Panasonic GX0 (Ultimate) 2019 - eBike motor review

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  • Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
  • Reviewing the new for 2019 Panasonic GX0, also known as the GX Ultimate. This is a 250W pedelec/ebike motor.
    #PanasonixGX0 #PanasonicGXUltimate #emtb

КОМЕНТАРІ • 38

  • @gilsteinbach7455
    @gilsteinbach7455 3 роки тому +1

    Nice to have this video which confirms several impressions I have while using this motor in my Flyer Upstreet5 7.10.
    From the beginning I felt that pedaling was to easy because I seldom felt a resistance make a real effort. So I reduced the 90Nm to 75Nm in order to feel a certain resistance in pedaling. That was a good decision and I increased the distance up to 150+ kilometers by doing so.To the 4 levels of assistance I made the following experiences: mode Eco is ok when you drive along a river, sometimes you can also change to « off ». Apparently you should mainly use « auto » which you describe as dynamic assistance, that seems ok for me. Sometimes I begin going uphill in « auto », then I change in « standard » because the assistance is steadier. Once I had to change to « high » and I worried that the assistance would not be effective as I had reduced to 75Nm. I was very astonished to notice that I got a real push in climbing, so I do not have to increase the power of the assistance to the initial 90Nm. When I consider the different levels of assistance as 1 eco, 2 standard, 3 auto and 4 high, I often go from 1 to 3 before changing to 2 and sometimes upgrading to 4, which is a little bit annoying although not a big problem. I am very happy with this motor, I even consider to reduce even more the power of the assistance, maybe down to 65Nm, as with my former ebike with a bosch motor.

  • @scottpratico1315
    @scottpratico1315 4 роки тому +6

    You do the best emtb reviews.

    • @abelramos8652
      @abelramos8652 4 роки тому +1

      Scott Pratico i agree. Not a bit of sensaciolism, very honest reviews

    • @abelramos8652
      @abelramos8652 4 роки тому +1

      EMTB Videos what about the ebike itself? Thank to you buddy!

    • @abelramos8652
      @abelramos8652 4 роки тому +1

      EMTB Videos thanks. Im subscribed but i miss this one

  • @shiftymuckers6627
    @shiftymuckers6627 4 роки тому +1

    Like the start up tests you are doing, it really shows up the pick up of the motor to good effect 👍

  • @PornobrillenAli
    @PornobrillenAli 4 роки тому +3

    Can you make a video about the noise specifically?
    Those few seconds in this video are not enough to make a judgement.

  • @eScapes1
    @eScapes1 4 роки тому

    What a different world you ride in compared to here in Australia where it's hot, dusty and subject to bushfires.

    • @eScapes1
      @eScapes1 4 роки тому +1

      @@EMTBVideos You still ride in very different conditions to us. Wish we had more of your rain! Great review BTW!

    • @fredrikjoramo6753
      @fredrikjoramo6753 4 роки тому

      @@eScapes1 somewhere in the middle would be nice

  • @JohnQuilyQuinlan
    @JohnQuilyQuinlan 3 роки тому +1

    hey man, great upload, i was wondering if you could answer a question as you seem to know a bit lol, i bought a second hand ebike but without a battery, after i looked at the price over 400 euro for the battery for my model i gave up, my question is the motor is a pedelec Panasonic 250w 26v 10ah, do I need to use the particular Panasonic type fitting or can I build and install a battery another way on that motor or is it even possible (will it blow up) , I cant find anything online and this is a shot in the dark, I would really appreciate your knowledge and help on this, anyway thank you.

    • @JohnQuilyQuinlan
      @JohnQuilyQuinlan 3 роки тому

      @@EMTBVideos thank you, i bought the bike real cheap so I might just try that,appreciate your reply

  • @Accu53Mation
    @Accu53Mation 2 роки тому

    I'd like an extreme update of the Panasonic Ultimate. A industry leading light battery(700 watts), and add-to-it all the necessities that Bosch, Shimano, Brose, and Dyname, need-to-improve. As for all brands: Will Honda & possibly Harley-Davidson, enter the E-motor field? Only if the profit is attainable. And most e-bike reviews are by those whom are receiving the same equipment via the company. Nothing but a UA-cam commercial. Very few actual owners, are posting video reviews of e-bikes.

  • @chrismorkel8513
    @chrismorkel8513 4 роки тому

    Good review. What about efficiency, is it on par with the other motors? Just read an article where it doesn’t look so good.

    • @tjeers3098
      @tjeers3098 3 роки тому

      @@EMTBVideos I’m hoping to get a job with flyer in hutwil and I’m doing my research. I also wonder why Panasonic and why not? It seems nobody else works with them. But just maybe the had a exclusive deal with flyer? Also Panasonic is of coarse a brand that should be there and should be tickling the competition. Now it seams they finally arrived. Any thoughts?

  • @denesk2794
    @denesk2794 4 роки тому

    I think Pivot had the right idea how to smooth out the Shimano's missing mode:
    34 front with a 51 read 12x. You can climb most everything in ECO high. Trail is comfy and I don't think I used boost more than a couple of times in a Month.
    That said, My CX is useless in ECO, but if my Haibike had a 51 rear instead of the 42, probably the ECO would be similarly useful as on the Pivot.
    Even if manufacturers don't want the 12x, they could go with a larger (48??) rear and a smaller front, making the ECO useful for something. On my Haibike it is really just the "limping home" option while on my Pivot I use it all the time.

    • @denesk2794
      @denesk2794 4 роки тому +1

      ​@@EMTBVideos True. If not 4 levels, then they could give us 2 profiles you could switch on the fly.
      Sometimes I feel I want ECO mid/high and maybe a low trail and low boost.....
      Frankly I think all the Shimano "levels" work more like the Bosch "EMTB".....
      The Bosch ECO/Tour is very linear. But all the 3 Shimano levels are dynamic and they ramp up nicely, mostly at the right time.
      So I kind of want a 4th level or a "profile select" giving me 2x3 or 3x3, but I am also satisfied with what I have.
      On the Bosch CX I am missing a Sport + eMTB option to exist at the same time though.
      I am software engineer and also play with microcontrollers (as a hobby), so one consideration is how much space they have. I don't know if it is a couple calculations, or if they store complex curve data in there. Though I think since they have the 9 levels (eco/trail/boost) x (low/mid/high) already in the computer at the same time, adding a "profile select" would just choose between variations of the 3.
      So in software that would just add an index, something like
      profile[0]=(0,0,0) for low, low,low
      profile[1]=(1,0,3) for mid,low,high ....
      So I don't think it is a space issue there :O

    • @scottpratico1315
      @scottpratico1315 4 роки тому +1

      @@denesk2794 cool idea. I have been playing with the levels in the shimano app but this makes a lot of sense. I have pretty much settled on 0,3,3 (to use your annotation) I only use eco to limp home or of I am planning a long ride that requires maximum range.

    • @denesk2794
      @denesk2794 4 роки тому

      @@scottpratico1315 I think I am on high - mid - mid and that works with the giant 51t rear on the Pivot.
      It is really steep here everywhere. Costa Rican volcanic mountains and tropical heat :)
      And yep, I think it would be easy to add an extra menu where you can switch profiles.. 2-3 would be perfect.
      The other strange choice is ANT but not ANT+ ... would be great if cadence and power was sent to my Garmin (Vivoactive 3 currently after a Fenix 3)....
      Maybe it is some licensing cr@p, but frankly, we are talking about $1000 motors in $5-10K bikes. So if my watch/phone/table can have ANT+, so could my bike...

    • @scottpratico1315
      @scottpratico1315 4 роки тому +1

      @@denesk2794 I have a Commencal Meta Power HT with 11-42 cassette. Cheap and cheerful but not the best gearing for climbing in eco.

    • @denesk2794
      @denesk2794 4 роки тому

      @@scottpratico1315 you can easily swap in a bigger cassette for 80 or so. 11 speed 46 is standard now. But I have seen 48t 11speeds

  • @Quattro5081
    @Quattro5081 4 роки тому

    Flott test!. Hvilke sykler bruker denne motoren?

  • @christopherkennedy2058
    @christopherkennedy2058 4 роки тому

    I collect vintage classic tank bike cruisers. I live in Sydney, AU. Primarily I use my bicycles for cruising on public bike paths and roads. I am however trying to source some smallest mid-electric Drive to accommodate within the mid-section of the frame of my bikes. Is there an e-Motor drive on the market, smallest in size (similar to 'Panasonic GX0 Ultimate' in Specifications) which would allow me to retrofit in mid-section of existing bike frames? The average diameter of chain pedal crank chassis area is 55 mm to retrofit eDrive. ALL comments would be APPRECiATED. Thank You in advance.

  • @DKLVE
    @DKLVE 4 роки тому

    Maybe it's the price.....As you explain the motor is " pretty good " so why not other brands using it?
    What about the drag after the motor decuoples? Is there any?

    • @DKLVE
      @DKLVE 4 роки тому

      @@EMTBVideos thanks man, as usual great video💪👍

  • @jarikinnunen1718
    @jarikinnunen1718 4 роки тому

    Brake switch is useful to control power quickly, wiht full power mode.

  • @tjeers3098
    @tjeers3098 3 роки тому

    Watching now.

  • @tjeers3098
    @tjeers3098 3 роки тому

    What about Panasonic gx0 compared to ep8?

  • @8664antonio
    @8664antonio 4 роки тому +1

    thanks.

  • @chriskros8858
    @chriskros8858 4 роки тому

    The most important is cost and difficukty kevel for derestricting.

  • @borky2489
    @borky2489 Рік тому

    Hi, do you know any android app. to change panasonic ultimate settings e.g torque, max speed etc... thanks in advance for some tips

    • @EMTBVideos
      @EMTBVideos  Рік тому +1

      I don't know unfortunately. I haven't ridden a Panasonic motor since 2019. But I guess it's time they put out a new motor soon, so it's time I got to ride one again!

  • @jonassplettstoesser1095
    @jonassplettstoesser1095 3 роки тому

    thanks a lot

  • @emtbtrailrider539
    @emtbtrailrider539 4 роки тому

    Really better than the Brose motor, I doubt it