1.4-early.html)
The first version is not radioactive. It sounds like you have exactly the first version.
I had the smc version once and I have to say that handling feels *so nice* that it is reason enough to shoot with it. K and M lenses are good in that regard,too, but the full metal construction makes a huge difference. Now I wonder if I should buy the super or the smc version again, as I miss it.
I have the second version of this lens, and although it's not the same as the original version, it is by far my favorite lens to shoot with. It's incredibly sharp, especially stopped down, and produces some of the most beautiful images I've seen--even on modern digital cameras, in color. I've even shot some fast-action environmental portraits (boxing bag work) with it, and the images produced are truly special. I will shot with this lens for decades to come. Excellent review, friend.
There is no second version 8 element. Do you mean a 7 element.?
Great video, and information. Also worth mentioning, if you can't find this 8 element Pentax, is the original Olympus OM 8 element 50mm f/1.4 "silver nose".
The OM has beautiful creamy bokeh and works well with colour and B&W film. It came out in the early '70s with the OM-1. I had the Pentax 50mm f/1.4 7 element version but
prefer the Olympus silver nose.
I have both this camera and lens... sitting on a bookshelf.
If only someone made a digital sensor for such retro cameras!
You can mount this on any mirror less camera made today and even some DSLR such as Canon! I’m using this regularly.
Hi Max. Very nicely done video. I just purchased the 8-elements version. I snagged it at a good price. Condition is great! Now I need a Pentax body. I'm looking for a film body of the same production year (plus/minus a few years). As you mentioned, these 8-element copies were made during 1964-1966. I spent several hours today searching the web for information as to the precise production year of my 8-element lens so that I can date the lens and then find the corresponding camera body. No such luck. If you know if a good Takumar S/No. data base, please let me know. Then some blogs are saying not to use a Pentax body if the "R" on the rewind knob is painted green. Only rewind knobs that have the "R" painted in orange will be compatible. This is due to the protrusion of the rear element of the lens. If not compatible, then the rear element can be damaged - I suppose by the mirror flipping up and down. But every Spotmatic that I saw on eBay has the green "R". I'm thinking that I have the wrong information, so appreciating if you could help me out here. Meantime, it's good to know that the 8-element works well with the SP-500 body. That's a good start for me. Thanks! Steve (New York).
Steve, thank you for your comment and asking. I double checked with Greg who is the Pentax expert in our team and he could pull up the following pieces of information.
The lens cannot be used on the Pentax Spotmatic and cameras with a red or yellow R on the rewind button, except the S1a (H1a), S3 (H3), or SV models. The lens can also suffer serious damage when used on older cameras with a green R. So just as you say, the use is quite limited, or you have to be careful when buying a fitting camera body.
@@AnalogInsights Thank you Max. I look forward to your next video.
I have a Pentax Super Takumar 55mm f/1.8 lens which came with a Honeywell Pentax Spotmatic camera I picked up a year ago. Excellent lens..very sharp, contrasty, and rich color rendition easily one of my best 'normal' lenses. No idea of how many elements in it but I'm guessing it dates from about 1969-1970.
It has six elements, see cameramanuals.org/lenses/pentax_lenses_thread_mount.pdf
You always illustrate your product reviews with dazzling photographs.
that was a superb video... what lens and camera did you use to shoot this? I liked the way you composed your shot... the sofa and the cushion pillow in the background... your turtleneck and brown hair... your incredibly handsome good looks... and above all the soft huskiness of your voice.... while the lens was what I intended to see, I ended up watching you more...😁
Thanks for your kind feedback. It means a lot to me.
The video was shot with my Leica T and a vintage Minolta 35mm f/1.8 lens (living room scenes) and a Panasonic Lumix with Olympus 12-40mm f/2.8. Hope this answers your question.
@@AnalogInsights It sure does.... Love from India
8 element is rare, hard to find in good condition
Max, as usual, it is a good review. Just a question: Which developer are you using for your B&W films? The contrast is excellent!!! I will appreciate your answer. Thank you!!
Jose-Gregorio Velasquez Thanks. These were developed in X-Tol and scanned by my lab.
Thank you Max!!!
Just a quick hello from a few km West of München :-) Still holding onto my P67 and EOS 1V ;-) and 4 x F1's ... Nice to see a 'local' film afficionado! Have not reviewed all of your videos, and wondered if you have any pointers to good labs for processing both Dia and B&W film in 35 and 120 sizes? Viel erfolg, viel Spaß
Are you rom Augsburg ?
I noticed he frequently refers to www.meinfilmlab.de/ in its videos so i assume he appreciate this lab.
Yes, and blow-up here in Munich is awesome as well.
The Spotmatic SPII is suited to use with this lens, although it has the green "R" mark on the film rewind unit. The earlier Pentax cameras could not accommodate the protruding back element. However, that was later rectified by newer models coming out with a orange "R" on the film rewind unit, indicating the lens could be used (the mirrors were shortened so that it would not knock the rear element, and thereby damaging it)
MAX PLEASE PLEASE review the kiev 60 or 6c or both!, can be an excellent beginner medium format camera if you find a good example or have it serviced
I sold my Kiev 60 setup a few years ago and I have to say, even though I've moved on to "better" medium format cameras, I miss that ugly doorstop. Only problem with mine was internal reflections, which of course was easily fixed.
Cool presentation. Silent breeze like voice...hence content is amplified. Not that awful shoutings and silly jokings. This channel is cool.
This is actually my favorite lens : )
Another fine video; I found myself nodding in agreement throughout. I have the seven element version of this lens and can testify to its excellent performance. However, I always use a lens hood when shooting. And I am not letting my Planar lens go.........
An 8 blade Takumar SMC 50mm 1.4 arrived today. Like everybody else, you're home, the light is going down, you're shooting the book shelf, highlights on a movie camera, anything you can do hand held just to see something something close to a table lamp.....and at 1.4. I had to check on my Fuji whether I had the sharpness up a notch. Nope. I had an X-H1 to give me a 30th of a sec wide open at 200 ISO. (what did happen to ASA?) It took me moments to realize the lens wide open was sharper than both the Rollei Planar C.Z. 1.8 50mm's I own. (my first model has a slow snug focus...it's trains me...it will get there, just chill....) I paid 120 for the Takumar, and the damn thing is in new condition. So, a nice Saturday evening. Now should I go out tonight and stand in the middle of traffic? Hmmm.....
Lovely video from someone who clearly has passion for photography and cameras. I got a version 3 of this lens last week. Not quite the 60s version, but I still love it!
Thank you for your kind comment. I really appreciate it. Glad to hear you have one of these lenses as well.
I have 2 of these lenses. I love them. Wish they had made a f/1.2
A 50mm f1.2 rear lens elements barely fits inside the M42 mount. There is only one example of such a lens in M42 mount, it is from Tomioka, and it is $$$ !
I have an M-series 50/f1.4. I wonder how that compares 2 the Super-Takumar? Word that comes 2 mind enjoying those images .. Perfection! And gr8 choice of music .. simple/classic
Amazing review, as always! Can you please tell me the name of the song that you used on review? Thank you!
To adapt on a digital camera, you recommend the 8 elements or the 7 elements (even th 8 is better to shoot in BW)?
Thanks for your comment. I'm using music provided by Epidemic Sound. The first track is called "Maroon" by Fabien Tell and the second one "Spinning Chamber Music" by Håkan Eriksson. Hope this helps.
It's pretty sharp but the rendering of bokeh is not my cup of tea. Funny thing, I think I prefer the super cheap 55 f1.8 of Pentax, Fuji... (Basically the same cheap design) over this.
Great video. I wish that Pentax had kept the focusing ring of this lens ❤when they went on to produce the SMC Pentax M 2.0 which I have. It’s just right, unlike the knobbly grip on my example. It has however happily shot a lot of Kodak Tri-X 400 attached to an MG that I also still have…✌️
Great video. Thank you for your class presentation. You have a new follower in me.
What is glasses you wear? looks great on you. please let me know at least brand name. ^^ Thank you for your guide for Takumar ^^
djdcode Thanks for your comment. These glasses are by Jimmy Fairly and pretty old by now. They were part of one of their first collections back then. But you should be able to find similar ones from other brands by now.
@@AnalogInsights Thank you for your kind answering. I couldn't find out that brand In Los Angeles. I will trying to find out as much as I can do. It's awesome glasses.
I love this video, very well done...I need this lens now after watching this.
Own a Pentax Spotmatic SPII w a later 7 element Takumar 50mm f 1.4 lens. no doubt there is a slight difference between the 8 and 7 element lens. but to even serious shooters, it would have to be detailed to spot differences. I love my Takumar 50mm f 1.4 lens, especially using Fuji Provia F and Ilford FP4. love the sharpness and color rendition. know some critics might have comments otherwise but am sure the original 8 element Takumar is hard to find.
I noticed the serial number of your particular lens starts with 111. Some 8 element 50mm f/1.4s that start with serial number 135 have been recorded as having some radioactivity. Do you know if yours does?
Impressive lens.. 👍
Do let me know your thoughts on Asahi super takumar 55 f1.8, for my Fuji Xpro1..
Самое главное, что Asahi вошли на рынок с объективами Takumar во время Олимпиады в Токио.
И да, по многим данным первые Takumar были убыточны, но Asahi демпендиговали рынок, и боролись с Zeiss планаром.
I believe the dot in the 2 position of the aperture ring was on the early versions of the 7 element iteration, before the “Super Multi Coated” version.
Great Video! I love this lens and owned 3 or 4 of them over the years. Perhaps a missed opportunity to use it on a portrait - it really shines there.
Yes, that's certainly true. I couldn't squeeze in a portrait session with it in the last couple of weeks. Sorry about that. :)
Very stylish review! I'm debating on whether I should upgrade from my 55/1.8 to this one, and this review definitely is making me inch towards the 1.4. However, I don't shoot bokeh much, so I'm still wondering if the extra cost will be worth it.
It will be a good thing to add to your collection but it will be less useful than your 55 1.8. the takumar 55 1.8 will definitely sharper wide open than the 1.4
@@rodels.3745 I ended up getting the 1.4 shortly after posting this comment, and yes, I do find that it's a little less sharp than the 1.8 wide open, but I also prefer a 50 to a 55 since it's a little wider, so I'd say that the pros and cons balance out.
@@theundefinedphotographer I didn't realize the comment was 2 yrs old he he. Yeah, these vintage lenses are kind of addictive. I hope I don't fall into a buying spree again.
why don't photography channels make their videos in 4k? how are we supposed to pixel peep at 1080p? we can't know how sharp anything is.
Incredible video. Really enjoyed it. Thanks for all you do!
So, you didn't use a lense-hood?
Why not?
I would like to see this lens tested with and without a hood.
Also, was the lense UV-treated, to remove the Thorium yellowing?
Not a bad lens, not bad, BUT! Planar (especially ZM version) is definitely better. Period.
Comparison between the pentax m and the smc takumar ua-cam.com/video/z8UIVFXhxPE/v-deo.html
From your excellent shots and insightful comments, it does appear to have a 60's 'look' with regard to rendering/handling of flare, bokeh, colour and contrast but at the same time a contemporary feel in terms of sharpness - Interesting lens.
I would love to see a video on the SMC Takumar 55mm 1.8. It’s a less showy lens than the 50mm 1.4 but I think I prefer it to this one.
Showy?
bouji?
Uncle Reg less impressive spec wise 😁
cool lens, if you manage to catch focus (and I've seen so many samples with out of focus).
1.8 could make more sense because of that.
I have one of these. Not sure if it is prechanges or postchanges. How would I know that? Is there a serial number where it changes? I guess I would have to look to see how many elements there are in my lens.
I think, from how he is dressed and the music, that he must be cellist. He is in a very bass heavy room.
I loved the review and the samples shown, outstanding work!
Alberto Llorca Thanks so much. 🙏🏻
It would be cool, if you could do a video about the stereo adapter/3D viewer for the super takumar lense, i would send you mine just in case!
I have the 50mm 1.8 and the 3.5 135mm, buttery smooth and the Bokeh is superb, and yes i agree that these lenses are superb quality.
I got rid of the 55/1.8 because of the radioactivity (which is quite high) but this one is not so it is very interesting. Super takumars are really nice lenses. The 55 was very good for portraits on my digital crop sensor camera.
I have the 55mm f/1.8, the radioactivity is not that bad. I measured ~0.30 uSv/h (about 3x background) at the eyepiece of my GH5s with the lens attached. It was 22.1 uSv/h at the back of the lens. The camera shields most of the radiation. I do use live view most of the time when using that particular lens, not the eyepiece 🙂
I do not take any risk, there are plenty of lenses which are as good and not radioactive.
@@michelk5 I suppose you don't breathe, take planes or have x-rays either?
@@colymor Well, there is enough shit in this world so don't blame me to try to avoid the worst. I still have 2 lenses which are radioactive. I guess you do not believe in global warming either!
@@michelk5 Haha, not trying to put a blame here but you are not avoiding anything worst really... so, even if your background is not science, I suggest you read more on the fascinating topic of risk perception, it will change your life. Also, global warming is the ridiculously stupid political wording of an otherwise fascinating research area, that of climate change... So, let's not hide behind BS fears, supporting research and education is the only way out of darkness.
Great great video, once again I get amazed about the high quality videos you guys makes. Keep up with that !
Very enjoyable video. From the images you shared this lens looks like it might be a great portrait lens if you like that dreamy look. I own a two Pentax cameras and thi slens would be a great addition.
Have you tried shooting Ilford SFX 200 Infrared film for landscapes and gardens? It would render a more contrasty and other worldly look but you might need an infrared filter with it.
Thanks for your interesting suggestion. No, I haven’t tried the SFX 200 infrared film on landscapes yet. Will give it a try sometime. :)
Very nice cello music. Which piece is it?
Thanks. The music is by Fabien Tell and available via Epidemicsound.com (where we get all our music for the channel).
Its propensity to flare must be intentional. Designers of that caliber are incredibly in control of their art.
Bist Du sicher, den Achtlinser zu haben? Ein Brite sagt in einem Vergleich OM-Z 1.4/50 und S-Takumar 1.4/50, den Achtlinser erkenne man daran, dass die rote Raute auf dem Blendenring nicht zwischen den beiden '4' steht, sondern exakt auf der '4'. Ich kann dazu nichts sagen, weil ich mein 1.4/50 zugunsten des 1.8/85 verkauft habe;-))
I have a younger (1967-1969) version I'm really happy with. Razor sharp, beautiful boheh. I have only one gripe with this lens, what's not necessarily lens's fault; when I use it on aps-c cameras (Fuji in my case) with a cheap speedbooster / focal reducer, I can't use it for close ups wide open, course the sharpness is literally gone. It's a bit better at infinity, but not too much. However, given fow sharp it is when I use it with the "dumb", simple adapter without glass elements, I guess I'll have to get better (more expensive) focal reducer 🙄
Gruß...
Just pop a Toshiba closeup lens on it. The come in 4 packs. 1 through 4 in mag. Have fun.
a great lens,but the lack of multi-coating creates all sorts of problems.Lens flare can be a big headache.
Very nice review. Wel done.
I do hope you do realize that film is not an analog technology... I like your channel content though.
where can I buy it.. and how can I use this in Fujufilm x series camera..
Thank you i have just got a pentax .sp 500. And the same lens you have been talking about. Super -takumar 1:2\55 asahi opt. Co. I also have a xomura f=105mm1:2 sankyo kohki japan. Lens both screw mounts. I am waiting to get a battery for camrea. Light meter. Then try black white film. Can you do a talk on the sp 500 pantax camrea sometime.? So i know what i am doing? A kiost camrea bar would be cool in each city. Just to drop in have a coffie cup of tea cake. Old camreas on walls. Maybe rent dark room at back. THE APERTURE.CAMREACOFFIEBAR.?
Thanks for the video!
What is the song playing in background ?
Thanks for your kind feedback. I get my music from Epidemic Sound, a platform for UA-cam creators. The song is by Fabien Tell and called "Maroon". Hope this helps.
Interesting that you have reviewed a lens sent by one of the viewers. Maybe you're interested in reviewing some other Pentax rarities?
Keep in mind that this is a radioactive lens. It is slightly radioactive due to the use of Thorium oxide. It is quite safe for most people. Who wants to live for ever after all. Thorium offers great optical properties. After 80's for environmental and health reasons, all lens manufacturers replaced Thorium by the optically inferior but completely safe lanthanum.
These kind of radioactive lenses have a brown tint. Originally the lenses were clear. After some years the radio decay of Thorium creates gradually the brown tint. The brown tint can be easily and safely removed after some days with exposure to the sun's ultraviolet radiation. However the radio decay of Thorium continues and the brown tint will reappear again after some years.
Nearly all super Takumar lenses are made with Thorium and are best value for money. eBay is full of them at various conditions and prices.
The 8 element version contains no Thorium and is not radio active. However the seven element version is.
Hi, just to reassure you. The 8 element is not radioactive. I have one and have tested it with a meter. A lovely lovely lens.