2024 Toyota Tacoma Engineer Explains The New Engine and Suspension
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- Toyota Introduced the 2024 Toyota Tacoma. The battled hardened V6 is gone, replaced by 2 new engines include the i-FORCE 2.4L turbo 4 cylinder making 278hp and the 2.4L turbo hybrid i-FORCE MAX making 326hp.
Chief Engineer Sheldon Brown also discusses the new TNGA-F frame, and available suspensions for the new Tacoma
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Once you put a load on that 4 banger you will get less mpg than the v6.
Doubtful but as people test these out we shall see
I'm loyal to Toyota but, I'm very skeptical about a turbo charged engine. I've had turbo charged cars before and they don't age well.
Stay away from turbos once they drop out warranty , it's going to be a very costly repair.
Man all this just makes me love my 2023 more
Good for you
The price increases on this truck from the previous generations are insane. Nissan frontier is the way better value now.
Actually, thats the dirrection I'm leaning after the first of the year, I can't stomach buying a TURDbo anything nor that insane price increase.
The problem with the Nissan is the lack of aftermarket support. So if you're looking to build it up for off-roading that's a issue if just for work and around town no problem.
then buy a 2023 tacoma , that simple@@vorant77
I don't care what this so-called, Chief engineer says the V6 engine has always been a very reliable engine, and will more than likely outlive that four cylinder turbo.
Don't buy one then bud
This is exactly why i bought my 2023 V6 Tacoma. Ive been in the automotive repair field for 30 years and i can tell you turbo or supercharged engines do not last as long as naturally aspirated engines. You add stress to the engines with power adders which shortens the life of that engine. The turbos are also a point of failure as well. Extreme heat and moving parts will fail eventually. You just cant beat naturally aspirated engines for longevity.
You're right but I wonder why Turbo-diesel can last forever but not Turbo-gas?
They are built completely different.
@@allenallen5005 Can't they build the turbo for gas the same way? I would kill to have the Hilux turbo engine in this new Tacoma! Of course, that will never happen because we live in the *greatest country on earth. Want the 35K Land Cruiser 70 series? Not here in the USA Jose! Want a Hilux? Move to Mexico. Or what about the nice-looking Nissan Navaro? There is no U in Navaro.
I had a 2008 wrx until 2016. Same clutch, never burnt oil, pulled like the first day I bought it, not garage kept. 205k miles when I sold it. They’ll last longer than most ppl keep their cars if designed correctly and maintained. Ppl start bumping boost and gunning off the line every damn light, no they won’t last. Thermodynamics takes over and things degrade quicker. These are trucks, not made for speed, they’ll be just fine.
@chrisx5127 diesel fuel is only 40 octane, and it's oil based. So they run cooler with more upper cylinder lube. Also, a diesel runs at lower rpm's.
So this is not a Japanese marvel of engineering anymore, given the chief engineer is American.
Exactly
The third generation truck was designed by a Kevin Hunter.
The problem is the market is being controlled by regulations and politicians.
It wasn’t really Japanese to begin with it being made in Mexico. Rather get a real Japanese made care with vin# J=Japan made 🇯🇵
americans have generally lower standards of what is acceptable. Just go to Japan and you'll see, even their "costco" is different.
My opinion with the turbo four-cylinder is more maintenance requirements then the V-6 or four-cylinder non-turbo engine bottom line I’ll keep my V6 manual taco before I buy a new turbo tacoma just saying CEO Toyota bowing down to the EPA bs just saying
Fr when they technically don't have to listen to the EPA until 2030.
may be not , if they implement the good coolant system , these engines are port injector engine / direct , so less carbon build .
@@MWAclanGaming it depends on the administration that’s running the country at the time but going green doesn’t mean better
@@irfanspace i’m worried about the turbo long term between 150 to 200,000 miles that’s when costly maintenance big repairs come in with turbo engines just saying
My four-cylinder aspirated engine is gonna last longer than that stupid turbo
I agree
Turbo 4s are awesome.
wont last long
Like all the models of old, time will be the deciding factor to see if Toyota made a good or bad decision! Personally, I'll be sticking with my 2016 for a long time!
I don't like engines with turbos. Turbos leak and the problem is once they drop out warranty, they are extremely expensive to repair. Most of the individuals on here commenting will never keep the vehicle longer than the manufacturers warranty anyways, they will of course be getting rid of it, at that point.
@@AmericaFirst069a new energy paradigm is coming. This is the transition phase out of gas vehicles.
@@scottishd0g87 Electric cars are not going to take over, Actually The demand has gone down quite significantly, I work as an automotive technician at a dealership, I know what I am talking about.
@@scottishd0g87 like my handles says FJB
@@AmericaFirst069It’s not up to the customer. Why have all manufacturers moved to turbos with less cylinders? Emissions fines. They keep raising the standards and automakers have to buy emissions credits. Between 2019 - 2021 Stellantis paid Tesla $2.4 billion for these credits. EV / low displacement turbos are coming purely for financial survival.
What a bummer Toyota has a winner in the V6 looks like I’ll be hanging onto my 2022 Tacoma for a long long time. Turbos suck!
Yeah, that's the idea, if you buy a Toyota to trade it every 2 or 3 years you're doing something wrong lol
Hes a carsoomer
I know but I cannot get a gen 3 manual in the color I want. I don't want Barcelona Red even at 2K under MSRP. I want Electric Lime (most), Solar Octane (not available on Off-road trim), and I will settle for Lunar Rock and white. I do not want Barcelona Red because it already on my dad's Camry.
@@chrisx5127 I got army green
Why not offer a V6 and a turbo 4 option and see which one sells more. My money is on the v6
Because they know consumers will shun the turbo so they aren't giving buyers a choice. Goodbye Toyota its been nice knowing ya...
1 word: regulation
The turbos will be the weak point in this: they WILL be going out at sometime and of course-----after the warranty is up. Toyota should offer an updated V6 option......
Oh great, makes me not want to buy one, I'll stick with the V6
Why don't these auto manufacturers just be honest. It has nothing to do with thinking a 4cyl turbo engine is superior to the 6- or 8-cylinder engines or that a 4cyl engine will get better MPG. It's about the restriction's the EPA put on manufacturers.
It’s definitely regulation. They should get around 10% better economy and there is way way more torque. In real world driving, these are fairly quick.
I heard there is a tax in Europe penalizing larger displacement, plus the emissions and fuel economy standards. Toyota is and will continue to suffer from limited EV options. But hey, at least we finally got rest disc brakes, huh? 🤔
I don’t even really care about the mpg, I want my vehicles to go 200k plus and never have to go to the shop and be on a first name basis with the service rep
I really like Sheldon. Love the way he presents the Toyota Tacoma in videos.
so cool, cant wait for 15 years in the future to see people put these engines in 86's and brz's ☠️☠️☠️
It's a pretty punchy engine with a lot of torque. I bet we'll a 86 swap in the not too distant future.
When my 2nd gen Tacoma motor pops, I’m seriously debating on swapping in this new engine. By then all of the bugs will be worked out.😂
No mention of direct injection impact on engine longevity. So long million mile potential, hello 100k engines.
How does direct injection impact longevity? If you're worried about carbon buildup this has both port and direct injection to clean up the valves, other than that gdi has not much impact on longevity
You know what they say when you ASSume?
Yes you are right! Turbo V6 Tundra engine is done!
I just want a simple, basic, tough, capable, rig that has a comfy seat, AC, 4WD, and a cup holder for me long drives. Bring back Basic trucks, it should never cost near what the luxury vehicles cost.
The 4x2 Taco starts at around $33K. SR XtraCab 4x4 is $36K including $1500 destination fee.
just got one of the last brand new v6 2023 sr5s. I'll be hanging on to this one for a while....
Nissan kept a naturally aspirated engine and the rear doors to its smaller cab. And didnt share a frame with a fricken Titan.
Time will tell with "long term corrosion protection " First gen had boxed frame and started the tradition of accelerated impermanence , 2nd & 3rd gen had C channel and rusted just as fast. Now back to "thinner boxed & C channel. I am tired of the mandatory fluid film ritual, and at these prices it should not be required, even in Saltshitistan.
Everything is good for the 2024 Tacoma but people don’t know is the 4 cylinder turbo needs lots of care and maintenance in order to last longer ! Or else !😂😂😂😂😂😂
Is the 2.4l turbo have cast iron sleeves like on the old school 2.7l i-line 4? If not, then the 2.7l old school would have been better engine for turbos?
Should have kept the V-8 and V-6. If I’m buying a truck I’m not worried about saving 3mpg and losing a V-8
Box frame is a Rust Bucket in the making. Nissan tried it and owned one. The box frame rusted out. I had to basically give it away. The rest of the truck was still in great shape. Crap gets in and can't get out.
Get a ridgeline. Rides better, more comfortable, full-time all wheel drive and tows enough for most folks. Has a v6....
I have a good friend that has a 2012 tacoma with the 2.7 engine. A few years back. He used the tacoma with a snowplow on it for couple of winters, and it started buring oil like crazy.
After engine tear down by a master toyota tech, it was found the the cylinder walls had severe wear, and the engine had to be replaced.
The engine was over stressed.
Point is what do they think is going to happen to the 24' tacoma, when the little 2.4 turbo is stressed. Its going to damage the engine.
I keep seeing silly comments of folks saying , oh just get rid of them before the warranty runs out. LoL
The whole reason i purchase toyota tacomas is for the years and years of reliability.
If you trade ever 2-3 years you never own a vehicle. You should just lease the truck if you trade that much.
My oldest tacoma is 25 y/o.
My newest is 2015.
I wont be buying a new tacoma
I think I'll keep my 3rd gen for a long time.
Same reason I'm keeping my lo-mi 2nd gen.
Love the 2nd and 3rd gen tacoma 👍
@@robrichdale114 I just wish we (in the USA) could get the TRD/OR package in the 3rd gen with the Access cab & manual in the USA.
I really wish the 3rd gen had rear disc brakes. But according to the Toyota engineers we didn't need them. And yet the 4 runner had rear disc.
@@robrichdale114 Agreed. However, it still stops pretty good with the 4-pot calipers up front.
Pros - Exterior design looks nice, Cons - All digital gauges, , 4cyl turbo/ hybrid 8sp transmission will be less reliable and expensive for (Long term) users. I honestly feel Toyota is jumping on the band wagon for cheap thrills tech for the new generation of drivers and the new era of disposal vehicle's where nothing last for 10yrs now which is sad because they were the pioneers for long lasting reliable cars. People also need to be more vocal on car channels to be pushing back on things we don't want or we will be having crap going forward. The manufactures do look at comments to see what people think, for how much vehicle's cost now we do not need them telling us what we think we would like versus what we want.
The 8 speed is an old transmission that toyota/lexus has had for the past 20yrs, they should have put their 10 speed in it for better mileage and smoother/faster shifts.
@@MWAclanGaming the 10 speed in commute focused vehicles is utterly dumb, and has proven to be the least reliable new move ford and chevy decided to go to, as much as i hate toyota and it's overuse of cheap plastic and plastic like ride qualities, they clearly know which transmissions will serve the "reliable" role best. the ten speed still has way too many issues, it's simply just way too many gears for what manufactures are pairing them to, which is most commonly in the stupid 3-4 cyclinder turbo charged engines, more gears more problems. i will say though 8 speeds have become the new 6 speeds of today though. depends which manufacture tho. Dodge has nearly perfected a bulletproof 8speed automatic though so who knows, it's a matter of time, just isn't logical for the general application manufacturers are doing as of late...
Im gonna keep my second gen till it breaks
The turbo engines are reinforced usually, and the electronic gauges are way more reliable than analog, kore precise and would last years, cars from 2014 are still running great with their electronic gauges.
What makes you think everyone else feels the same as you do?
Somewhat on topic, does anyone know if the new Terra color is exclusive to the TRD Pro? Thanks.
Yes, but it will be available for all TRD trim a year later. But for this year, it only on the Pro. You have a two window period to get the color you want. Though some Pro colors do come back. This is how Gen 3 work, but no information for Gen 4 yet so take my comment with a grain of salt.
His hands are tied by the EPA.. government.. he can’t really tell you the “real truth” about this new engine. The rest of the truck is pretty much the same. This is a truck after-all and all trucks are heavy and get lousy mpg.. that’s just the way it is.
Nixon started the EPA and it's become way too controlling.
Turbo charged engines just simply will not last as long as naturally aspirated engines. Shame on Toyota for caving to this climate 🐂💩 and compromising the longevity of their vehicles.
I don’t know did you notice the cv angles on the front of the new chassis the angle is way better on the old one?
Wonder if the boxed frame will help these frames from not rusting out like all the other gen’s
That’s what I was wondering. I saw a few holes so moisture and debris and salt will enter. I see a recall at about 5 years in northern zones just like the previous models.
@@blauer2551thanks was thinking about the same (Holes in the frame lol )
Will be interesting to see if regular towing at or near the max will have a negative impact.
Time will tell. Toyota has spent a lot of time building their reputation for reliability. Maybe wait 1-2 years before purchase so they can sort out any early issues.
Don’t worry Toyota will probably add sound to your speakers like the Tundra
I don't remember any augmented sound on the drive, but it's been a few months.
I see that the cat is deep In there, is there gonna be a need for a cat shield for the 2.4 turbo engine?
My 2015 Frontier has boxed frame. In fact the Frontier has always had a boxed frame.
Is the engine block a closed or open deck design?
same as Chevy telling everyone their new turbo4 Colorado engine will be more reliable than the old V6 long term.(don't believe it). Can one company admit they would prefer to make a V6 but due to EPA requirements they didn't.
Got one of the last 23 V6 and glad I did.
He left out the part where it gets a lot easier to pull a blown 4 cylinder with this new layout especially after putting a turbo on it. I have always had Toyotas but with the new turbo 4's they still need a lot of work. Especially for the price they are asking for these things, Toyota has to either bring back the V6 or extend the Warranty or build bigger lot's for the 24's to sit on until they do.
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I hope toyota brings back the V6
Wow Thanks for This Vídeo For Toyota
I think Honda Ridgeline V6 is better buy
But Ridgeline aren't off-road truck. The whole point of a Tacoma for me is off-roading.
PASS
What is the RELIABILITY and FUEL ECONOMY of these engines??
No one knows reliability except Toyota, but everyone knows they stake their reputation on it. MPG is about 15% better vs the V6, and varies according to configuration
@@revmatchtv Turbo 4cylinder engines of these new models will not have the longevity...we shall see, I have the 1985 Toyota 4runner/Hilux SR5 5 speed with the 22re... ( no rust) and is geared for 35's and gets 22 mpg using PURE gasoline, not E10 type of fuel... has 288,000 miles on it and burns no oil and no leaks whatsoever. Regular 10-30wt oil changes and Denso spark plugs from Japan. no after market parts.
I’m a loyal Toyota buyer, How can this new over worked 4 cylinder engine go 200k plus? I don’t think so. I buy Toyota because of the 200k plus longevity, Any proof that this new engine will do that? I don’t see it happening
The Tundra engine is a direct fit in this new chassis so if the Turbo 4 doesn’t see good adoption numbers Toyota could stick a detuned 3.4V6 Turbo in there ..
They have a 2024 concept Tacoma called the X Runner that has the Tundras V6
V6 engine has been a reliable engine, wasn't hard to change transmission and only add hybrid ?
The Tundra has a V6 hybrid, but the Tacoma is a lower priced truck, hence 2.5L only.
The V6 is gone and so am I would never get a truck with a 4-cylinder engine ever you can put all the turbos in the world on it and it is still a 4-cylinder engine and $50 thousand for a truck with a 4-cylinder engine no thanks I can't believe Toyota jumped on the 4-cylinder band wagon. I will never get a truck from them ever again if they dont put the V6 back in the Tacoma? So, it gets a little better gas mileage, but I hear they put a smaller gas tank in it so much for better gas mileage the rear disk brakes are nice, but I have a Tacoma 2005 V6 4x4 and it should have had rear disk brakes too but no very sad about this move to the 4-cylinder I will keep my 2005 Tacoma with a V6 in it and 4x4 and no rear disk brakes :( sad days for us Tacoma drivers
I’d like to see a v6 towing a boat and just rolling at idle ish vs a 4 cylinder turbo revving high to get the same power output.
So long, engine longevity...😠
Toyota quality is done
Hopefully the turbo is water cooled and people are sensible enough to use a 5W 30 or an extremely hot climate to 5W 40 and change it every 5000 miles or sooner
Does the new Tacoma have stop and go technology?
Fully boxed frame for toyota job security. Nice.
Bring back the v6! Stupid 4 banger turbo! I love my 2016 manual v6.
Love the truck but not towing with a 4 cyl turbo
This is the same guy that defended rear drum brakes saying how they were better than discs. Yeah right we'll believe you dude!
Does this make my 2007 Tacoma 82k miles more valuable now?
I knew the tacoma looked to western for my taste...
It's all about reability! If the new engine does not live to it, Toyota is in trouble.
I can't wait for GenZ'rs to put cat backs on a 4cyl....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
A truck without leaf springs its not a truck. That rear suspension looks weak especially dealing with salt in northern states.
Who made the headline for this video. It says it's going to explain the new engine. The video is not about the engine(s) at all. It's about the frame and suspension. C'mon you guys, get your act together.
No matter how they’re trying to make this new Tacoma Turbo looks good, but, it’s not as same as old V6. I always had Tacoma. I was waiting to get the 2024 model but, totally changed my mined. I don’t think many people will go for this screwed up model. It’s not gonna be the best sellers anymore.
Engine downsizing has been a trend for 40+ years now. Global regulation is the driver. I do predict it will sell well though.
@@revmatchtv good luck, I’m not the one buying it. My V6 2006 Tacoma still going fine after 280,000.00 miles.
Will see how durable is your ENGINEERED design. I guess get he extender warranty for this turbo 2.4L with a rubber belt and not a chain. More maintenance cost, lucky mechanical shops to get more income from repairs…
Toyota Tacoma is doomed. We all know 4 cylinder turbo sukx, inside of a truck. This truck is now best used for pickup up compose and wood chips at home depot.
Thats y Nissan is better now!! My Titan pro-4x 5.6 V8 will outlast any Toyota!!
4 banger with turbos hybrid nothing but issues
Toyota wants to sell new vehicles. Making reliable, long lasting vehicles is against their “new business model”.
Toyota wants to sell new vehicles every 5 years or less to each consumer.
the toyota's dealers department are ruining the brand horrible to deal whit
4 cylinder turbo engine
Turbos are a bad move for the longevity of the vehicle not why I buy a Toyota.
A 4 banger👎
FACTS!! 4 CYL WAS A HORRIBLE CALL! MORE PARTS, MORE HEAT AND MORE STRESS AND YES MORE MONEY!! MY 2023 IS WORTH IT'S WEIGHT IN GOLD!! NO ONE WITH ANY BRAINS WOULD BUY A 4 CYL AND NOT FOR THE PRICES THEY ARE CHARGING!! TOYOTA HAS LOST IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SAD DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Turbo engines fail with less mileage period
This tech focused Tacoma is all flare and designed by Americans for dumb Americans that prioritize aesthetics over functionality and longevity. Just like I was afraid of. I’ll keep my 3rd Gen.
Just give me a IMV 0...
Bro why did he say compact instead of mid-size at 1:52… there hasn’t been a compact from Toyota in NA in decades. The Tacoma has the best selling midsize in America for years. Why would he say compact and not mid-size when talking about the Tacoma… I think this is a Freudian slip and he accidentally revealed a new compact concept based on TNGA-F platform and not a compact on the TNGA-K (RAV4) platform as is being hypothesized online
I fully expect Toyota to release a compact truck to go up against the Maverick within 2 years.
The frame v6 putting on 2.4 liter it’s week even have turbos it’s heavier they should make smaller Tacoma like in 2002 they have the v6 and regular 4 cylinder frame is smaller now no good I’ll keep my old taco and my v6 aight buying the new Tacoma 👎
No V6, no thanks
You weren’t going to buy one anyway and if your serious about a v6 Nissan frontier has a truck for you but I know your just a tire kicker and not going to buy anything
@@ateeqafzal4444 okay, keyboard warrior lol
@@dividendfire855 if you sleep better at night with that comeback and then i guess still doesn’t change the fact of what I said earlier
@@ateeqafzal4444 sure princess, w/e you say.
Great thinner frame, my kids TJ frame is rotten, full of mud which hold moisture. Open frames are better for off roading salty roads.
That guy needs to sit down and talk. He is so out of breathe, its unreal.
Top toyota engineer... Really.
He should get out of the office and a/c more often. Fast food is dragging him down
I smell BS from Toyota a mile away because Toyota brought the 2024 Toyota Tacoma X Runner " Concept " to SEMA 2023 and the LA Auto Show. Now, Toyota brought out the 2024 Toyota Tacoma X Runner " Concept " at the 2023 SEMA Auto Show in Vegas but, the same engineer said, " We putted a V6 Toyota Tundra's engine in the 2024 Toyota Tacoma. The Toyota engineer made for the 2024 Toyota Tacoma can carry a V6 from the Toyota Tundra's in the 2024 Toyota Tacoma. Soon or later Toyota will or would bringing back the V6 on the 2024 Toyota Tacoma when the US President changing hand this year. I know what you saying, " It's only a concept and they never putting it into production ".
As for that Toyota engineer, I hope his will power is no indication of his brain power. Sayin.
That engineer should be fired immediately. Toyota motor corporation if you’re listening BRING BACK THE V-8 AND THE V-6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I dont trust an engineer that calls an engine a "motor", sorry, Toyota, you can do better, attention to details.
Sorry Toyota i still daily my 86 4*4 22r please make my old truck again all manual and locking hubs . I wan my old truck new..
Fancy junk
Century later we have rear discs. Lol. Turbos are inherently higher maintenance. No EV option? 🤔
Mild hybrid option coming in 2024
He speaks as if wear and tear were imaginary constructs. Twin Turbos are by definition, not efficient. Coupled with a smaller engine togther will spell absolute disaster. This is truly the end of Toyota reliability and logenvity.
Mr swears did a better job with the gen 3
1st here
boom!
Absolute garbage. I have a 2010 Tacoma zero problems my buddy has 2024 was in the shop 3 times already . His turbo had to be replaced already 😂😂😂
Frankenstein? Never heard Toyota pull a word from Chrysler. Last time a car company Frankenstein a vehicle together, it was total garbage