28/28 I really am going to be sad when they are all over. I'm doing everything I can to just pay for training and just cant swing the monthly payments for MzeroA. So as someone who is trying to follow his dream despite the odds I truly thank you for all the information and help you give for free even to those of us that don't have the means to go farther. Your whole team is truly making the sky and ground safer for everyone. Have an amazing day!!
@@captainmike3557 agreed but if you work hard you can still achieve them, I have the money saved up for flight lessons, it took a while to do it. I also just went up once a month to keep the dream alive. Some people just have to work a lot harder at things to make it happen, doesn't mean you should just give up.
@@diyflightsim4246 Mike by the time you read this you probably have your license? How about an update. Smart to save your $$$ so you can fly several times a week and knock it out.
@@jcheck6 my instructor had some health issues and could not fly, and I reached out to the flight school and was told they would find me someone else and never got back to me. I was just in Michigan and took a flight at Barstow airport in midland MI. It was a blast. So I’m sitting about 8 ish hours. But will just keep trying, I won’t give up!
@@jcheck6 I tell everyone, there is no better feeling then being up there looking down and having no care of what’s going down under you. I’m always so free feeling up there. And always looking to the sky and waving at the planes going over me when I’m on the ground.
28/28!!! I prefer the side slip method, because it’s easier for me to do correctly. I’m terrible at crabbing, but as a low hour student, I have time to get better at it. Thank you to the Mzeroa team! YOU ROCK!!!!!
Both! Crabbing first and then transition into a slip. So you will be able to land on very high X-Winds. Moth people underestimate the amount the wind slows down near the ground.
28 for 28, Jason! I normally crab up to the transition then land using the side slip. At my home airport, the crosswind is almost always from the left. I have to make it a point to go out and find a runway with a crosswind from the right for the practice. Thank you so much, Jason. I’m sure going to miss the SPC at the end of the month. I will definitely consider MZeroA for a rating. 😊👍
Playing catch-up for yesterday, but I’m back on track. 28/28. I prefer crabbing, but several instructors talked me out of it because “it’s disorienting to passengers.”
28 for 28, although I'm catching up from a few days behind. I tend to be more of a side-slipper on short final, although I do both. Arguments can be made for both. As a tailwheel pilot, one thing is very important...you GOTTA keep that nose pointed forward on touchdown. Any sideload on a tailwheel airplane risks ground-looping, especially on pavement, which is less forgiving than turf in sideload situations.
28/28 Side-slipper, but you make good points so I’ll consider trying crabbing approaches. Oh, and obviously the right answer is strawberry jam and crunchy peanut butter. ;)
28 for 28. I prefer the crab method Most of my training with instructors was with this method. Tried once the slip method with an instructor. Would not be comfortable with passengers
Rather envious of all these training videos where people learn on 7000' runways with clear land for miles around... meanwhile here's me trying to learn crosswind landings on 2000x65' of potholed ancient runway at EGTR with a giant downslope, surrounded by huge trees 😫
28/28 Done many times in my glider, especially when 'Landing out'. In effect any landing in a glider is effectively a controlled crash. I always cringe when I see single engined planes flying at say 500ft, as at that height I would be constantly looking for likely landing sites, in fact at anything near 1000ft and i can glide to one, but power does not have much time to do that! Just saying.
Jason in West Texas we deal with crosswinds every day. In fact we don't know how to land in normal winds!😛Our normal level of cross winds are from 12mph on up (25-30mph). A normal day is 12-17, and you just have to learn how to deal with them in the very early part of your training. To answer your question it is a bit of both (crab and slip). I will crab for the first part of the final approach. Once I get stabilized on centerline, I then will dip the wing in the direction of the wind, release my crab, and get the nose pointed at centerline. I will adjust my dip of the wing and the rudder input until I am stable. I will hold this until touchdown. When dealing with a crosswind you must, repeat must, be stabilized. If you crab all the way in and then change direction to point at the centerline in transition, especially with higher cross wind speeds, you will be more than likely unstable as you go to set the tires down. In higher cross wind speeds you will be pushed off the centerline and are in danger of getting pushed off the runway during a crab only approach. This is my opinion naturally, but once you deal with increased wind speeds you need to adjust your technique to make sure your are a safer pilot. Cheers on the 31 day challenge!
Love the safer pilot challenge jason thanks for pushing aviation safety. Ive always side slipped because when i run out of aileron and rudder i know ive reached my max crosswind component and its time to go somewhere else.
I will typically crab until maybe 50' above the runway height and then transition to side slip, which puts me straight just before crossing the threshold. I don't agree with the "side slip the whole final technique" for several reasons: Plane is now not in coordinated flight which does many bad things, like lowering the stall speed, gives more error to the airspeed indicator etc etc. At 500' or even 300' AGL, the wind you are experiencing is most likely way different than the wind at 50' and especially at 0'. Why "correct" for conditions that you won't even see when closer to the ground, just fly the plane normally. I fly a low wing Piper Cherokee and so often what looks like a strong crosswind even on the windsock is a light cross wind where my wing is at touch down just 10' lower. That light crosswind at landing might have been a 20 kt crosswind at 500' or even 300'. I've tried the full final slip and you just keep reducing it reducing it reducing it until over the threshold when you discover the "real" amount of slip you needed all along.
28/28. I generally crab until short final but far enough out to where I have enough time to judge how much control input I need to correct for the crosswind
Thanks for sharing. I’ve used your videos throughout my training and I send my students your way when they have questions and I can’t answer them well enough!!!
I crab up to the start of the flare then cross control to set up the slip. The first student drill is to rudder the nose 5 degrees to the left without raising the right wing. Hold for 1 second then release back to straight and level. Now do this in the opposite direction. This drill teaches the student that we start with rudder and use ailerons as needed. Feet first! Then I would split the controls. The student concentrates on the rudder and I fly the yoke and power. After a few touch and go's we switch. I take the rudder and the student takes the yoke and power. When the student can handle both well, it's time to let the student take the entire landing. Oh, and it is actually easier to teach in higher cross winds so the student needs significant rudder and opposite aileron. When the student can do one wheel touch and go's in 15 kt cross winds, he is ready to solo in Wyoming. 5000 hr CFI&I 25000 hr+ ATP
I'm sad that I can see the finish line. It's time to pull some power out and put some flaps in for some slow flight. I want to milk every bit I can out of the next few days!
dipping the wing into the wind doesn't work if you go on to fly big jets with big engines. They have to land level in crosswinds, or they strike an engine or wingtip on the ground.
28/28 and did my first solo yesterday 🎉 Thanks for all the help!
Congrats on your first solo, PIC!
Congratulations!!!!!
Congrats!
Congratulations! Best day ever!!!
Congratulations!
Crab until short Final, then transition to Slip ("Straighten up and fly right" as my Instructor used to say) !
Love your energy and positivity Jason. A follower of your work for several years and with every video I learn something new. Thank you!
28/28 I really am going to be sad when they are all over. I'm doing everything I can to just pay for training and just cant swing the monthly payments for MzeroA. So as someone who is trying to follow his dream despite the odds I truly thank you for all the information and help you give for free even to those of us that don't have the means to go farther. Your whole team is truly making the sky and ground safer for everyone. Have an amazing day!!
@@captainmike3557 agreed but if you work hard you can still achieve them, I have the money saved up for flight lessons, it took a while to do it. I also just went up once a month to keep the dream alive. Some people just have to work a lot harder at things to make it happen, doesn't mean you should just give up.
@@diyflightsim4246 Mike by the time you read this you probably have your license? How about an update. Smart to save your $$$ so you can fly several times a week and knock it out.
@@jcheck6 my instructor had some health issues and could not fly, and I reached out to the flight school and was told they would find me someone else and never got back to me. I was just in Michigan and took a flight at Barstow airport in midland MI. It was a blast. So I’m sitting about 8 ish hours. But will just keep trying, I won’t give up!
@@diyflightsim4246 Sorry to hear and disappointed in the flight school. Like your positive attitude though. Good luck! It's one of our last freedoms.
@@jcheck6 I tell everyone, there is no better feeling then being up there looking down and having no care of what’s going down under you. I’m always so free feeling up there. And always looking to the sky and waving at the planes going over me when I’m on the ground.
28 for 28 here. I am still learning to crab and side slip to landing. Great video. Thanks Jason for all the effort you put in making this course.
28 for 28. I used to be afraid of crosswind landings, now I think my crosswind landings are better than my no wind or straight headwind landings.
28/28!!! I prefer the side slip method, because it’s easier for me to do correctly. I’m terrible at crabbing, but as a low hour student, I have time to get better at it. Thank you to the Mzeroa team! YOU ROCK!!!!!
Both! Crabbing first and then transition into a slip. So you will be able to land on very high X-Winds. Moth people underestimate the amount the wind slows down near the ground.
28 for 28, Jason! I normally crab up to the transition then land using the side slip. At my home airport, the crosswind is almost always from the left. I have to make it a point to go out and find a runway with a crosswind from the right for the practice. Thank you so much, Jason. I’m sure going to miss the SPC at the end of the month. I will definitely consider MZeroA for a rating. 😊👍
28 for 28 in 2023! I have always side slipped in a crosswind landing. One of they days I will try the crab. Thanks for the tip!
28/28 …still catching up. The taxing tutorial is very helpful-thank Jason & MzeroA Team!
28/28 crosswind landing critical skill to develop and practice. Thank you
28/28. Both; depends entirely on the wind and the airplane’s response.
Playing catch-up for yesterday, but I’m back on track. 28/28. I prefer crabbing, but several instructors talked me out of it because “it’s disorienting to passengers.”
28 for 28, although I'm catching up from a few days behind.
I tend to be more of a side-slipper on short final, although I do both. Arguments can be made for both. As a tailwheel pilot, one thing is very important...you GOTTA keep that nose pointed forward on touchdown. Any sideload on a tailwheel airplane risks ground-looping, especially on pavement, which is less forgiving than turf in sideload situations.
28 for 28. I always side-slipped when I was learning. Today I crabbed and that seemed to work well.
28/28! Love X wind landings. Crab down to flare for me
Always a great informative video
28/28 side slipper! And crunchy peanut butter!😂
28/28 Side-slipper, but you make good points so I’ll consider trying crabbing approaches. Oh, and obviously the right answer is strawberry jam and crunchy peanut butter. ;)
28 for 28 lm a crabber then side slip great video
At what point upon landing are applying right rudder to land parallel in 280 degree crosswind landing?
28 for 28: I am a crabber. Great video on the techniques.
28/28, Cool video!. I think I'll be a crabber.
28 for 28. I prefer the crab method Most of my training with instructors was with this method. Tried once the slip method with an instructor. Would not be comfortable with passengers
28 for 28. I would say I’m a crabber as I haven’t tried side slips to a landing.
28-4-28!!!😮🎉
28 4 28 - slide slipper
28/28 craber person better than misjudging distance and hitting a wing.
Rather envious of all these training videos where people learn on 7000' runways with clear land for miles around... meanwhile here's me trying to learn crosswind landings on 2000x65' of potholed ancient runway at EGTR with a giant downslope, surrounded by huge trees 😫
28/28. Side slip
28/4/28 ✈️👍❤️
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28/28 crabber
28/28 crabber.
28/28 Im a crabber for certain…
Wait for each one, 28428
28 for 28
Shouldn't you be watching out for other planes in the sky.
28/28 I usually slip all the way unless it is. Strong crosswind, the I usually crab.
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28/28 crabber
I am a crabber. I was an airline pilot for years and that is how we land! Crab then kick straight and drop wing.
28/28 Done many times in my glider, especially when 'Landing out'. In effect any landing in a glider is effectively a controlled crash. I always cringe when I see single engined planes flying at say 500ft, as at that height I would be constantly looking for likely landing sites, in fact at anything near 1000ft and i can glide to one, but power does not have much time to do that! Just saying.
Jason in West Texas we deal with crosswinds every day. In fact we don't know how to land in normal winds!😛Our normal level of cross winds are from 12mph on up (25-30mph). A normal day is 12-17, and you just have to learn how to deal with them in the very early part of your training.
To answer your question it is a bit of both (crab and slip). I will crab for the first part of the final approach. Once I get stabilized on centerline, I then will dip the wing in the direction of the wind, release my crab, and get the nose pointed at centerline. I will adjust my dip of the wing and the rudder input until I am stable. I will hold this until touchdown. When dealing with a crosswind you must, repeat must, be stabilized. If you crab all the way in and then change direction to point at the centerline in transition, especially with higher cross wind speeds, you will be more than likely unstable as you go to set the tires down. In higher cross wind speeds you will be pushed off the centerline and are in danger of getting pushed off the runway during a crab only approach. This is my opinion naturally, but once you deal with increased wind speeds you need to adjust your technique to make sure your are a safer pilot.
Cheers on the 31 day challenge!
28-28 These videos are great. Thank you.
28/28. All these amazing videos helped me in my first solo last week. Thanks MazeroA ❤
28/28. Crabber to side slip, but I gotta be honest, landing on one wheel in a low wing plane is still tough for me.
Love the safer pilot challenge jason thanks for pushing aviation safety. Ive always side slipped because when i run out of aileron and rudder i know ive reached my max crosswind component and its time to go somewhere else.
Interesting how you mentioned not adding flaps in a turn; I always avoid doing that.
I will typically crab until maybe 50' above the runway height and then transition to side slip, which puts me straight just before crossing the threshold. I don't agree with the "side slip the whole final technique" for several reasons: Plane is now not in coordinated flight which does many bad things, like lowering the stall speed, gives more error to the airspeed indicator etc etc. At 500' or even 300' AGL, the wind you are experiencing is most likely way different than the wind at 50' and especially at 0'. Why "correct" for conditions that you won't even see when closer to the ground, just fly the plane normally. I fly a low wing Piper Cherokee and so often what looks like a strong crosswind even on the windsock is a light cross wind where my wing is at touch down just 10' lower. That light crosswind at landing might have been a 20 kt crosswind at 500' or even 300'. I've tried the full final slip and you just keep reducing it reducing it reducing it until over the threshold when you discover the "real" amount of slip you needed all along.
28/28 and my answer to the first question is "yes". I use both, but honestly more often crab.
28/28. I generally crab until short final but far enough out to where I have enough time to judge how much control input I need to correct for the crosswind
28/28 crap during descend and transition for landing. Sideslip during the decent requires more power to control the decent.
was really crossy today.... i spent all morning doing short field cross wind landings lol
Thanks for sharing. I’ve used your videos throughout my training and I send my students your way when they have questions and I can’t answer them well enough!!!
28 for 28, sideslip, grape jelly, and crunchy peanut butter. Thanks for the help.
I crab up to the start of the flare then cross control to set up the slip. The first student drill is to rudder the nose 5 degrees to the left without raising the right wing. Hold for 1 second then release back to straight and level. Now do this in the opposite direction. This drill teaches the student that we start with rudder and use ailerons as needed. Feet first! Then I would split the controls. The student concentrates on the rudder and I fly the yoke and power. After a few touch and go's we switch. I take the rudder and the student takes the yoke and power. When the student can handle both well, it's time to let the student take the entire landing. Oh, and it is actually easier to teach in higher cross winds so the student needs significant rudder and opposite aileron. When the student can do one wheel touch and go's in 15 kt cross winds, he is ready to solo in Wyoming.
5000 hr CFI&I 25000 hr+ ATP
Great video instruction, thank you! By the way we wear coats, jackets, and hug blankets in 80 degree weather here in Texas. That is winter for us!🤣
Crab is safer. Crab takes more learning technique. Slipping a plane to the ground is the same technique to do a snap roll….hmmmmm
28 for 28. Have to bring the “challenge accepted” attitude with crosswind landings
Great videos...instructors should go out of their way to teach cross wind landings and takeoff...seek the wind and make your students more confident.
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28/28 didn't have yet a real crosswind landing, but I'm learning all available theory.
I'm sad that I can see the finish line. It's time to pull some power out and put some flaps in for some slow flight. I want to milk every bit I can out of the next few days!
28/28 I like both. I try to crab on final then slip right before touchdown.
28428.. Dive away is excellent instructions
dipping the wing into the wind doesn't work if you go on to fly big jets with big engines. They have to land level in crosswinds, or they strike an engine or wingtip on the ground.
28 for 28. You show try to land an Ercoupe with a good crosswind. Fun.
28 for 28. I used to crab now I’m learning to slip.
I crab until about 200-300 feet high, then transition to sideslip.
Both actually; I crab until 200 ft agl ish and then go to sideslip to land on axis and on centerline
I don’t get the crab people. You end up transitioning to a side slip on landing, so why not just maintain a side slip
As a student I'm being taught to side-slip into a crosswind landing
28/28, Thanks for the heads up, Keep it on the Center line..
28 for 28: I am personally a side-slipper kind of guy.
I’ve learned both. Prefer crabbing.
28 for 28! Enjoying the videos!
28/28 nicely done Jason. Crabber
I’m a Crabber. Thanks for Sharing.
28 for 28!
28/28 side slipper but need to learn to crab more! 🦀
28/28 I'm a crabber most of the time, I side slip from time to time
28/28. Crabber all day - easier to transition for me
Definitely like it ‘crab style’. 28/28
28/28. I love the videos. Thanks
28 for 28. Definitely a crabber.
I’m allergic to peanut butter :(
28/28. good info 😊
28 for 28 -- almost at the finish line !!!
28/28 side slips
28 for 28, I crab in a low wing and slip a high wing.
Crab and creamy/strawberry at 28:28
28 for 28 enjoying this
28 for 28. Crabber to a slip. 👍
28/28. Great subject.
@28. Pushing thru here!
28/28. Love your videos
Side slip but I can crab.
28/28 enjoy them all