it's really gentlemanly of Ben to defend Ben Lyons the way he did, and I mean that sincerely. I was a huge At the Movies fan for many years and I loathed the guy as much as everyone else did, but Ben Mankiewicz has nothing but respect coming from my end
Roger Ebert will be remembered for being a titan of film critique, he revolutionizes what it meant to be a film critic, it's more than simply saying if a film's good or not but understanding, enjoying and examining why this film worked or why it didn't. He was beloved by all because of his gregarious and welcoming nature and that he was always willing to take a chance on people and new things. He will be awfully missed as there is now a huge hole in the film industry that wont be ever be
I like how Ebert rated movies for their intended audience. For instance, I don't think he was much of a horror fan, but he would give ratings based on what he thought horror fans would like.
I loved the man for his love of film. When I first heard he had died, I wanted to laugh, but as soon as I went online to look it up, I was devastated. And this was on my birthday when I was having a great time with friends, but when I realized that one of the greatest critics ever died on my birthday, I felt so sad the entire day. I will always respect the man for his craft and his reviews will continue to be an inspiration to me.
Agreed. If you're not going to do it up right, don't do it at all. The life, work, and continuing influence of Roger Ebert is worthy of an extra two or three (or ten) minutes of this panel's time. The man deserves a little more respect.
All movie critics, and those who love to watch and read movie criticism, owe Roger Ebert a debt of gratitude. He was a pioneer that not only popularized movie criticism - making it more accessible to the masses than ever before - but he also turned it into an art form and a form of entertainment in its own right. I disagreed with a lot of Ebert's ratings, but I always relished his eloquent and humorous criticism. He taught me to look deeper into films, and he will be missed.
I almost never agreed with his movie reviews, and took exception to his assertion that games could never be art in the same way as cinema. However, he was very outspoken about other more important issues and I agreed with him for the most part on those. R.I.P.
One hell of a shot fired at Richard Roeper by Alonso! Christy: "I wanted to be the new Richard Roeper" Alonso replied: "Aim higher"... I love this damn show
Honestly, the only two critics I ever made a point to tune in on, were Roger Ebert, and now Christy. I feel like they have a certain level of sophistication and integrity.
I became a film fan around the time when M. Night Shymalan made The Last Airbender came out. I had never been so excited for a movie and so interested in what other people thought of a film I wanted to see. I had recently discovered At the Movies and had been watching it around the time when Both Ben's were gone, I saw most of AO Scott and Michael Philips and I loved watching it, I also because the show aired on public access near my home I saw a lot of the reruns of Roeper and a handful of the Ben's episodes and again just because it was smart people talking about something I loved, I loved it. Then I saw the end with Christy Lemire and Ignatiy. Its a show I miss and I would love it if they did a video talking about why it was so bad for Ben Lyons and that whole thing and why Ebert picked this guy to take down.
replaced. But people can honour the legacy of Ebert but being fair and even handed in their reviews and give films no one sees or wants to a chance and to fight these habit now to be so cynical and negative to the current of state of film now. Roger entertained everyone by taking them on an adventure to see the wonders of the movies, lets try to get back to that.
Ben Lyons was Ben Mankiewicz's co-host for" At the Movies" after the format of the show had changed. Ben Lyons worked for E! and just wasn't experienced and didn't do much to add anything interesting to the show. Roger Ebert pretty much said in a nutshell that Ben Lyons was unsuited to sit in his chair, review movies, and help change "At the Movies."
If I had to guess, I'd assume it was because the TYT studios are shared among many different shows and people who work on those shows. They have to produce a large amount of content there every day, and each minute that one show runs over their time, another show gets pushed back. Knowing how much everyone there respects each other, I can't help but think that they are hyper aware of this fact, and make sure to not take more than their fair share.
I LOVE Roger Ebert... & Siskel & Eberts show, it was ahead of its time... BUT there was an era not many bring up - Their Agenda AGAINST Horror Movies, Roger gave "Last House on the Left" 3.5 stars, but in less than 10 years because of Siskel they had a hardcore agenda against horror films, watch any of their 80's horror reviews & disliking a film is fine, but the soapbox, the letter writing, the naming of executives... etc
It's less well known that besides being a nonpareil critic & a truly down-to-earth celebrity, Ebert embodied the largely-bygone mythos of a big city newspaperman, whose natural environs were not the ivory towers but the low brow streets & haunts where his life off-hours was as legendary as his writing & reporting. Read Ebert's account of this, namely through one tavern, O'Rourke's, & its patrons, some more famous than others but colorful all rogerebert(.)com/rogers-journal/a-bar-on-north-avenue
Well, other than my knowledge of, or lack of, the sixties and Russ Meyer, I hated "Beyond the Valley of the Dolls." It was like a nightmarish version of "The Rocky Horror Picture Show" without the music.
I think they could have spoken longer than 7:46 about Roger Ebert. Yet, they spent 15 minutes reviewing 42. The format of whatheflick doesn't make much sense.
how sweet. Why do you say "I know we have to go"? Is there a legal limit on review times? Was the parking meter expired? If you're having a good conversation, as this was, why truncate it?
But how can you hear a voice when it's a super high pitched squeaky sound. If it wasn't a fart it was some background noise from something. No way it was a voice.
someone indifferent would've ignored my comment, by replying to me you reveal your concern about what I wrote, I suggest you look up 'cognitive dissonance'
Mean to Ben Lyons?! Lyons was one of the single worst TV film critics in history. He may be the nicest guy in the world but he was absolutely dreadful at his job. I don't know how anyone can defend that. If a critic thinks Will Smith's "I Am Legend" is "one of the greatest movies ever made," s/he may be in the wrong field of work.
Well, Ben M. was okay. It was Ben Lyons who wasn't a critic and not fit for the job, along with other things. But Ben M. is not to blame for the fiasco-Disney is.
i got some respect for alonso as a critic, i like bens political commentary but altogether i stopped watching this WTF channel/show 4 or 5 months ago. it so often validates the stereotype of the critic as an inconsistent talking head rambling about story problems in epic/demanding films, yet they rate garbage like GI joe2, battleship, jack the giant slayer, the help, haywire, piranha 3d, MI:4, hotel transsylvania & bloody TWILIGHT higher than dark knight rises, cloud atlas or the hobbit.
Haha you're acting like this is some serious philosophical debate now or something. All I'm, saying is that's what I heard and no matter how hard I try I cannot hear anything else - which is usually not the case. Expectation can make me hear almost anything. But not a human voice in this case.
Ben Lyons is a decent guy but man was he terrible on the show. He was completely out of his element on the show. At least Ben Mankiewicz would offer a bit of analysis to his critiques. Lyons wouldn't have any analysis on why he liked a movie. It was always, "Because the cinematography was awesome." Or "this actor did a great job" or "I don't like it because it was too dense and layered for me." His worst quote must have been, "I Am Legend is one of the greatest movies of all time."
It's not that high-pitched at all. It's a kind of nasal-sounding "uh-huh" or "mm-hm" and well within Christy's vocal range. Yes, it sounds a bit weird, but it's not "squeaky." Also, a fart, which is what you initially claimed the sound was, does not sound squeaky. I can't discuss this with you anymore because now you are starting to contradict yourself.
Haha, he's just not that good of a film critic at all to me. To bad his father Jeffery Lyons skill set did'nt pass down to him, because he was a very good film critic.
it's really gentlemanly of Ben to defend Ben Lyons the way he did, and I mean that sincerely. I was a huge At the Movies fan for many years and I loathed the guy as much as everyone else did, but Ben Mankiewicz has nothing but respect coming from my end
You get points in my book Ben for pointing out reality as it was and acknowledging it takes a big man.
Roger Ebert will be remembered for being a titan of film critique, he revolutionizes what it meant to be a film critic, it's more than simply saying if a film's good or not but understanding, enjoying and examining why this film worked or why it didn't. He was beloved by all because of his gregarious and welcoming nature and that he was always willing to take a chance on people and new things. He will be awfully missed as there is now a huge hole in the film industry that wont be ever be
Truly a great and most humble man. His writing touched the cosmos like few classic authors. It was passion and zeal for life itself.
I like how Ebert rated movies for their intended audience. For instance, I don't think he was much of a horror fan, but he would give ratings based on what he thought horror fans would like.
Kind words for Roger Ebert who will be missed. May he R.I.P.
I loved the man for his love of film. When I first heard he had died, I wanted to laugh, but as soon as I went online to look it up, I was devastated. And this was on my birthday when I was having a great time with friends, but when I realized that one of the greatest critics ever died on my birthday, I felt so sad the entire day. I will always respect the man for his craft and his reviews will continue to be an inspiration to me.
Agreed. If you're not going to do it up right, don't do it at all. The life, work, and continuing influence of Roger Ebert is worthy of an extra two or three (or ten) minutes of this panel's time. The man deserves a little more respect.
All movie critics, and those who love to watch and read movie criticism, owe Roger Ebert a debt of gratitude. He was a pioneer that not only popularized movie criticism - making it more accessible to the masses than ever before - but he also turned it into an art form and a form of entertainment in its own right. I disagreed with a lot of Ebert's ratings, but I always relished his eloquent and humorous criticism. He taught me to look deeper into films, and he will be missed.
I almost never agreed with his movie reviews, and took exception to his assertion that games could never be art in the same way as cinema. However, he was very outspoken about other more important issues and I agreed with him for the most part on those. R.I.P.
One hell of a shot fired at Richard Roeper by Alonso! Christy: "I wanted to be the new Richard Roeper" Alonso replied: "Aim higher"... I love this damn show
Well, it's been cancelled.
Honestly, the only two critics I ever made a point to tune in on, were Roger Ebert, and now Christy. I feel like they have a certain level of sophistication and integrity.
My exact sentiment!
it made us as film critics in our own way and loving film with a passion for film like Roger Ebert did
I love listening to your guys's stories! It's a great and an inspiring thing to hear [=
I became a film fan around the time when M. Night Shymalan made The Last Airbender came out. I had never been so excited for a movie and so interested in what other people thought of a film I wanted to see. I had recently discovered At the Movies and had been watching it around the time when Both Ben's were gone, I saw most of AO Scott and Michael Philips and I loved watching it, I also because the show aired on public access near my home I saw a lot of the reruns of Roeper and a handful of the Ben's episodes and again just because it was smart people talking about something I loved, I loved it. Then I saw the end with Christy Lemire and Ignatiy. Its a show I miss and I would love it if they did a video talking about why it was so bad for Ben Lyons and that whole thing and why Ebert picked this guy to take down.
They weren't bad, but by then the ship sailed. And they also didn't bring back the balcony.
It's quite intentionally a surrealist film and is now regarded as a classic of that genre.
I agree!
what was the story ben was talking about with Ben Lyons?
replaced. But people can honour the legacy of Ebert but being fair and even handed in their reviews and give films no one sees or wants to a chance and to fight these habit now to be so cynical and negative to the current of state of film now. Roger entertained everyone by taking them on an adventure to see the wonders of the movies, lets try to get back to that.
Ben Lyons was Ben Mankiewicz's co-host for" At the Movies" after the format of the show had changed. Ben Lyons worked for E! and just wasn't experienced and didn't do much to add anything interesting to the show. Roger Ebert pretty much said in a nutshell that Ben Lyons was unsuited to sit in his chair, review movies, and help change "At the Movies."
If I had to guess, I'd assume it was because the TYT studios are shared among many different shows and people who work on those shows. They have to produce a large amount of content there every day, and each minute that one show runs over their time, another show gets pushed back. Knowing how much everyone there respects each other, I can't help but think that they are hyper aware of this fact, and make sure to not take more than their fair share.
I love Alonso. "That's a sports reference."
Where did Matt go?
There is no one whose opinion I respected more than Roger Ebert ... even when he totally disagreed with me.
I can't even make that gel in my brain which suggests it can't be true. Expectation can make anything plausible fit the sound.
I LOVE Roger Ebert... & Siskel & Eberts show, it was ahead of its time... BUT there was an era not many bring up - Their Agenda AGAINST Horror Movies, Roger gave "Last House on the Left" 3.5 stars, but in less than 10 years because of Siskel they had a hardcore agenda against horror films, watch any of their 80's horror reviews & disliking a film is fine, but the soapbox, the letter writing, the naming of executives... etc
It's less well known that besides being a nonpareil critic & a truly down-to-earth celebrity, Ebert embodied the largely-bygone mythos of a big city newspaperman, whose natural environs were not the ivory towers but the low brow streets & haunts where his life off-hours was as legendary as his writing & reporting. Read Ebert's account of this, namely through one tavern, O'Rourke's, & its patrons, some more famous than others but colorful all
rogerebert(.)com/rogers-journal/a-bar-on-north-avenue
That is a nice suit...
Roger Ebert: "The guy who was wrong about Kickass."
None of them really knew Roger Ebert that well. Even Christy I don't think ever physically met him. It was all via email and phone I think.
He just did Ben Lyons's taxes. Ben Mankiewicz is the only person who is still willing to talk to Ben Lyons.
Head over to Left Field Cinema or Slate if you want to read reviews that reflect how it is generally viewed today.
Well, other than my knowledge of, or lack of, the sixties and Russ Meyer, I hated "Beyond the Valley of the Dolls." It was like a nightmarish version of "The Rocky Horror Picture Show" without the music.
I think they could have spoken longer than 7:46 about Roger Ebert. Yet, they spent 15 minutes reviewing 42. The format of whatheflick doesn't make much sense.
they are using the tyt set so there are a number of shows that have to filmed on that set everyday.
Okay, some movies are good and some are bad, but it's not really a cesspool of anything. When I read "cesspool of pornography," I started laughing.
how sweet. Why do you say "I know we have to go"? Is there a legal limit on review times? Was the parking meter expired? If you're having a good conversation, as this was, why truncate it?
Maybe this tribute was made after they'd finished reviewing movies and others needed the space for another show?
hey, 7 minutes to talk about rogert ebert when they spent 20 (yes: 20!) for every episode (yes: every episode) of both Game of Thrones or Mad Men.
Ok perhaps not appropriate but did someone fart at 6:34?
and of course he hasn't yet replied to you with a good counter-argument
The death of roger eberts chin
I liked I am legend.
"Beyond the Valley of the Dolls"? Seriously?
Spot on. Ebert was an absolute tool who couldn't see the difference between Rashomon and Schindler's List.
Ebert fanboys: another Saturday night and they ain't got nobody
But how can you hear a voice when it's a super high pitched squeaky sound. If it wasn't a fart it was some background noise from something. No way it was a voice.
someone indifferent would've ignored my comment, by replying to me you reveal your concern about what I wrote, I suggest you look up 'cognitive dissonance'
Mean to Ben Lyons?! Lyons was one of the single worst TV film critics in history. He may be the nicest guy in the world but he was absolutely dreadful at his job. I don't know how anyone can defend that. If a critic thinks Will Smith's "I Am Legend" is "one of the greatest movies ever made," s/he may be in the wrong field of work.
No, that was an odd-sounding "Uh-huh."
Looks like he is about to do someones taxes.
Yes, go learn something about the sixties, the history of film, and Russ Meyer.
Ben now looks a lot like Quentin Tarantino. WTF?
Ben wasn't the problem, the other Ben was.
+sha11235 Every Ben was the problem! Ask Han Solo!
Your idol ebert was a drunk who rotted to death
Well, Ben M. was okay. It was Ben Lyons who wasn't a critic and not fit for the job, along with other things. But Ben M. is not to blame for the fiasco-Disney is.
i got some respect for alonso as a critic, i like bens political commentary but altogether i stopped watching this WTF channel/show 4 or 5 months ago. it so often validates the stereotype of the critic as an inconsistent talking head rambling about story problems in epic/demanding films, yet they rate garbage like GI joe2, battleship, jack the giant slayer, the help, haywire, piranha 3d, MI:4, hotel transsylvania & bloody TWILIGHT higher than dark knight rises, cloud atlas or the hobbit.
Haha you're acting like this is some serious philosophical debate now or something. All I'm, saying is that's what I heard and no matter how hard I try I cannot hear anything else - which is usually not the case. Expectation can make me hear almost anything. But not a human voice in this case.
Same with me. Why would I want to hear a fart? lol..
Ben Lyons is a decent guy but man was he terrible on the show. He was completely out of his element on the show. At least Ben Mankiewicz would offer a bit of analysis to his critiques. Lyons wouldn't have any analysis on why he liked a movie. It was always, "Because the cinematography was awesome." Or "this actor did a great job" or "I don't like it because it was too dense and layered for me." His worst quote must have been, "I Am Legend is one of the greatest movies of all time."
Because a fart is funny and more exciting than the reality, which was a person affirming that she was listening...
It's not that high-pitched at all. It's a kind of nasal-sounding "uh-huh" or "mm-hm" and well within Christy's vocal range. Yes, it sounds a bit weird, but it's not "squeaky." Also, a fart, which is what you initially claimed the sound was, does not sound squeaky. I can't discuss this with you anymore because now you are starting to contradict yourself.
I care about movie critics. I do not care about you or what you have to say.
I listened wearing headphones, and I turned the volume way up. You just wanted to hear a fart and made something out of nothing.
Haha, he's just not that good of a film critic at all to me. To bad his father Jeffery Lyons skill set did'nt pass down to him, because he was a very good film critic.
haha. not very nice bro.
Ebert flopped at writing movies