Everyone has been mostly respectful and I really appreciate that. Please remember that they will know us by our love. ❤ we are always learning and nobody has been glorified yet. We were just blessed to be together with three men who have given their lives in service to the body of Christ. I honor such men and most here seem to also! Thank you all!❤
How awesome was that! I listen to Pastor Bob Yandian and I have been to some of Tony Cooks meetings. And of course I daily listen to Rick Renner minister.
I appreciate your comment, I believe in giving honor to those that honor is due, it is safe for us and the culture is sure in need of it today, thank you for your respect for these men who have dedicated their lives to teaching God's Word to help the body grow ❤
The apostle Paul made it very clear that we are not to be focused on the rapture. We are to be focused on our earthly ministry. What God has called us to do. Nothing else.
Absolutly agree, Im hearing nothing but silence from the church on this subject, rapture deniers are louder, teaching a deception. Im stunned to hear this ministry’s view on this topic. This pre-tribulation rapture should be screamed all the louder, for we are the final fig tree generation. The gospel needs to be preached with an element of fear attached to it. Hell is real and so is the rapture, most of the church will be caught off guard. But ye brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief ( 1 Thess 5:4 ) thinking of this compels us to live Holy. Prophesy is our ark being built, and its complete. In Noahs day they watched the ark completed and the door closed and still believed not. WARNING of imminent rapture is at the top of my list, prepare!
People.... including the church, have watched too many movies and think that's how the Rapture takes place INSTEAD of what God's Word says !! They believe in the movies more than what God's Word says.
I am so encouraged by your comment and many others, I also recognize that you read after Rick Renner. We were just blessed with three awesome men of God. As for me it got to me at a moment that I needed to be encouraged from a world gone crazy! Thank you my friend!❤
Amen and Amen. Thank you men of God that was so powerful. May All be blessed and highly favored for the work you have been doing and are doing for the body of Christ.❤
I believe we should think, talk about the rapture daily bc this is where the world is at, the end of the end of time. Encouraging!! Living in the reality of the return of Christ!! Occupying saving souls, leading people to Christ!!! At the same time enjoying His grace, living in abundance and looking for our soon coming king
I really appreciate the lesson I get annoyed with preachers that don’t talk about it. You can just tell with the way the world is heading it’s soon. But I also have found so much focus on when isn’t going to help your walk with the lord. Keeping your eye on Jesus really makes the world much easier and god directs your focus.
We are praying for and take authority over the heaviness of the depression and oppression that is trying to rob you from the wonderful future Jesus has for you! Please reach out to us so we can pray for you more personally! We would love to hear from you! Call us at 1.800.742.5593 or email at social@renner.org. -Team Renner
Revelation 11:15 KJV And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
The dead in Christ shall rise first...when? At the last trump. When does thec7th angel sound? What happens immediately afterwards? Psalm 91 gives us a look at how to be in the midst of turmoil and be protected.
And wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times, and strength of salvation: the fear of the Lord is his treasure(Isa 33:6) Amen! "only the Kingdom of God keeps getting better(Thanks to one and all)
My brothers, it appears that some of you will be alive to see the Church enter into the final 7 years. So, are you going to tell all the saints, that believed your teaching, that there was going to be a pre-tribulation rapture, that you were silly to have believed and taught it. They will be counting on you to just be totally honest. God Bless
G.Grennell You are wrong on the timing of the rapture. In Matt 24 Jesus told his disciples, the founders of the church, that he would return "after the tribulation", and told them to teach those things to the church they would be founding. That is good enough for me!!!!!
the spirit bodies of the physically dead saints enter into those dead saints when they are resurrected at the rapture - true? If true, where do those spirit bodies come from? Does not mention this in 1 Thessalonians. At the second coming, the spirit bodies of the saints return with Christ from heaven.
Question: Will You Go To Heaven First Among The Dead? 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: AND THE DEAD IN CHRIST SHALL RISE FIRST: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Tata, thank you for your question! We invite you to email your question to social@renner.org so our team can give it the care it deserves. We look forward to hearing from you! -- Team Renner
Yes it’s starting to happen they are disrespecting us right now but it’s not as bad as other countries we aren’t being killed but I’ve been told I don’t want to hear it
These guys are some of my favorite Bible teachers but the Rapture is NOT going to happen in our lifetime. Nor in the next few hundred years, saints. The Rapture is still 1 THOUSAND YEARS AWAY from now. God gave man the Lease of Dominion (Genesis 1:28), to rule on Earth for 1 WEEK, that is, 7 DAYS. We have lived 6 DAYS, in the Mind of the Father, from Adam until now. We have 1 MORE DAY TO GO (i.e. 1 thousand more years), then that lease will expire (Revelation 11:15). So the Rapture will NOT occur until somewhere at the beginning of the 3OTH CENTURY, family. Time will prove this to be a fact. Also, Brother Cook said that the last days began on the Day of Pentecost. But Paul insisted that the last days began with the First Coming of Jesus (Hebrews 1:1,2). And John says that the last days will end with the Second Coming of Jesus. (Revelation 1:7). In response to what Pastor Bob said about why Jesus cannot come back yet, He cannot come back until the Lease of Dominion, given by God to Adam, then forfeited into the hands of the devil, expires, which will be another 1 thousand years from now (Matthew 8:29; Acts 3:20,21). Also, why would Pastor Bob say angels only rejoice over things that are eternal? Why would an angel of God NOT rejoice to see a believer healed of cancer or promoted on a job or publish a book for the Kingdom, etc., seeing these are all good things? Where in Scripture did he see that, that angels ONLY rejoice over eternal things? That's quite a stretch. Respectfully.
The rapture is also referred to as the catching away of the church but it is going to happen, we must walk In love. Especially with fellow believers and then those who are in the valley of decision, I honor those who teach the fundamentals and I am always learning..I am aware that God spoke through a donkey with Balaam
I didn't intend for that to come across sarcastic, if you read it like that I apologize, it truly wasn't intended that way. I often times tell God I know that He can use me and remember that He used a donkey so I am qualified ❤
Ok, help me here.....you say, when I was in high school this stuff freaked me out. Then you say you're ok with it today! Of course you are, you're old and ready fir death. But let me tell you as a mom to teenagers and young 20 somethings, nothing's changed, they're still freaked out and don't want to acknowledge it. I think it us right for you olders to recognize and acknowledge this!
If people would only study Gods word. This is what Paul said about the Resurrection (Rapture) 2Thes2:3 Let no man DECEIVE you THAT DAY CANNOT HAPPEN until the MAN OF SIN (Anti-christ) is REVEALED. So, where is he if the rapture can happen any second? Now let me ask you. The Lord will return as a THIEF. You either believe this is when he returns to the earth or in the clouds. IT DOESNT MATTER. Now read 2Pt3:10 The day of the Lord so cometh as a THIEF, in which the heavens pass away and the earth burned up!!! How simple is that???
Peter's "Day of the Lord" happens when ALL ELEMENTS are destroyed. Heaven and Earth pass away. Then the Great White Throne Judgement happens. Joel's Day of the Lord happens at midpoint when Satan is cast down and the AntiChrist desecrates the temple. Paul's Day of the Lord comes when THEY are saying, "Peace and Safety", then sudden destruction comes on THEM and THEY won't escape. Luke likens it as a snare on THEM. All elements aren't destroyed with Paul and Joel's Day of the Lord events.
2 Thessalonians 2:6-8 KJV And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. [7] For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. [8] And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: ^^^ Apostasy in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 was always translated DEPARTURE until the KJV translated it "Falling Away". German and French Bibles STILL translate it as DEPARTURE today.
We must be born again. You are born again when the Holy Spirit in you don’t let you sin anymore. When you still sin you are not born again. 1 John 2, 1 John 3, Romans 6:6, Romans 8, Gal 5, Eph 4 , Eph 5 and Titus 2:14! To become born again you have to repent and ask Jesus forgiveness for your sins or ask Jesus in your heart
Matthew Chapter 13 kjv....tells us by the word of our Lord, there is NO such thing as rapture! As a matter of fact, Revelation 18:4 kjv....is the Last day, the End!
Philippians 3:20-21 KJV For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: [21] Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself. ^^^ What do YOU call it when Jesus CHANGES our vile bodies to be fashioned like Jesus's glorious risen body? I call it part 1 of the Rapture. Part 2 is the shout to gather us in the clouds to meet Jesus face to face in our glorious risen body fashioned like Jesus's glorious risen body.
@@tmcge3325 if YOU want to actually believe Paul was addressing judgment trumpets at last seal, that is what I call "Word search theologeon". You mindlessly read judgment trumpets in Revelation and believe God would give his glory to an angel, that's actually laughable
@@tmcge3325 God personally changes the Body of Christ Church. No one is changed at the last judgment trumpet in Revelation. It was a close to the Tribulation and the beginning of the Millennium Age.
@@Pre-Tribulation Last Trumpet.....go to Revelation and find the Last Trumpet. You will NOT find an 8th Trumpet....go Read Joshua (Yeshua short for Yehoshua) Joshua Chapter 6 kjv. Yeshua took over from Moses and led the children into the promise land, Yeshua our King and High Priest will lead us into the promise land. Ecc 1:9 kjv. Hebrews 9:27-28, 10:30, 1 Corinthians 15:51-58 & please read verse 20-24 kjv (at his coming, then cometh the end). Why do you NOT believe him? The verses you gave me, they have nothing to do with an early exit called rapture. Sad!
So interesting. But there is no passage in context that actually teaches a pretrib rapture. That should send up warning flags for us. Isn't it just wishful interpreting? False teachers.
@Mike65809 While I agree with you on the point that there is no pre-trib rapture, this is not a salvational issue; as long as these gentlemen teach and adhere to the essential issues, I don't think that God will hold them accountable for their errors on the teaching of Christ's return. So many Christians hold onto the pre-trib rapture view...but as long as they live a holy life before God is what matters the most! I would dare say that no one knows everything. Even the Apostle Paul said, For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as I am known." (1st Cor.12-13) BE blessed!🙏🤗💞
@@Richard-kf7py Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I agree with you to a point. The problem is when they say the church will not see the mark of the Beast and we won't be here, that is setting the saints up for failure. Jesus said wickedness will abound and the love of many will grow cold, but he who endures until the end will be saved. If that is our future, then man, these guys will have to give an account as to why they deny this. Yes, some things about the end times are debatable, but they better be right if they are setting up the church for the "great escape." If it doesn't happen, and the church is not prepared to endure until the end, then that will not bode will for these men and others. Remember, teachers will be judged with a stricter judgment. God bless.
@@Mike65809 Jesus says let the WHEAT and TARES grow together until the harvest. The tares are gathered first and burned. The tares took the Mark. The wheat refused the Mark. They are children OF THE KINGDOM! We aren't children of the Kingdom during the Age of Grace. We are children of God. Here are the verses... ^^^ Matthew 13:38-39 KJV The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one ; [39] The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. ^^^ Galatians 3:26 KJV For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
@@Mike65809 We aren't WHEAT. We aren't TARES. We are the Body of Christ Church. We don't grow together with the wheat and tares. I can explain this REAL SIMPLE like talking to a toddler if you want it broken down this simple... let me know. I can explain it to you like I talk to my grandbaby...
Everyone has been mostly respectful and I really appreciate that. Please remember that they will know us by our love. ❤ we are always learning and nobody has been glorified yet. We were just blessed to be together with three men who have given their lives in service to the body of Christ. I honor such men and most here seem to also! Thank you all!❤
How awesome was that! I listen to Pastor Bob Yandian and I have been to some of Tony Cooks meetings. And of course I daily listen to Rick Renner minister.
"Well informing," Rick, Bob and Tony @Renner Ministries and 😇"God Bless," & Maranatha.
Wow, what a great teaching. I love the level heads and balanced teaching. Keep your spirits up and focus on the kingdom of God
I appreciate your comment, I believe in giving honor to those that honor is due, it is safe for us and the culture is sure in need of it today, thank you for your respect for these men who have dedicated their lives to teaching God's Word to help the body grow ❤
Tony Cook was one of my awesome Bible school teachers at Rhema! Good to see you, Brother Tony
I do not agree that we should not think about the rapture every day. It is so encouraging and such a blessing when you have the rapture on your mind.
The apostle Paul made it very clear that we are not to be focused on the rapture. We are to be focused on our earthly ministry. What God has called us to do. Nothing else.
Yes jennifer
Love you Jennifer for your comment
Absolutly agree, Im hearing nothing but silence from the church on this subject, rapture deniers are louder, teaching a deception. Im stunned to hear this ministry’s view on this topic. This pre-tribulation rapture should be screamed all the louder, for we are the final fig tree generation. The gospel needs to be preached with an element of fear attached to it. Hell is real and so is the rapture, most of the church will be caught off guard. But ye brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief ( 1 Thess 5:4 ) thinking of this compels us to live Holy. Prophesy is our ark being built, and its complete. In Noahs day they watched the ark completed and the door closed and still believed not. WARNING of imminent rapture is at the top of my list, prepare!
@@davekoivisto9699 Amen!
What a treat! I love Pastor Yandian. Blessings.
I always love seeing Rick and Bob together! Loving this time with you all.
We should look for His coming, but not be apathetic waiting. Witness every day
Hi home group. It's been lovely to join you. God bless
They will know us by our love!❤
Such a Blessing!🙂
People.... including the church, have watched too many movies and think that's how the Rapture takes place INSTEAD of what God's Word says !!
They believe in the movies more than what God's Word says.
Blessed eastersunday! Yes I enjoyed this homegroup. Pastor Tony Cook once visited our menonite church here in Paraguay, it was a Blessing.
Awesome
Amen Pastors thanks encouraging 😂❤😊 Words keep our focus Great Commision And keeping our heads on straight in a world gone Crazy Shalom
I am so encouraged by your comment and many others, I also recognize that you read after Rick Renner. We were just blessed with three awesome men of God. As for me it got to me at a moment that I needed to be encouraged from a world gone crazy! Thank you my friend!❤
This is Great! Thank you, gentlemen!
Amen and Amen. Thank you men of God that was so powerful. May All be blessed and highly favored for the work you have been doing and are doing for the body of Christ.❤
I believe we should think, talk about the rapture daily bc this is where the world is at, the end of the end of time. Encouraging!! Living in the reality of the return of Christ!! Occupying saving souls, leading people to Christ!!! At the same time enjoying His grace, living in abundance and looking for our soon coming king
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I love that about Alpha and Omega !!
I believe ...WFVVS!❤❤❤😊
I really appreciate the lesson I get annoyed with preachers that don’t talk about it. You can just tell with the way the world is heading it’s soon. But I also have found so much focus on when isn’t going to help your walk with the lord. Keeping your eye on Jesus really makes the world much easier and god directs your focus.
Amen...Thanking Jesus for all of you! May Our Savior keep on using us all more and more for His glory!
2023 rapture 2026 mark of the beast 2030 Jesus comes back with us
Thanks, Rick. Did you ever think you'd be ministering to people all over the world --- at the same time? 😀
“FOR SUCH A TIME AS THIS”!!👍🏼👏🏼👏🏼☄️💫🌈☄️⚡️✨
The worst thing is suffering all this and being depressed for 4 years ... Not death... I'd rather be dead right now
We are praying for and take authority over the heaviness of the depression and oppression that is trying to rob you from the wonderful future Jesus has for you! Please reach out to us so we can pray for you more personally! We would love to hear from you! Call us at 1.800.742.5593 or email at social@renner.org. -Team Renner
Please Pastor Renner, can you at least give us a hint of when the RIV BIBLE will be out??!!
Revelation 11:15 KJV
And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
There should be an up to date book on what to do if you miss the rapture, a lot has changed since this was preached.
Amen Rick!
The dead in Christ shall rise first...when? At the last trump. When does thec7th angel sound? What happens immediately afterwards?
Psalm 91 gives us a look at how to be in the midst of turmoil and be protected.
And wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times, and strength of salvation: the fear of the Lord is his treasure(Isa 33:6) Amen! "only the Kingdom of God keeps getting better(Thanks to one and all)
My brothers, it appears that some of you will be alive to see the Church enter into the final 7 years.
So, are you going to tell all the saints, that believed your teaching, that there was going to be a pre-tribulation rapture, that you were silly to have believed and taught it.
They will be counting on you to just be totally honest.
God Bless
Hi brothers. Because of "88 reasons why", and its deception, my best Christian friend of 40 years , still will no longer talk about the end times.
That’s unfortunate. It’s our hope 💕
@@sandiegipson3716 Yes it is. Amen
G.Grennell You are wrong on the timing of the rapture. In Matt 24 Jesus told his disciples, the founders of the church, that he would return "after the tribulation", and told them to teach those things to the church they would be founding. That is good enough for me!!!!!
the spirit bodies of the physically dead saints enter into those dead saints when they are resurrected at the rapture - true? If true, where do those spirit bodies come from? Does not mention this in 1 Thessalonians. At the second coming, the spirit bodies of the saints return with Christ from heaven.
Little did you know you would be mowing & digging & burying Spiritual death! Amazing!!!
Question:
Will You Go To Heaven First Among The Dead?
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: AND THE DEAD IN CHRIST SHALL RISE FIRST:
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Tata, thank you for your question! We invite you to email your question to social@renner.org so our team can give it the care it deserves. We look forward to hearing from you!
-- Team Renner
Yes it’s starting to happen they are disrespecting us right now but it’s not as bad as other countries we aren’t being killed but I’ve been told I don’t want to hear it
Harold camping"... DESTROYED BIBLE PROHECY.
These guys are some of my favorite Bible teachers but the Rapture is NOT going to happen in our lifetime.
Nor in the next few hundred years, saints.
The Rapture is still 1 THOUSAND YEARS AWAY from now.
God gave man the Lease of Dominion (Genesis 1:28), to rule on Earth for 1 WEEK, that is, 7 DAYS.
We have lived 6 DAYS, in the Mind of the Father, from Adam until now.
We have 1 MORE DAY TO GO (i.e. 1 thousand more years), then that lease will expire (Revelation 11:15).
So the Rapture will NOT occur until somewhere at the beginning of the 3OTH CENTURY, family.
Time will prove this to be a fact.
Also, Brother Cook said that the last days began on the Day of Pentecost. But Paul insisted that the last days began with the First Coming of Jesus (Hebrews 1:1,2).
And John says that the last days will end with the Second Coming of Jesus. (Revelation 1:7).
In response to what Pastor Bob said about why Jesus cannot come back yet, He cannot come back until the Lease of Dominion, given by God to Adam, then forfeited into the hands of the devil, expires, which will be another 1 thousand years from now (Matthew 8:29; Acts 3:20,21).
Also, why would Pastor Bob say angels only rejoice over things that are eternal? Why would an angel of God NOT rejoice to see a believer healed of cancer or promoted on a job or publish a book for the Kingdom, etc., seeing these are all good things?
Where in Scripture did he see that, that angels ONLY rejoice over eternal things? That's quite a stretch.
Respectfully.
I like how you teach,, I do not believe in the rapture
The rapture is also referred to as the catching away of the church but it is going to happen, we must walk In love. Especially with fellow believers and then those who are in the valley of decision, I honor those who teach the fundamentals and I am always learning..I am aware that God spoke through a donkey with Balaam
I didn't intend for that to come across sarcastic, if you read it like that I apologize, it truly wasn't intended that way. I often times tell God I know that He can use me and remember that He used a donkey so I am qualified ❤
Amen!
Hate to Knit Pic , BUT ! You misspelled "RUP - TURE" ! ! ! !
Nitpicking is without the K
Yall are being funny, I hope.. remember
they will know us by our love
Ok, help me here.....you say, when I was in high school this stuff freaked me out. Then you say you're ok with it today! Of course you are, you're old and ready fir death. But let me tell you as a mom to teenagers and young 20 somethings, nothing's changed, they're still freaked out and don't want to acknowledge it. I think it us right for you olders to recognize and acknowledge this!
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If people would only study Gods word. This is what Paul said about the Resurrection (Rapture) 2Thes2:3 Let no man DECEIVE you THAT DAY CANNOT HAPPEN until the MAN OF SIN (Anti-christ) is REVEALED. So, where is he if the rapture can happen any second? Now let me ask you. The Lord will return as a THIEF. You either believe this is when he returns to the earth or in the clouds. IT DOESNT MATTER. Now read 2Pt3:10 The day of the Lord so cometh as a THIEF, in which the heavens pass away and the earth burned up!!! How simple is that???
Peter's "Day of the Lord" happens when ALL ELEMENTS are destroyed. Heaven and Earth pass away. Then the Great White Throne Judgement happens. Joel's Day of the Lord happens at midpoint when Satan is cast down and the AntiChrist desecrates the temple. Paul's Day of the Lord comes when THEY are saying, "Peace and Safety", then sudden destruction comes on THEM and THEY won't escape. Luke likens it as a snare on THEM. All elements aren't destroyed with Paul and Joel's Day of the Lord events.
2 Thessalonians 2:6-8 KJV And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. [7] For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. [8] And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
^^^
Apostasy in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 was always translated DEPARTURE until the KJV translated it "Falling Away". German and French Bibles STILL translate it as DEPARTURE today.
So when you say its going to happen "soon" you mean any day now...But when Jesus said "soon" five times in Revelation He meant 2,000 years....👌got it!
make disciples......is no where in the bible.....The King James Bible.
We must be born again.
You are born again when the Holy Spirit in you don’t let you sin anymore.
When you still sin you are not born again.
1 John 2, 1 John 3, Romans 6:6, Romans 8, Gal 5, Eph 4 , Eph 5 and Titus 2:14!
To become born again you have to repent and ask Jesus forgiveness for your sins or ask Jesus in your heart
😢jan!!! Roman's chapter 7...
WAS APOSTLE PAUL NOT SAVED!?
@@johnmorgan7947
Study Romans 8 too!!!!
I don’t know that.
I know IF he sinned he was not born again!
The seed of God cannot sin!!!!
@@johnmorgan7947
We only sin before we are born again!!
Matthew Chapter 13 kjv....tells us by the word of our Lord, there is NO such thing as rapture! As a matter of fact, Revelation 18:4 kjv....is the Last day, the End!
Philippians 3:20-21 KJV For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: [21] Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
^^^
What do YOU call it when Jesus CHANGES our vile bodies to be fashioned like Jesus's glorious risen body? I call it part 1 of the Rapture. Part 2 is the shout to gather us in the clouds to meet Jesus face to face in our glorious risen body fashioned like Jesus's glorious risen body.
@@Pre-Tribulation 1 Corinthians 15:15-58 Last Trump.....the end.
@@tmcge3325 if YOU want to actually believe Paul was addressing judgment trumpets at last seal, that is what I call "Word search theologeon". You mindlessly read judgment trumpets in Revelation and believe God would give his glory to an angel, that's actually laughable
@@tmcge3325 God personally changes the Body of Christ Church. No one is changed at the last judgment trumpet in Revelation. It was a close to the Tribulation and the beginning of the Millennium Age.
@@Pre-Tribulation Last Trumpet.....go to Revelation and find the Last Trumpet. You will NOT find an 8th Trumpet....go Read Joshua (Yeshua short for Yehoshua) Joshua Chapter 6 kjv. Yeshua took over from Moses and led the children into the promise land, Yeshua our King and High Priest will lead us into the promise land. Ecc 1:9 kjv. Hebrews 9:27-28, 10:30, 1 Corinthians 15:51-58 & please read verse 20-24 kjv (at his coming, then cometh the end).
Why do you NOT believe him? The verses you gave me, they have nothing to do with an early exit called rapture. Sad!
So interesting. But there is no passage in context that actually teaches a pretrib rapture. That should send up warning flags for us. Isn't it just wishful interpreting? False teachers.
@Mike65809 While I agree with you on the point that there is no pre-trib rapture, this is not a salvational issue; as long as these gentlemen teach and adhere to the essential issues, I don't think that God will hold them accountable for their errors on the teaching of Christ's return. So many Christians hold onto the pre-trib rapture view...but as long as they live a holy life before God is what matters the most! I would dare say that no one knows everything. Even the Apostle Paul said, For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as I am known." (1st Cor.12-13) BE blessed!🙏🤗💞
@@Richard-kf7py Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I agree with you to a point. The problem is when they say the church will not see the mark of the Beast and we won't be here, that is setting the saints up for failure. Jesus said wickedness will abound and the love of many will grow cold, but he who endures until the end will be saved. If that is our future, then man, these guys will have to give an account as to why they deny this. Yes, some things about the end times are debatable, but they better be right if they are setting up the church for the "great escape." If it doesn't happen, and the church is not prepared to endure until the end, then that will not bode will for these men and others. Remember, teachers will be judged with a stricter judgment. God bless.
@@Mike65809 Jesus says let the WHEAT and TARES grow together until the harvest. The tares are gathered first and burned. The tares took the Mark. The wheat refused the Mark. They are children OF THE KINGDOM! We aren't children of the Kingdom during the Age of Grace. We are children of God. Here are the verses...
^^^
Matthew 13:38-39 KJV The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one ; [39] The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
^^^
Galatians 3:26 KJV For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
@@Pre-Tribulation What exactly are you trying to say by this?
@@Mike65809 We aren't WHEAT. We aren't TARES. We are the Body of Christ Church. We don't grow together with the wheat and tares. I can explain this REAL SIMPLE like talking to a toddler if you want it broken down this simple... let me know. I can explain it to you like I talk to my grandbaby...