England Kit Controversy is Insane
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What's crazy about it is that the three largest political parties in England have all expressed the desire to have it CHANGED BACK. They can't agree on something meaningful like shortening wait times for hospital patients, but they can all get behind a little colour change on an overpriced football kit. Wild.
There’s an election coming up, they say/do stuff so the less educated/working class agree and vote. It’s sound ridiculous but I studied politics for 4 years at uni and strange tactics like this are really common
Priorities, am I right? 🙄
Just an opportunity to gather some potential votes for upcoming elections. They don't actually give a damn.
They're being careful not to really piss off the peoples lives they've destroyed even more. Took away what it means to be English and now they won't even let them have their football lol
Problem with that is they said it doesn’t matter they’d be on the front page of a right wing rag (of which we have distressing overabundance) with the claims that they hate their country. They just can’t win on it
What's more outrageous than the flag is the price of the kit
Dhgate
Nike share price has been battered.
as an englishman its fairly depressing to see more outrage over this than the complete and utter desolation of the country's public services and governance. but hey...
You aren't aloud to talk about what has caused this decay
@@PikaDikaChu England is so cucked.
Yeah because if you talk about it you get called a racist, anti immigrant, etc.
@@PikaDikaChu what are you trying to say?
@@jbo4547only if your stupid enough to blame that decay on immigrants instead of the vicious cutting of social services under austerity policies.
The fact that EVERYONE of those tweets have a blue checkmark speaks volumes
You can buy the blue checkmark
@@JASPADIGHOSTthe only people who do that on twitter are elon musk fanboys, which is why it’s not at all surprising that they are all so triggered about a color change and think it’s “woke” lol
I mean, as far as I know the checkmarks get boosted up to the top of the responses, so under most tweets the top comments are all checkmarks
Someone verified on Twitter does not make their opinion correct
Ive never called myself a Yank to anyone except a to a British person.
And we have only called ourselves Brits to people from the States
14:10 Alfie cameo on zealandism 😮
Love it
Classic HITC sarcasm
The history of the word Yankee is super interesting. I went down this rabbit hole recently. The New Amsterdam colony was where New York is now. When it switched hands to the English, lots of people stayed. Interestingly, most dutch people who were there pronounced their names Yan or Kees (Dutch equivalent of John or Chris). The slang for people from New York by the British was a portmanteau of the two names, Yankees. I guess it stuck. Since the Revolutionary War, it was used to reference Northerners because the south still had strong ties to England because they were majority Anglican and picked up the slang.
That’s actually super interesting
I'd like to point out that this explanation is by no means viewed as correct. It's also suggested that it's an Anglicized form of the Dutch name "Janneke" which would be the diminutive version of Jan. (Like, John/Johnny.) It's also not definitively known who was dissing who with the insult, whether it was Southern Dutch slandering the Northern Dutch, the Dutch slandering the English, or the English slandering the Dutch.
All the posited definitions do seem to revolve around the Jan/Yan connections, so, it's kind of hilarious that everyone calling themselves a "yank" is calling themselves a John.
Go down the rabbit hole of second level cockney rhyming slang you go from tank - septic tank- septic and even people referring to themselves as listerene as they are anti septic (I know that's normally all one word)
New York JohnChrises
The saddest era to end is zealand’s running era :(
He needs to pick up some other goal so that we can bully him
One day I shall run again
@@Zealandism runnn!!
We can't see what he's doing with his legs.
In more shocking kit news, Germany will be wearing Nike from 2027.
Damn that actually is a suprise
Germany has their own outrage about pink kits from adidas
@@leoharjung8967 What's weird is the pink kits are surprisingly popular, at least from what I've seen.
Yeah the Germans are not happy 🤣
@@DMFroomeras a Scotsman we have had "salmon" kits multiple times and I remember this when we had our first in 2004ish. I think it looks great as a second kit as I prefer them to be interesting since the home strip is usually traditional but a bit dull
My dog named Waffles was so confused when Ze was yelling about hating waffles hahah
Harvey Elliot lifted his collar up in the U21 game 😂
fuck the kit controvery, i saw on insta today that the first one to sell out was the fucking 3XL. thats hilarious
So, I was in Japan last year, trying to cop a Japan national team kit for a friend of mine in the US. Apparently the kit sizes ran small, so the fact that the team had a pretty good run, and the small kits meant that I could find M and L sizes, but anything above that was impossible.
They make less 3XL dumby... that's like twice the amount of fabric than an S and it has to sell for the same price.
@@t.c.4321 bro they pay like 35 cents a year in wages to the children most likely i doubt it costs even 5% of the cost to make
Honestly the sizes of football shirts are wild, I bought one for my local team and the one that best fits my body was a 5xl because I'm 6ft 5 in the 250lbs range. I think kits just have a much broader size scope since normally I can wear 2xl 3xl just fine for normal wear
The middle glass pint chugging gammon who can afford it yeah
What if the real psyop was the friends we made along the way?
You should do a vid on why teams play in colours different to their national flag. There’s some interesting historical stories out there
I want to be on both sides because I find it funny to argue with people on the internet
Yeah fair point, if they did this to the spangled striped banner there would be complete outrage
I feel like the average American is way more patriotic
There is about 30% of the uk who would shiv you for suggesting they love the flag too much abd that none white people have rights
Not the average just the loudest 😂 honestly I think most people don't give af
@@willgreig4077 Yeah, like I live in America. Do I have an American flag outside my house? No, because I live in America. The house is part of America by default. I don't need to put a hat on a hat to display that an American lives in this house.
Not californians... they cry about their own flag... pathetic
@@imightbebiased9311 didn’t you pledge allegiance every morning in school?🤣
Our country is absolutely in the bin and people are losing their minds over some colours, couldn’t make it up. I don’t get why they’ve changed it but it also doesn’t bother me, people should be more annoyed about the pricing of the kit.
Agreed
Because much of England has made the English flag into something it’s not, just leave the flag. Nike as always can’t not just do something normal
@@artair70 Yeah Nike must’ve know they were baiting people into this sort of response, poor from them
@@Lintonz Considering Nike's increadibly poor track record and how hive the hive of England's political classes view the St George flag as an evil, Nike fumbled this, I don't buy kits myself but If they did this to Scotlands kit (Where I'm from) I'd be furious as well, some kits just don't land and that's fine (Looking at you Minecraft Liverpool kit) but if it's not broke don't fix it, you have to go out of your way to change the flag, it's by intention.
@@artair70 Yh englands political class, famous for being anti-nationalist ahahahahahaha
Zealand making a Civilization reference made my day!
All I hope is that people get so outraged that they don't buy it. That way I can get a beautiful kit at a discount!
Conservatives love to call people snowflakes and then proceed to react like this to the silliest things
Definitely.
Keir Starmer has said he wants it changed back too, that the flag isn't something to be toying with. So you've proven nothing.
@@willch.2259 He's right, though.
Zealand keeps saying "kernel of truth," and I'm now imagining a superhero named "The Colonel of Truth" going around forcing people to expose their surface-level thoughts.
The colours actually do mean something, tho it’s not for political reasons
Apparently Nike wanted to honour England’s 1966 WC win by referencing the kits from that year and they implemented those colours onto the cross
HOOOOOWWWWW DAAAAAARE THEEEYYYYY
Lol apparently inspired by the training jackets the actual kit in 66 was red and white.
It's irrelevant what they intended it to represent because what it doesn't represent is the flag of St George.
All Nike had to do was not post it and nobody would’ve noticed it 😂
This is exhibit #4728 that English and American people are more alike than eitehr side will ever be willing to admit lmao
Talk about Germany's change from Adidas to Nike. Even Germany's Minister of Health has critiqued the move
I'm anything but the most nationalistic person in the world, but if for whatever reason my country's flag changed colours, whether for political statements or whatever, I wouldn't like it either.
Exactly
The flag just "being changed" is obviously the smallest concern for most of the people getting mad at it, it is what the specific change makes them think of. Pretty obvious that it is baiting those who hate queer people (or the social media manager, as Zealand suggested, the actual changes might have been simply artistic)
Why though
@@ajprop99 Well. I am from Greece, a country that supposedly has a 99% Christian population. That number is nowhere close to being true though, with most people, myself included, being atheists, agnostics, or totally non practicing orthodox. However, the flag bears a huge cross. And despite me not caring about religion, that's a symbol that's being used for thousands of years now. It pretty much defines Greece, alongside the blue and white colours. And I really don't like it when it's changed for political reasons, whether that is replacing the cross with a swastika, a sickle and hammer, or turning the lines into a rainbow. I don't really care on what anyone wants to support, however I do take a problem in changing a country's flags to fit your needs.
Maybe I'm much of a vexillologist and I take much pride in flags, who knows 😁
And obviously, shall I add, there are thousands of more serious problems to be talked about first, not even a question there.
Dude its a tiny logo on the collar of a football jersey
Yeah, triggering people has been proven to not be a sound business desicion, some community manager at Nike is about to lose its job.
It’s actually very sound business, pissing people off is basically free advertising
There will always be someone offended by something no matter what you do.
the crest is on the flag but it is not the flag itself, you can also see it on the Milan and Barca badge so obviously it can represent multiple things. Nike should have just said it was a plus sign to support positivity
Modelo is owned by Grupo Modelo. Grupo Modelo releases their distribution rights for sales outside of Mexico. Constellation Brands owns the distribution rights in the US. InBev controls Modelo distribution outside the US. The Bud Light boycott shifted the market share in the US from InBev to Constellation Brands and Grupo Modelo. It wasn't the same company getting the money because InBev doesn't own Constellation Brands or Grupo Modelo.
That's going to go over his head.
I think something else as well with it is the relationship between national symbols and politics in England and the UK as a whole which has stoked it more. The fact that the 3 largest parties have asked for it to be changed back is also showing the changing perception of national symbols at the moment as well.
Something similar happend in Germany, where people were upset about the pink/purple kit because it is not masculine enough and does not represent the colours of the nation! 😂
people are crazy. 25% of my t shirts are purple, bordeaux, garnet... I don't feel more or less masculine with them on or off 🤨
Ey, that is a great looking kit!
I think Germany actually started this whole problem because the DFB released their pink kit with a statement of how it is supposed to represent Germany's tolerance towards everything. So people assumed it is just about getting political points and making up for what happened in Qatar (the "One Love" scandal for example).
I'm German and for me I just find the kit ugly. It looks like a goalkeeper kit to me. I really like the home kit though. Gives old school vibes.
The pommies whinging is a tradition that astounds me…
Some dude told me they had a Dutch flag on them after they somehow figured out I was from that ol' town, it was just a pansexual flag with weed in the middle. My friend told me I looked like Joseph Goebbels after he found out the camera guy was Jewish.
I don't get why they changed it, our flag is white and red. But it doesn't bother me that they have.
Because much of England views the St George flag negatively, thinking EDL types are the only ones who can use it, you've become offended in your own land.
You're all speaking Urdu anyway, so time for a new flag on Englandistan.
@@artair70that’s not true a noisy minority think only the edl can use it
@@safcjcp I never said such, to some it’s viewed negatively because of their inception
they changed it because the trim is blue, purple and red. that's it.
Yay we are no longer in mourning, we have lights!
14:30 That's Reading FC's. I think the logic behind that flag is that their nickname is the "Royals", and the O with the red dot in the middle is referencing the Royal Air Force's ensign.
Though I don't think there's a connection between Reading FC and the RAF, I believe the name "Royals" came from the fact that the club is based in the "Royal county of Berkshire".
To be fair I'm a Reading fan and that flag is still pretty confusing at first look lol
@@hareyblk oh true, Reading fan here too xD
Never once heard someone in the states (or Canada for that matter) say Yank
And then Zealand discovered that the new German away kit is pink and what people think about that.
“What the f is wrong with waffles?” 😅
German Kit Controversy is insane too
modelo is also more expensive, so they made even more
5:46 dude that scream sounds a lot like the Howard Dean scream!
Please read into germans similar topic with the new kit and changing the supplier from adidas to nike its truly mad
Also the flags at the end are to represent what part of england theyre from. Unlike the states where u have state flags we dont really have that. So people will show off there support as well as showing support for the favourite team but shows how it unites someone can have a united and a city shirt but for england that dont matter. (most people support the club theyre from besides ones that want to support a team at highest level)
Looked at the kit, shrugged my shoulders and thought “that’s weird” and moved on. Little did I know the outrage 😂 the fact the Tories and Labour have agreed on something though is revolutionary. I could imagine it would be like Democrats and Republicans agreeing on something!
Labor and the Tories agree on almost everything, it's harder to find what they disagree with each other on.
Just left school... Glad to have seen this as soon as it dropped❤
THE MESSAGE
Should have got Rick Astley to model the kit.
I do like the away kit bit i don't like the change personally to the cross, as you say Zea it looks a little off, and if was inspired by '66 training kits...then wouldn't it be better on a world cup eligible year?
Id just prefer if the cross remained red and then its a 10/10 than a 9/10, maybe ill still pick one up sometime
If you think it's wrong your entitled to your opinion but that means it wouldn't matter what reasoning they gave you.
Do you think though if it hadn't been highlighted in the way it was you would even have noticed when buying it?
@@simplesimonhadapie I think Zealand was very on the money in saying it was likely Twitter Bait in how it was shown, they knew it would cause a stir when it didnt mean anything in the manner twitter took it as
Also I did see the cross during the England Brazil game and yes...the red is very obvious and then it just looks like half the cross is missing. its like a very close up detail that looks bad at distance.
This is going to be nuts
Bro that modelo fact was hilarious
some things shouldn't be changed PERIOD
is it a big deal NO, they could have put a Pop emoji image instead and it would still not be a big deal for the game . Dont change something and then call it a Joke (playful)
PS: "playfull" is also the word the Bud light VP of marketing used before destroying the Brand
"This thread is the Venus Flytrap for racists" was my favourite comment under that post 🤣🤣
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You should do a video talking about the open cup and how a burrito shop owns an amateur soccer team that just knocked out Portland Timbers Academy team out
Well played Nike 👏
Box ticked ✅️
Social media attention ✅️
And it's actually a nice-looking kit ✅️
i don’t know how people don’t realize it’s literally just the colour of the kits
They have been taught that anything with colours of the rainbow on it is the devil's work
of course the bugman would say something like this
Croatia mentioned. Huge W today
so this "controversy" and video can be summoned up in 4 words... "its not that deep"
Ah, the green lights are back
It's nice to see these companies care about social issues. I heard they are playfully paying their employees good wages and letting kids actually play instead of working in their factories for $2 a month. Looking forward to the playful coloration of the Saudi Arabia flag. I am sure they won't be outraged as these tea sippers.
Funny the poms care, not like the previous kits brought tophies 🤣🤣
I couldnt give a shit what colour it is tbh. Whats annoying is we have one of the best looking away kits weve had in years and no one is talking about it.
These are the same kind of people that will unironically call other people snowflakes.
there's a big difference between being invasive and destructive compared to being traditional and preserving values that mean a lot to them. Stop poking the bear, there's a reason most people are sick of people like you.
I sometimes call us Americans “Yanks” in a self-deprecating way when I refer to my interests not commonly associated with Americans (soccer, Aussie rules football, Eurovision, etc)
EDIT: Also, “based ON,” not “off,” dammit!
Nike hasn't made a good jersey decision in 10 years. Probably made by fanatics anyway.
Something similar was done to the England kit in 2010. Only back then, no cared.
At first they came for the flags and I said nothing because i wasn't a flag.
This whole scenario is embarrassing to be English. This is off the back of blatant racism against members of the squad in comments on training pictures too. It’s absolutely horrific.
it’s laughable but can we just imagine it was the American flag they did this to?
there would be literal riots
I mean given it is Nike, it wouldnt surprise me lmao
I'd argue the fan flags aren't as bad as its just a few people, rather than a massive company selling it.
look at the like bar it is 911 or was 💀💀💀
5:58 the term you're looking for is 'flag-shagging'
He keeps saying its weird to him they changed the flag, but wont explain how its weird to him.
In fairness, I don’t care about the flag on the kit very much. But it’s not a fair comparison to the flags on display at England matches in tournaments. Most England followers have parts of their identity on the flag, usually a club they support or the county they come from. You may see the Royal Air Force badge on them as well, (which was the flag you didn’t know) incorporating your club into the St George flag isn’t a “new take” like the Nike thing, as I said it’s a way of showing allegiances to more than one thing
These are trophies for foreign hooligans to this day because it’s literally a game of ‘capture the flag’
The Barrys are revolting again
If there's no meaning, why do it? Makes no sense to me
Controversy and drama >>>> trophies
Zealand is on the Nike payroll!
That pancake bit caught me by surprise, I spilled out my water in my lap lol. Thank you for the good laugh!
What do you have against coffee???
they haven't said that it means anything and it doesn't inherently. But it is pretty clear that they've done it on purpose and knew this would happen.
england fans like to constantly remind others of 1966 until it affects their kit i guess
"Playful update to thr Stars and Stripes," my Brother in Christ, have you not seen any student section at a decently large high school? Espically where I'm from, South Louisiana, every single high school student section worth anything had a unique twist on the US Flag to make it represent their high school. EVERY ONE. Almost reminds me of the England NT matches with the unique club flags hung up in the 2 and 300's.
There have been designs and variations of the British and English flags (and plenty others) by foreign companies for as long as I can remember. This is just the inevitable conclusion of that. Like you say the post was pure bait as well
Also apparently the colours match or are close to some LGBT+ flag, so you can guess where a lot of the hate is really coming from
Honestly, the backlash makes me like the kit more! We’ve got a massive issue in England and the UK with right-wing people and politicians using the flag(s) as a cover for racism, plastering themselves with union and St. George flags to show how much they ‘care’ about the nation, an ‘care’ that usually goes no further than them wanting foreigners or people of different ethnicities (and even sexualities) to repressed or removed. The flag and the national anthem have never represented me because of the people they’ve been claimed by, so I’m all for it being changed!
After making one the the best African national kit for Nigeria they now start a controversy in England......
The stupid things people do for laundry.
Please look into the reactions to Germany‘s away shirt (iTs gAy!!!1!!) and end of contract with Adidas after 75 years (not related).
the playful update to the american flag is the thin blue line shit lmao
So would saying "Red Coat" be the version of an American impersonating somone British. I'm just a curious Yank
No, you guys call us “Brits” to shorten the word “British” (maybe due to lack of knowledge, who knows) so we call you yanks because it gets under your skin, simple as that. And also a lot of the English Right wouldn’t mind being called red coats at least that actually references our colonial past (something that’s being slowly wiped out by the progressive left)
@@lb_75You guys use yanks as an insult? lol
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As a brit my response to it was initially a little defensive mainly on the side of 'its not political is it... no... no? surely... i'm going to hope no.' but i also thing that the twitter post was pure bait and people just ran with it. On the whole i would rather it was just a red cross there, even if it had the bit of 'flavour' with the different shades of red, but i kind of think it just looks bad, and when you are taking a flag, that people are incredibly defensive of and changing it, especially to what i personally dont like, i thing there is always going to be backlash.
However all that to say its insanity that in a world where there are so many problems this is the one that the politicians are responding to within 24 hours of it happening and is being directly fought publicly including by news companies.
edit: remembered after typing, for the changing it to add things like the bury FC and such i think it fits in a different category, partially because i've then seen these same flags at club games in the league, but also i think its more a 'things i love flag' so people are like well he loves his country and he wants to shoutout his club at wembley, fair play to him.
Funny how Argentina literally had the purple kit in the World cup that has a political meaning based on gender equality and changed the color of the Sun of May from gold to silver so it blends better and people were like "Oh cool, anyway the kit is pretty"
The other hilarious reaction that you didn’t mention was like:
Person 1: I don’t like the change they made to the flag.
Person 2: wHaT aRe yOu tRiGgErEd SnOwfLaKe?!?!?
I dont think they should have changed it. But for the people who think they changed it for political reasons, what political stance do u think nike are trying take with this change
Well for one, Nike does to much of this type of stuff as a statement, I worked in design for a few major companies, the amount of people you have to go through to get one minor thing changed is insane, so that would mean there's many who already knew about the issue, most companies now are run part in part by activists, so YES they do change it for such reasons, I don't know the exact reason on this but, you just don't do this, ever. National flags and history are a big no no.
The easiest one to take from this is that Enlgand isn't a country, taking the symbols that represent a country and changing or destroying them is a very clear example to the people of that country that it will no longer be allowed to exist.
@@artair70 Most kits don't incorporate the flag directly for this exact reason. I suspect someone was trying to get clicks (regardless of whether it was paying homage or being artistic or trying to make a political statement) and has triggered half of England. Surely there are more important issues to address like the price of the kit recalled or not and the conditions it was manufactured in and why nobody can afford an apartment anymore.
Those colours do stand for that. It's the reason they were used. Obviously.
What do the colours stand for?
@@stevenisadragonI don't want to be controversial. and honestly, I don't care that they put it on. but those colours are the same as the bi pride flag. it's in a different order thou (IMO is a hilarious move)
I live in Canada a 15 minute drive to America. My favourite thing about going there is there’s literally an American flag EVERYWHERE!
Pancakes are nice tbf
SAY SOME SHIT ABOUT WAFFLES AGAIN!
(j/k pancakes are superior)
@@imightbebiased9311 here we go waffling on again 😉