How Did Pre-Steroid Bodybuilders Get So F***ing Jacked??
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Great video, I think these historic lifting topics really suit you.
You should try isometric exercise and eccentric exercise and also learn muscle control
I did not watch the original video, the title "History of Bodybuilding Documentary" would have been much better IMHO. Because that is legit what you did and something no other creator ever did in this detail.. You really created something amazing here, sad that i overlooked because i thought it would just be some training programs compared.
But a Doc at this detail on the history of bodybuilding? Hell Yeah!
Ah.. Just saw people whining about title changes below.. F them.
15:06 "most done without repeating excersises" means only 1 set with 10-15 reps?
I like that the author of Sherlock Holmes judged the first bodybuilding contest ever.
Sir Arthur Swollen Doyle
Sir Arthur Swollen DYEL
😂
Swol Doyle rules!
He was a pornstar.
"Do you even lift bruh?" (c) A. Swollen Dyel, ca 1901*
To summarize: Heavy compound movements, good nutrition & rest, & progressive overload.
Niceee, saved me 15 minutes, thank man
Wow, simply revolutionary, no one ever heard of that before.
@@Vladimyrful😂
@@VladimyrfulHeard but never followed. What is actually followed : Science
@@pigeon-hater2267 I don't understand?
Been training 40 years! No juice no special diet just hard work..Still ripped af at 53 years old!!!
And I’d say you’re stiff as a board from all the weights!
Rock on brother. Haters gonna hate.
Just checked your channel garageman brutal training keep it up grandpa
Damn you started at 13 sick
He started training his right hand at that age and switched to the whole body workout later.
It's worth mentioning that EVERYTHING was harder then. You want dinner? You're walking to a butcher, a farm stand, AND a baker, and carrying it home. There's no refrigerator. Someone's cutting the wood to make the fire to make dinner with. Everything was just harder. Even pooping
I grew up in the 80's and I second this, even back then something as simple as say TYPING, I learned on a manual typewriter with heavy ass keys and a manual return took hand and finger strength. I remember being a little kid and still thinking the automatic doors at supermarkets were cool, likewise the powered windows on my rich uncles car and his remote control for his tv(!)
All little things but there have been a dozen of those over the years, them calories add up.
Nonsense. Taco Bell easily makes modern pooping a battle no caveman would win.
@@joalvarado8506 especially since pooping yourself to death was a pretty common way to die until like the 1920s
Pooping was harder because you had to walk to the out house.
the ice box was invented in 1802. People were more active but life was no more harder or easier than it is today.
Bodybuilding contests need more singing and gymnastic events
I wanna see Markus Ruhl do ballet@ErgBerg1998
ehhhm...Magic?
I would love that. Better than the dry sterile competitions we have now. Although Idk to what degree the gymnastic events should go. Go too far and you lose out on size. Maybe Bromley can form his own bodybuilding/powerlifting contest
pose routines kind of already a dance, but maybe like some acrobatics or contortion included in that would be cool, whoever can do all that and still be the biggest wins
Gymnasts unironically look better than most bodybuilders.
"lifting a horse ... upside down" like wtf
i need to add that to my training
You should, it's really made the difference for me 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Yes, but be smart like me. Start small. Start with a Poodle then work you way up depending on the animals available. I'm all the way up to a Pony right now. Soon will come the horse.
@@donjuantrumpetajohnsonAs someone that has lived with ponies. You are already strong asf
Here before the thousand different thumbnail and title changes
I critiqued the constantly changing titles and thumbnails a few months ago and copped flack for it, I like that it's now a meme at the top of the comments for all his recent vids 🤣
Here before this guy
A lot of pages are doing this. Idk y
Started watching and this is actually a reupload. Man this channel is dying.
@@IsaacMorgan98 nah the channel is fine, and i dont mind the name changes that much
I swear ever since I've been subbed, I'll have a random thought about something gym related and then the next time I'm on YT there's a video by you on the home page about that very thing.
Also, I get a huge smirk on my face whenever I go through my old comics and magazines and see those Atlas program ads.
The algorithm K Nowith. All!!
There has always been individuals who built muscle easier and faster than the average person, that in combination with on average much higher testosterone levels is the reason.
Its not always testosterone being the main factor. Although you are right. Its still a factor thats important. Just overall genetics. You can have a dude that's skinny or pudgy and short, with more test than someone bigger and broader shoulders. Also you give 2 people steroids. And 1 might not gain even half the amount as the other.
Much higher test, organic food, clean water, clean air
Man, people that complain about title and thumbnail changes are ungrateful af. These things can make a difference between a video having no views or a million views, without changing the quality of the video. Don't let the people get to you, Bromley! You rock!
Yeah i dont get it. He's making great vids. Who cares about title changes
@@theItalianshamrockobviously you do since you’re commenting about it.
Yeah more views from the same people thinking it's a new video. Just make a new video. Your supposed to be a content creator not a lazy click bait maker. I didn't know he does that .... Definitely gotta unsubscribe now.
@@PACHOUSEFITNESS there are constantly new viewers coming in. Do you run your own successful youtube business? I have a feeling that if you did, you would have a different way of talking about this
I literally didnt notice because 1) I dont care and 2) I watch the video and move on. It boggles my mind why anyone would give a shit
Good to see another tuber finally covering Oldtime (sort of) bodybuilding, would love to see some bronze era strongman specific stuff, I cover this myself but as a small channel next to nobody see’s it
Here for the lifting and got a history lesson. Awesome 💪 thanks.
I'm on my 3rd week of 70's Powerlifting on Boostcamp. Damn, it's a ton of work but I'm loving it!
Thanks for putting it out there
2 weeks later. how is it?
@@dinguskhan46329 love it! I cranked up my calorie intake, and that's helping recovery.
Feel like as long as I keep that side of things covered, I'm on track to be the strongest I've ever been
Wanted to get in on this too I’m on week 7 and bro I think week 3 squat day was the hardest workout I’ve ever had. I’ve gotten noticeably stronger DENSER dude it’s hard but fuck the results are great just make sure to EAT and SLEEP it’s hard to recover in this program imo
@@nicholaswright807 totally agree! Week 3 was a bear, 3 of my 4 days were up around 50,000lbs for volume and it was right at the limit of what I could do. Excellent results though, really enjoying the exercise selection too
Appreciate the research put into the video, Alex. Keep up the good work!
Wouldn’t be surprised if food quality was a major factor.
Right. Far less chemicals and things of that nature.
@@bofi1280 chemicals in the water have a huge affect on natural testosterone levels.
It doesn’t
Keep strongman a circus act with freaky feats of strength. I actually stumbled on my copy of professor Attila's 5lb dumbbell book when tidying up today.
Thats awesome piece of histroy!
NGL< thought this was a full standalone video instead part of "History of Bodybuilding" video.
Still watched it all the way tho
@@rafaelt8589 Same. Just realized it was part of documentary when it suddently ended.
"Wtf...ohhh."
@ErgBerg1998 Me neither. Taking two hours out of life randomly for something is hard to do.
Imagine how people would look at Cbum with his current physique back then
Probably like some sort of monster tbh
Same as those viewing the original Hercules actor from 1959 vs Arnold in Conan probably. 😀
Pitchforks and torches, my friend.
Would have thought he has some sort of tumor in his muscles most likely.
Mr Bromley. Hails from Bromley, South East London.
And awesome video much appreciated
Well researched and very informative video. I love learning about bodybuilders/strongmen of the early days of physique training.
Loved the vid. Thought it ended too suddenly
The point made about valuing movements over body parts resonates with me.
Anyone that says "better food quality" or "higher testosterone" is coping. Nothing stopping you from making whole foods to get your balanced diet.
Testosterone is also lower due to obesity definitely is a factor. And a lot of those guys lifted with techniques or practices that would be considered inefficient today and still got jacked. No excuses
Mr. Bromley, thank you for your thoughts, material, perspective and honesty!! Congratulations upon the birth of your child!!
I understand your priorities and your principles. No one should have to spoon feed “normal” adults - I worked with adults with extreme cognitive and functional disabilities- their (completely volitional) information at the sake of your sleep, rest, or patience. Not a one of your viewers need watch, subscribe or agree with your content; and neither do we need complain if our soft pillows aren’t plumped up enough…
I will keep learning from you if you will keep teaching. I will retain the lessons long after your children are grown, and long after I can no longer hear adult men telling you to hurry up and tell them something they should already know save for being too lax to go find the answers themselves.
Bad Genetics prevails over Poor Priorities!!
Build a great new human being!!!
Thanks for continuing to make great videos
Clasic physique with no oversized chest🙏
They didn't train the pecs in those days. That's why they're flat-chested.
@@Bruce_Wayne35looks less gay.
@@AIDS_survivor okay little chest
or bubble guts !!
This is an aspect of bodybuilding i wouldve never thought was so gaddam interesting
Excellent content and production, Thank you.
Excellent research. More of this please good sir. Thanks.
Nice walkthrough few progressions. Thanks
This seems to be well researched unlike many videos who may depend on youtube rumor. Thank you. Incidentally the 5 lb weights apparently were spring loaded (you had to squeeze the handle).
Awsome, informative video. Learned lots of stuff about bronze era lifters.
Dude, you went deep on this one.
I'd say they ate less carbs and pretty much no highly processed food.
Carbs are good, they give you energy for workouts and any physical activity.
@@Las645 I'm not saying carbs as such are bad. I'm just saying that one's diet shouldn't be dominated by carbs. Nowadays people eat way too many carbs (especially sugars).
@@dctPLwrong lmaoooo carbs is literally more important than protein wtf you on 🤣
@@animalscars3799 Carbs turn into sugar in the body, carbs from one source are better than others. Its healthier to get your carbs from fruits and vegetables than it is to get it from the overly processed wheat/rice products that lack traditional fermentation, whole nutrients due to bleaching, and are made with seed oils.
@@animalscars3799What the fuck are *you* on? 😂🤣 It's always so entertaining when some ass-ignorant person believes the direct opposite of a widely-known truth and is so goddamn arrogantly confident about it. 🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡
Most of them were well under 6' which certainly helps in terms of the appearance of mass
Dude, this is awesome! Just imagine the downsides of old recovery (injury) methods in place back then. I have had to do things that way for the last few years. Shoulder injury either early last year or the year before that still is annoying to this day. Pro tip: don't freak out and attempt 100 pushups and thirty pull ups in the same day. And yes, I attempted those in sets of 10 for the push ups and 5 on the pullups.
Amazing video, my dude!
The Mr Olympia should totally be changed to “the hurly burley extravaganza” 😂
Thank you for your research.
Great Video, Thanks!
Love the background music
Fascinating. They understood what systems/networks/muscles etc were weak by simply looking at them and testing them. The flabby comment is especially compelling, as this is something that becomes beyond obvious when you start to test muscle groups yourself in regards to contractions/muscle tone etc. When I finally stumbled upon this line of methodology myself, I was able to solve all of my back issues/knee issues/shoulder problems etc. They didn't understand the nervous system/brain part of it of course, but they noticed and sensed their bodies likely better than we do today. Really interesting video!
Rappresentavano la VERA Forza del Fisico Umano, senza nessun tipo di DOPING, o aiutini Vari!!!
Massimo Rispetto!
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Great content and presentation here.
Subscribed. 🤟
A lot of the very early strongman work and aesthetic can be traced back even further to ancient Greece which no doubt inspired them as of that time sculpting the body, human strength and feats of athleticism were seen as mastering oneself and just as important as art and philosophy. Building the muscles was seen and celebrated as an aesthetical art form.
Hence sandow stating he was inspired by 'the Grecian Ideal'
Iv been looking for this kind of chan for years thank you Jesus.😂
I’m pretty sure being a strongman at some point is an arc of every great man’s lore
Another great video!
You are doing a great job, Alex! Thank you for this mini documentary
I spent my morning in the gym used to be the sort of thing that raised eyebrows. Now it’s assumed you spent half that time on your phone.
This was very nice, hey could you examine their lifts and compare them how they fair to a modern strength table
Also weight training was not mainstream, meaning the ones that did were most likely to be individuals with an aptitude for developing muscles.
most likely to be individuals with an aptitude for developing muscles? thats Not 100% true,you are generalizing that they where most likely,individuals with an aptitude for developing muscles. Many actually started out frail and used weights to build themselves up. Read the following books "Superstrength" by Alan Calvert,and Physical Strength simplified by Mark H Berry.
Watching this on your rest day is not optimal for rest. Just hearing about Hackenschmidt makes me wanna go lift and pracrise a new language.
This is a good question - please dont forget that the poison in environment and food, esp microsplastic, decrease the testosterone across the male population. This is already a problem during the development of the embryo. An additional proof - the fertility of men is way lower than 1980. Check the interview on impact theory with a biologists (female).
They had lead and industrial waste pollution back then
@@kaizenproductions00 Yes - but obviously still more testosterone… maybe at that time the pollution was more localized in specific places - nowadays it is way more proliferated. Environmental poison also had time to accumulate in gonads over time and generations. Also the food was much better. I heard somewhere that eating 1 orange in 1920 would give the same nutrients as eating 8 oranges today. Well - but nowadays we have TRT and/or Steroids :D. Easy.
Great historic work, thanks, cheers from Germany
Interesting historical fact:
The short film showing a part of Sandow's posing routine
was the first recorded motion
picture ever( yeah, let that sink
for a moment).
Edison and Sandow were re-
portedly the first to believe that this type of entertainment
could have a future at all, while
others fought it was a complete bullshit idea at the
time.
One might argue that Edison and Sandow were on to
something. 😂
Great video
Homie was viral before viral was viral 😂😎💪🏼
Dedication! Plain and simple. It'll take longer than it would with gear and limited to size and strength but getting jacked natty is possible.
I have done this myself, I was in prison which helped. I can remember the majority of the gym goers were all strong, some leaner than others as you will find in most gyms.
I remained natty till 38 and have used gear over the remaining 11 years so can clearly see the benefits to either gear or not.
What was your prison workouts like?
Weird how this kind of just ends, no outro? Good video either way
Their natural test levels were on avg much higher. Their food was fresh and natural. Now with pollutants we're chemically castrated and fed processed crap. Nowadays you'd need to be on TRT to match what they could do natty back then.
Awesome video
all i can say this light dumbbell training is extremely intensive for the tendons. so i assume it helps a lot to develop strength. a thickened tendon also enables the muscle itself to develop stronger fiber basis at the main part.
especially the biceps curls with just 5 lbs (excersises 1 and 2 from sandow) will show this clearly.
you will also train into getting used to the burn feeling more and more. you basically learn to still execute a reptition with having a burning muscle already. cause your pain and ability to still move your arm, increases if you stick to this program.
when you learn that you can overpower the muscle above failure your strength with also grow, not just the muscle size. the cool part is, with low weights its much easier to do. cause you cannot really damage something. just overlactate the muscle.
i tested it with 100 reps
i still could go longer cause the weight wasnt much. but i did cut here. and i had to shaken my arms for about 2-3 minutes after i did just to get rid of all that lactate in the muscle and distract me from the unpleasant pain it causes.
you will feel it more afterwards than inside the reps. it was not much pain but it was a really annoying feeling (more like a pressed one that limits movement). only by constantly shaking i got it back to normal feeling. you do not even not wanna do that. you automatically wanna shake your arms. this was new to me.
the other excersises are not that painful. due to not being that high in rep count.
however when done the ones for the abs right. they are also quite heavy intensive. can therefore be recommended.
so we can say he gives you the best start to learn to train hard enough later with higher weights as well. good for newbies indeed.
and this is already strength itself!
the body will automatically due to this effect start storing more nutrients and fluids inside his muscles to be better endure the next session and stress you put him under.
you aquire especially with your arms the strength and power the endurance type fibers give you. you may not had before.
so if someone never did train in such a way before. you can bet this person will aquire more muscle size. cause even the type 1 fibres can hypertrophy a bit. i dont know how much at this point in time. but if it gives you extra power for higher weight lifts and hypertrophy region training as a new trained basis by default. its worth therefore developing it too.
adds to more solid developed ground in my opinion.
they can decide the difference between still being able to do one or 2 more reps with higher weights later. compared to not having trained them at all. cause then its zero more reps.
do not underestimate trained endurance fibres compared to not trained ones.
adds to energy consumption when this is regularly trained. and this adds to more jacked look. such muscles seem to need more consumption compared to not trained in such a way without adding much to feeling of hunger. so they burn the fat a lot. could be a logical explanation if you ask me. pretending you do it often enough to get lean from it.
I have two friends
Both born 1990 started working out 2007
Both good genetics around 1.80m
One started to roid 2015
The other is still pure natural (doesnt even take creatine or whey)
The roider benches 200kg
The roider squats 250kg
The roider deadlifts 250kg
The roider can do 10 strict pull ups at 120kg bw (rather ripped 120kg)
Slow body type
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The natty benches 180kg
The natty squats 250kg
The natty deadlifts 310kg
The natty does 10 strict pullups at 120kg bw (huge guy but no fat belly)
Sprinter body type
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The natty definitely looks more intimidating having oldschool warriorlike genetics with large as fck hands, 50cm arms etc. The roider looks more like the typical roider with veins, leathery skin etc.
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The roider eats a modern diet with lots of pasta etc
The natty eats a traditional german diet with lots of cabbage, fish, pork etc
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If the natty stops training he will keep most of his strength and muscles after 1 year of no workout
If tge roiders stops roiding he will be back to 120kg bench in a month.
Why roid if you are not Hafthor?
It's so crazy that you just happen to have two friends that are the exact same age and height, that both started training at the exact same time 17 years ago. And that they have similar numbers. It's even crazier that they both of them happened to max out an give you their numbers and diet for this comment.
Steroids make people much stronger, especially when they lift. That's common sense. There's downsides to steroid use too. I'm not trying to be mean but I'm honestly curious, why did you sit down and make all of that up?
@@mrdavisdance yeah, I call bs
It sounds like total bullshit
wait it IS bullshit
I still know dozens of nattys who look better and are stronger than 90% of people on TRT
Some pure natty stats on a traditional german/silesian diet: 180cm, 100kg BW, 15 years of training - 300kg Deadlift, 10.5s sprint, 50cm arms, 80cm thighs, 45cm forearms, 50cm calves, row training is 140kgx8, german silesian prussian genetics, white blonde.
My brother easily pulled 300kg deadlift with 2 years of training at 20yo 120kg bw at 1.85m on a traditional german diet.
The thing is, in Germany we mostly hate people who roid, but there are tons of genetics who could easily pull 450kg and more. But in Germany roiding is either for immigrants or for bodybuilders.
There's no conceivable way people from 150 years ago had access to more knowledge/training methods than we do today.
Well before I even took gear, after five years of training clean I was 218 had 18 " arms and benched 400 x 4. Gear gives you no more than 25 % or less. After gear 226 lbs arms 19.5 " and that was about it. If you don't have genetics and work hard no amount of gear going to make you champion.
I've used "double progression most of my life, started while in the Army. It just seemed intuitive that as the weight became too easy, I should increase the weight. I really had no idea it was this old.
3:30 good ole iron online forums.. I had always enjoyed Dave Drapers weekly news letters/emails and looked up to him since my late teens.
He passed away on my dad’s birthday in 2021 and my dad passed away in August of that year.
No processed foods, meaning no frozen pizza, no ice cream, no cookies, etc.
What? So I'm just supposed to eat raw beef and wheat?
@@ictogon It was the available food. Whole Foods. It is not an opinion. You can’t eat what does not exist or isn’t available. Also, the lifestyle was different for a lot of people. Less cars, more walking. No computers or tvs, people would engage more in other less sedentary activities. I am saying nothing new.
Felice Napoli was a fashion icon.
Need a playlist of the history of building series
Very interesting history of Weight lifting bodybuilding.
I've just found out today after watching a couple of videos, that without ever hearing about them before, I've apparently been doing 'super sets' and 'double progression' the last few years. I thought it was something I had made up myself.
Thank you
Heyyy a dan John book made an appearance, nice
Awesome vídeo
Excellent information! Very thorough. Thank you for helping us "naturals" see the awesome potential of the human body, unassisted by drugs!!
Many now days lie about drug use. To me it's pretty obvious. The unfortunate thing is that if you are exceptional and work hard , you are accused of not being natural. I find that a shame, and frustrating.
Keep up the good work!!
Most people who accuse others of steroids are just ignorant and weak, they haven't seen what's possible because they're not talented or hardworking so anything that goes beyond what they think is possible must come from enhancements. These people are the majority in the fitness community since now working out is so popular, so you have some muscular guys being self conscious about their results. I was accused of steroids when I benched 315, that says it all. It's like the new buzzword accusation.
The secret was the dapper mustaches.
When I went “weapons free” with my workouts going to failure with either wt or calestenics everything took off.
Oldtimers trained frequently but they practiced movements ..just like an archer does archery. Only tested their strengths during events. They ate a lot and even drunk moderately!
Beer is my favorite way to bulk
They did high frequency training and never to failure.
What's your source? I've looked into a lot of the classic greats and they seem to follow a lot of different practices and protocols, it was kind of a wild west to my understanding.
@@_Sp4c3y_ read Pavel Tsatsouline’s: Power to the People. “Feeling the burn” was not a priority of the greatest classic lifters like Arthur Saxon. It was intentionally avoided. They were much better at empirical observations since they didn’t have social media, only experience.
Interesting
Genetics plays the most important part in how u turn out some people can make fantastic gains in just three months while others might take years and still not get real strong but even if you are just average you will be a lot better off than a person that doesn’t excercise
The original fitness hustler
loved the part where u linked the full video
Better food, higher testosterone, better character and higher discipline.
Acts chapter 2 verse 38.
God Bless Y'all 🙏🙏🙏.
The early bodybuilders that we still remember today had elite level genetics. Their training was not better than modern day training
genetics take part in training but are overrated, there are two types of people that constantly talk about genetics: the ones who didn't spent years on good training and diet and are whining in the comments they had bad genes, or the ones who spent eyars on steroids but claim it is genetics
@@Nickxxx85 Nope. There's one type of person who thinks genetics don't matter. Those who have great genetics but want to pretend they got their results from working harder than everyone else
@@mustang8206 everyone who spent 5+ years on good training and diet have great physique and don't whine about genes. First time I was in a gym was in summer of 2004 after a year of training in my home. I practically never heard people in the gym talking about genes this and genes that. But on youtube I hear it al the time. Not hard to understand why. Some people train, some people whine, some have experience some theory from youtube
Wow this is interesting!
They weren’t always on the phone at the gym that’s why.
Well there is a thing called genetics. Some people truly are easy gainers. I think that people now days have become so jaded by the rampant steroid use that it's become hard to believe that people can naturally get muscular. And it is extremely difficult to become jacked naturally. Which is why you saw so few people who were jacked in the old days. People don't realize that not only do you have to have Greek god genetics you have to basically dedicate your life to training and diet. Even then you probably won't look as good or be as strong as the people using steroids.
That is real history.
Respect to the lad. He tried his best to give some work to a pro fighter and failed, no shock there. But after that, he took his beating like a man salute.
Just to clarify about the Snatches, cleans,jerks,presses part, Its saying to establish your 10 rep max and then do 2 reps a with an extra 10lb lets say then add an extra 10lb for 1 rep?
Gaining muscles is probably overcomplicated by media. Most people in the gym don't lift to muscle failure and that's the reason most people stay slim.
Imagine if we could develop a Physical Culture Bodybuilding Circuit that focused on health and aesthetics together like in old timey days. No dangerous diuretics or abusing drugs. Just total health with aesthetics. As many people as watch CrossFit competitions I think there would be an audience.
Guys, genetics are a real thing for everything in life.
Indeed, we all have genetics
Good genetics are key
To do this you must use what i call full body constant tension- the workouts should be 12+ hours per day!!
They also had more organic food compared to the pesticides being used effecting our hormonal levels