3:09 the look of empathy on Pyro’s face speaks volumes. It’s like he always knew Magneto was hard-hearted but he also knew how much love Magneto had for Raven Darkholme. There’s strong canonical evidence they were even lovers. The look of shock on Pyro’s face was well performed by the actor. It was the look of “Damn!”
To me, it was more a look of, "Ok, so if he loved her and just cast her aside, he'll do the same to any one of us!" It was a look of a certain amount of fear. At least that's the way I saw it.
@@Mandalorian_Goblinslayersome time travel stuff created another universe where it has the same history but stuff changed. Deadpool said it’s complicated with professor X actors
I honestly see magneto not abandoning mystique. I could see him holding her up as an example and a martyr, showing that he does not turn his back on mutants who were “cured” but I don’t see him Abandoning her
Yeah, he'd never just "give up" on a fellow mutant like that. Especially one that was part of his inner circle for years. They made him abandon her just for the sake of the plot.
When you think about fasbender and see this it really drives home how strong and effective he got with his ability over time. He looked like he was directing the orchestra.
Honestly these X-Men films had some of the best muscle suit I've ever seen next to that one commercial with Danica Patrick. We need to bring these back
@@dvantemckoy7174 honestly if you have zero imagine, then anything is boring. Basic story structure could involve unfinished business between Juggernaut and Professor X, he's Professor Xs stepbrother.
in a way it was tough love. he knew at that point there was nothing that she could do to help him, and if she tried she would probably only get herself killed and he didnt want that for her.
Got to love how the government can turn anything into a weapon on anyone. Magneto did say that "nobody ever talks about it. They just do it. Make no mistakes. They will draw first blood." He was right
Well, technically Magneto killed like a dozen cops before the used the “cure” weaponry to fight back. So you can’t really blame them for taking precautions.
This movie trilogy got Mystique completely wrong. One of the things the movie writers forgot is Charles, Eric and Raven are not some characters out to just use each other. Inside their mess are some genuine bonds. Eric wouldn't just tell Raven you are no longer one of us and leave her there. Also it's a pretty stupid reason considering she pretty much knows your entire plans.
One thing though is the relationship you're referring to hadn't even been established here yet. It was only until the Prequels when they kinda retconned Mystique into suddenly becoming Miss Poster-child Mutant
TBF none of the movies adapted any X-Men character even half right. The only actual adaptation we got was Wolverine who is, more or less, just a more boring version of comics Wolverine.
Yeah that’s a problem a lot of these movies make. There is some twisting that happens. As long as the movie and story are good and the true essence of the character remains it’s ok. I just think of it as another universe.
3:01 I've always enjoyed this moment because it accurately displays why Erik is the villain of this story. If he was simply a civil rights activist lobbying for equal treatment of Mutants, albeit with some rather aggressive tactics, he'd be too agreeable. But no, Magneto is an elitist. An egomanic with a chip on his shoulder, and a god complex the size of Africa. He's someone who can turn his back on a comrade simply because they lost what made them valuable in his eyes, inspite of them saving him just moments before.
I always wondered what happened to Mystique after this, considering the cure obviously wasn’t permanent. I wonder if she was captured eventually or she just died in days of future past. I know in the film they say that they use her DNA for the sentinels but they said they did that in the past.
If I was Magneto, I wouldn't abandon Mystique like that, considering she has valuable information and could just rat me out (which is exactly what happened in the movie). I would take her and keep somewhere safe, where she can't be spotted by the government and I would try to find antidote to the anti-mutant weapon. Considering, that this anti-mutant weapon doesn't destroy the x-gene, but rather temporarily shuts it, Mystique would eventually have her power come back to normal. Also I would wear full metal armor so I wouldn't get shot with a plastic needle.
So I just rewatched this scene for the millionth time, and I'm wondering if Erik "abandoned" her here because without her power she could be vulnerable and he ultimately didn't want her getting hurt? Saying "you're not one of us anymore" doesn't mean not part of his family. He just means the mutant brotherhood. Idk. Just a thought.
@@scottmatheson3346 You see what I wrote here is something called an analysis of the scene, which is where you can interpret things like speech or actions to have ulterior motives. I'm not ignoring facts - I'm exploring if they can mean anything else at the same time. :P
This is out of character for Magneto to abandon her after she had shielded him. I could see him working on not only restoring her mutant power given she had proven her loyalty to him but also in order to counter the government ability to just 'cure' mutants with a bullet or arrow.
I think this is genuinely one of the worst casting decisions ever made. A former footballer in a toy-like costume? Terrible. Deadpool 2 did it so much better.
@@cankafal6930 not stated, but when chasing after kitty and leech he charges into the wall but faceplants cos leech drains his power. Must be a mutant for that to happen I guess
Wow, if I had a nickel for every time the Juggernaut was rescued from an armoured convoy carrying mutant prisoners, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but its weird that it happened twice right?
Movie star is a little bit of an exaggeration. He got to be in movies because of his sports fame (which is definitely kinda cool in its own right). See also, Shaquille O’Neal.
Say what you want about Last Stand. But the good stuff is really good, and Magneto is a more complex villain here than he is in the first two movies. His fears about the Cure were completely validated and yet he didn't recognize he was being no better than the humans who tortured him.
AVI ARAD worked on the first movies as executive producer. But for the 3rd movie, he decided to step in as the main producer. That's why we got a movie done by a director with no passion, and a limited story overstuffed with characters, just so he could sell more toys. #IBlameAviArad
One of the best scenes in the Marvel movies. Ian is amazing...all the acting and special effects are amazing. The makeup on Kelsey = amazing too...I think this is the best they've done out of all the beasts versions.
I always thought that was just Pyro poking fun, especially since Juggernaut's helmet looks phallic. Good thing the big guy's chill enough to joke about how it keeps his face pretty.
X Men 3 is kinda underrated. Is it a good as the Logan or DOFP? No, but it’s definitely decent enough for what it is. It’s acted and performed well by the cast and the action scenes are fun entertaining.
Eric's uncharacteristic abandonment of Raven really soils the movie though. People that went into this movie when it came out with prior X-men knowledge were probably really bummed.
Muy interesante video muchas gracias por compartir. Realmente es una gran escena de una gran película, Magneto no debería haber abandonado a la bella Mystique cuando ella perdio sus poderes para salvarlo. 😮
I think Magneto left Mystique out of kindness. Regardless of how amazing her powers were, being a oddity of nature in the war that he is fighting, it's kinder to be cruel and let her join the other side. A life of peace, from bigoted people.
People complaining about Magneto abandoning "human" Raven: it shows how much he HATED the homo sapiens in the 2000s trilogy. He already tried to wipe out humanity in X2 using a handicaped Charles.
Magneto in film “you’re not one of us anymore”
Magneto 97: “SHE SHALL BE AVENGED!!!”
Different timelines
@@Lurkfish-nm4ycbetter writers
@@KyubiCloaks same writer wrote both of these movies 🙄
@@Lurkfish-nm4yc97 isn't a movie, it's a show, and it's far more accurate to the characters
@@High-LordHarza sorry I thought he was referring to 'Dark Phoenix'
3:09 the look of empathy on Pyro’s face speaks volumes. It’s like he always knew Magneto was hard-hearted but he also knew how much love Magneto had for Raven Darkholme. There’s strong canonical evidence they were even lovers. The look of shock on Pyro’s face was well performed by the actor. It was the look of “Damn!”
@@xshxr true but canonically he was closer to Mystique than any other mutant but once she wasn’t a mutant he abandoned her
You know what you've just described darling? Bolshevism. So Elon is right and Soros is Magneto after all.
To me, it was more a look of, "Ok, so if he loved her and just cast her aside, he'll do the same to any one of us!" It was a look of a certain amount of fear. At least that's the way I saw it.
same@@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403
So keen to see him back in deadpool 3
1:58 if only Magneto knew he freed Charles’ brother. Huge asset in beating Xavier.
Marko isnt Xaiver's step-brother in Earth-10005
Isn’t this Juggernaut not the same in Deadpool?
@@Mandalorian_Goblinslayersome time travel stuff created another universe where it has the same history but stuff changed. Deadpool said it’s complicated with professor X actors
Just say the X-Men films @@CsRj2854
Think about if he freed Charles’ sister
I honestly see magneto not abandoning mystique. I could see him holding her up as an example and a martyr, showing that he does not turn his back on mutants who were “cured” but I don’t see him Abandoning her
Completely agree. Not the best writing.
No Eric would never have done that.
Comments from the most sheltered of people.
Then he becomes Xavier
Only the J Law version. We can all gladly abandon her
I like how when Mystique turned human she had perfect makeup
Like real life, women always prepping for hours for every possibility
2:50 me too
somehow she's even hotter in her normal human form
@@hansolo631that's... expected?
@@CellStudios55 heeheehee
0:10 I was half expecting him to say "You shall not passs!"
I don't know... I think Magneto would have never do this to Mystique. it was out of character move for the plot.
Yeah, he'd never just "give up" on a fellow mutant like that. Especially one that was part of his inner circle for years.
They made him abandon her just for the sake of the plot.
#IBlameAviArad
@@CrashB111 i actually yelled out bullshit when i saw th at scene in the theater for the first time.
In case you haven't noticed Mystique is as cold blooded as Magneto.
@@CrashB111j
"This one ate a bowl of nails for breakfast"
So?
"Without any milk....."
Welcome to the brotherhood
Gold Comment 😂
When you think about fasbender and see this it really drives home how strong and effective he got with his ability over time. He looked like he was directing the orchestra.
The fasbender movies came out after this one. This makes no sense. There was no continuity planned like that.
@@CirrowProductions Even so, without a plan they still had Ian's Magneto looking more skilled as the older one.
Love how he says "was" so beautiful
Honestly these X-Men films had some of the best muscle suit I've ever seen next to that one commercial with Danica Patrick. We need to bring these back
I loved the guy they used for juggernaut. Gotta love his most classic line " do you know who I am? I'm the juggernaut bitch!"
Watch "Mean Machine", a British remake of The Longest Yard, it's funny as hell and he plays the lead. Jason Statham is hilarious in it.
Vinnie Jones
Football player, Jones
Bullet tooth tony!
They couldn't choose a smaller actor apparently
Pretty cold to abandon her like that. I'd be using her to inspire the fight. "Look what they did to her!! This could be you!"
La usaria para quitarme momentos de estres💦🥵
@@el_amo_del_calabozo_nivel_45gess you two
@@el_amo_del_calabozo_nivel_45????
@@el_amo_del_calabozo_nivel_45bro's down bad💀💀
i know a lot of people don't like this movie but goddamn magneto is just so cool man, especially with this outfit
2:13
Imagine if Juggernaut kept falling through the floor and then underground because of his unstoppable power lol.
Lol 😂
Only works if he builds up enough momentum.
2:52 every time someone says "You saved me" I want to answer "mmm, monke"
1:40 Mystic being checked out 😎
Unavoidable
I don’t blame him lol
Juggernaut should’ve had his own movie like Bane and Venom… the man was absolutely stacked
That movie would boring honestly 😂😂
@@dvantemckoy7174 honestly if you have zero imagine, then anything is boring. Basic story structure could involve unfinished business between Juggernaut and Professor X, he's Professor Xs stepbrother.
@@yeahyeahwowman8099 your imagination must be incredible then, to want to sit and watch Vinnie Jones terrible acting 😆
@@epec20 Jones wouldn't be the actor, I don't know why you think he would.
X-Men Origins: Juggernaut?
The biggest "cold as ice" moment in cinema history.
Well probably not the biggest but I feel where your coming from!!😆💯
in a way it was tough love. he knew at that point there was nothing that she could do to help him, and if she tried she would probably only get herself killed and he didnt want that for her.
Right? He should have at least let Juggernaut get some. Doubt he had any conjugals when he was locked up.
Colder than Iceman? 😂
Magneto was traumatized by watching her revert, knowing how close it was to being him.
In that moment, he forgot why he truly loved her.
wow thats deep man.. nice analyzing, but yeah i think your right
Got to love how the government can turn anything into a weapon on anyone.
Magneto did say that "nobody ever talks about it. They just do it. Make no mistakes. They will draw first blood." He was right
Well, technically Magneto killed like a dozen cops before the used the “cure” weaponry to fight back. So you can’t really blame them for taking precautions.
Magneto: You're not one of us anymore
Reddington: Value loyalty above all else
Yo is that black list reddington?
@@dr.downvote Yup
Personally, I appreciated very much these versions of Pyro and Multiple Man, even if they had not so much time on screen
This movie trilogy got Mystique completely wrong. One of the things the movie writers forgot is Charles, Eric and Raven are not some characters out to just use each other. Inside their mess are some genuine bonds. Eric wouldn't just tell Raven you are no longer one of us and leave her there. Also it's a pretty stupid reason considering she pretty much knows your entire plans.
One thing though is the relationship you're referring to hadn't even been established here yet. It was only until the Prequels when they kinda retconned Mystique into suddenly becoming Miss Poster-child Mutant
yeah exactly, this felt really uncharacteristic and I have no idea why
He was lost to his cause and became to radical, that’s why the X-men were after him. His cause was just, but his means we’re not the right way
Her mystique not raven, y’all sounds the same British
TBF none of the movies adapted any X-Men character even half right. The only actual adaptation we got was Wolverine who is, more or less, just a more boring version of comics Wolverine.
Those hand gestures of Magneto, are epic !
First guy: "im in"
*immediately leaves
1:08. She got captured on purpose. I was wondering how they got her but it was a trap. Which explains why he didn't immediately rescue her.
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1 mistake. juggernaut is not mutant. his powers are magical
Yeah that’s a problem a lot of these movies make. There is some twisting that happens. As long as the movie and story are good and the true essence of the character remains it’s ok. I just think of it as another universe.
Yeah it is, he said it himself, the exact same thing you said by himself on xmen 1992
Thankyou. Also, Azazel isn't either.
@@christimatlock3381 in some Adaptation he is à mutant
I’ve tried this trick in Houston rush hour many times.
Still waiting for my magneto powers to finally kick in.
I love how Magneto manipulate the metals. Imagine if could also create metals.
in the comic he can create electromagnetic fields, that´s why he can fly.
@@sescruceria Of course he does. The way he clears his mind off, so that he can lift himself up to fly around.
@@moachangkiri5952 but it was never xplanied in the movies, I think he put metal in his shoes to do it.
IF he could really control metal he could bend metal to his will. A quarter could become a brick and and a car could could become a house.
Yeah, but the gun was plastic. This scene doesn't match the ending scene.
3:01 I've always enjoyed this moment because it accurately displays why Erik is the villain of this story. If he was simply a civil rights activist lobbying for equal treatment of Mutants, albeit with some rather aggressive tactics, he'd be too agreeable. But no, Magneto is an elitist. An egomanic with a chip on his shoulder, and a god complex the size of Africa. He's someone who can turn his back on a comrade simply because they lost what made them valuable in his eyes, inspite of them saving him just moments before.
Fun fact you didn’t ask for: The word Juggernaut comes from the Indian word Jagannath which means ‘lord of the world’.
A fact we didn't asked for but a fact we needed
thats bullshit
No its not
Cytorrak strikes me as an Indian deity somehow
I always wondered what happened to Mystique after this, considering the cure obviously wasn’t permanent. I wonder if she was captured eventually or she just died in days of future past. I know in the film they say that they use her DNA for the sentinels but they said they did that in the past.
Different timelines changed
@@cade.s the original timeline from DOFP was a sequel to this movie, though.
@@conmattang8492 I know but they changed the original timeline and It continued in Logan..
She turned against Magneto and began working with the government to stop him.
@@conmattang8492the professor died here, so DOFP is already an alternate timeline
If I was Magneto, I wouldn't abandon Mystique like that, considering she has valuable information and could just rat me out (which is exactly what happened in the movie). I would take her and keep somewhere safe, where she can't be spotted by the government and I would try to find antidote to the anti-mutant weapon. Considering, that this anti-mutant weapon doesn't destroy the x-gene, but rather temporarily shuts it, Mystique would eventually have her power come back to normal. Also I would wear full metal armor so I wouldn't get shot with a plastic needle.
I dont think she could have the exact same powers back.. maybe
So I just rewatched this scene for the millionth time, and I'm wondering if Erik "abandoned" her here because without her power she could be vulnerable and he ultimately didn't want her getting hurt? Saying "you're not one of us anymore" doesn't mean not part of his family. He just means the mutant brotherhood. Idk. Just a thought.
he tells us explicitly why he abandons here. No point in ignoring the facts because you don't like them.
@@scottmatheson3346 You see what I wrote here is something called an analysis of the scene, which is where you can interpret things like speech or actions to have ulterior motives. I'm not ignoring facts - I'm exploring if they can mean anything else at the same time. :P
Me watching this after having finished Grey’s anatomy: @1:26 SLOAN!!
This is out of character for Magneto to abandon her after she had shielded him. I could see him working on not only restoring her mutant power given she had proven her loyalty to him but also in order to counter the government ability to just 'cure' mutants with a bullet or arrow.
Whether you love or hate the movie, Vinnie Jones is the perfect Juggernaut.
He got the character
Outfit needed some work...
Not really. Juggernaut is that, a huge beast. They did him dirty and smaller 😂
I think this is genuinely one of the worst casting decisions ever made.
A former footballer in a toy-like costume? Terrible. Deadpool 2 did it so much better.
They did juggernaut so wrong in this movie
For some reason he's a mutant in this version lol
Maybe he wasnt a mutant? When was it stated he is a mutant
@@cankafal6930 not stated, but when chasing after kitty and leech he charges into the wall but faceplants cos leech drains his power. Must be a mutant for that to happen I guess
They did him better in deadpool 2
They did him even worse in Deadpool 3
Even without the power of Phoenix Force Jean Grey is still something else beyond or off charts.
How do they even catch the Juggernaut?
Maybe trank gas
Stopped to pee
Probably drugged him while he was asleep. Seems like the only way to do it.
Sink him in the ocean.
@@johnr.timmers2297 can pee running.
Wow, if I had a nickel for every time the Juggernaut was rescued from an armoured convoy carrying mutant prisoners, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but its weird that it happened twice right?
Hands down the best mystique ever.
But Jennifer Lawrence was the very first Mystique to ever do it 😂
@into_play3266 She wasn't the first
Out of.....two? Wow.
3:07 that’s kinda sad to leave her, isn’t it?
Very much
0:08 -0:34 you shall not pass. Magneto version
I can’t believe those words came out of juggernauts mouth 2:03
He probably did
Still struggling to comprehend how Vinnie Jones went from being a premier league footballer to movie star
Movie star is a little bit of an exaggeration. He got to be in movies because of his sports fame (which is definitely kinda cool in its own right). See also, Shaquille O’Neal.
If I ever received a death sentence and was able to choose how I go.... I'd choose death by Mystiques feet without hesitation 👍
She broke his neck lol u think thats a quick & painless death?
Say what you want about Last Stand. But the good stuff is really good, and Magneto is a more complex villain here than he is in the first two movies. His fears about the Cure were completely validated and yet he didn't recognize he was being no better than the humans who tortured him.
AVI ARAD worked on the first movies as executive producer.
But for the 3rd movie, he decided to step in as the main producer.
That's why we got a movie done by a director with no passion, and a limited story overstuffed with characters, just so he could sell more toys.
#IBlameAviArad
this juggernaut vs Deadpool juggernaut 🤣🤣🤣🤣....its like Loki gettin smashed by Hulk all over again🤣
2:03 Honestly I think it would be better if Juggy said: You gonna let me outa ere? I need to piss."
In the truck scene, it would have been common sense to put Mystique behind glass, not bars!
What a MASSIVE JUGGERNAUGHT!
He's not massive.
To that decades , i think visual graphics were so futuristics 😁🙌🏾
Magneto hated humans so much he threw away decades of friendship with mystique because she became human
I bet the first two cars were a mess for the emergency services to clean up
I've seen this so many times, and just caught the detail that the weapon that shot mystiq was a plastic one as magnyto pulled it towards him
Only thing I could give as an explanation is maybe the metal in the laser sight.
At this point it was still metal. Later on they develop plastic weapons.
1:03 1:05 1:07 1:23 1:31 1:42 2:36 2:42 2:49 2:54 2:59 3:04 3:12 3:17
One of the best scenes in the Marvel movies. Ian is amazing...all the acting and special effects are amazing. The makeup on Kelsey = amazing too...I think this is the best they've done out of all the beasts versions.
0:30 DO A FLIP
Mystique: saves magneto
Magneto: You're off the team
Mystique: wtf
I was absolutely silenced for a good 10 seconds after Magneto did this.
2:17 Yet he thought Magneto’s was dorky
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I always thought that was just Pyro poking fun, especially since Juggernaut's helmet looks phallic. Good thing the big guy's chill enough to joke about how it keeps his face pretty.
Why would they (the government) leave Juggernauts helmet on once he was secured? That seems pretty stupid.
I would be unstoppable with magnetos powers 😂😂they so OP
Kelsey Grammar make a Perfect Beast!
They joined up with Magneto without even asking who he is or what he wants. Lol.
Oh, you think the events of the first film pass unknown? Magneto is pretty much famous at this moment
Unless they watched him from the news in prison? 🤷
Magneto is world famous at this point. Everyone knows the name and what he can do.
X Men 3 is kinda underrated. Is it a good as the Logan or DOFP? No, but it’s definitely decent enough for what it is. It’s acted and performed well by the cast and the action scenes are fun entertaining.
Hate how people criticize it
#IBlameAviArad
I agree, not the best, but entertaining
@@aaronstestlab Same said for a lot of underated movies
Eric's uncharacteristic abandonment of Raven really soils the movie though. People that went into this movie when it came out with prior X-men knowledge were probably really bummed.
Muy interesante video muchas gracias por compartir. Realmente es una gran escena de una gran película, Magneto no debería haber abandonado a la bella Mystique cuando ella perdio sus poderes para salvarlo. 😮
3:01 Pyro was staring straight at her crotch the whole time lmao
lol he always was a sleazeball
2:50
i will defend the bad x-men movies (this, origins, apocalypse) until i die
0:44 not the weirdest chiropractic adjustment vídeo out there
A gangster moment on Magneto’s part
How did magneto grab the gun if it wasn’t made out of metal?
Probably was metal, or at least some metal in it
They later used complete plastic ones
This version WAS still metal. The next itteration at the lab was plastic, hence "they've learned"
It has a laser light. That means it has wires and a battery.
At this point it was still metal. Later on its translucent
Gandalf just f*cked up those vehicles!! 😅
Que atriz linda 😮🥰😘
Frankly , Magneto did basically the same to Toad , and he was still a Mutant .
"He is a mad dog"Adagio😂😂😂
bruh that guard was reduced to ashes in less than half a sec he didn't even scream with that fire
I think Magneto left Mystique out of kindness. Regardless of how amazing her powers were, being a oddity of nature in the war that he is fighting, it's kinder to be cruel and let her join the other side. A life of peace, from bigoted people.
1:15 😂😂
Magneto just straight murdered everyone in those cars
2:55 She looks like my bestie
Ohhh shiiii heyyy McSteamy🤪
If you know you know 🤣👀
*Sees mystique in her human form*
Magneto: Pulls out meat scepter-
I actually don't hate this version of juggernaut
They should have kept the ambiguous voice for jlaws mystique
Magneto: Oh no, she's HOT! *runs*
People complaining about Magneto abandoning "human" Raven: it shows how much he HATED the homo sapiens in the 2000s trilogy. He already tried to wipe out humanity in X2 using a handicaped Charles.
EPIC !!!!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
what a scene to start a movie
Dr McSteamy! He's 1st on every list ❤️💋😍
Making juggernaut a mutant was so stupid he's not a god damn mutant in the comics
This depiction of juggernaut was completely way off. Dead pool juggernaut nailed it based of the comics.
Magneto abandoning Mystique here seems really out of place tbh
seeing mc steamy on here always gives me a chuckle
Deadpool-I thought juggernaut getting taller? :3
1:35 is this the guy from Euphoria?
That show is lame
It’s mark sloan
Thats the joke @@Jerry-yr1en
@@bwiebertramhow is that the joke? Lol