He gave me the "ICK" / read the description / my BSD opinion
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Я не имею ничего против хедканонов людей, это их личное дело, но я против травли персонажа/его фанатов из-за какой-то теории. Мори не педо, это хед/теория фандома, об этой ситуации я писала в своём тг (t.me/niviklee_vi).
Вы вправе мечтать как хотите, но вы не должны оскорблять персонажа и/или его фанатов.
Одазаи вполне законны ибо Дазаю 18(он может заниматься сексом, но не может пить алкоголь, забавно), Оде 23, да и я лично не думаю что Ода первым же делом потащит Дазая в постель. Опять же, вы можете не любить шип, но вы не можете оскорблять его фанатов, или запрещать его.
Чуя и Акутагава не становятся хорошими (с точки зрения человечности) лишь из-за того, что любят животных. Не делайте из них святых, они буквально убийцы. Не возносите персонажей из-за любви к животным (Гитлер любил животных, он хороший человек?). Я не запрещаю любить их, или любого другого перса, который хоть раз убивал, но не делайте из них невинных милашек, пожалуйста, это кринж.
Любой (законный) пейринг, в любой (законной) подаче, имеет право на существование. Особенно в фандоме ,в котором так много персов как в бсд. Хватит запрещать шипы только из-за того, что они не относятся к таким "великим канонам" как Соукоку, Шин соукоку, Олд соукоку, Ранпое и прочие, в фандоме куча других пейрингов, которые ничем не хуже.
Любите что хотите и главное не запрещайте другим делать то же самое, спасибо за внимание.
I have nothing against people's headcannons, it's their own business, but I am against bullying a character/his fans because of some theory. Mori is not a pedo, this is a hc/theory of fandom, I wrote about this situation in my telegram chanal (t.me/niviklee_vi ).
You have the right to dream as you want, but you must not insult the character and/or his fans.
Odazai are quite legitimate because Dazai is 18 (he can have sex, but he can't drink alcohol, funny), Oda is 23, and I personally don't think that Oda will drag Dazai to bed first thing. Again, you may not like ship, but you can't insult his fans, or ban him.
Chuya and Akutagawa do not become good (from the point of view of humanity) just because they love animals. Don't make saints out of them, they are literally murderers. Don't exalt the characters out of love for animals (Hitler loved animals, is he a good person?). I do not forbid you to love them, or any other characters who has ever killed, but do not make innocent cuties out of them, please, this is cringe.
Any (legal) ship, in any (legal) filing, has the right to exist. Especially in the fandom there are so many characters as in bsd. Stop banning ships just because they do not belong to such "great canons" as Soukoku, Shin Soukoku, Old Soukoku, Ranpoe and others, there are a lot of other ships in the fandom that are no worse.
Love what you want and most importantly do not forbid others to do the same, thank you for your attention.
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Полностью с вами солидарна.
but odazai is illegal??i agree with almost all of these except for the odazai one.
Odazai IS illegal what r u saying 😭 they met when dazai was quite literally a child and oda a grown man that could pay taxes
You know, they don't have to be together when Dazai 16, people tend to grow up. Personally, I see them in a relationship in au with a survivor of Oda, where Dazai about 20. If you perceive their relationship only as 15/20, then maybe the problem is with you
@@niviklee_vi oda sees dazai as a child, which is definitely weird. As well as Odazai is pretty much making oda look like he waited for dazai to be a legal age for the romantic stuff, both 18dazaixoda n 15dazaixoda are both equally disgusting
@@sealest Dazai is changing and growing as a person. The attitude/perception of Dazai Oda is also changing (you can compare the first meeting and the dark era) Their relationship becomes more equal, there is no difference in their maturity (dazai may even be too conscious, and it doesn't matter if he is 15 or 22, it's obvious). Therefore, the statement that "Oda sees Dazai as a child" is quite controversial, because in the canon they are in the golden mean, they are not a parent / child and not two fully mature personalities, the details depend only on each person's own opinion. "It looks like he was waiting for Dazai to come of age for romantic stuff." Wow. Amazing, right? Isn't it obvious? That is, I'm sorry, but I don't understand, you are not satisfied that Oda can not wait for Dazai to come of age, and at the same time you are not satisfied with what he is waiting for. Obviously he will wait, at least because it is illegal to fuck children, no?
15/20 Odazai is also unpleasant to me as a thorn, which is not surprising, but 18/23 is quite adequate, there is no problem in it (with the law for sure), and only your opinion, norms and principles are connected with everything else. I believe that the age difference of 5 years is adequate, even if you have known each other since adolescence. Here, in many ways, it is the characters of the characters that matter. In any case, everything is individual, but calling a legitimate ship disgusting just because of your personal perception, I think it's impolite, I'm sorry. But, it seems to me that everyone should stay with their opinion, since this conversation will not lead to a different outcome, what do you think?
@@niviklee_vi half of that doesn't make sense at all, I am very aware that they are not parent/child or anything like that. But oda DID pretty much see dazai as a child in canon, which definitely makes the romantic shipping between the two of them seem absolutely gross and weird in a creepy way even if dazai grew up. Oda died before dazai got into a mature adult as 18 despite being the legal age to become an adult dazais mindset was still the mindset of a 15-16 year old. Which Is definitely creppy since they had a specific age gap but as well as a gap whit mindset “obviously he will wait" is a pedophilic thing to say no Offense. Since your saying basically that oda had Romantic intentions whit dazai when he was a child.
@@sealest Again, we cannot know the exact perception of Dazai by Odа, so it is pointless to say that Oda saw a child in dazai, they had the same thinking, and there was no difference between them. Oda wasn't even some kind of mentor for Dazai, at most a moral compass, but no more. But the moment of Oda''s death, Dazai is ALREADY 18, because he left the mafia the night after Oda's death, and he was already 18 at that time. Strange - not strange is your opinion, and to be honest, I was already fucked up to write the same thing. In my opinion, I have already proved that the ship is legitimate, and everything else depends on your personal feelings. I'm not forcing you to accept or even love these two as a ship, to be honest, I don't care at all, but understand one thing, if your moral values/norms and boundaries are not suitable, the ship is illegal and disgusting. If anything, everyone (except for a couple of exceptions, like Nathaniel/Margaret) ships is problematic. There are headcannons for this. Their relationship is not presented in the canon as a child and a parent figure, or even a mentor. They're just friends. Different ages, but? In any case, you can take it as you like, it's your business, no one cares, but if you no longer have any excuses about the "illegal ship", then can we finish? Don't get me wrong, but I don't see the point in such a dispute when we obviously have different opinions (and it's also difficult for me to translate your messages, lol)
most of the theory of mori being a pedo is just theories, but he is literally married to Elise...😭 and states that "i prefer the women in my life to be under 12" so... he is an actual pedophile in bsd. it's true Elise is his ability, but that doesn't make it okay. If he wanted to marry his own ability he could have at least made her over 18.
It's not true, it's a theory."/ Mori prefers children under 12, they are easy to use as a mafia tool, or his personal one. The same Yosano, until she broke down because of her friend's suicide, she endured all the oddities of Mori. Q is the same, it's easy to use until he has a chance to leave. Do not hang labels until you know the truth by 200%, please (Mori is an interesting character, and I'm sorry that the only thing they say about him is "he's a pedo" And about the fact that Alice is his wife, well, that's also a theory, but who knows who they were to each other before the war? They could have been a couple, lol, he controls her physical form, and she could have been an adult girl before. The fact that she is a child now is either a hint at Yosano (the theory that Mori misses her), or a cover (in crowded places he is not perceived as a threat, because he looks like a simple father and daughter)
@@niviklee_viIn the manga it literally says ped@philia to him and elise calls him lolicon in the manga
@@Renkuu_Zen Oh, I didn't know about the first one, can you tell me where it was written? And about Elise, these are translation features because these phrases are absent in the original and in other languages
@@niviklee_vi I really don't remember that much because i finished the manga a long time ago, but i will try to find it for you.
@@Renkuu_Zen ty
I agree with them all except for the mori one
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@@niviklee_vi Ладна ладно 😨😰😰
Согласен!!!! Особенно часть с Одазаем❤ Я обожаю именно этот шип!!! Не знаю почему, но для меня он прекрасен 🌹
Бл.ть, как же я вас понимаю..
Я любитель многих шипов, и некоторых странных, от чего - получаю от фэндома.
Я не любитель Гоголь/Федор, Дазай/Чуя, Коё/Акико, я раньше их любила. Сейчас вообще с Федором никого не шиперю, Дазая по большой части шиперю именно с Куникидой, Чую с Тачихарой, Акутагавой или Мори, Коё ни с кем, Гоголя тоже ни с кем, и люди когда узнают это, начинают свою шарманку.. уууу. А когда узнают, что я люблю всех Ищеек, ВСЕХ, они начинают затерать, что Фукучи - убийца.. почему с Чуей и Акутагавой это не работает? Они же прям убийцы! Интересный вопрос, и очень открытый, а когда задаю этот вопрос - Они же не убивали моих любимых персонажей.
И чо? По его фразам, ясно, ЯСНО, что ему не нравится убивать своих подчинённых. Даже Акутагаву, он нажрался этого на войне.. иногда бесят эти люди.
Теория с педо Мори - п.здец просто, на каком основании они это достали? От слов, что его привлекают дети? Так это может означать, что они его привлекают в силе и ему возможно интересно, как они себя будут вести, не? Он лидер Мафии, возможно он хочет себе новых подчинённых найти? Он возможно вообще асексусал и аромантик. Надеюсь потом перестанут такое затирать.
Видео красивое, мне нравится
Оаоао, неужто единомышленник? 😭
В 2020 году, когда я вступила в фд, я не особо шарила и просто решила плыть по течению (читать как "шипперить то, что шипперят все") Но спустя уже пол года, я поняла насколько мне не нравится взаимодействие соукоку в романтическом плане и перешла на одазаев, за что в последствии отхватила люлей и от ру и от англо фандомов. Очень бесит когда люди настолько фанатеют по какому-то шипу или персонажу, что забывают о том, что не всем нравится то же самое. В итоге я заебалась объяснять это каждому второму(буквально, 21 год никого не щадил) и стала просто слать каждого недовольного. Работает, советую
По поводу ситуации с ищейками, это такая жиза.. Мне Фукучи понравился даже больше Теруко или Тачихары (причин нет, само как-то вышло) и изначально (после "смерти" Акутагавы, Дзено и Тачи) я понимала почему все бушуют, но когда это затянулось и продолжилось прям до самой смерти Фукучи, меня бомбануло. В этом фд персонажей которые ни разу не убивали - меньше половины, и то, что Фукучи "убил" тех, кого я перечислила выше, это лишь необходимость. По той же причине Чуя отпиздил Лавкрафта, или, Куникида швырнул в Аку шокером, ни больше ни меньше. Фандом слишком лицемерен, но я надеюсь, что как только большая часть фанов вырастет и немного поумнеет, то фд сразу станет адекватнее и терпимее..
Спасибо за просмотр и интересный комментарий 💗
@@niviklee_vi когда Чуя побил Лавкрафта - молчат, я помню как многие люди говорили, что любят его. Что-то не видно.. когда Куникида в Акутагаву кинул шокер - тоже молчат, что за странность?.. мммм, не знаю, не знаю.
Спасибо за совет, буду использовать, надеюсь тогда люди отстанут