The 👑 Is Back Where it Belongs - Noctua NH-D15 G2 Review
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- Опубліковано 4 сер 2024
- After 10 years of waiting, it is finally here. The Noctua NH-D15 G2 is supposed to be the (new) best Air cooler featuring 8x Heat Pipes, a giant Dual Tower Heatsink, and one of the biggest bases ever seen. But one of the most important updates are the fans! Let's see if the new Noctua NF-A14x25r can get Noctua back to the top of benchmark charts!
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00:00 Intro Noctua NH-D15 G2
00:20 Versions & What's In The Box?
02:25 Size & Ram Compatibility
03:45 Heatsink, Heat Pipes & Base
06:19 Noctua NF-A14x25r G2 PWM Sx2-PP
09:05 Noise Samples NH-D15 G2 vs NH-D15
09:45 How To Install
12:10 Intel Benchmark - 120W
13:50 Intel Benchmark - 250W
15:33 Intel Benchmark - 320W
17:20 AMD Benchmark Explanation
18:58 7950X3D Benchmark
21:17 Thoughts On The NH-D15 G2 Performance
22:12 Fins Vibration Issue
24:40 Intel LGA1700 Washers
25:00 Fan PWM Cable
25:58 Naming Scheme
27:50 Ending Thoughts & Price
30:10 Bye
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The crown really goes to Thermalright for keeping such low prices on such damn good coolers.
Yeah. Agree, and they have been doing that since early 2000
So the Thermalright Peerless Assassin and the Phantom Spirit are the Bang for the Buck Coolers at 1/4 to 1/3 of the Price?
exactly
Looking at GN's tests, it's not just bang for the buck, it's neck and neck with gen2 and even beats it in one aspect (dB@max speed) _with 120mm fans!_ That's a 30 month old cooler competing with a decade of gen2 R&D on performance.
Noctua didn't have to blow them out of the water, but a clear performance increase had to show to defend that price. Let's say a couple ℃. It didn't even come close, and that's with the best optimal curvature results.
@@QualeQualeson I'm curious why GN hasn't bothered with the Phantom Spirit. They tested PA 120 mini that came out later but still haven't gotten to PS120.
Do they think the upcoming Thermalright coolers will blow everything away so they didn't bother with PS120?
@@ailluinthethyra6139 There are limits to their workload I guess, and Thermalright tends to flood the market with models. I think people get confused and stick with PA, which to be fair still beats the newer ones in some tests. It becomes a question of bothering with the steady releases of new models unless one causes a real stir I guess, and I'm not sure PS for example has really done that.
I'd laugh in the new TR new flagship 'Royal Preytor' (terrible name btw) matches or outperform this at a fraction of the cost. Which has been in development for so many years.
They showed new high end coolers at Computex and said its improved over current PS. With soldered heatpipes, bigger mass and 135+120mm fans. I'd be inclned to believe them. Thermalright must have some damn good heatpipes in their coolers because all of them perform so well regardless of configuration.
Not worth it. For the "normal" cpus you can get AK620 or Peerless Assassin for third of that price and be 1-2c above. For OC and extreme OC on 14900k or 7950 cpus you probably wont be looking at air cooler anyway. So in my opinion buying this Noctua is not justified in any way, except loyalty to the brand, being a fan, stuff like that.
Yeah not to mention it costs more than many 360 AIOs that are better than any air cooler.
Dark rock elite performs the same for $100 if you can't stand water cooling. Frost Spirit 140 for $40 would also likely perform the same
well, you can't get the AK620 anymore 🙄
If you have a contact frame, why would you want any base convexity on your CPU? .... That's like saying I want my CPU flat, so I bought a contact frame. Then bought a D15 G2 to bend the CPU.
Noctua should add a flat baseplate (zero base convexity) option, for those with contact frames.
I will just wait for new Thermalright cooler, for 1/3 of the price with identical performance 😶
Me too
There were many 140mm from Thermalright on display at Computex, so they are coming soon.
Super informative video! Thank you!
I can't see this ever being a justifiable purchase, it's just way too expensive
They ask for one Fan 40€ in EU alone. The Twin Pack is 75€.
Redditors will protect and worship Noctua with their lives which is probably why Noctua is confident in charging 120$ for a single tower cooler and 150$ for this.
@@100500daniel Naw even on Reddit the G2 is being called overpriced and not worth it
i love noctua but yeah this is over priced
Until/unless Thermalright finally suddenly implodes from their bargain pricing, this is the correct take. Noctua is too expensive given the competition.
I wonder if I can even fit this in my LIAN LI O11 Dynamic EVO XL O11DEXL case. Already, my current Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4 with fans is almost against the glass wall. And this new one is even taller. And If I have to shift the fans upward on the fan (toward the glass), I have even less space. I've always had issues with the Noctua fan over the RAM as I usually use all the RAM slots (128GB in my current build).
The Noctua tax is real
Amen and it's biting harder than ever. It's a great cooler, but grossly overpriced. Me thinks Noctua knowing with rivals like Thermalright kicking about; they are going to need to become a boutique brand a bit like Leica, because it's just not feasible to compete on price given the costs of merely running a HQ and R&D centre in a EU cost of operating hellhole like Austria.
@@anasevi9456 It'll be funny if Thermalright actually hits their target performance for their upcoming heatsink. They'll beat this G2 for a third of the price & Noctua fanboys can't even claim best in class performance for this.
This isn't the Noctua tax this is the Noctua robbery
Always was
@@anasevi9456 Also nobody stopping other company from copying noctuas optimized new fan.
Many a12x25 copies out there for just couple bucks and it'll be the same with the 140 one.
With Noctua you pay for the material/longevity and one of the best customer support.
The Noctua website says the G2 is compatible with ram up to 32mm in height in dual fan mode. Where are you getting the 25mm figure?
Hey, thank you for an excellent review. Do you plan on testing the EVO version of Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120? Based on other tests it looks like it could take the best air cooler crown back from Noctua.
Oh man, so much development and money for minimal performance improvement including quality problems on the heatsink, I really hope that the new Thermalright coolers top the G2, Noctua is just becoming more and more unpleasant
Yes it is pricey. But the fact that other manufactures with their own factories are steali... erm borrowing Noctua's ideas and research to rapidly produce their "own" coolers is kinda crazy. It really shows how trailblazing is useless in this day and age, so much that one cannot factor in that cost anymore when the consumer market is heavilly manipulated by more artful dodgery, I agree that other coolers are "worth it"... But as a designer myself, I do respect the origin more than the others that capitalize on these opportunities.
No one speaks to Noctua's customer support or general respect of the sector they are in.
Great video! I want them to release this new cooler with black fans and the aluminium heatsink not the all black chromax version
if you compare it with the arctic 240, which is quieter and more efficient?
I'm excited for the black version.
@sts Why do you think peerless assassin performs better on amd then intel in comparison to phantom spirit. Its small difference, but it blocks my sleep. Pls help
How is the performance with only 1 fan?
They did a great job, but the price was too high. Additionally, the height has been changed to 168mm, which troubles me.
I am thinking to buy Ryzen 7900 with MSI B650M gaming wifi plus mobo, any suggestion on cooler ? my usage is multiple Virtual machines (Ryzen 7600 is good for my usage)
Perhaps they'll fix the fan clip vibration in the Chromax version? 🤞
Not really a fan of the fan clips. Scratches the paint job and kind of a pain to put on. I would've liked that the fans clips were thicker.
Funny that Noctua NH-D14 had longer ruber bar for the fans.
Dude be glazing
great review :)
I wonder that is the benchmark 7950X3D using -7mm offset and LBC? with thermal paste in box?
I am using 7950X3D cpu with cool leo p60t body and nf-a12 fan cause the thermalright pa120 is too noisy
and will this d15 g2 fit with my antec p10 flux case? it seems realy large
163,5 mm in height? On their data sheet they say its 168x150x152 mm (168 mm in height)
My case supports up to 166 mm cpu clearance, so is the data sheet wrong?
It depends on the ram.
That 168mm is based on 32mm high ram. You could get that number down by lowering the fan further, of course only with LP Ram.
163.5 is the absolute minimum ignoring the ram height.
@@STSYT Well that is reassuring news, I was panicking for a minute as well.
o11 air mini: 170mm
G2: 168mm
G.SKILL Flare X5: 33mm (+1)
=169mm hopefully this build will work as it will be "tight tight tight YEA!"
Thank you for including AMD measurements in a very well done review! Thumbs up.
The new cooler sounds a lot more high pitched than the old one, which I personally find a lot more pleasant.
According to your measurements the Phantom Spirit 120 is still better on Intel (250W) at medium to low noise levels (what most people run). That's absolutely crazy considering the 4x lower price.
when U talk about 3:47,I thought it was NH-C15 coming soon..😅
would cool been see difference between standard version vs lbc and hbc
Will you be doing a fan review on the A14 G2 fans?
Can you review the superflower mega cool 120
I have NH-U12A chromax for my 7950X and I love how quiet and efficient is, but what I am really impressed is not the new NH-D15 G2, but the Thermalright 120 Spirit....Wow!! that is amazing how $50 cooler can cool almost as well as $200 G2.
I am afraid to even say that Thermalright Spirit is better than NH-U12A
Noctua recommends using standard version for normal user. And specialized versions for enthusiast or power users.
I question how many non-enthusiasts are building/speccing their own custom desktop computer. If you care about Noctua, you're already an enthusiast/pro.
@@crash.override Good point, Noctua simple giving costumers a choice. I honestly think the best choice all round is standard version, for AM5 u can mount it with offset. For Intel LGA1700... well, those CPU's are so thermally hot right now, I never buy them anyway.
Thermalright PA SE is the beast!!!
I personally would buy the Dark Rock Elite instead. It performes just as well as the G2 but definetly looks a lot better and costs 33%/50€ less
im on the Dark rock pro 4 and for AM5 it is quite bad. Intel im sure it works fine but the main reason im getting this g2 is because of the offset / AM5 support
@andyyy5855 No it doesn’t. Look at the results for AM5. The Dark Rock performs poorly
_Absolutely_ doesn't beat any of the Phantom Spirit coolers when it comes to price to performance! Also, I wish you included FROZN A720 in your charts as well, that one could've ruffled up situation a little bit more.
I was thinking of buying NH-D15 for my future ryzen 7 9800x3d but when I saw the comments I realized that there is a one called Thermalright 120 SE that performs almost the same and only costs 38 usd
STS : the problem is :
Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 = 39,90 EUROS = 1-2 degrees °C worse temps
Noctua NH-D15 G2 = 149,90 EUROS = 1-2 degrees °C better temps
Noctura has price hiked their products twice in the past 2 years since the lockdown....the Noctua NH-D15 v1 used to cost 93 EUROS and it costs now 146 EUROS. Noctua isn't worth it because it doesn't even offer any higher build quality than Thermalright, not in the cooler material used nor does it offer better fan life span or performance (maybe around 5 % overall better build quality, but that's it).
this. there is no place for such high price for the aircoolers, when Thermalright is demolishing it at sub $50 price tag
And we haven't even compared the next gen Thermalright coolers yet, which will probably match this cooler and still cost about 40 bucks
have you heard of inflation?
@@michakrzyzanowski8554 bro thought he was smart with that
inflation doesn't increase prices this much lmao
@@michakrzyzanowski8554 have you heard of the proportional growth of the prices for a long term sustainable economy ?!?!?!?!
In 2022 the NH-D15 costed 90 EUROS. Today in 2024 it costs 146 EUROS.
Has your monthly salary gone up by 65 % from 2022-2024 ?!?!?!?!
With my G2 fins vibration issue doesn't exist across whole speed range and I mean with sticking your ear to the cooler. I obviously have fans mounted higher and correctly, but that's the thing. It's great that you care about details, especially acoustic anomalies which most reviewers don't mention, but when doing so, you should pay more attention to make sure everything on your side is as it should be. Your example shows fans mounted incorrectly or at least not in default position - right tower should be the thinner one. Also right fan looks positioned lower than cooler height when such scenario doesn't make sense, not counting probably there're no RAM modules which can fit like that. I don't want to defend Noctua and personally find potential problem unnacceptable in such premium cooler - quality and pleasant acoustics, something more than low dBA, are from main reasons you buy premium cooling gear. These are just my two cents and my take would be there's a problem if it happens with fans mounted in any position equal or above cooler's height.
Corsair Dominator Titanium RAM is 57.3mm high ^^
Yeah, no, the Phantom Spirit 120 is still king at very low noises/silent, which is where I adjust all my computer fans.
I'll be looking forward to the upcoming Thermalright releases, they'll probably skin the G2 alive.
Waiting for the chromax black😂
Same!
250 euro price point.
Your ram clearance calculation is wrong.
So the phantom spirit is still the king 😅
Rotate the fan 180' the cable will come out at the top on the side where the fan headers are. Not rocket science is it?
Yeah while it’s expensive as heck for an Air Based Cooler it’s worth it for those who can afford it for the Noctua Quality alone and the long term support for it. Otherwise I’d suggest something like the Arctic Freezer or even the many options Thermalright has.
आपकी समीक्षा देखने के बाद (आपकी समीक्षा में कुछ भी गलत नहीं है, बहुत अच्छी समीक्षा है , सुन्दर छायांकन और प्रज्ञावान विश्लेषण 👌👌👏👏), मैंने "be quiet! Dark Rock Elite" संगणक शीतक क्रय करने का निर्णय लिया है ; Nactua मेरे उपयोग के लिए बहुत अधिक बड़ा है , महंगा है , दिखने मैं भी कुछ खास नहीं है और कार्यकुशलता में "be quiet! Dark Rock Elite" से केवल १%-२% ही आगे है ।
Noctua never fails to disappoint.
Are you lacking in the head? 💀
?
Huge pricy disappointment.
Just get Arctic LF II/III - better thermals, vrm cooling, a space for ram cooling, one of the best noise/performance ratio and even some headroom for fans upgrade for even more performance.
Or if you are really a fan of air solutions for some reason - Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120
I need a chromax version to be interested.
This is really just a ND-D15 that is better adapted for larger desktop CPU packages that started with LGA1700 and SP2/SP6 derivatives, . The fans are what make Noctua special, but for $149 USD MSRP? It is very hard sell, unless you really need low-noise.
great job, thanks 👍
Whats that shit flag lol
It's rubbish at $150. Basically an IQ test XD
Anyone spending money on a computer not used for work is already developmentally subnormal.
These D15 G2 reviews are great. Not only do I get a detailed review with charts and graphs on the titular product, I also get 100+ Amazon-tier user reviews on the myriad coolers that Thermalright have released in the last decade. 👌
It puzzles me what Noctua have done. ... LGA 1700 CPUs are bending in the sockets. Adding a cooler with a baseplate that is more convex than the CPU is concave, will bend the CPU more.
The NH-D15 G2 is a great cooler. But it is not a great priced cooler for it's performance among the competition. No, the 👑 is not back where it belongs. The 👑 goes to Thermalright for their $30 coolers that compete in a very tight performance margin. I'll be recommending for just about EVERY builder budget that doesn't require an AIO to go the Thermalright route and maybe use the extra cash saved for an upgrade in their build. Noctua needs to lower their price if they want to stay relevant or Thermalright will continue to beat them.
There's no justification for an air cooler to cost this much, especially not when you can get performance within the margin of error for like a 1/3 the price... I don't know what they were thinking.
Yes it is pricey. But the fact that other manufactures with their own factories are steali... erm borrowing Noctua's ideas and research to rapidly produce their "own" coolers is kinda crazy. It really shows how trailblazing is useless in this day and age, so much that one cannot factor in that cost anymore when the consumer market is heavilly manipulated by more artful dodgery, I agree that other coolers are "worth it"... But as a designer myself, I do respect the origin more than the others that capitalize on these opportunities.
No one speaks to Noctua's customer support or general respect of the sector they are in.
so why not buy 2 thermalright AIOs for this price ?lol
Intel and AMD have very different chip surface design rightnow so you can not use 1 cooler for best performance all of them. Can you tell they do not do that and you can have 1 cooler for all cpu like in the past.
It's expensive, but I trust it over any other brand because it's a Noctua. There are better options out there for cheaper that do just as good, but I'll still pick this air cooler over any other brand if I was building a mid-tier to high-end PC.
You know you could buy 2-3-4 coolers from those other brands at that price, right? There's nothing to go wrong on an air cooler anyway. The fans can be replaced on any cooler at any time for very little money..
@@michalsvihla1403 You can, but I personally don't find $150 expensive for a lifetime support for an air cooler. It all does come down to personal preference.
For the price hard pass thanks to Peerless Assassin/Spirit existing.
I thought that I heard in a Gamers Nexus video at Comdex that Noctua had decided against liquid crystal polymer blades, saying that the thermal expansion in real life made it a dead end technology for now. Does anybody know better?
The frame gamer Nexus were talking about the frame
well if you rename LBC to AMD and the HBC to Intel couldn't be that future save. What if future intel cpus are more flat? or future amd are suddenly more convex?
is it just me?
or does it sound like "Nokia" when he says Noctua
It sounds more like Hawk-tuah, hahah.
Waiting for the new Thermalright coolers to beat this thing for 45$ 😂
It can't really defeat the cheaper Dark Rock Elite so the new G2 is pretty much useless at its current price. And the dirt cheap Phantom Spirit is way too close too.
Did you watch the same video ? He clearly showed the Noctua has best noise to performance on AMD. The Dark Rock Elite falls behind especially on AM5. Hardware Canuks found the same. So how is it not defeating the Dark Rock ?
@@flaccus123 Is your employer a noctua? Do they force you to write such comments or do you do it on your own after hours?
noctua created G2 for Intel and AMD standart is for all but special LBC and HBC ist for new 1700 and AM5 if you say this to normal person kinda in tech he will not know dont not mention the happy standart gamer with first build man this will be shit show oh and dont mentioned next intel will not have 1700 socket great noctua you did it :DDDDDDD why they just dont name that convection made for intel or AMD or standart for all
With what ThermalRight showed off at Computex 2024 (the top model being called the Royal Praetor 130), taking off 4-6°C lower than the Phantom Spirit 120 SE, WHILE having a price tag of $50!!!!!! At 1/3 the price of the NH-D15 G2......... Noctua is more than likely dead in the water.
i ll believe it when i see it
@@ThunderingRoar you’re not wrong. But considering how well their coolers do against the first gen D15, at half the price…..I wouldn’t doubt it myself
king? with only less than 5% difference performance compared to its predecessor while there are many decent air cooler with better price to performance yet you called it king.
160EUR to gain 3C lower temp ? No way, at that price you can get a big top AIO giving you even better temps, or buy a 5-pack of TR PA120^^
Plus my 7950X3D can't exceed 150W, while doing many things tho
it is the king of air cooling, but king of that alone.
Yes it is pricey. But the fact that other manufactures with their own factories are steali... erm borrowing Noctua's ideas and research to rapidly produce their "own" coolers is kinda crazy. It really shows how trailblazing is useless in this day and age, so much that one cannot factor in that cost anymore when the consumer market is heavilly manipulated by more artful dodgery, I agree that other coolers are "worth it"... But as a designer myself, I do respect the origin more than the others that capitalize on these opportunities.
No one speaks to Noctua's customer support or general respect of the sector they are in.
The only thing they trailblazed is selling overpriced brown coolers.
Their success is built on austria-washed taiwanese ODM-work and ideas from industrial sectors crudely adapted for consumer products.
The A14x25 is a kia radiator fan and the rattling heatsink is the same stuff we've had for the last 20 years. RPM offset stolen from the apple mac pro and base convexity/offset mount aren't exactly original ideas either?
@@GrumpiestKitten If those reasons are enough for you that's fine. I would recommend getting the other coolers, they do work well too. Personally have had no issue with my dh15 g2, mount good, quieter than my aio i chucked, and good temps. Also sold my nhd15s as-well and had that for 6 yrs with 2 free mounting upgrades when moving from intel to amd and back.
Noctua still too expensive. Compared to the Phantom Spirit...
The Noctua NH-D15 G2 is overpriced & not worth it, for $10USD more you can buy a NZXT Kraken Elite 280 AIO which will have -10c lower CPU temperature & will perform much better while staying quite. The customer should not be punished because noctua wasted R&D time....
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PHANTOM SPIRIT CHEAPER
Shit...cheaper aio from arctic destroys it
Who is paying $150 for an air cooler, HAHAHA
the king of being overpriced
A king on an empty throne, they have no competition because no one will buy this POS for $150 when equivalents are $40.
Not for this price and this ugly color
Nobody should buy this Fawking overpriced CPU cooler, Noctua & Nvidia are on the same Greedy boat, their objectives is to bleed out Gamers to death, why should i ever pay 150€ for this, unless you're Mad, there are way cheaper CPU cooler that can handle 160W
all these years and noctua still makes their products look like crap, it is too expensive and yeah the quality and additional mounting kits being sent to you is great but nah I'll always go with arctic aios at that price, noctua is just overrated and overpriced
Severely overpriced
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