We just had Bob Dylan here a few days ago. People had to put their phones into little sacks handed to them for the "show" and were not allowed to take them out. Not even press was allowed to film, hence there is no images whatsoever of the concert.
I will say my gf has memory issues so records here and there (15% of concert overall) to look back upon. But overall, yeah, pay attention, be in the vibe, all that. Fully agree!
Thing about people who record on their phones is that 99% of them don't even watch what they recorded after and their friends don't want to watch it either.
This clip here has been clicked over 400.000 times. And the videos I put on UA-cam are watched between some dozen and some thousand times. Sometimes people thank me (or other uploaders) because they could not see the show and can get an impression of how it was by watching the clips.
@@whsonic People watch this video because of the title, not to hear Nick Cave sing or dance. Most don't even know who Nick Cave is outside of Australia.
@@Pippipopfugl well there’s definitely no hope for us vertically challenged people if you struggle to see! I remember the last gig I went to and a guy who was around 7ft stood in front of me with his short partner!! I had to re-locate to another spot so I could see something on the stage!! 🤣
The big thing that phones take away from is the collective experience. Theres a special feeling being in a crowd that is all experiencing something together. Not only do phones block the view, but they subconciously push you back into the individial, instead of being in the collective. Thats why people get upset, they aren't just being stuck up.
I agree, but maybe this highlights that not all people attend the shows for collective experience. Some attend to spend their time - not so much into the artist, not so much into the songs, just a fashionable place to hang out with friends and beer. I am not sure artists were aware of the scale, how many people in their audience are just casual listeners, not devoted fans.
@@vitapont7338 yeah this is a fair point as well, I understand that experience. It does frustrate me that people want to just hang out and talk, but also right at the front with half the group with their back to the band. At the same time, you can't tell people what they can and cannot do. So maybe a sustainable future will be having focus zones that are phone-free or social areas to talk away, but thats more expense on the venue who don't actually care, and only a huge name with pull factor could request that. Eventually, some gigs will just be a write off, if you don't like phones, and that's just the way it'll be.
@@gizzardwizard1 the focus-zones and social chit-chat zones are a good idea. I mean even today's segregation of the main area for VIP (close to the stage) and the rest (starting somewhere abeam the audio mixer complex) towards the back) is a step into this direction, but based on money (ticket price), and no association with phone-free policies. Nevertheless a loud drunk guy shouting from the back was quite disturbing for the vast majority of people during the quieter, calmer songs. Some people cannot cope with their basic responsibilities until security guards throw them out...
@@vitapont7338so you want “no talking zones” how will they enforce that? Like they have security watching everyone’s mouth and if it moves the drag you out? 😂😂 yall just love being told what to do and create more rules…
Envy, Wrath, Anger, Lust, Greed, Gluttony, Sloth...Phone Addiction. I suppose phone over use is a form of gluttony isn't it? Unfettered Consumption. We binge eat and watch.
Why do you assume addiction? Maybe the gig was just boring or dissapointing? Why do you all give yourself right to tell other people how they are suppose to live their life or enjoy their time? He paid for the ticket so as long as he doesn't harm anyone - leave the poor guy/girl alone.
@@seeker_-_ In public, the way you live your life inevitably affects the ones in your proximity. We human beings are part of a whole, and not atomized particles, which is exactly what the majority of people chooses to behave like since the advent of cell phones - always and everywhere attending to them. Holding up your phone you influence the experience for those around you. And not in a way that enhances anyone´s ability to enter the moment they and you came here for.
Taking snapshots of video and photos isn’t a bad thing, it’s like a visual diary. Filming the entire show is an issue though. The amount of information a highly educated person consumed in a lifetime 100 years ago is these days, what most of us consume over a couple of days. Constant streams of data and the result? We just don’t have the capacity to remember concerts like we used to. Our brains don’t consider it important enough… so having little pieces of it to revisit really help. Just don’t obstruct anyone else’s view and don’t film the entire thing. Every tour will have a professional film crew at some point anyway ready to stream it somewhere.
Many years ago, Keith Jarrett s Manager said "Please no Phones, when Jarrett arrives on stage" As Jarrett came, the half of the crowd did make pictures. He left the stage in the next moment..
Prince used to do this too 💜 hate phones at concerts. Why not enjoy the moment rather than concentrating on recording it on a tiny screen with crappy speakers and probably never watching it again! 🤷♀️
It's ironic reading this on social media. Let the people with their 100000 dollar phones get their money's worth. They paid a lot, both for the phone and the ticket.
Let me tell you, hé is not joking in any way, he’s dead serious, put them bloody phones away - they’re spoiling the intimate directness of a concert, wild god’damn..!
no he's not! when i saw him in Dallas back in 2018 he snatched the phone out of the hands of a guy who wouldn't stop recording the whole show right in his face. didn't give it back until the concert was almost over lmao
I would have forgotten some of the shows if I had not made photos or video clips (I'm going to concerts for 45 years). And when I see the photos or the clips, I remember the whole show and evening.
I have been a solid gig goer for 45 years now. Generally I would go towards the front to dance along with my gigging buddies to the music. It was an immersive experience, loosing yourself to the music. However, since smartphones the front section is now mostly a bunch of Karens who get upset if you dare "bump" them while filming. FFS Good on St Nick
"However, since smartphones the front section is now mostly a bunch of Karens who get upset if you dare "bump" them while filming." lol that would only motivate me more to try fire start a mosh pit (or a more energetic crowd in some way, whatever the kind of music allows for of course ;))
I know it’s a different band but just went to iron maiden a few weeks ago and I took my son who is only nineteen and said to him why isn’t there phones up everywhere and he said because everybody is old and just enjoying the music at a concert 😊
I was at Maiden in Sydney and there were a few people being annoying with phones. It's not such a big deal if you've got seats but if you're standing then it's definitely pissing off people behind you. Had some incessant talkers I had to move away from too. Overall though not as bad as some other concerts I've been too.
exactly what I always say too. film it professionally from the sound booth or up on the balcony or somewhere with a good view, then give everyone a download link
We have essentially stopped going to live shows and people holding their phones up all through the show is one of the reasons. It’s friggin annoying. Nobody can just sit and be in the moment and enjoy the show anymore! I wish all performers would do this.
Have you tried Psilocybin? Me thinks not! Good luck changing the whole world. Maybe its just your lack of tolerance that is the issue? Did you ever think of that?
@ that’s my question. And I always wonder if they ever go back and watch the show they recorded? I guess some people post them online but the sound quality is rarely good enough to sit through an entire show. I don’t understand it.
@@janetb2871 In the end I bet they do it because everybody else seems to do it. I swear. Or they are waiting for something special to happen so that they get attention on social media for uploading it.
The best one I saw in Glasgow with warren Elis in small intimate venue of 350 people if that and Nick Cave turned up un announced as Warrens Elis Guest on stage doing the film sound track live OMG It is nice No Cameras !!! to me that is what Gig Should be about
@@Richardb1969 the problem is that this is not a classrom, this old narcissist is not a teacher, and people in crowd are closer to being his employers than his students. If he has daddy issues then he should just go to therapy.
Agree, his narcissism is growing, not shrinking as he'd have us believe. His new fans from the last 10 years worship him as if he's a Sage. However, he's still the same Nick from 40 years ago, an egotistical self lover. I'm a long term fan, the sooner that new fans understand he's merely a self centred person, the better they'll be for it.
Yes, it isn't fair to those without phones, or those with them who prefer to turn them for the duration. But to be honest I think the war is over, phones are there to stay. If you feel strongly about it Mosh till they drop from their hands, this ain't something you get at a Boston Hard Core Cyclone...
I agree with Nick. You are there for a concert experience. You aren't there to live on your phone. Experience it live. LIVE. Don't watch it on your mini Televisions. For cryin' out loud. You are THERE with Nick Cave. Enjoy the experience live as it's meant to be enjoyed.
I love it! I never have my phone out at a concert! Emerce yourself in the experience of now! Its Nick Fxxking Cave people - I've seen his band live & its amazing!
I love Nick Cave anyway .. but now I love him more!! I despise these handheld prisons .. life was a billion times better before mobile bloody phones!!!
LOL you Could elegantly get trashed with out with having pictures posted on face book X Instagram The amount of times I was elegantly Trashed Thank god for those days lol when we did not have these things lol
A big thankyou to Nick Cave. Although I am in my 70's I sometimes go to see "younger" bands, when and where it seems to be normal to lift those f... phones in the air, sometimes even tablets. Every musician should handle it in the Cave-way.
I went to concerts before mobile phones. Like Donington 1992. 30 years later I found a photograph one of the backstage people took and there I was. Right at the front of the crowd, rocking my 16 year old ass off to W.A.S.P. It brought back such memories of the day. Now I only ever film one or two songs tops at a concert and I put it away. The memories are way better than watching it back as video. You have something soul-bound.
I do the same. I usually take a couple of photos and film a small part of a couple of songs (no entire songs), then put it away and enjoy with a nice beer 🍺🍻😊
I am a 39-year-old woman, and I have never had a smartphone or any smart product whatsoever. Deliberately. I am in the middle of the zombie apocalypse, and most people around me have become zombies. But zombies don't know that they are zombies. It's been scary to see how everyone and society have changed drastically, and not for the better.
Societies constantly change, even right now. You will in your lifetime propably witness how smartphones disapear, only to be replaced by the next annoying thing, of course. I, for one, never gave in to getting tattoed although everyone around me, basicaly my whole city, is inked. I think tatoos are corny af. I convince myself that natural skin will make a comeback one day and then everybody will recognize me for being that awesome cool guy without tats 😂😂
I never film at concert or events because everybody else already does. I just look it up online afterwards if I want to rewatch it. It's even better because I see diffrent POVs and i can enjoy the actual concert without hassle. So yeah, keep filming, keep uploading 👍
Not a fan of his music but I admire Cave for this. I go to a lot of concerts and have been waiting for a musician to say something exactly like this. "Let's all take 30 seconds, film me, and then put away the phones for the rest of the concert." Bravo, Nick.
I love to watch concerts from the 70s, 80s and 90s from my favorite bands. It’s so satisfying to see everyone enjoying the show and not a single phone in sight.
We had good drugs! What are the kids using today? Cell phones, and you people still complain? Get off their backs! I went to just under a hundred concerts and never brought a cellphone, but that was back in my day. Its different now, let the kids have their fun. Let them learn their own social etiquette.
And yet there was still a drunk woman just behind me trying to record every song and bumping her phone on my head with each attempt. Drunk enough to piss off some other people around too. Fortunately there was less phones around after that. It's ok to get 30s as a souvenir if you want, hell even get a bootleg if you're up seating. But don't wave that shit in my face down where we're standing.
If you want to record one or two songs, go for it, but I really don't understand recording the whole gig. For me, videos I've filmed are to remind me of a gig I've otherwise largely experienced with my own senses, not through a screen while it's happening
If everyone had that same attitude but didn't agree on WHICH 1-2 songs to record those of us with manners are still looking at a sea of phone screens the whole show so...f-ck off with your "logic". Also, don't you get the glaring self-contradiction of your last sentence?
Yes I agree and it's all about getting the balance right....I can't see the harm of recording one or two songs as long as doing so doesn't affect anyone else. It's the people who lack consideration for others including the band on stage who spoil it for everyone.
No, not even one or two songs. Because if 20k people all record 2 songs each then that's a lot of people standing there holding their phone up like idiots. And normally everyone wants to record the popular song so that means that song is ruined
@@crazyprayingmantis5596It is ok unless it's at the detriment of someone else. I recorded one track from a wonderful Stevie Nicks concert recently and it didn't annoy anyone I can assure you.
Back in the 80s and 90s before smartphones, you would be super lucky to find someone with a camcorder in the audience, especially close to the stage. People just didn't think about that crap like they do today. They enjoyed for the moment.
Im so glad I am from an era when we used to go to gigs and enjoy every moment of being ther, soaking up the atmosphere. Instead of the sad situation now of people being at the concert but viewing it on a tiny screen in their desperation to capture what thy think it was like being there. The irony is because they are dong that, they are not really being there, so to speak.
this is true, although it is always nice to take a short clip as a memory for later years. Due to the high costs, shows rarely get recorded nowadays by professional crews, so it's really up to us. I think it can be done with a good balance, a few 10-15 seconds and then you are back again at enjoying the music for the overwhelming majority of the show.
@@denz180 human memory alone is subject to fading and other distortions. If you look into comments on concert movies on UA-cam from the pre-smartphone era, you can see that a lot of people are very grateful that the event was recorded (by a professional crew) and someone uploaded for everyone to watch (and remember).
that's one way to put it, but wasn't the greatful dead famous for it's fan culture of recording their concerts on private tapes and exchanging them? but naaaah that was something completely different because they were old, so even if they did the same thing it was a different thing
You get into a show and the memory of that show will be strong for years. When the memory fades, you still feel it when thinking about it, even if the details are unclear. Things you felt, saw, even smelled! ….Look at it through a phone, you’ll have a video you’ll watch once to edit for your post/upload, never look at it again and not remember much about the show soon after that. Probably because you have another video to edit/post/upload about something else you did 3 days later. People are robbing their spirit of real growth from deep experience.
People with Alzheimer's often enjoy watching videos of performances they don't remember. When loved ones put them on, they can remember those feelings and sights and smells you just talked about. It's not always about YOU.
You're right - it's not about you. So put your phone away. You are ruining the experience for everyone behind you AND for the artist. It is literally turning on a light in a darkened room. Next time you go to a movie, do I have the right to hold up my phone in front of you and film the whole thing??
@@nathangrantham2677 Oh, I get it. 3-5000 people are all just preparing for wanting to fondly remember Nick Cave when they’re 85 and can’t remember their children. GTFO with that nonsense.
Putting the Alzheimers argument to one side, I'd love to have had just a couple of video clips or even photos of my earlier concerts in the late-80s/early-90s. When I think of them now, I can barely recall them. I do totally get the thing about being in the moment though. I don't get why people attend concerts to basically live it through their mobile phone.
Luv this guys* been having your help since Birthday Party, what a ride it has been. What hellish and ghoulish affairs we've encountered, how much more can we endure?
I've tried recording a live outdoor show before. I was staring at a small screen instead of what was actually happening in front of me - real 3D, sound, talent and people. It left a taste of regret in my mouth.
Nonsense. I started going to shows in the late seventies, and I made photos from the first show I've been (back in the days with a real camera, Canon AE1, sometimes with a second lens to change to tele), and since I got my first smartphone, I also make video clips. I can assure you: I am really present, I enjoy the moment and I'm absolutely not "trapped in virtual reality".
The last time I've been on a rock music show was on Jack White... where there was official ban on phones . Now I only go on very heavy music shows where you can loose or destroy your phone on front because people are going there for war !
2 sides to this really.. I'm glad that some people do record some gigs on their phone as i can sit here watching loads of them on my phone, like gigs i couldnt attend etc... I do get fed up with narccistic phone zombie" me me" influencers that are glued to their phone for 22 hrs a day.
Lame response..were at home watching this,not at a gig,I understand it's a generational thing,but I remember most bands I've ever seen and if I don't I probably had a good time anyway. Old bloke from the past.
Not lame at all. You're just old and will probably suffer from dementia or alzheimers someday. Wouldn't it be cool for a loved one to show those memories to you one day? It is therapeutic to those suffering. It can rehash memories. Or, you can be an old coot about it like nick and cry about technology.
This is stupid!! I watch and listen to recordings of concerts all the time in the car. There it is raw and unedited. The recordings of the Adele concerts in Germany are GEMS! She sings live every time, the differences in the voice, all the little details. I enjoy it every time!
You didn't do it. I really don't understand people - especially who are standing in front of the stage - why filming/streaming instead of dancing and living in the moment. Crazy times. - And how was the concert? - Great, everything is on my phone in a very shitty quality which I never will watch again in my life.
Why would you tell people what to do with their time and money? Did you ever stop and think that maybe some don't dance, but are enjoying the show in their way? And maybe they won't watch the video. That is, again, up to them.....not you.
@@nathangrantham2677 The standing area is for the dance. That was always so and is today as well. If you're sitting and ruining your own experience with recording it, it's up to you (however it's very disturbing for the others sitting next to you). But recording it in front of the stage is not only losing the moment but very, very disrespectful and very annoying for those who want to dance. Not to mention it's very embarrassing, too. The singer/band tries everything for your enjoyment while you sh.t on their effort by holding up your phone instead. Everyone can enjoy the show in his own way but please put your fckn phone away. Thanks.
@@seeker_-_ Yes. There are dumb people who enjoy the moment by recording it. They don't know what they have missed. You can't do anything about that, we live in those times, unfortunately. And they even don't recognize it how disrespectful and annoying their behavior is (as you could see above Nick wasn't that happy about either). Smaller shows still have the vibe and gladly the audience lacks the urgent need to share it online ever.
Let me think... they consider this as a souvenir? They will share it with all those who can`t be there that day? I think it`s quite simple: if musician/band is ok with being recorded everything is fine. When sb. tells to put phones down you just hide it in your pocket.
Holy words. Sure, it's bad when the entire audience is filming with their phones, but what's wrong with a few phones in the crowd while everyone else is enjoying the show? Personally, I don't have the opportunity to attend all the concerts I'd like to attend, and I absolutely enjoy every video from them.
@@yellyman5483 You miss the point. If they're "filming" the experience, they're not actually experiencing the experience: What they are experiencing is a very small (4" x 7", max.), two-dimensional, digitally-recreated facsimile, in real-time, and that bypasses the making-memory part of the experience, hence styfling the ability to actually remember it. Sad, but true. And what's even sadder is this artificial, digital file of an "experience" gets neglected and forgotten after a very short time, not to be viewed again and not to be remembered. Also sad, but true. Oh, and as for paying good money... the venue is a private, not public area where the public, for a price, are invited into. Taking images of other people without their express permission is not some kind of right conferred on a ticket-buyer. With performers/artists, this constitutes a plethora of legal issues: appropriation of professional image, theft of music without paying the appropriate licensing fees to reproduce, and copyright infringement. To think that the price of admission entitles you to do this, is symptomatic of the self-centered and disrespectful times we live in. Again, sad but true.
@@yellyman5483 You miss the point. If they're "filming" the experience, they're not actually experiencing the experience: What they are experiencing is a very small (4" x 7", max.), two-dimensional, digitally-recreated facsimile, in real-time, and that bypasses the making-memory part of the experience, hence impeding the ability to actually remember it. Sad, but true. And what's even sadder is this artificial, digital file of an "experience" gets neglected and forgotten after a very short time, not to be viewed again and not to be remembered. Also sad, but true. Oh, and as for paying good money... the venue is a private, not public area where the public, for a price, are invited into. Taking images of other people without their express permission is not some kind of right conferred on a ticket-buyer. With performers/artists, this constitutes a plethora of legal issues: appropriation of professional image, theft of music without paying the appropriate licensing fees to reproduce, and copyright infringement. To think that the price of admission entitles you to do this, is symptomatic of the self-centered and disrespectful times we live in. Again, sad but true.
@@yellyman5483 You miss the point. If they're "filming" the experience, they're not actually experiencing the experience: What they are experiencing is a very small (4" x 7", max.), two-dimensional, digitally-recreated facsimile, in real-time, and that bypasses the making-memory part of the experience, hence impeding the ability to actually remember it. Sad, but true. And what's even sadder is this artificial, digital file of an "experience" gets neglected and forgotten after a very short time, not to be viewed again and not to be remembered. Also sad, but true. Oh, and as for paying good money... the venue is a private, not public area where the public, for a price, are invited into. Taking images of other people without their express permission is not some kind of right conferred on a ticket-buyer. With performers/artists, this constitutes a plethora of legal issues: appropriation of professional image, theft of music without paying the appropriate licensing fees to reproduce, and copyright infringement. To think that the price of admission entitles you to do this, is symptomatic of the self-centered and disrespectful times we live in. Again, sad but true.
@@yellyman5483 Their minds would record the event and create lasting memories if they weren't so dependent upon their digital devices to remember everything for them. I shocked myself a few years ago when I couldn't remember ten phone numbers of the people I see and talk to the most. When I was a kid, I easily had over a hundred telephone numbers in my head. Cell phones most certainly make people stupid - and we're all guilty of it.
I once visited a show where the musician stopped his performance completely and asked the person in the front row to either stop talking or just leave; she left in shame. He waited until she left the room before he continued. (this was a sit down performance with soft, delicate music. I could hear the woman even though I was like 20 rows behind her)
People who watch the entire concert through their phones have basically missed the experience of watching it live. Also, they could have saved themselves £100 by staying at home and watching it online the next morning. It fair gladdens my heart to see idiots punishing themselves with their own idiocy.
I really don't get it. Why is it so hard for people to understand that there are so many ways in which phone filming can ruin a concert for other people. First of all, you're interfering into a free line of sight for the people behind you. Especially if they' re relatively short and they'd prefer not to watch it through your screen. You are holding a source of intense light higher than most people's heads. Second, even if you look at a concert crowd from a distance, it can still be distracting. Especially if the light technicians, for example, want to darken the place. Third, you are not participating at all, or you're only partially participating in the collective atmosphere since you're distracted yourself. And if you multiply your distracted self by 5000, let's say, then you really affect the whole feeling. Finally, why are you so obsessed with keeping everything in documentation? Our brains forget and it is a part of being human. You will forget most of the data, but you will keep a condensed cognitive/emotional sediment of your experience, which is what an actual memory is. Not a video. And, be real, are you actually going to review that video or picture, among the rest of your 20000ish pictures and videos after a decade? Look, I do get the "that's your opinion, but I like to film" view, but what most performers have been trying to do since ancient times is to be live, which means DIRECT. So, either something is completely messed up in concerts nowadays, or maybe the whole narrative has to change and they should start performing through screens themselves in"live" concerts.
I endorse this 100%! I often take a photo at the venue at the start of the gig (to post on social media) then enjoy the gig phone free. The worst experience is when a fan fav or hit song is played and suddenly 1000 people have their phones out to record ‘the moment’ instead of simply enjoying the moment for real…
Yeah tool, a perfect circle and puscifer gigs have to be the best cos you don’t get this at any of them, I don’t get why people do this is it because it’s a social media thing and have to show off, I’ve been to gigs and they have recorded the whole thing, do people sit at home on their phone watching a whole gig again? I don’t get it!
@@paularnold4021 So it bothers you that people buy a ticket and enjoy the show how they see fit? The venue had no restrictions on phones. Go be a dictator somewhere else
@@nathangrantham2677 I just wonder why people do it, the band are right in front of you why do you have to watch a gig through your phone, enjoy the moment and the atmosphere
I’m glad someone recorded this on a phone and uploaded it.
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We just had Bob Dylan here a few days ago. People had to put their phones into little sacks handed to them for the "show" and were not allowed to take them out.
Not even press was allowed to film, hence there is no images whatsoever of the concert.
Actually this wasn't interesting to watch
This species has amused itself to death.
..amuuused itself to death..
DFW Infinite jest
I see what you did there... 😂
Loved David Foster Wallace, still do.
no feelings left...
I’m so sick of phones at concerts.
Yup, literally like 80% of people are there just to record it
It's very distracting
I will say my gf has memory issues so records here and there (15% of concert overall) to look back upon. But overall, yeah, pay attention, be in the vibe, all that. Fully agree!
Also sick of phones in museums and theatres
@@X900BattleGrape If she has memory issues she will forget again after watching, makes absolutely no sense at all..😅
Thing about people who record on their phones is that 99% of them don't even watch what they recorded after and their friends don't want to watch it either.
This clip here has been clicked over 400.000 times.
And the videos I put on UA-cam are watched between some dozen and some thousand times.
Sometimes people thank me (or other uploaders) because they could not see the show and can get an impression of how it was by watching the clips.
@@whsonic People watch this video because of the title, not to hear Nick Cave sing or dance. Most don't even know who Nick Cave is outside of Australia.
@@23ofSeptember certainly not. He plays in sold-out 10.000+ halls and had various No. 1 albums.
@@23ofSeptember What an idiotic comment, seriously...
@@23ofSeptemberyep.
Hilarious moves when he struck poses for them. Well done Mr. Cave.
As a woman under 5ft I find it so frustrating not being able to see much because people are filming in front of me at gigs! So bravo to Nick Cave 👏 👏👏
@@chuckyarlaw7380 almost! 🤣🤣🤣
@@lollapop7673 😅👍🫡
Same here.
I'm 6.1 foot tall and I can't see a damn thing either unless it's through someone's phone 🤳🏼
@@Pippipopfugl well there’s definitely no hope for us vertically challenged people if you struggle to see! I remember the last gig I went to and a guy who was around 7ft stood in front of me with his short partner!! I had to re-locate to another spot so I could see something on the stage!! 🤣
The big thing that phones take away from is the collective experience. Theres a special feeling being in a crowd that is all experiencing something together. Not only do phones block the view, but they subconciously push you back into the individial, instead of being in the collective. Thats why people get upset, they aren't just being stuck up.
It's the fucking talkers that do my head in.
I agree, but maybe this highlights that not all people attend the shows for collective experience. Some attend to spend their time - not so much into the artist, not so much into the songs, just a fashionable place to hang out with friends and beer. I am not sure artists were aware of the scale, how many people in their audience are just casual listeners, not devoted fans.
@@vitapont7338 yeah this is a fair point as well, I understand that experience. It does frustrate me that people want to just hang out and talk, but also right at the front with half the group with their back to the band. At the same time, you can't tell people what they can and cannot do. So maybe a sustainable future will be having focus zones that are phone-free or social areas to talk away, but thats more expense on the venue who don't actually care, and only a huge name with pull factor could request that. Eventually, some gigs will just be a write off, if you don't like phones, and that's just the way it'll be.
@@gizzardwizard1 the focus-zones and social chit-chat zones are a good idea. I mean even today's segregation of the main area for VIP (close to the stage) and the rest (starting somewhere abeam the audio mixer complex) towards the back) is a step into this direction, but based on money (ticket price), and no association with phone-free policies. Nevertheless a loud drunk guy shouting from the back was quite disturbing for the vast majority of people during the quieter, calmer songs. Some people cannot cope with their basic responsibilities until security guards throw them out...
@@vitapont7338so you want “no talking zones” how will they enforce that? Like they have security watching everyone’s mouth and if it moves the drag you out? 😂😂 yall just love being told what to do and create more rules…
Phone addiction is one of the most unattractive and repellent characteristics of people.
Envy, Wrath, Anger, Lust, Greed, Gluttony, Sloth...Phone Addiction.
I suppose phone over use is a form of gluttony isn't it? Unfettered Consumption. We binge eat and watch.
Why do you assume addiction? Maybe the gig was just boring or dissapointing? Why do you all give yourself right to tell other people how they are suppose to live their life or enjoy their time? He paid for the ticket so as long as he doesn't harm anyone - leave the poor guy/girl alone.
But there is hope. There have been less and less of them
i see New Moms pushing strollers On their Phones...are they already bored with the baby?
@@seeker_-_ In public, the way you live your life inevitably affects the ones in your proximity. We human beings are part of a whole, and not atomized particles, which is exactly what the majority of people chooses to behave like since the advent of cell phones - always and everywhere attending to them. Holding up your phone you influence the experience for those around you. And not in a way that enhances anyone´s ability to enter the moment they and you came here for.
I have to agree. What ever happened to enjoying a concert and watching it like normal people. Put those phones away please.
Taking snapshots of video and photos isn’t a bad thing, it’s like a visual diary. Filming the entire show is an issue though. The amount of information a highly educated person consumed in a lifetime 100 years ago is these days, what most of us consume over a couple of days. Constant streams of data and the result? We just don’t have the capacity to remember concerts like we used to. Our brains don’t consider it important enough… so having little pieces of it to revisit really help. Just don’t obstruct anyone else’s view and don’t film the entire thing. Every tour will have a professional film crew at some point anyway ready to stream it somewhere.
@Nobddy Perfect reply.
I wish all musicians did the same thing before their concerts!
King crimson did it when I saw them with a public announcement from Robert Fripp before the concert started.
Many years ago, Keith Jarrett s Manager said "Please no Phones, when Jarrett arrives on stage" As Jarrett came, the half of the crowd did make pictures. He left the stage in the next moment..
Prince used to do this too 💜 hate phones at concerts. Why not enjoy the moment rather than concentrating on recording it on a tiny screen with crappy speakers and probably never watching it again! 🤷♀️
@@jamesmacleod671Yea What a lame band! Lol What kind of dorky boomer bans phones from a show
Yet here we are using our iPhones to watch this video
Absolutely! Live in the moment and not as a social media muppet! 😂
It's ironic reading this on social media.
Let the people with their 100000 dollar phones get their money's worth.
They paid a lot, both for the phone and the ticket.
@@DTSC_AISongCovers Agree. Also, I found his choice of words a bit rude
@@DTSC_AISongCoversWHAT?!
Let me tell you, hé is not joking in any way, he’s dead serious, put them bloody phones away - they’re spoiling the intimate directness of a concert, wild god’damn..!
For you maybe. Not for everyone :)
no he's not! when i saw him in Dallas back in 2018 he snatched the phone out of the hands of a guy who wouldn't stop recording the whole show right in his face. didn't give it back until the concert was almost over lmao
It's funny that a camera captured the incident.
Well done Nick Cave,concerts are recorded for people to watch after,why pay all that money and not be "present ",at a gig...it's insane.
You couldn't even respond if this wasn't filmed.
I can still remember all my concerts I went to and the feeling ! Had no phone .it’s my special little place in my mind that I visit often. Beautiful.🤪
Oh, yeah. I think I'll stay away from concerts. Don't want to experience this.
I would have forgotten some of the shows if I had not made photos or video clips (I'm going to concerts for 45 years). And when I see the photos or the clips, I remember the whole show and evening.
Beautifully put. The memories are better than any photo. The sounds, the smell, the feeling of the gig.
I always get a photo or two and maybe a 20sec video for the memories
@@Skatted I guess Cave was complaining about the spectators ruining the mood. Like more interested in recording than fully engaging.
Love this! Turn your phones off at gigs please
No way. How about you stop whining on a video that was made on a phone? Wake up and smell the irony, snowflake.
I have been a solid gig goer for 45 years now. Generally I would go towards the front to dance along with my gigging buddies to the music. It was an immersive experience, loosing yourself to the music. However, since smartphones the front section is now mostly a bunch of Karens who get upset if you dare "bump" them while filming. FFS
Good on St Nick
😂 I make sure those front rows are nothing but dancing people vibing with the band....😉🔥
Did you let "loose" in the front row?
@@roadcyclist1 I am a master of the glare and strategic shove.
"However, since smartphones the front section is now mostly a bunch of Karens who get upset if you dare "bump" them while filming."
lol that would only motivate me more to try fire start a mosh pit (or a more energetic crowd in some way, whatever the kind of music allows for of course ;))
Ask them, "need a good fuck?"
If they reply with "no", then say "then why are you being such pussies?"
I know it’s a different band but just went to iron maiden a few weeks ago and I took my son who is only nineteen and said to him why isn’t there phones up everywhere and he said because everybody is old and just enjoying the music at a concert 😊
Only by the sad fuckers .@@johnnyrocker7495
I was at Maiden in Sydney and there were a few people being annoying with phones. It's not such a big deal if you've got seats but if you're standing then it's definitely pissing off people behind you. Had some incessant talkers I had to move away from too.
Overall though not as bad as some other concerts I've been too.
The old ones are the worst
@@alugificator If oyu have seats at a metal concert, than you are far less enjoying it than if you would record th whole show in my opinion.
Me too, that's so funny and I noticed the same thing! No phones being held up or really even noticeable at all at Iron Maiden.
He’s definitely right!!
It’s the curse of this century, damned “smartphones”!!
Indeed. Smarter phones make dumber people.
i can imagine an equally rock-brained ancestor of yours cursing the invention of the written language.
Ok gramps
He’s in damn good shape for 67
He’d be as bald as a badger if it wasn’t for a hair transplant a few years ago
@@nmp290765That has zero to do with being in shape Sherlock. But nice try midget..
It's not only about hair in particular...
He's 67? Wow
@@nmp290765 What does the loss of hair have to do with the shape you're in?
They should film the concert and give ticket holders a code to download it if they want and people won't need to film. Pragmatic solutions .
Several years ago, some larger venues would record live shows and then sell what they called "instant bootleg" CDs right after the show.
Oh my god, it was years ago
exactly what I always say too. film it professionally from the sound booth or up on the balcony or somewhere with a good view, then give everyone a download link
I don't think ticket holders are entitled to that. They can go to the concert or watch a concert video. They don't need two for the price of one.
@@willyupshawHave you seen ticket prices lately?
@0:50, every high-school teacher in 2024!
😂😂😂😂 🙌🙌🙌
Has anyone asked, while did this problem (phones at school) suddenly became so urgent worldwide?
I don't blame him. I'm grateful I graduated before them damn things assimilated the attention spans of the youth... and just about everyone else.
Wonderful!!! I love how Nick Cave handled those annoying people with cell phones. Experience the moment in it's fullness.
I’m glad artists are starting to speak up!!
Corey Taylor started it, among some others. :P
Couldn't agree more. Watch it, get into it, feel it and remember it.
We have essentially stopped going to live shows and people holding their phones up all through the show is one of the reasons. It’s friggin annoying. Nobody can just sit and be in the moment and enjoy the show anymore! I wish all performers would do this.
Have you tried Psilocybin? Me thinks not! Good luck changing the whole world. Maybe its just your lack of tolerance that is the issue? Did you ever think of that?
Holding their phones up for the entire show? How do they still enjoy the concert if they're filming the entire time
@ that’s my question. And I always wonder if they ever go back and watch the show they recorded? I guess some people post them online but the sound quality is rarely good enough to sit through an entire show. I don’t understand it.
Why don't you go to concert where people don't do that because maybe the act isn't famous enough?
@@janetb2871 In the end I bet they do it because everybody else seems to do it. I swear. Or they are waiting for something special to happen so that they get attention on social media for uploading it.
Saw Nick Cave years ago. Unforgettable concert. He’s an incredible artist.
And I didn’t have a phone.
The best one I saw in Glasgow with warren Elis in small intimate venue of 350 people if that and Nick Cave turned up un announced as Warrens Elis Guest on stage doing the film sound track live OMG It is nice No Cameras !!! to me that is what Gig Should be about
Same here. Nothing more annoying than phones and talkers.
@@danielpayne500
Warren played with Nick when I saw him too.
Amazing show.
His father was a teacher. Nick Cave is definitely channeling him here.
Exactly. The difference is - we are not his children, nor his students. What an old, sad, vain jackass.
I thought his father was a gambler, down in New Orleans.
His father was a man can you imagine?
@@Richardb1969 the problem is that this is not a classrom, this old narcissist is not a teacher, and people in crowd are closer to being his employers than his students. If he has daddy issues then he should just go to therapy.
Agree, his narcissism is growing, not shrinking as he'd have us believe. His new fans from the last 10 years worship him as if he's a Sage. However, he's still the same Nick from 40 years ago, an egotistical self lover. I'm a long term fan, the sooner that new fans understand he's merely a self centred person, the better they'll be for it.
Lmao the people filming him saying “put your phones away” with their phones 😂 ADDICTED
Mr Cave hats off and bow to your reasoning! Great artist and man!
Went to the flaming lips and an old man was snoring away in front of me, mouth open and everything. 😂❤
Dont blame him!
I never even used to take a phone into a venue. Now virtually every major venue in the UK has mobile ticket entry only.
Correct
So you can't even print your ticket? What the fuck.
@@PM-vv3uc Nope. They use dynamic QR/bar codes which constantly change and must be displayed on the phone app.
@@Rosecooper-l1e well that’s not fair to those without phones.
Yes, it isn't fair to those without phones, or those with them who prefer to turn them for the duration. But to be honest I think the war is over, phones are there to stay. If you feel strongly about it Mosh till they drop from their hands, this ain't something you get at a Boston Hard Core Cyclone...
I agree with Nick. You are there for a concert experience. You aren't there to live on your phone. Experience it live. LIVE. Don't watch it on your mini Televisions. For cryin' out loud. You are THERE with Nick Cave. Enjoy the experience live as it's meant to be enjoyed.
@@maureenwagg5305 sorry maureen,accidental dislike,I completely agree with you.
@@maureenwagg5305 plus you paid for that, after all.
@@Groundedsquirrel Maybe they aren't there because they actually care about music.
I love it! I never have my phone out at a concert! Emerce yourself in the experience of now!
Its Nick Fxxking Cave people - I've seen his band live & its amazing!
Funny I snuck large cameras and bulky cassettes into arenas in the 80's and now they say I'm a hero.
@@allen-rp3gm probably because you were sneaky you didn’t disturb anyone who paid good money to see ;)
The worst part of phones are the screens lighting up the concert where they shouldn't be.
I think cuz it was only a few people doing that, whereas now, it’s everyone basically
I love Nick Cave anyway .. but now I love him more!! I despise these handheld prisons .. life was a billion times better before mobile bloody phones!!!
The apt word is prison.
My good mate can't even go to the park (about 100 from where he was staying) without his phone.
The addiction is very real
LOL you Could elegantly get trashed with out with having pictures posted on face book X Instagram The amount of times I was elegantly Trashed Thank god for those days lol when we did not have these things lol
So you love him more because what he did and you got to see what he did because guess what someone recorded it with there phone
No it was a trillion times better
An amazing Showman Nick Cave. Well done!
A big thankyou to Nick Cave. Although I am in my 70's I sometimes go to see "younger" bands, when and where it seems to be normal to lift those f... phones in the air, sometimes even tablets. Every musician should handle it in the Cave-way.
"Even tablets" that's insane
I went to concerts before mobile phones. Like Donington 1992. 30 years later I found a photograph one of the backstage people took and there I was. Right at the front of the crowd, rocking my 16 year old ass off to W.A.S.P. It brought back such memories of the day. Now I only ever film one or two songs tops at a concert and I put it away. The memories are way better than watching it back as video. You have something soul-bound.
One or two songs sounds like a lot to me, a lot of wasted experience. Just my opinion.
@@Groundedsquirrel depends how long the set is I guess. If they only play 5 songs then yeah, but if it's a 3 hour gig then no.
I do the same. I usually take a couple of photos and film a small part of a couple of songs (no entire songs), then put it away and enjoy with a nice beer 🍺🍻😊
I am a 39-year-old woman, and I have never had a smartphone or any smart product whatsoever. Deliberately. I am in the middle of the zombie apocalypse, and most people around me have become zombies. But zombies don't know that they are zombies. It's been scary to see how everyone and society have changed drastically, and not for the better.
🤣🤣same for me.
Societies constantly change, even right now. You will in your lifetime propably witness how smartphones disapear, only to be replaced by the next annoying thing, of course.
I, for one, never gave in to getting tattoed although everyone around me, basicaly my whole city, is inked. I think tatoos are corny af. I convince myself that natural skin will make a comeback one day and then everybody will recognize me for being that awesome cool guy without tats 😂😂
@@thebrettyouneed178I like this meeting of cool guys and ladies here in no tattoos and no phone land
I never film at concert or events because everybody else already does. I just look it up online afterwards if I want to rewatch it. It's even better because I see diffrent POVs and i can enjoy the actual concert without hassle. So yeah, keep filming, keep uploading 👍
Thank you! We don’t live in north korea 🇰🇵
@@gilbert928 at a north korean nick cave concert all the cameras are pointed at you 😁
@@thebrettyouneed178 🤣
Not a fan of his music but I admire Cave for this. I go to a lot of concerts and have been waiting for a musician to say something exactly like this. "Let's all take 30 seconds, film me, and then put away the phones for the rest of the concert." Bravo, Nick.
I use this thing called my memory to remember things. I know far out right?
Someday your memory won't be as sharp, and you won't even remember you posted this.
Hopefully I will forget your oh so droll comment as well.
As a professional photographer who gets paid thousands upon thousands of dollars to capture peoples memories, no, you don't.
@@MawcDrums What does getting paid to take photos of things prove?
@@Pneumanon that memory alone isn't sufficient for many people, there is value in capturing history.
I love to watch concerts from the 70s, 80s and 90s from my favorite bands. It’s so satisfying to see everyone enjoying the show and not a single phone in sight.
Good job they were filmed
@@TheColeman83Yes, with professional cameras in multiple angles. Good job indeed.
We had good drugs! What are the kids using today? Cell phones, and you people still complain? Get off their backs! I went to just under a hundred concerts and never brought a cellphone, but that was back in my day. Its different now, let the kids have their fun. Let them learn their own social etiquette.
@@stefanschleps8758ok boomer
@@lastofanancientbreed8616 DUMBPHONES FOR DUMBIDIOTS They should be FORBIDDEN at every gig! YOU are a dumb idiot
Well done, Nick!
Right on Brother! We can excuse the posting of this for his taking a stand! 💛🎶🙏🏻
I didn't even know who is he before watching this video, but I love him! I hope all the artists would do the same👏👏👏
And yet there was still a drunk woman just behind me trying to record every song and bumping her phone on my head with each attempt. Drunk enough to piss off some other people around too. Fortunately there was less phones around after that. It's ok to get 30s as a souvenir if you want, hell even get a bootleg if you're up seating. But don't wave that shit in my face down where we're standing.
And you think that the bigger problem was her phone than being drunk and hitting you physically with anything? lol.
This is 2024 there are no more people left nick! Just phone zombies!
If you want to record one or two songs, go for it, but I really don't understand recording the whole gig. For me, videos I've filmed are to remind me of a gig I've otherwise largely experienced with my own senses, not through a screen while it's happening
If everyone had that same attitude but didn't agree on WHICH 1-2 songs to record those of us with manners are still looking at a sea of phone screens the whole show so...f-ck off with your "logic". Also, don't you get the glaring self-contradiction of your last sentence?
Yes I agree and it's all about getting the balance right....I can't see the harm of recording one or two songs as long as doing so doesn't affect anyone else.
It's the people who lack consideration for others including the band on stage who spoil it for everyone.
Oh so we should record just one or two song because YOU don't understand people who act differently? Lol, what a freedom from a music fan.
No, not even one or two songs.
Because if 20k people all record 2 songs each then that's a lot of people standing there holding their phone up like idiots.
And normally everyone wants to record the popular song so that means that song is ruined
@@crazyprayingmantis5596It is ok unless it's at the detriment of someone else.
I recorded one track from a wonderful Stevie Nicks concert recently and it didn't annoy anyone I can assure you.
Brilliant. Looking forward to the gig in Glasgow 2024 even more now.
Back in the 80s and 90s before smartphones, you would be super lucky to find someone with a camcorder in the audience, especially close to the stage. People just didn't think about that crap like they do today. They enjoyed for the moment.
Im so glad I am from an era when we used to go to gigs and enjoy every moment of being ther, soaking up the atmosphere. Instead of the sad situation now of people being at the concert but viewing it on a tiny screen in their desperation to capture what thy think it was like being there. The irony is because they are dong that, they are not really being there, so to speak.
this is true, although it is always nice to take a short clip as a memory for later years. Due to the high costs, shows rarely get recorded nowadays by professional crews, so it's really up to us. I think it can be done with a good balance, a few 10-15 seconds and then you are back again at enjoying the music for the overwhelming majority of the show.
@vitapont7338 why? Do we really need any kind of pictures? Live music is an experience and the pictures should be in your memory
Bracelets and cards on our bodies, surrounded by phones fanatics, I gave up years ago to participate at music events.
@@denz180 human memory alone is subject to fading and other distortions. If you look into comments on concert movies on UA-cam from the pre-smartphone era, you can see that a lot of people are very grateful that the event was recorded (by a professional crew) and someone uploaded for everyone to watch (and remember).
that's one way to put it, but wasn't the greatful dead famous for it's fan culture of recording their concerts on private tapes and exchanging them? but naaaah that was something completely different because they were old, so even if they did the same thing it was a different thing
about time - can see Nick instead of phones
You get into a show and the memory of that show will be strong for years. When the memory fades, you still feel it when thinking about it, even if the details are unclear. Things you felt, saw, even smelled! ….Look at it through a phone, you’ll have a video you’ll watch once to edit for your post/upload, never look at it again and not remember much about the show soon after that. Probably because you have another video to edit/post/upload about something else you did 3 days later. People are robbing their spirit of real growth from deep experience.
People with Alzheimer's often enjoy watching videos of performances they don't remember. When loved ones put them on, they can remember those feelings and sights and smells you just talked about. It's not always about YOU.
You're right - it's not about you. So put your phone away. You are ruining the experience for everyone behind you AND for the artist. It is literally turning on a light in a darkened room. Next time you go to a movie, do I have the right to hold up my phone in front of you and film the whole thing??
@@nathangrantham2677 Oh, I get it. 3-5000 people are all just preparing for wanting to fondly remember Nick Cave when they’re 85 and can’t remember their children. GTFO with that nonsense.
@@nathangrantham2677 you type that while driving and ran over a 12 year old. for shame !
Putting the Alzheimers argument to one side, I'd love to have had just a couple of video clips or even photos of my earlier concerts in the late-80s/early-90s. When I think of them now, I can barely recall them. I do totally get the thing about being in the moment though. I don't get why people attend concerts to basically live it through their mobile phone.
Luv this guys* been having your help since Birthday Party, what a ride it has been. What hellish and ghoulish affairs we've encountered, how much more can we endure?
I've tried recording a live outdoor show before. I was staring at a small screen instead of what was actually happening in front of me - real 3D, sound, talent and people. It left a taste of regret in my mouth.
Thats ironic that it is recorded lol
@@agatagornicka5904 true 😉
from a safe distance" 😇
It’s not.
@@vitapont7338the problem IS the distance of the fact😮😂
At least, in this case, the message is being shared. So I'd give whoever recorded this bit a pass
All these phone addicts are not really present at life events. Physically they are life at this concert but mentally trapped in virtual reality.
Dude can't sing only reason he didn't want vids taken lol holding something in your hand changes nothing
Speak for yourself!
Nonsense. I started going to shows in the late seventies, and I made photos from the first show I've been (back in the days with a real camera, Canon AE1, sometimes with a second lens to change to tele), and since I got my first smartphone, I also make video clips.
I can assure you: I am really present, I enjoy the moment and I'm absolutely not "trapped in virtual reality".
@@whsonic Exactly.
@@whsonic That person is talking about people who constantly film everything! Intead of singing, clapping, feeling, dancing, jumping, experiencing.
Nick Cave is the kindergarten teacher we all need right now.
That would depend on where you stand on Palestine.
lol
@@Lexcoaster I stand with Nick & Israel
Brilliant!! Thanks Nick. Good ol' Aussie.
😂 nice headline. Got me in here and comment. For the algorithm! 👍
The last time I've been on a rock music show was on Jack White... where there was official ban on phones . Now I only go on very heavy music shows where you can loose or destroy your phone on front because people are going there for war !
2 sides to this really..
I'm glad that some people do record some gigs on their phone as i can sit here watching loads of them on my phone, like gigs i couldnt attend etc...
I do get fed up with narccistic phone zombie" me me" influencers that are glued to their phone for 22 hrs a day.
A memory, firsthand, in the moment is way more satisfying than a video of a memory
thanks whoever recorded this phone joke, on a phone...
It obviously was not recorded on a phone.
Oh Sick! Love Wild God, gonna film that one!
You didn’t put your phone away.
warming up for Budapest today, this looks to be fun! 😂
@@vitapont7338 Man, I envy you. You have the greatest show ahead of you.
See you tonight🎉
Charge your phone then! 😉
@@stefanod666 in Budapest, he asked the guys and girls in the front row to put them away, too. Without the F-word 😂
People coming here to bash phones at concerts while watching this video of a phone recorded gig is hilarious 😅
Lame response..were at home watching this,not at a gig,I understand it's a generational thing,but I remember most bands I've ever seen and if I don't I probably had a good time anyway. Old bloke from the past.
Not lame at all. You're just old and will probably suffer from dementia or alzheimers someday. Wouldn't it be cool for a loved one to show those memories to you one day? It is therapeutic to those suffering. It can rehash memories. Or, you can be an old coot about it like nick and cry about technology.
smart phone addict detected
Just to be clear,I only watched this for the headline about Cave calling out these idiots I would never watch a gig filmed on someone's dumbass phone.
This is stupid!! I watch and listen to recordings of concerts all the time in the car. There it is raw and unedited. The recordings of the Adele concerts in Germany are GEMS! She sings live every time, the differences in the voice, all the little details. I enjoy it every time!
Legend says the one filming was literally the ONLY one not to put his phone away😂
😂😂
♥ Enjoy the artist, the concert and your life *without* your one and only friend - the phone!
You didn't do it.
I really don't understand people - especially who are standing in front of the stage - why filming/streaming instead of dancing and living in the moment.
Crazy times.
- And how was the concert?
- Great, everything is on my phone in a very shitty quality which I never will watch again in my life.
Why would you tell people what to do with their time and money? Did you ever stop and think that maybe some don't dance, but are enjoying the show in their way? And maybe they won't watch the video. That is, again, up to them.....not you.
@@nathangrantham2677 The standing area is for the dance. That was always so and is today as well.
If you're sitting and ruining your own experience with recording it, it's up to you (however it's very disturbing for the others sitting next to you).
But recording it in front of the stage is not only losing the moment but very, very disrespectful and very annoying for those who want to dance. Not to mention it's very embarrassing, too.
The singer/band tries everything for your enjoyment while you sh.t on their effort by holding up your phone instead.
Everyone can enjoy the show in his own way but please put your fckn phone away.
Thanks.
I can reveal to you that huge secret - they do this BECAUSE THEY WANT TO. Shocking.
@@seeker_-_ Yes. There are dumb people who enjoy the moment by recording it. They don't know what they have missed. You can't do anything about that, we live in those times, unfortunately.
And they even don't recognize it how disrespectful and annoying their behavior is (as you could see above Nick wasn't that happy about either).
Smaller shows still have the vibe and gladly the audience lacks the urgent need to share it online ever.
Let me think... they consider this as a souvenir? They will share it with all those who can`t be there that day? I think it`s quite simple: if musician/band is ok with being recorded everything is fine. When sb. tells to put phones down you just hide it in your pocket.
Jethro Tull preferred that no phones were out until the encore,then fill yer boots!
Great idea, even though I prefer none at all.
Maximum respect to this legend for highlighting this phone epidemic that's plaguing today's live music events 👏✊
Reminds me of the last shots in 'pleasure heads must burn' movie. Good old Nick...40 years on and he still hates people filming at concerts. Legend.
The paradox, that this video is filmed. So we have the ability to see and respond. And like be judgemental about others.
@@jt11erink one who mentioned this.
yeah really ironic - just put the phone away.
Im not holding my fucking PC monitor up at a gig though am I?
Holy words. Sure, it's bad when the entire audience is filming with their phones, but what's wrong with a few phones in the crowd while everyone else is enjoying the show? Personally, I don't have the opportunity to attend all the concerts I'd like to attend, and I absolutely enjoy every video from them.
@@DavidGraeberWasRighti think you must've misunderstood the statement
The irony of someone filming an artist telling the audience to put their phones away!!
People with phone will never remember that they were there! Empty heads!
People pay good money to go on these concerts. If they want to film the experience then that`s ok.
@@yellyman5483 You miss the point. If they're "filming" the experience, they're not actually experiencing the experience: What they are experiencing is a very small (4" x 7", max.), two-dimensional, digitally-recreated facsimile, in real-time, and that bypasses the making-memory part of the experience, hence styfling the ability to actually remember it. Sad, but true. And what's even sadder is this artificial, digital file of an "experience" gets neglected and forgotten after a very short time, not to be viewed again and not to be remembered. Also sad, but true.
Oh, and as for paying good money... the venue is a private, not public area where the public, for a price, are invited into. Taking images of other people without their express permission is not some kind of right conferred on a ticket-buyer. With performers/artists, this constitutes a plethora of legal issues: appropriation of professional image, theft of music without paying the appropriate licensing fees to reproduce, and copyright infringement. To think that the price of admission entitles you to do this, is symptomatic of the self-centered and disrespectful times we live in.
Again, sad but true.
@@yellyman5483 You miss the point. If they're "filming" the experience, they're not actually experiencing the experience: What they are experiencing is a very small (4" x 7", max.), two-dimensional, digitally-recreated facsimile, in real-time, and that bypasses the making-memory part of the experience, hence impeding the ability to actually remember it. Sad, but true. And what's even sadder is this artificial, digital file of an "experience" gets neglected and forgotten after a very short time, not to be viewed again and not to be remembered. Also sad, but true.
Oh, and as for paying good money... the venue is a private, not public area where the public, for a price, are invited into. Taking images of other people without their express permission is not some kind of right conferred on a ticket-buyer. With performers/artists, this constitutes a plethora of legal issues: appropriation of professional image, theft of music without paying the appropriate licensing fees to reproduce, and copyright infringement. To think that the price of admission entitles you to do this, is symptomatic of the self-centered and disrespectful times we live in.
Again, sad but true.
@@yellyman5483 You miss the point. If they're "filming" the experience, they're not actually experiencing the experience: What they are experiencing is a very small (4" x 7", max.), two-dimensional, digitally-recreated facsimile, in real-time, and that bypasses the making-memory part of the experience, hence impeding the ability to actually remember it. Sad, but true. And what's even sadder is this artificial, digital file of an "experience" gets neglected and forgotten after a very short time, not to be viewed again and not to be remembered. Also sad, but true.
Oh, and as for paying good money... the venue is a private, not public area where the public, for a price, are invited into. Taking images of other people without their express permission is not some kind of right conferred on a ticket-buyer. With performers/artists, this constitutes a plethora of legal issues: appropriation of professional image, theft of music without paying the appropriate licensing fees to reproduce, and copyright infringement. To think that the price of admission entitles you to do this, is symptomatic of the self-centered and disrespectful times we live in.
Again, sad but true.
@@yellyman5483 Their minds would record the event and create lasting memories if they weren't so dependent upon their digital devices to remember everything for them.
I shocked myself a few years ago when I couldn't remember ten phone numbers of the people I see and talk to the most. When I was a kid, I easily had over a hundred telephone numbers in my head. Cell phones most certainly make people stupid - and we're all guilty of it.
Well said. The only experience you’re sharing with your friends when you video something, is your friends experience of seeing it on your tiny screen.
I'm watching this clip on my phone during another Nick Cave live show. :)
be careful! this can destroy the internet.
Excellent!
I much prefer people recording with their phones than people who can't STFU while the musicians are performing.
Edit: Excluding people singing along.
the music should be loud enough
Well there are many ways to ruin the experience and both of those in big doses can do it
You're crazy. It's a concert. Of course people will sing
@@MiguelLopez-fs3llSorry for not clarifying: I'm not talking about people singing along.
I once visited a show where the musician stopped his performance completely and asked the person in the front row to either stop talking or just leave; she left in shame. He waited until she left the room before he continued.
(this was a sit down performance with soft, delicate music. I could hear the woman even though I was like 20 rows behind her)
The end of the world will go through these fucking "smart" phones!
panopticon, hive minded society, optogenetics
Finally, going to a concert and seeing everyone with a phone up just kills the whole mood.
Good on him! Be in the moment people!
People who watch the entire concert through their phones have basically missed the experience of watching it live. Also, they could have saved themselves £100 by staying at home and watching it online the next morning. It fair gladdens my heart to see idiots punishing themselves with their own idiocy.
but im watching this on my phucking fone! 😂💛
No reason for rudeness...you aren't blocking hundreds of people's view though are you?!
Go watch any rock concert from the 90's - none of that smartphone bullshit, and my GOD... it was WILD!
Try the 80s! We had it so good!
How do you “watch” any concert when very few were ever professionally filmed?
Finally
Big big respect
Well said man.
Put it away put it away put it away now!!!!!!
😂😂
I really don't get it. Why is it so hard for people to understand that there are so many ways in which phone filming can ruin a concert for other people. First of all, you're interfering into a free line of sight for the people behind you. Especially if they' re relatively short and they'd prefer not to watch it through your screen. You are holding a source of intense light higher than most people's heads. Second, even if you look at a concert crowd from a distance, it can still be distracting. Especially if the light technicians, for example, want to darken the place. Third, you are not participating at all, or you're only partially participating in the collective atmosphere since you're distracted yourself. And if you multiply your distracted self by 5000, let's say, then you really affect the whole feeling. Finally, why are you so obsessed with keeping everything in documentation? Our brains forget and it is a part of being human. You will forget most of the data, but you will keep a condensed cognitive/emotional sediment of your experience, which is what an actual memory is. Not a video. And, be real, are you actually going to review that video or picture, among the rest of your 20000ish pictures and videos after a decade?
Look, I do get the "that's your opinion, but I like to film" view, but what most performers have been trying to do since ancient times is to be live, which means DIRECT. So, either something is completely messed up in concerts nowadays, or maybe the whole narrative has to change and they should start performing through screens themselves in"live" concerts.
I'm sick of people and their phones at concerts
Even worse, many concerts are faked anyway with prerecorded music.
Top man Mr. Cave! It's so intrusive to try to watch a live performance with someone else's screen flashing about in front of your view.
I endorse this 100%! I often take a photo at the venue at the start of the gig (to post on social media) then enjoy the gig phone free. The worst experience is when a fan fav or hit song is played and suddenly 1000 people have their phones out to record ‘the moment’ instead of simply enjoying the moment for real…
Never filmed a concert, don't have a smart phone, life is good.
Bro wrote this comment via phone
@@hellfirebikerz "Bro" never heard of a computer.
@JoeDubh it's not that serious pal
@@hellfirebikerz Oh good, I thought it was serious, hellfirebikerz! Badass name btw, the skull pic is pretty cool too bro.
Just look at concert crowds from like 25-30 years ago. People are so engaged and in the moment.
exactly and punching the air and getting rght into it all and singing along and clapping and cheering loads between songs
Maynard would love this!!!!
Yeah tool, a perfect circle and puscifer gigs have to be the best cos you don’t get this at any of them, I don’t get why people do this is it because it’s a social media thing and have to show off, I’ve been to gigs and they have recorded the whole thing, do people sit at home on their phone watching a whole gig again? I don’t get it!
@@datrenarakiel8202 ?
@@paularnold4021 So it bothers you that people buy a ticket and enjoy the show how they see fit? The venue had no restrictions on phones. Go be a dictator somewhere else
@@nathangrantham2677 Exactly. Well said.
@@nathangrantham2677 I just wonder why people do it, the band are right in front of you why do you have to watch a gig through your phone, enjoy the moment and the atmosphere
Record every thing you experience in your life on your phone, than watch it all back after you're dead. Excellent idea.💯👌
Way to go, Nick! Just have a “no phones rule” like Maynard. My favorite concert rule. ❤