Grew up in the Shenendoah valley. My home town has been devoured by "progress". The woods i played in are a shopping center, the pumpkin patch we sold christmas trees out of is a commuter lot. My uncles old farm market is now a dairy queen. Population tripled in 15 years. DC folks mostly. Nobody who i grew up with can afford to live here anymore. Good times
They kept closing the manufacturing and nothing was done. I remember a Steel Plant in my area growing up. I grew up in Warren, Michigan. The big Steel Plant was shut down, and I was with Dad and we passed it, and he said to me “just think of all the men who lost their jobs”…I knew it was meant for me to think about what he said. I’ll never forget it. I felt really sad for the men…that had to be around 1965-68
We are working hard in our community to encourage local food production and growing extra to sell to others. Local food for local people. Most of the folks around here don't realize how many small businesses are tucked away down a country road...with a simple sign out front as the only advertisement. Small engine repair. Auto repair. Sewing and dressmaking. Surplus food and bulk food. Beef and pork. Eggs. etc. More little places are popping up and we like to share about them. It's an uphill, but we are going to need each other very soon and the sooner we start supporting this local economy, the better. We live about 40 miles from one of the largest Amish communities in the world. They have a very unique economy set-up. Much of it is based on tourism. But. They sell to tourists, they employ from within their community, their businesses are built by their neighbors, the land is purchased from their neighbors, the money they make is pumped directly into their community. The Amish buy and sell mostly within the local groups - so MY money from 40 miles away - is recycled multiple times with in their own group. It doesn't return to MY community. Their economic situation only grows - as evidenced by the exponential growth of the area. It's a smart system.
I wear slippers from the my pillow guy , bought his towels and sheets too , nice stuff , but the soles on the slippers crack after about 6 months , they guarantee them for a year , they sent me a replacement pair , but I read the box this time , says Made in Cambodia , WTF ! America can’t even make Slippers ?
@@user-ci2mn1oy3w it depends on how long they will last. As I get older I’m more of a buy once cry once type. If I spend the $, I want it to last. But everyone has a different philosophy.
Ill never regret moving to the mountains , hasnt been easy and i had to learn several things but ill never go back i really got out of my comfort zone I dont know what the lizard people have planned but im glad i have a few things and am getting a few more , take care MR !
In the Greenbelt of Niagara Region? We had vineyards, corn, orchards galore, potatoes, tomatoes, cucumbers, peppers, cauliflower, pumpkins, squash, beets, berries, onions, etc. Then Bicks, Robin Hood, General Mills and EDSmith Left. Orchards and vineyards were bulldozed. Family Farms were Sold. Less and less Food Stands at end of driveways. Greenhouses went up. Land grabbed by Industrious Farmers, to Do fields of soybeans, etc. Pick Your Own places closed.
@@sgmarr we have lost so many of those pick your own places, it’s incredible. Mom used to take us kids around and we would pick fruit and berries all day and the next day we would can them or make jam.
Cruising the back roads , farms , animals , fabulous views , sometimes I take where I live for granted , but it is truly Paradise , I’ve been a lot of places , none compare with Home ! Glad I was born here
The "perfect place" is an area with great geography and great community. Small town that is walking distance to farm land is "prime real estate" in the future ;) Small town Michigan near fresh water should be good spot
I understand your options concerning the solar here in Michigan. The daylight hours are short in the winter AND the constant spraying of our skies furn perfectly clear blue skies into a dyll haze that absolutely affects the efficiency of the solar panels.
I’m here in Solon Spring area in Wisconsin. Two years ago moved out here off grid. To bring power in a bit over a mile was 90,000. I have probably about 27,000 into my system but most people when they’re here don’t realize I’m even off the grid. And yes December and January Are certainly generator days, but if S HTF happens long term generator use would take an astronomical amount of fuel. I plan on trying to get more panels up for the winter. Right now if it’s even a half sunny day, my batteries are charged normally by noon and a lot of electricity goes to waste. I would certainly suggest the people to have some solar system with generator and batteries. If you’re ever out in this area you’re welcome to stop bye see this set up. Have a great day.
Sadly the small town that I live close to has very few businesses that are relevant to the common man. Most things are all geared towards tourism and the ultra rich. Hard to believe you used to be able to get everything you needed in one small town.
I'm in a blip on a map of a small town. If not for a highway going through, you wouldn't even know it was here. Main road is where pretty much everything is. As far as stores we've got an overpriced grocery store with expired dairy/other cold foods, rotten produce, and rude af employees (plenty of online reviews agree with me!), a hardware store that doesn't always have what you need, an internet/living room-only furniture store, a couple nail salons, 3 stores with "Dollar" in their names, a restaurant supply (not food, tables and cookware type stuff) store, a very expensive florist, and a few other miscellaneous places, plus two local banks, a couple churches, and city hall/water department/whatever else. You need shoes? Gotta drive to the closest small city (12K pop). You need clothes? Not even a thrift store within 15 minutes. You want to buy a book? Better hope Wallyfart half an hour away has what you want or you're gonna have to order online. I know even Pa Ingalls had to go into town to get stuff and maybe I'm a bit spoiled, but jeez Louise...not even shoes here!
I agree 100%. Can't find anything hardly anymore made here. One small hiccup in the system and all the cards fall down. Great information as always thank you for sharing and have a blessed day.
Good thing to learn how to make what you can, like cloth....if someone has the ability to create moccasins or actual shoes...they will be in high demand. Yes. New areas don't have everything the same as the last place. And knowledge of your area, it's personalities and the volatility of those individuals is key to keeping yourself alive...😂
Sometimes you can find the Rexall brand that's made in USA. Dollar general carries it. You have to read the boxes. Curad has some things made in Brazil..a little better
@@ModernRefugee They used to be what almost every drug store was in the US . Now their products are sold in Dollar generals. I don't know how that happened. I'll have to do a little research. What's worse than Band aids is pharmaceuticals ( medicine) most are made in Germany or Ireland. If there was a supply chain issue we would be in trouble.
i have a playlist on my channel called flashpoint the pacific,,,,, China is working hard to take all of the south china sea. that is a big part of supply chain
I remember when I was young on Sundays the gas/service stations took turns being open. The mechanic would come in only for emergency. Anyone else remember those days? Last until the 80s up here. Stores didn't open on Sundays until the mid 90s. many still don't.
@@ModernRefugee As a thinking man I think you'll find this of interest. LILLEY UNLEASHED: The world's population will shrink, will this be a good thing? ua-cam.com/video/Qhv-CsDJ3RQ/v-deo.htmlsi=eTzXpa-odd4STQPF
Relocating to a new state isn't as easy as people on social media make it out to be, especially if you don't know anyone in the area you want to live. Staying in Michigan would be preferable, but I'm kinda waiting to see how things go in Lansing over the next few months. I'm very pro-2A and if we become another Illinois I'm gone.
MODERN REFUGEE- have you ever considered what the impacts/limitations on our medical facilities/personnel will be in a major prolonged SHTF? Specifically will our doctors and nurses be able to diagnosed and treat without modern technology. Can a doctor do his/her job without an MRI, CT scan, ultrasonic machine etc? Many hospital may not be able to run key diagnostic machines and a major power outage off their generator. Think about your visits to just your doctors office- can they take a BP, and pulse without their fancy machine? None of their equipment is EMP proof and I doubt many places have old school back ups. Heck if there was an EMP who has an analog watch to help take a pulse?
Youre not kidding about moving. I grew up in Oakland county. Moved to Kalamazoo area in o8. I still cant remember street names out here and how to get around like back home.
And everything we purchase is tracked from every direction. Between credit card transactions, shoppers clubs, rebates, special offers, cell phone usage, aps, and everything else we are constantly being surveilled. How many purchases are we making face to face, cash on the barrel head? Ditch the cell phone for a few hours, stop at the bank and take out a wad of cash and go shopping for what you need? I know it's a lot easier to order online and have stuff delivered, but it this the smart thing to do?
Not to mention all the traffic and security cameras, plus phone cameras of others around you at stores...oh, and we can't forget the satellites! BigBro is a PeepingTom!
FEMA did a study with HazUS software modeling a major earthquake on the New Madrid fault line. Kids those bridges across the Mississippi River good bye. Both vehicular and Rail. Even if the Army Corps of Engineers get a make-shift bridge up transportation would still have to contend with thousands of smaller bridges that will also be destroyed.
Here in Muskegon we have seen manufacturers close over the years. Power plants torn down. Now china brings in their manufacturing plants. Most of our big businesses are own by China. This idea that we need to make things here is true however, most of the companies are owned by China not by Americans. It’s a bigger problem than just at the state level.
Do you mind sharing how you make your ice tea? What tea bags do you use & how many per gallon? How long do you let it sit out? That looks so refreshing every time I see you drinking it!
@@jackiemcdonell1737 I use 8 Red Rose tea bags in an old glass jar ( gallon ). I leave it set on the porch about 24 hours. Then I just pour it over ice when I’m ready to drink some. A jar full lasts about a day at our house.
Yes I got two bridges to cross and one train trussesl before I get to my off grid cabin but there is two other ways that take longer I have often thought of what if some one messed it up buddy ?
Another thing that effects the supply chain is politics. Not just you did a bad thing so we won't import xyz from you, but I want to look tough for the election so this or that. This is usually poorly thought out and it is the people who end up being hurt.
Grew up in the Shenendoah valley.
My home town has been devoured by "progress". The woods i played in are a shopping center, the pumpkin patch we sold christmas trees out of is a commuter lot.
My uncles old farm market is now a dairy queen.
Population tripled in 15 years. DC folks mostly. Nobody who i grew up with can afford to live here anymore. Good times
They kept closing the manufacturing and nothing was done. I remember a Steel Plant in my area growing up. I grew up in Warren, Michigan. The big Steel Plant was shut down, and I was with Dad and we passed it, and he said to me “just think of all the men who lost their jobs”…I knew it was meant for me to think about what he said. I’ll never forget it. I felt really sad for the men…that had to be around 1965-68
We are working hard in our community to encourage local food production and growing extra to sell to others. Local food for local people. Most of the folks around here don't realize how many small businesses are tucked away down a country road...with a simple sign out front as the only advertisement. Small engine repair. Auto repair. Sewing and dressmaking. Surplus food and bulk food. Beef and pork. Eggs. etc. More little places are popping up and we like to share about them. It's an uphill, but we are going to need each other very soon and the sooner we start supporting this local economy, the better.
We live about 40 miles from one of the largest Amish communities in the world. They have a very unique economy set-up. Much of it is based on tourism. But. They sell to tourists, they employ from within their community, their businesses are built by their neighbors, the land is purchased from their neighbors, the money they make is pumped directly into their community. The Amish buy and sell mostly within the local groups - so MY money from 40 miles away - is recycled multiple times with in their own group. It doesn't return to MY community. Their economic situation only grows - as evidenced by the exponential growth of the area. It's a smart system.
I wear slippers from the my pillow guy , bought his towels and sheets too , nice stuff , but the soles on the slippers crack after about 6 months , they guarantee them for a year , they sent me a replacement pair , but I read the box this time , says Made in Cambodia , WTF ! America can’t even make Slippers ?
@@joelaichner3025 I know. I got a shirt made in Vietnam just recently and thought the same thing.
@@user-ci2mn1oy3w it depends on how long they will last. As I get older I’m more of a buy once cry once type. If I spend the $, I want it to last. But everyone has a different philosophy.
Ill never regret moving to the mountains , hasnt been easy and i had to learn several things but ill never go back i really got out of my comfort zone
I dont know what the lizard people have planned but im glad i have a few things and am getting a few more , take care MR !
You take care as well!
In the Greenbelt of Niagara Region? We had vineyards, corn, orchards galore, potatoes, tomatoes, cucumbers, peppers, cauliflower, pumpkins, squash, beets, berries, onions, etc.
Then Bicks, Robin Hood, General Mills and EDSmith Left. Orchards and vineyards were bulldozed. Family Farms were Sold. Less and less Food Stands at end of driveways. Greenhouses went up. Land grabbed by Industrious Farmers, to Do fields of soybeans, etc. Pick Your Own places closed.
@@sgmarr we have lost so many of those pick your own places, it’s incredible. Mom used to take us kids around and we would pick fruit and berries all day and the next day we would can them or make jam.
Is it me or also the bug populations have dwindled.
I remember graveyard of bugs on the car and windshield after a good summer drive. 🤔
Cruising the back roads , farms , animals , fabulous views , sometimes I take where I live for granted , but it is truly Paradise , I’ve been a lot of places , none compare with Home ! Glad I was born here
The "perfect place" is an area with great geography and great community. Small town that is walking distance to farm land is "prime real estate" in the future ;)
Small town Michigan near fresh water should be good spot
Very, very true, Modern Refugee. We have pretty much the same Achille's Heel where I'm located. Sad, but true.
I understand your options concerning the solar here in Michigan. The daylight hours are short in the winter AND the constant spraying of our skies furn perfectly clear blue skies into a dyll haze that absolutely affects the efficiency of the solar panels.
I’m here in Solon Spring area in Wisconsin. Two years ago moved out here off grid. To bring power in a bit over a mile was 90,000. I have probably about 27,000 into my system but most people when they’re here don’t realize I’m even off the grid. And yes December and January Are certainly generator days, but if S HTF happens long term generator use would take an astronomical amount of fuel. I plan on trying to get more panels up for the winter. Right now if it’s even a half sunny day, my batteries are charged normally by noon and a lot of electricity goes to waste. I would certainly suggest the people to have some solar system with generator and batteries. If you’re ever out in this area you’re welcome to stop bye see this set up. Have a great day.
thanks MR ! I’m here in MI also
Sadly the small town that I live close to has very few businesses that are relevant to the common man.
Most things are all geared towards tourism and the ultra rich. Hard to believe you used to be able to get everything you needed in one small town.
I'm in a blip on a map of a small town. If not for a highway going through, you wouldn't even know it was here. Main road is where pretty much everything is. As far as stores we've got an overpriced grocery store with expired dairy/other cold foods, rotten produce, and rude af employees (plenty of online reviews agree with me!), a hardware store that doesn't always have what you need, an internet/living room-only furniture store, a couple nail salons, 3 stores with "Dollar" in their names, a restaurant supply (not food, tables and cookware type stuff) store, a very expensive florist, and a few other miscellaneous places, plus two local banks, a couple churches, and city hall/water department/whatever else. You need shoes? Gotta drive to the closest small city (12K pop). You need clothes? Not even a thrift store within 15 minutes. You want to buy a book? Better hope Wallyfart half an hour away has what you want or you're gonna have to order online.
I know even Pa Ingalls had to go into town to get stuff and maybe I'm a bit spoiled, but jeez Louise...not even shoes here!
For every (1) auto motive manufacturing job lost in Michigan from '93 to ''07, "9" other jobs were lost in support of that industry.
Important to consider... thanks MR 😎👍
I agree 100%. Can't find anything hardly anymore made here. One small hiccup in the system and all the cards fall down. Great information as always thank you for sharing and have a blessed day.
You have a blessed day as well. Take care.
Thanks MR
Good video, thanks for sharing, YAH bless brother !
Yep! Stock up on clothes and dry goods so you can barter or sell to others…
Yup, stock up, repair, and conserve.
Good thing to learn how to make what you can, like cloth....if someone has the ability to create moccasins or actual shoes...they will be in high demand.
Yes. New areas don't have everything the same as the last place. And knowledge of your area, it's personalities and the volatility of those individuals is key to keeping yourself alive...😂
@@edieboudreau9637 I wish I could sew like my Mother & Grandmother. It’s one skill, I just am not good at.
@ModernRefugee Ditto. It's tedious and I LOATHE tedious things.
@@auntlizzy1308 Yeah ,yeah..👍
Great talk my friend!
@@PenntuckytheCrag thank you.
Thanks for the objective, rational, and intelligent commentary. Such words are necessary, what with all that's going on these days.
Thank you!
OMG nailed another one .... and I shared ...
@@subdawg1331 thank you.
I did a tracking for Medical Bandages and such?
ALL of it, under Medical Supplies AND Bandaid Brand, Drug Store Brands, etc? MADE IN CHINA.
ALL.
Scary.
Sometimes you can find the Rexall brand that's made in USA. Dollar general carries it. You have to read the boxes. Curad has some things made in Brazil..a little better
@@edwardzarnowski5558 I agree about Rexall. They are a quality band aid in my experience.
@@ModernRefugee They used to be what almost every drug store was in the US . Now their products are sold in Dollar generals. I don't know how that happened. I'll have to do a little research. What's worse than Band aids is pharmaceuticals ( medicine) most are made in Germany or Ireland. If there was a supply chain issue we would be in trouble.
Am I still in YT jail?
@@zippy2641 no I see your comment.
@@ModernRefugee freedom!!!
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i have a playlist on my channel called flashpoint the pacific,,,,, China is working hard to take all of the south china sea. that is a big part of supply chain
@@BobNchannel I just subscribed to you. Take care.
ALWAYS valuable points ✅️
I remember when I was young on Sundays the gas/service stations took turns being open. The mechanic would come in only for emergency. Anyone else remember those days? Last until the 80s up here. Stores didn't open on Sundays until the mid 90s. many still don't.
Yes I do. It was the same here.
@@ModernRefugee As a thinking man I think you'll find this of interest.
LILLEY UNLEASHED: The world's population will shrink, will this be a good thing?
ua-cam.com/video/Qhv-CsDJ3RQ/v-deo.htmlsi=eTzXpa-odd4STQPF
Thank you! Love the topic.
Really enjoy your thoughts and commentary. Thank you. Much respect.
Relocating to a new state isn't as easy as people on social media make it out to be, especially if you don't know anyone in the area you want to live. Staying in Michigan would be preferable, but I'm kinda waiting to see how things go in Lansing over the next few months. I'm very pro-2A and if we become another Illinois I'm gone.
@@joe1940 I understand completely.
Great video!
MODERN REFUGEE-
have you ever considered what the impacts/limitations on our medical facilities/personnel will be in a major prolonged SHTF? Specifically will our doctors and nurses be able to diagnosed and treat without modern technology. Can a doctor do his/her job without an MRI, CT scan, ultrasonic machine etc? Many hospital may not be able to run key diagnostic machines and a major power outage off their generator.
Think about your visits to just your doctors office- can they take a BP, and pulse without their fancy machine? None of their equipment is EMP proof and I doubt many places have old school back ups. Heck if there was an EMP who has an analog watch to help take a pulse?
All very good (& scary) points.
Youre not kidding about moving. I grew up in Oakland county. Moved to Kalamazoo area in o8. I still cant remember street names out here and how to get around like back home.
And everything we purchase is tracked from every direction. Between credit card transactions, shoppers clubs, rebates, special offers, cell phone usage, aps, and everything else we are constantly being surveilled. How many purchases are we making face to face, cash on the barrel head? Ditch the cell phone for a few hours, stop at the bank and take out a wad of cash and go shopping for what you need? I know it's a lot easier to order online and have stuff delivered, but it this the smart thing to do?
Not to mention all the traffic and security cameras, plus phone cameras of others around you at stores...oh, and we can't forget the satellites! BigBro is a PeepingTom!
"progress"- total control took a long time but its finally here.
Yup, always pros and cons to every situation!
Hey how do you store potatoes long teem here in Michigan? How long do they last?
there are advantages and disadvantages to any place you live. Choose what works for you.
FEMA did a study with HazUS software modeling a major earthquake on the New Madrid fault line. Kids those bridges across the Mississippi River good bye. Both vehicular and Rail. Even if the Army Corps of Engineers get a make-shift bridge up transportation would still have to contend with thousands of smaller bridges that will also be destroyed.
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Here in Muskegon we have seen manufacturers close over the years. Power plants torn down. Now china brings in their manufacturing plants. Most of our big businesses are own by China. This idea that we need to make things here is true however, most of the companies are owned by China not by Americans. It’s a bigger problem than just at the state level.
Do you mind sharing how you make your ice tea? What tea bags do you use & how many per gallon? How long do you let it sit out? That looks so refreshing every time I see you drinking it!
@@jackiemcdonell1737 I use 8 Red Rose tea bags in an old glass jar ( gallon ). I leave it set on the porch about 24 hours. Then I just pour it over ice when I’m ready to drink some. A jar full lasts about a day at our house.
@@ModernRefugee Thank you! It's been a long time since I've enjoyed that!
Hello !
A Song by Supertramp , Take the long way Where ? Bike ride was fun ! Hint is ? E.T. Wanted to phone Where ?
@@joelaichner3025 I got to start listening to more music lol!
@@ModernRefugee I listen to lots of music , mostly 60’s & 70’s rock , it’s my Bible ! Tells me about the future , and it’s scary accurate
@@ModernRefugee E.T. Hint should have done it , didn’t you watch E.T. Either ?
Yes I got two bridges to cross and one train trussesl before I get to my off grid cabin but there is two other ways that take longer I have often thought of what if some one messed it up buddy ?
One place that diversity is needed is resources
Hi Modern Refugee
@@Diebulfrog79 hi Al. I hope you are doing better.
Another thing that effects the supply chain is politics. Not just you did a bad thing so we won't import xyz from you, but I want to look tough for the election so this or that. This is usually poorly thought out and it is the people who end up being hurt.