This is exactly why i bought my 2023 V6 Tacoma. Ive been in the automotive repair field for 30 years and i can tell you turbo or supercharged engines do not last as long as naturally aspirated engines. You add stress to the engines with power adders which shortens the life of that engine. The turbos are also a point of failure as well. Extreme heat and moving parts will fail eventually. You just cant beat naturally aspirated engines for longevity.
@@allenallen5005 Can't they build the turbo for gas the same way? I would kill to have the Hilux turbo engine in this new Tacoma! Of course, that will never happen because we live in the *greatest country on earth. Want the 35K Land Cruiser 70 series? Not here in the USA Jose! Want a Hilux? Move to Mexico. Or what about the nice-looking Nissan Navaro? There is no U in Navaro.
@qbanlink25 there's a woman on UA-cam that wanted to show how much better the mileage was in her 2024 Tacoma. Her numbers were the same as I get out of my 2022 Tacoma, and I don't have that lip in the front.
Like all the models of old, time will be the deciding factor to see if Toyota made a good or bad decision! Personally, I'll be sticking with my 2016 for a long time!
I don't like engines with turbos. Turbos leak and the problem is once they drop out warranty, they are extremely expensive to repair. Most of the individuals on here commenting will never keep the vehicle longer than the manufacturers warranty anyways, they will of course be getting rid of it, at that point.
@scottishd0g87 Electric cars are not going to take over, Actually The demand has gone down quite significantly, I work as an automotive technician at a dealership, I know what I am talking about.
@@GrumpyMonkey69It’s not up to the customer. Why have all manufacturers moved to turbos with less cylinders? Emissions fines. They keep raising the standards and automakers have to buy emissions credits. Between 2019 - 2021 Stellantis paid Tesla $2.4 billion for these credits. EV / low displacement turbos are coming purely for financial survival.
I don't care what this so-called, Chief engineer says the V6 engine has always been a very reliable engine, and will more than likely outlive that four cylinder turbo.
I’m a loyal Toyota buyer, How can this new over worked 4 cylinder engine go 200k plus? I don’t think so. I buy Toyota because of the 200k plus longevity, Any proof that this new engine will do that? I don’t see it happening
My opinion with the turbo four-cylinder is more maintenance requirements then the V-6 or four-cylinder non-turbo engine bottom line I’ll keep my V6 manual taco before I buy a new turbo tacoma just saying CEO Toyota bowing down to the EPA bs just saying
@@irfanspace i’m worried about the turbo long term between 150 to 200,000 miles that’s when costly maintenance big repairs come in with turbo engines just saying
The problem with the Nissan is the lack of aftermarket support. So if you're looking to build it up for off-roading that's a issue if just for work and around town no problem.
I know but I cannot get a gen 3 manual in the color I want. I don't want Barcelona Red even at 2K under MSRP. I want Electric Lime (most), Solar Octane (not available on Off-road trim), and I will settle for Lunar Rock and white. I do not want Barcelona Red because it already on my dad's Camry.
The turbos will be the weak point in this: they WILL be going out at sometime and of course-----after the warranty is up. Toyota should offer an updated V6 option......
Pros - Exterior design looks nice, Cons - All digital gauges, , 4cyl turbo/ hybrid 8sp transmission will be less reliable and expensive for (Long term) users. I honestly feel Toyota is jumping on the band wagon for cheap thrills tech for the new generation of drivers and the new era of disposal vehicle's where nothing last for 10yrs now which is sad because they were the pioneers for long lasting reliable cars. People also need to be more vocal on car channels to be pushing back on things we don't want or we will be having crap going forward. The manufactures do look at comments to see what people think, for how much vehicle's cost now we do not need them telling us what we think we would like versus what we want.
The 8 speed is an old transmission that toyota/lexus has had for the past 20yrs, they should have put their 10 speed in it for better mileage and smoother/faster shifts.
@@MWAclanGaming the 10 speed in commute focused vehicles is utterly dumb, and has proven to be the least reliable new move ford and chevy decided to go to, as much as i hate toyota and it's overuse of cheap plastic and plastic like ride qualities, they clearly know which transmissions will serve the "reliable" role best. the ten speed still has way too many issues, it's simply just way too many gears for what manufactures are pairing them to, which is most commonly in the stupid 3-4 cyclinder turbo charged engines, more gears more problems. i will say though 8 speeds have become the new 6 speeds of today though. depends which manufacture tho. Dodge has nearly perfected a bulletproof 8speed automatic though so who knows, it's a matter of time, just isn't logical for the general application manufacturers are doing as of late...
The turbo engines are reinforced usually, and the electronic gauges are way more reliable than analog, kore precise and would last years, cars from 2014 are still running great with their electronic gauges.
Box frame is a Rust Bucket in the making. Nissan tried it and owned one. The box frame rusted out. I had to basically give it away. The rest of the truck was still in great shape. Crap gets in and can't get out.
How do you stop moisture from collecting and pooling inside the box frame and rusting out? That’s what typically happens in the box frame design, and the reason why they went to the open design.
How does direct injection impact longevity? If you're worried about carbon buildup this has both port and direct injection to clean up the valves, other than that gdi has not much impact on longevity
I wonder if the suspension upgrade kit in the off road is all the same components as the pro. The front looks the same . Not sure about the fox shocks though.
That’s what I was wondering. I saw a few holes so moisture and debris and salt will enter. I see a recall at about 5 years in northern zones just like the previous models.
Interesting frame discussion. More openness and transparency about the weight increase to provide a more corrosion resistant and stiff frame would have been appropriate. And most important a close section in a truck frame is infinitely superior to an open section and one need not apologize or deflect for making this design choice.
His hands are tied by the EPA.. government.. he can’t really tell you the “real truth” about this new engine. The rest of the truck is pretty much the same. This is a truck after-all and all trucks are heavy and get lousy mpg.. that’s just the way it is.
Time will tell. Toyota has spent a lot of time building their reputation for reliability. Maybe wait 1-2 years before purchase so they can sort out any early issues.
Why don't these auto manufacturers just be honest. It has nothing to do with thinking a 4cyl turbo engine is superior to the 6- or 8-cylinder engines or that a 4cyl engine will get better MPG. It's about the restriction's the EPA put on manufacturers.
I heard there is a tax in Europe penalizing larger displacement, plus the emissions and fuel economy standards. Toyota is and will continue to suffer from limited EV options. But hey, at least we finally got rest disc brakes, huh? 🤔
I don’t even really care about the mpg, I want my vehicles to go 200k plus and never have to go to the shop and be on a first name basis with the service rep
Turbo charged engines just simply will not last as long as naturally aspirated engines. Shame on Toyota for caving to this climate 🐂💩 and compromising the longevity of their vehicles.
Time will tell with "long term corrosion protection " First gen had boxed frame and started the tradition of accelerated impermanence , 2nd & 3rd gen had C channel and rusted just as fast. Now back to "thinner boxed & C channel. I am tired of the mandatory fluid film ritual, and at these prices it should not be required, even in Saltshitistan.
He left out the part where it gets a lot easier to pull a blown 4 cylinder with this new layout especially after putting a turbo on it. I have always had Toyotas but with the new turbo 4's they still need a lot of work. Especially for the price they are asking for these things, Toyota has to either bring back the V6 or extend the Warranty or build bigger lot's for the 24's to sit on until they do.
The V6 is gone and so am I would never get a truck with a 4-cylinder engine ever you can put all the turbos in the world on it and it is still a 4-cylinder engine and $50 thousand for a truck with a 4-cylinder engine no thanks I can't believe Toyota jumped on the 4-cylinder band wagon. I will never get a truck from them ever again if they dont put the V6 back in the Tacoma? So, it gets a little better gas mileage, but I hear they put a smaller gas tank in it so much for better gas mileage the rear disk brakes are nice, but I have a Tacoma 2005 V6 4x4 and it should have had rear disk brakes too but no very sad about this move to the 4-cylinder I will keep my 2005 Tacoma with a V6 in it and 4x4 and no rear disk brakes :( sad days for us Tacoma drivers
Everything is good for the 2024 Tacoma but people don’t know is the 4 cylinder turbo needs lots of care and maintenance in order to last longer ! Or else !😂😂😂😂😂😂
I have a good friend that has a 2012 tacoma with the 2.7 engine. A few years back. He used the tacoma with a snowplow on it for couple of winters, and it started buring oil like crazy. After engine tear down by a master toyota tech, it was found the the cylinder walls had severe wear, and the engine had to be replaced. The engine was over stressed. Point is what do they think is going to happen to the 24' tacoma, when the little 2.4 turbo is stressed. Its going to damage the engine. I keep seeing silly comments of folks saying , oh just get rid of them before the warranty runs out. LoL The whole reason i purchase toyota tacomas is for the years and years of reliability. If you trade ever 2-3 years you never own a vehicle. You should just lease the truck if you trade that much. My oldest tacoma is 25 y/o. My newest is 2015. I wont be buying a new tacoma
Interesting frame discussion. More openness and transparency about the weight increase to provide a more corrosion resistant and stiff frame would have been appropriate. And most important a closed section in a truck frame is infinitely superior to an open section and one need not apologize or deflect for making this design choice. Just come out and say how much heavier the truck frame is. At the end of the day it’s the total of power to weight ratio that determines the responsiveness and performance of the vehicle under acceleration and it’s fuel economy..
The Tundra engine is a direct fit in this new chassis so if the Turbo 4 doesn’t see good adoption numbers Toyota could stick a detuned 3.4V6 Turbo in there ..
I’ve been driving Toyotas since 1988 . I quit buying them in 2021 . I’m driving a 2019 Titan and absolutely Love it . I know I can put 300,000 trouble free miles on it Like my 2007 Tundra has it .
No one knows reliability except Toyota, but everyone knows they stake their reputation on it. MPG is about 15% better vs the V6, and varies according to configuration
@@revmatchtv Turbo 4cylinder engines of these new models will not have the longevity...we shall see, I have the 1985 Toyota 4runner/Hilux SR5 5 speed with the 22re... ( no rust) and is geared for 35's and gets 22 mpg using PURE gasoline, not E10 type of fuel... has 288,000 miles on it and burns no oil and no leaks whatsoever. Regular 10-30wt oil changes and Denso spark plugs from Japan. no after market parts.
Yes, but it will be available for all TRD trim a year later. But for this year, it only on the Pro. You have a two window period to get the color you want. Though some Pro colors do come back. This is how Gen 3 work, but no information for Gen 4 yet so take my comment with a grain of salt.
Why make the tune in the SR 228 HP for the AT and 270 HP for the MT, and everything else is 270 HP and up. So only the SR AT is 228 HP and it’s just a tune.
same as Chevy telling everyone their new turbo4 Colorado engine will be more reliable than the old V6 long term.(don't believe it). Can one company admit they would prefer to make a V6 but due to EPA requirements they didn't.
24 fps is a specific choice. 60 fps does not look natural to me. I prefer high frame rates for sports, but not for people talking and moving slowly, but I appreciate your input.
Hopefully the turbo is water cooled and people are sensible enough to use a 5W 30 or an extremely hot climate to 5W 40 and change it every 5000 miles or sooner
I owned Toyotas for over twenty years with Tacoma, Tundra and Corolla and they did very well but not perfect. When I complained to Toyota Corp. they used to be responsive but the last few years they didn't care about the customer. They have gotten very arogant and I don't know why since the advent of the frame issues, engines issues etc. I looked at the 2024 Tacomas and did not like the new 4 cyl turbo. I looked at all the other midrange pickups and ended up with a Honda Ridgeline with a V6 and two FOBs unlike my 2024 Lexus with only one FOB. I have a four year warranty on the Lexus but when that is up I am done with Toyota. So far I am very happy with my Honda Ridgeline and I don't tow and if I did I would not buy a Tacoma I would get a Tundra to tow anything of any size. IMHO.
No matter how they’re trying to make this new Tacoma Turbo looks good, but, it’s not as same as old V6. I always had Tacoma. I was waiting to get the 2024 model but, totally changed my mined. I don’t think many people will go for this screwed up model. It’s not gonna be the best sellers anymore.
More complex engine design, more heat, higher pressures, more moving parts, more hoses equals less reliability, less durability and higher cost of ownership.
I just want a simple, basic, tough, capable, rig that has a comfy seat, AC, 4WD, and a cup holder for me long drives. Bring back Basic trucks, it should never cost near what the luxury vehicles cost.
You weren’t going to buy one anyway and if your serious about a v6 Nissan frontier has a truck for you but I know your just a tire kicker and not going to buy anything
I hope you Engineers designed this thing with maintenance in mind and extra parts! Not so much for the consumer, but for the dealerships! These trucks will be breaking down and falling to pieces by the thousands.
Toyota Tacoma is doomed. We all know 4 cylinder turbo sukx, inside of a truck. This truck is now best used for pickup up compose and wood chips at home depot.
Bro why did he say compact instead of mid-size at 1:52… there hasn’t been a compact from Toyota in NA in decades. The Tacoma has the best selling midsize in America for years. Why would he say compact and not mid-size when talking about the Tacoma… I think this is a Freudian slip and he accidentally revealed a new compact concept based on TNGA-F platform and not a compact on the TNGA-K (RAV4) platform as is being hypothesized online
Will see how durable is your ENGINEERED design. I guess get he extender warranty for this turbo 2.4L with a rubber belt and not a chain. More maintenance cost, lucky mechanical shops to get more income from repairs…
Who made the headline for this video. It says it's going to explain the new engine. The video is not about the engine(s) at all. It's about the frame and suspension. C'mon you guys, get your act together.
FACTS!! 4 CYL WAS A HORRIBLE CALL! MORE PARTS, MORE HEAT AND MORE STRESS AND YES MORE MONEY!! MY 2023 IS WORTH IT'S WEIGHT IN GOLD!! NO ONE WITH ANY BRAINS WOULD BUY A 4 CYL AND NOT FOR THE PRICES THEY ARE CHARGING!! TOYOTA HAS LOST IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SAD DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I smell BS from Toyota a mile away because Toyota brought the 2024 Toyota Tacoma X Runner " Concept " to SEMA 2023 and the LA Auto Show. Now, Toyota brought out the 2024 Toyota Tacoma X Runner " Concept " at the 2023 SEMA Auto Show in Vegas but, the same engineer said, " We putted a V6 Toyota Tundra's engine in the 2024 Toyota Tacoma. The Toyota engineer made for the 2024 Toyota Tacoma can carry a V6 from the Toyota Tundra's in the 2024 Toyota Tacoma. Soon or later Toyota will or would bringing back the V6 on the 2024 Toyota Tacoma when the US President changing hand this year. I know what you saying, " It's only a concept and they never putting it into production ".
Man all this just makes me love my 2023 more
Good for you
Whatever helps you sleep at night
This is exactly why i bought my 2023 V6 Tacoma. Ive been in the automotive repair field for 30 years and i can tell you turbo or supercharged engines do not last as long as naturally aspirated engines. You add stress to the engines with power adders which shortens the life of that engine. The turbos are also a point of failure as well. Extreme heat and moving parts will fail eventually. You just cant beat naturally aspirated engines for longevity.
You're right but I wonder why Turbo-diesel can last forever but not Turbo-gas?
They are built completely different.
@@allenallen5005 Can't they build the turbo for gas the same way? I would kill to have the Hilux turbo engine in this new Tacoma! Of course, that will never happen because we live in the *greatest country on earth. Want the 35K Land Cruiser 70 series? Not here in the USA Jose! Want a Hilux? Move to Mexico. Or what about the nice-looking Nissan Navaro? There is no U in Navaro.
@chrisx5127 diesel fuel is only 40 octane, and it's oil based. So they run cooler with more upper cylinder lube. Also, a diesel runs at lower rpm's.
@@robrichdale114Diesel is rated “cetane” not “octane”
Once you put a load on that 4 banger you will get less mpg than the v6.
Doubtful but as people test these out we shall see
@qbanlink25 there's a woman on UA-cam that wanted to show how much better the mileage was in her 2024 Tacoma. Her numbers were the same as I get out of my 2022 Tacoma, and I don't have that lip in the front.
@@doom4067 I'm sure she drives like a grandma if she got better mpg....
MPG is not priority here at all
The most important thing is emissions reduction to be compliance with govs regulations
Like all the models of old, time will be the deciding factor to see if Toyota made a good or bad decision! Personally, I'll be sticking with my 2016 for a long time!
I don't like engines with turbos. Turbos leak and the problem is once they drop out warranty, they are extremely expensive to repair. Most of the individuals on here commenting will never keep the vehicle longer than the manufacturers warranty anyways, they will of course be getting rid of it, at that point.
@scottishd0g87 Electric cars are not going to take over, Actually The demand has gone down quite significantly, I work as an automotive technician at a dealership, I know what I am talking about.
@scottishd0g87 like my handles says FJB
@@GrumpyMonkey69It’s not up to the customer. Why have all manufacturers moved to turbos with less cylinders? Emissions fines. They keep raising the standards and automakers have to buy emissions credits. Between 2019 - 2021 Stellantis paid Tesla $2.4 billion for these credits. EV / low displacement turbos are coming purely for financial survival.
@@Lq32332 Go ahead and enjoy your turbo crap, And by the way, when it drops out of warranty I guarantee you, that you don't have the money to fix it.
I don't care what this so-called, Chief engineer says the V6 engine has always been a very reliable engine, and will more than likely outlive that four cylinder turbo.
Don't buy one then bud
The 3.5 had more issues their first 3 years than the T24A. Timing cover leak and head gasket leaks.
@@qbanlink25In case you've been stuck in a cave, nobody is.
@@lokkstarproductions6918I'll take the timing cover leak over the turbo 4s self grenade feature any day.
@ lol stupidity at it’s finest. Sure bud stay afraid better deal for us.
I’m a loyal Toyota buyer, How can this new over worked 4 cylinder engine go 200k plus? I don’t think so. I buy Toyota because of the 200k plus longevity, Any proof that this new engine will do that? I don’t see it happening
My opinion with the turbo four-cylinder is more maintenance requirements then the V-6 or four-cylinder non-turbo engine bottom line I’ll keep my V6 manual taco before I buy a new turbo tacoma just saying CEO Toyota bowing down to the EPA bs just saying
Fr when they technically don't have to listen to the EPA until 2030.
may be not , if they implement the good coolant system , these engines are port injector engine / direct , so less carbon build .
@@MWAclanGaming it depends on the administration that’s running the country at the time but going green doesn’t mean better
@@irfanspace i’m worried about the turbo long term between 150 to 200,000 miles that’s when costly maintenance big repairs come in with turbo engines just saying
Why not offer a V6 and a turbo 4 option and see which one sells more. My money is on the v6
Because they know consumers will shun the turbo so they aren't giving buyers a choice. Goodbye Toyota its been nice knowing ya...
1 word: regulation
Because they wouldn't have to charge the customer the design costs for the V6.
The price increases on this truck from the previous generations are insane. Nissan frontier is the way better value now.
Actually, thats the dirrection I'm leaning after the first of the year, I can't stomach buying a TURDbo anything nor that insane price increase.
The problem with the Nissan is the lack of aftermarket support. So if you're looking to build it up for off-roading that's a issue if just for work and around town no problem.
then buy a 2023 tacoma , that simple@@vorant77
What a bummer Toyota has a winner in the V6 looks like I’ll be hanging onto my 2022 Tacoma for a long long time. Turbos suck!
Yeah, that's the idea, if you buy a Toyota to trade it every 2 or 3 years you're doing something wrong lol
Hes a carsoomer
I know but I cannot get a gen 3 manual in the color I want. I don't want Barcelona Red even at 2K under MSRP. I want Electric Lime (most), Solar Octane (not available on Off-road trim), and I will settle for Lunar Rock and white. I do not want Barcelona Red because it already on my dad's Camry.
@@chrisx5127 I got army green
So this is not a Japanese marvel of engineering anymore, given the chief engineer is American.
Exactly
The third generation truck was designed by a Kevin Hunter.
The problem is the market is being controlled by regulations and politicians.
It wasn’t really Japanese to begin with it being made in Mexico. Rather get a real Japanese made care with vin# J=Japan made 🇯🇵
americans have generally lower standards of what is acceptable. Just go to Japan and you'll see, even their "costco" is different.
just got one of the last brand new v6 2023 sr5s. I'll be hanging on to this one for a while....
My four-cylinder aspirated engine is gonna last longer than that stupid turbo
I agree
Turbo 4s are awesome.
wont last long
Great job Sheldon! Just purchased my 2nd Taco 2024 and owned 2 Hilux trucks back in the day!
The turbos will be the weak point in this: they WILL be going out at sometime and of course-----after the warranty is up. Toyota should offer an updated V6 option......
Pros - Exterior design looks nice, Cons - All digital gauges, , 4cyl turbo/ hybrid 8sp transmission will be less reliable and expensive for (Long term) users. I honestly feel Toyota is jumping on the band wagon for cheap thrills tech for the new generation of drivers and the new era of disposal vehicle's where nothing last for 10yrs now which is sad because they were the pioneers for long lasting reliable cars. People also need to be more vocal on car channels to be pushing back on things we don't want or we will be having crap going forward. The manufactures do look at comments to see what people think, for how much vehicle's cost now we do not need them telling us what we think we would like versus what we want.
The 8 speed is an old transmission that toyota/lexus has had for the past 20yrs, they should have put their 10 speed in it for better mileage and smoother/faster shifts.
@@MWAclanGaming the 10 speed in commute focused vehicles is utterly dumb, and has proven to be the least reliable new move ford and chevy decided to go to, as much as i hate toyota and it's overuse of cheap plastic and plastic like ride qualities, they clearly know which transmissions will serve the "reliable" role best. the ten speed still has way too many issues, it's simply just way too many gears for what manufactures are pairing them to, which is most commonly in the stupid 3-4 cyclinder turbo charged engines, more gears more problems. i will say though 8 speeds have become the new 6 speeds of today though. depends which manufacture tho. Dodge has nearly perfected a bulletproof 8speed automatic though so who knows, it's a matter of time, just isn't logical for the general application manufacturers are doing as of late...
Im gonna keep my second gen till it breaks
The turbo engines are reinforced usually, and the electronic gauges are way more reliable than analog, kore precise and would last years, cars from 2014 are still running great with their electronic gauges.
What makes you think everyone else feels the same as you do?
Box frame is a Rust Bucket in the making. Nissan tried it and owned one. The box frame rusted out. I had to basically give it away. The rest of the truck was still in great shape. Crap gets in and can't get out.
Nissan kept a naturally aspirated engine and the rear doors to its smaller cab. And didnt share a frame with a fricken Titan.
Oh great, makes me not want to buy one, I'll stick with the V6
How do you stop moisture from collecting and pooling inside the box frame and rusting out? That’s what typically happens in the box frame design, and the reason why they went to the open design.
so cool, cant wait for 15 years in the future to see people put these engines in 86's and brz's ☠️☠️☠️
It's a pretty punchy engine with a lot of torque. I bet we'll a 86 swap in the not too distant future.
When my 2nd gen Tacoma motor pops, I’m seriously debating on swapping in this new engine. By then all of the bugs will be worked out.😂
No mention of direct injection impact on engine longevity. So long million mile potential, hello 100k engines.
How does direct injection impact longevity? If you're worried about carbon buildup this has both port and direct injection to clean up the valves, other than that gdi has not much impact on longevity
You know what they say when you ASSume?
Love the truck but not towing with a 4 cyl turbo
I wonder if the suspension upgrade kit in the off road is all the same components as the pro. The front looks the same . Not sure about the fox shocks though.
I really like Sheldon. Love the way he presents the Toyota Tacoma in videos.
Wonder if the boxed frame will help these frames from not rusting out like all the other gen’s
That’s what I was wondering. I saw a few holes so moisture and debris and salt will enter. I see a recall at about 5 years in northern zones just like the previous models.
@@blauer2551thanks was thinking about the same (Holes in the frame lol )
Interesting frame discussion. More openness and transparency about the weight increase to provide a more corrosion resistant and stiff frame would have been appropriate. And most important a close section in a truck frame is infinitely superior to an open section and one need not apologize or deflect for making this design choice.
Should have kept the V-8 and V-6. If I’m buying a truck I’m not worried about saving 3mpg and losing a V-8
His hands are tied by the EPA.. government.. he can’t really tell you the “real truth” about this new engine. The rest of the truck is pretty much the same. This is a truck after-all and all trucks are heavy and get lousy mpg.. that’s just the way it is.
Nixon started the EPA and it's become way too controlling.
Glad to hear that the cooling of the engine uses oversized pathways to circulate coolant. As Turbocharged small displacement engines run hotter.
Will be interesting to see if regular towing at or near the max will have a negative impact.
Time will tell. Toyota has spent a lot of time building their reputation for reliability. Maybe wait 1-2 years before purchase so they can sort out any early issues.
Why don't these auto manufacturers just be honest. It has nothing to do with thinking a 4cyl turbo engine is superior to the 6- or 8-cylinder engines or that a 4cyl engine will get better MPG. It's about the restriction's the EPA put on manufacturers.
It’s definitely regulation. They should get around 10% better economy and there is way way more torque. In real world driving, these are fairly quick.
I heard there is a tax in Europe penalizing larger displacement, plus the emissions and fuel economy standards. Toyota is and will continue to suffer from limited EV options. But hey, at least we finally got rest disc brakes, huh? 🤔
I don’t even really care about the mpg, I want my vehicles to go 200k plus and never have to go to the shop and be on a first name basis with the service rep
Is the engine block a closed or open deck design?
I think I'll keep my 3rd gen for a long time.
Same reason I'm keeping my lo-mi 2nd gen.
Love the 2nd and 3rd gen tacoma 👍
@@robrichdale114 I just wish we (in the USA) could get the TRD/OR package in the 3rd gen with the Access cab & manual in the USA.
I really wish the 3rd gen had rear disc brakes. But according to the Toyota engineers we didn't need them. And yet the 4 runner had rear disc.
@@robrichdale114 Agreed. However, it still stops pretty good with the 4-pot calipers up front.
Turbo charged engines just simply will not last as long as naturally aspirated engines. Shame on Toyota for caving to this climate 🐂💩 and compromising the longevity of their vehicles.
Get a ridgeline. Rides better, more comfortable, full-time all wheel drive and tows enough for most folks. Has a v6....
Yes you are right! Turbo V6 Tundra engine is done!
Time will tell with "long term corrosion protection " First gen had boxed frame and started the tradition of accelerated impermanence , 2nd & 3rd gen had C channel and rusted just as fast. Now back to "thinner boxed & C channel. I am tired of the mandatory fluid film ritual, and at these prices it should not be required, even in Saltshitistan.
V6 engine has been a reliable engine, wasn't hard to change transmission and only add hybrid ?
The Tundra has a V6 hybrid, but the Tacoma is a lower priced truck, hence 2.5L only.
He left out the part where it gets a lot easier to pull a blown 4 cylinder with this new layout especially after putting a turbo on it. I have always had Toyotas but with the new turbo 4's they still need a lot of work. Especially for the price they are asking for these things, Toyota has to either bring back the V6 or extend the Warranty or build bigger lot's for the 24's to sit on until they do.
The V6 is gone and so am I would never get a truck with a 4-cylinder engine ever you can put all the turbos in the world on it and it is still a 4-cylinder engine and $50 thousand for a truck with a 4-cylinder engine no thanks I can't believe Toyota jumped on the 4-cylinder band wagon. I will never get a truck from them ever again if they dont put the V6 back in the Tacoma? So, it gets a little better gas mileage, but I hear they put a smaller gas tank in it so much for better gas mileage the rear disk brakes are nice, but I have a Tacoma 2005 V6 4x4 and it should have had rear disk brakes too but no very sad about this move to the 4-cylinder I will keep my 2005 Tacoma with a V6 in it and 4x4 and no rear disk brakes :( sad days for us Tacoma drivers
Turbos have their place, but I'm not taking my truck on the rally circuit.
Everything is good for the 2024 Tacoma but people don’t know is the 4 cylinder turbo needs lots of care and maintenance in order to last longer ! Or else !😂😂😂😂😂😂
I have a good friend that has a 2012 tacoma with the 2.7 engine. A few years back. He used the tacoma with a snowplow on it for couple of winters, and it started buring oil like crazy.
After engine tear down by a master toyota tech, it was found the the cylinder walls had severe wear, and the engine had to be replaced.
The engine was over stressed.
Point is what do they think is going to happen to the 24' tacoma, when the little 2.4 turbo is stressed. Its going to damage the engine.
I keep seeing silly comments of folks saying , oh just get rid of them before the warranty runs out. LoL
The whole reason i purchase toyota tacomas is for the years and years of reliability.
If you trade ever 2-3 years you never own a vehicle. You should just lease the truck if you trade that much.
My oldest tacoma is 25 y/o.
My newest is 2015.
I wont be buying a new tacoma
Interesting frame discussion. More openness and transparency about the weight increase to provide a more corrosion resistant and stiff frame would have been appropriate. And most important a closed section in a truck frame is infinitely superior to an open section and one need not apologize or deflect for making this design choice. Just come out and say how much heavier the truck frame is. At the end of the day it’s the total of power to weight ratio that determines the responsiveness and performance of the vehicle under acceleration and it’s fuel economy..
I don’t know did you notice the cv angles on the front of the new chassis the angle is way better on the old one?
The Tundra engine is a direct fit in this new chassis so if the Turbo 4 doesn’t see good adoption numbers Toyota could stick a detuned 3.4V6 Turbo in there ..
They have a 2024 concept Tacoma called the X Runner that has the Tundras V6
I’ve been driving Toyotas since 1988 . I quit buying them in 2021 . I’m driving a 2019 Titan and absolutely Love it . I know I can put 300,000 trouble free miles on it Like my 2007 Tundra has it .
I see that the cat is deep In there, is there gonna be a need for a cat shield for the 2.4 turbo engine?
Don’t worry Toyota will probably add sound to your speakers like the Tundra
I don't remember any augmented sound on the drive, but it's been a few months.
What is the RELIABILITY and FUEL ECONOMY of these engines??
No one knows reliability except Toyota, but everyone knows they stake their reputation on it. MPG is about 15% better vs the V6, and varies according to configuration
@@revmatchtv Turbo 4cylinder engines of these new models will not have the longevity...we shall see, I have the 1985 Toyota 4runner/Hilux SR5 5 speed with the 22re... ( no rust) and is geared for 35's and gets 22 mpg using PURE gasoline, not E10 type of fuel... has 288,000 miles on it and burns no oil and no leaks whatsoever. Regular 10-30wt oil changes and Denso spark plugs from Japan. no after market parts.
Somewhat on topic, does anyone know if the new Terra color is exclusive to the TRD Pro? Thanks.
Yes, but it will be available for all TRD trim a year later. But for this year, it only on the Pro. You have a two window period to get the color you want. Though some Pro colors do come back. This is how Gen 3 work, but no information for Gen 4 yet so take my comment with a grain of salt.
Why make the tune in the SR 228 HP for the AT and 270 HP for the MT, and everything else is 270 HP and up. So only the SR AT is 228 HP and it’s just a tune.
My 2015 Frontier has boxed frame. In fact the Frontier has always had a boxed frame.
I hope toyota brings back the V6
Got one of the last 23 V6 and glad I did.
same as Chevy telling everyone their new turbo4 Colorado engine will be more reliable than the old V6 long term.(don't believe it). Can one company admit they would prefer to make a V6 but due to EPA requirements they didn't.
A brief message to RevMatchTV: If you're going to do any panning at all in your video, please set your camera to 60 FPS!
24 fps is a specific choice. 60 fps does not look natural to me. I prefer high frame rates for sports, but not for people talking and moving slowly, but I appreciate your input.
Wonder what he has to say about the faulty transmissions and broken shock towers?
I’d like to see a v6 towing a boat and just rolling at idle ish vs a 4 cylinder turbo revving high to get the same power output.
This is the same guy that defended rear drum brakes saying how they were better than discs. Yeah right we'll believe you dude!
I love the style but won't buy unless 2025 has a V6. I have a 2011 V6 and I'm used to it. Toyota put a V6 option in it for 2025 👌 please
the toyota's dealers department are ruining the brand horrible to deal whit
Does this make my 2007 Tacoma 82k miles more valuable now?
Does the new Tacoma have stop and go technology?
Hopefully the turbo is water cooled and people are sensible enough to use a 5W 30 or an extremely hot climate to 5W 40 and change it every 5000 miles or sooner
So long, engine longevity...😠
Fully boxed frame for toyota job security. Nice.
I owned Toyotas for over twenty years with Tacoma, Tundra and Corolla and they did very well but not perfect. When I complained to Toyota Corp. they used to be responsive but the last few years they didn't care about the customer. They have gotten very arogant and I don't know why since the advent of the frame issues, engines issues etc. I looked at the 2024 Tacomas and did not like the new 4 cyl turbo. I looked at all the other midrange pickups and ended up with a Honda Ridgeline with a V6 and two FOBs unlike my 2024 Lexus with only one FOB. I have a four year warranty on the Lexus but when that is up I am done with Toyota. So far I am very happy with my Honda Ridgeline and I don't tow and if I did I would not buy a Tacoma I would get a Tundra to tow anything of any size. IMHO.
I think Honda Ridgeline V6 is better buy
But Ridgeline aren't off-road truck. The whole point of a Tacoma for me is off-roading.
And here we are 8 months later and the failures are in full swing
A lot of expensive shyt that doesn't really increase performance or decrease expenses in any way.
Towing still shyty 6500 lbs.
PASS
No matter how they’re trying to make this new Tacoma Turbo looks good, but, it’s not as same as old V6. I always had Tacoma. I was waiting to get the 2024 model but, totally changed my mined. I don’t think many people will go for this screwed up model. It’s not gonna be the best sellers anymore.
Engine downsizing has been a trend for 40+ years now. Global regulation is the driver. I do predict it will sell well though.
@@revmatchtv good luck, I’m not the one buying it. My V6 2006 Tacoma still going fine after 280,000.00 miles.
More complex engine design, more heat, higher pressures, more moving parts, more hoses equals less reliability, less durability and higher cost of ownership.
I just want a simple, basic, tough, capable, rig that has a comfy seat, AC, 4WD, and a cup holder for me long drives. Bring back Basic trucks, it should never cost near what the luxury vehicles cost.
The 4x2 Taco starts at around $33K. SR XtraCab 4x4 is $36K including $1500 destination fee.
I'd take the natural V6 over those grenade turbo 4s any day.
They can explain it all day. We all know what their dealer lots look like.
Wow Thanks for This Vídeo For Toyota
No V6, no thanks
You weren’t going to buy one anyway and if your serious about a v6 Nissan frontier has a truck for you but I know your just a tire kicker and not going to buy anything
@@ateeqafzal4444 okay, keyboard warrior lol
@@dividendfire855 if you sleep better at night with that comeback and then i guess still doesn’t change the fact of what I said earlier
@@ateeqafzal4444 sure princess, w/e you say.
Turbo engines fail with less mileage period
I hope you Engineers designed this thing with maintenance in mind and extra parts! Not so much for the consumer, but for the dealerships! These trucks will be breaking down and falling to pieces by the thousands.
I can't wait for GenZ'rs to put cat backs on a 4cyl....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Toyota Tacoma is doomed. We all know 4 cylinder turbo sukx, inside of a truck. This truck is now best used for pickup up compose and wood chips at home depot.
Bro why did he say compact instead of mid-size at 1:52… there hasn’t been a compact from Toyota in NA in decades. The Tacoma has the best selling midsize in America for years. Why would he say compact and not mid-size when talking about the Tacoma… I think this is a Freudian slip and he accidentally revealed a new compact concept based on TNGA-F platform and not a compact on the TNGA-K (RAV4) platform as is being hypothesized online
I fully expect Toyota to release a compact truck to go up against the Maverick within 2 years.
Thats y Nissan is better now!! My Titan pro-4x 5.6 V8 will outlast any Toyota!!
Bring back the V6.
Will see how durable is your ENGINEERED design. I guess get he extender warranty for this turbo 2.4L with a rubber belt and not a chain. More maintenance cost, lucky mechanical shops to get more income from repairs…
Bring back the v6! Stupid 4 banger turbo! I love my 2016 manual v6.
Who made the headline for this video. It says it's going to explain the new engine. The video is not about the engine(s) at all. It's about the frame and suspension. C'mon you guys, get your act together.
It's all about reability! If the new engine does not live to it, Toyota is in trouble.
Turbos are a bad move for the longevity of the vehicle not why I buy a Toyota.
A truck without leaf springs its not a truck. That rear suspension looks weak especially dealing with salt in northern states.
4 banger with turbos hybrid nothing but issues
I dont trust an engineer that calls an engine a "motor", sorry, Toyota, you can do better, attention to details.
FACTS!! 4 CYL WAS A HORRIBLE CALL! MORE PARTS, MORE HEAT AND MORE STRESS AND YES MORE MONEY!! MY 2023 IS WORTH IT'S WEIGHT IN GOLD!! NO ONE WITH ANY BRAINS WOULD BUY A 4 CYL AND NOT FOR THE PRICES THEY ARE CHARGING!! TOYOTA HAS LOST IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SAD DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Toyota quality is done
Weak engine
You will suffer from high fuel consumption.
I knew the tacoma looked to western for my taste...
A 4 banger👎
I smell BS from Toyota a mile away because Toyota brought the 2024 Toyota Tacoma X Runner " Concept " to SEMA 2023 and the LA Auto Show. Now, Toyota brought out the 2024 Toyota Tacoma X Runner " Concept " at the 2023 SEMA Auto Show in Vegas but, the same engineer said, " We putted a V6 Toyota Tundra's engine in the 2024 Toyota Tacoma. The Toyota engineer made for the 2024 Toyota Tacoma can carry a V6 from the Toyota Tundra's in the 2024 Toyota Tacoma. Soon or later Toyota will or would bringing back the V6 on the 2024 Toyota Tacoma when the US President changing hand this year. I know what you saying, " It's only a concept and they never putting it into production ".