The STRANGEST Trade in NFL Draft HISTORY
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- Опубліковано 8 кві 2021
- At the 1974 NFL Draft, Commissioner Pete Rozelle had to pause the draft for 30 minutes because after a trade between the Detroit Lions and New Orleans Saints, both teams thought they were on the clock. The Lions thought that the Saints gave up their pick as part of the trade, while the Saints said they didn't. This is the crazy story behind what has to be the most bizarre trade in the history of the NFL Draft.
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Members of the 1974 Saints:
Larry Cipa
Archie Manning
Bobby Scott
Jack DeGrenier
Alvin Maxson
Rod McNeill
Jess Phillips
Howard Stevens
Sam Havrilak
Bob Newland
Joel Parker
Richard Williams
John Bealsey
Paul Seal
John Didion
Jake Kupp
Phil LaPorta
John Mooring
Don Morrison
Rocky Rasley
Dave Thompson
Emanuel Zanders
Steve Baumgartner
Derland Moore
Billy Newsome
Joe Owens
Bob Pollard
Elex Price
Wayne Colman
Don Coleman
Joe Federspiel
Rick Kingrea
Jim Merlo
Rick Middleton
Chris Farasopoulos
Johnny Fuller
Ernie Jackson
Bivian Lee
Jerry Moore
Tom Myers
Terry Schmidt
Tom Blanchard
Donnie Gibbs
Bill McClard
John North (head coach)
Richard Gordon (astronaut GM)
1974 Saints draft picks:
Rick Middleton
Paul Seal
Rod McNeill
Joel Parker
Terry Schmidt
Alvin Maxson
Phil LaPorta
Frosty Anderson
Tommy Thibodeaux
Kent Merritt
Jim Buckmon
Mike Truax
Kent Marshall
Larry Cipa
Jim Polak
Don Coleman
Marvin Williams
Members of the 1974 Lions:
Greg Landry
Bill Munson
Sam Wyche
Leon Crosswhite
Jim Hooks
Jimmie Jones
Altie Taylor
Ron Jessie
Bob Pickard
Larry Walton
TC Blair
Charlie Sanders
Ed Flanagan
Rocky Freitas
Bob Kowalkowski
Fred Rothwell
Chuck Walton
Daryl White
Jim Yarbrough
Larry Hand
Billy Howard
Jim Mitchell
Herb Orvis
Ken Sanders
John Small
Mike Henningan
Jim Laslavic
Paul Naumoff
Ed O'Neil
Charlie Weaver
Lem Barney
Carl Capria
Bill Frohbose
Dick Jauron
Levin Johnson
Jim Thrower
Doug Wyatt
Errol Mann
Herman Weaver
Chuck Bonica
Rick Forzano (head coach)
1974 Lions draft picks:
Ed O'Neil
Billy Howard
Dexter Bussey
Carl Capria
Willie Burden
Jim Davis
Efren Herrera
Mike Denimarck
David Wooley
TC Blair
Mark Wakefield
Fred Rothwell
David Jones
John Wells
Myron Wilson
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I’m just surprised there was an extremely bizarre trade situation from the 70s that didn’t involve George Allen
If you think modern NFL franchises are incompetent, you don't know the 1970s Saints (I am sooooo thankful I grew up a Brees-era Saints fan)
Well Brees is gone now you have Winston and Hill.
@@16ktsgamma This is true, but Brees still did his thing for many years, and the franchise has a championship to show for it as well.
I like the Lions counter argument of why they should own the pick.."umm..because they're the Saints...and they're consistently stupid??"
Coming from the Lions makes it an even bigger insult
I'm a Saints fan and I think it's a valid argument but I would still side with the Saints because it sounded like both teams were clueless over the actual compensation. The Lions didn't say that we were lying, just that we were wrong. There's a difference.
@@DMS-pq8 Lions were actually pretty solid team in the early 70s. Only problem was Minnesota was in their division. Lol.
That's an incredible story--Never heard that one...strangest trade in the history of the NFL draft for sure :)
Even better: The New York Mets traded Harry Chiti to the Cleveland Indians for "a player to be named later." However, the teams couldn't agree on the other player, so the Indians sent Chiti back to the Mets. Thus, Harry Chiti was the only player in the history of sports to be traded for himself.
I love that both the Carolina Panthers and Jacksonville Jaguars won playoff games before the New Orleans Saints did.
This would be sad, but we won a Super Bowl before them, so it's all good
Yes, but New Orleans won a super bowl whereas Carolina and Jacksonville are still looking for anwers. Go figure.
I love that the Saints won a Super Bowl before the Jaguars ever went to one and with the Panthers being 0-2 in Super Bowls.
@@bens5661 Panthers got to a Superbowl first
I find it interesting that both Wyche brothers (Sam and Bubba) both played for teams based out of Detroit in 1974, with Sam as a backup with the Lions (and being paid) and Bubba as the starter with the WFL's Detroit Wheels (and not being paid).
I'm a Saints fan and never heard of this but I wasn't born until 84
He was literally a former astronaut 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Fell out the chair laughing. These NFL stories from back in the day are wild.
Lol of COURSE a botched trade deal in the pre-Buccaneers '70s involved THESE two dumpster fires; only way it could've been more inept is if the Giants/Jets were involved somehow.
I still think Saints trading to draft Ricky was the most lopsided
I may be wrong but in 2015, wasn’t there a controversy when the eagles tried to trade up for mariota, and three eagles got upset that they were on the trading block, and the coach denied it.
Professional teams trading players is a business deal on the highest level. Does no one write these things down and exchange paperwork verifying the terms agreed upon?
The Saints passed on Henry Lawrence in round one, Who won 3 Super Bowls with the Raiders, The selected Tight end Paul Seal and passed on Dave Casper, HOF Tight end, and then Keith Farnhorst Who won two Superbowls with the 49ers because there was no real offensive line talent in this draft.
That's a no-brainer pick for the LIons, considering he scored 4 touchdowns to win the 1965 Chicago City Championship.
Not him.
@@area.man. Well duh. But, the actor did try-out for the Steelers after being a standout LB at Youngstown State.
@@c71score Yes
A reverse of the phrase "its not rocket science", in this case it is
My husband worked at a bookstore as a second job back then, Rick Middleton came in and went to the comic book sections to look for an Iron Man comic. My husband told me this guy was too dumb to play profootball, he was right.
The Raiders tried to trade for Manning in 1980, the ended up with Dan Pastorini who broke his leg and Jim Plunkett took over and the rest is history. But you wonder what would have happened if Manning had gone to the Raiders with that Hall of Fame offensive line.
Raiders dont deserve a QB like Manning
@@CBrown621 Archie Manning. You are right, they deserved a bum like Plunkett who won two Super Bowls.
47 years, 2 months, 11 days ago
17,237 days ago
Sounds like a familiar disagreement about how long ago events took place. Any idea what I'm talking about SCOTT?
get a room
@@abajindar I comment about him every comment section and he never even acknowledges me. So either he's a weird bot or weirder person than me.
I've said it before and I'll say something it again, I'll quit when he quits. Either get the time frame right or I won't stop.
@@KMcNally117 get a room
No clue
You said nothing like Hicks being second in Heisman voting that "nothing like that will ever happen again". Look at 1996 when Orlando Pace finished 4th and had 86 1st place votes. He actually finished ahead of Peyton Manning (8th) and Warrick Dunn (5th). Then he had a HOF career. He basically invented the 'pancake' as a statistic that year
Not to mention Hicks was one of the biggest OL busts ever. Only a 4 year career with little to show for it.
The Saint's GM was a former astronaut. Interesting...
Saints owner John Mecom's logic was that running an NFL team was by then so much a business, that a GM didn't really need to know about football. How that translates to an astronaut being qualified......no clue.
Was really hoping it was Al Bundy
Detroit vs Everybody
What’s funny is I was directed here after the OTHER strangest trade in NFL history, the Broncos non existent 3rd round pic
Randy Gradishar is in the HOF. You made it sound as if they had snubbed him.
The same Saints that almost traded Manning to the Packers, until the backup got hurt and the Packers traded for John Hadl instead.
Didn’t that trade from the Chargers blow up on the Packers face because even though the Packers desperately needed a QB, Hadl was on the last legs of his football career?
@@cityhawk They actually got him from the Rams. I forgot what they sent the Rams but it was something like two first round picks.
@@tookmyjob Was Hadl backing up Gabriel at that time?
@@cityhawk No, the primary starter was James “Shack” Harris and the backup was a young Ron Jaworski. Gabriel was with the Eagles starting in 1973.
@@tookmyjob THe trade was 2 firsts 2 seconds and a third for hadl, and the packers GM and coach left a month later. Hadl had 9tds to 29INTs and the packers suckedfro almost 20 years as a result
Wasn’t there a draft fairly recently where a team’s draft clock expired and the next team was also on the clock? I wanna say that it was the Ravens that ran out of time.
Vikings in 10’ maybe? I know it was purple and It’s definitely in the 2000’s
@@Bakes14 vikings in '03 and '04
I know things were a lot less corporate back then but didn't teams at least have to have a trade in writing?
Safe to say that Saints offensive line in the early 70s was worse than the Bengals offensive line over the last several years? Burrow feels Manning’s pain.
Sacks weren't a stat till the 80s i pretty sure that would have been tackles for loss which is more then just tackling the qb
Oh my poor Saints
I'd like to see how each team in the NFL got their names.
There's a different channel that has like a 30 min video on that
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There ya go friend
The Saints got theirs because New Orleans got the football team on All Saints day and the colors are black and gold because the owner John Mecum Jr. had ties to the oil industry.
@@scorpiusbalthazar4327 All Saints day? 99% of people do not know what day that is. I love Halloween, so I do know what day that is.
Married With Children Ed Neill? Al Bundy himself Ed O’Neill?
Funny, O'Neill was a player for the Steelers and this is a different guy.
If the poor Saints could’ve just gotten a decent O line to keep Archie upright, they would’ve won a ton more games. If Arch could’ve gone to a team with decent line n backs with a decent defense, that man is bringing home at least one possibly several Lombardi trophys
And the best linebacker to come out of that draft didn't go until pick #46 in the 2nd round, when the Steelers drafted Jack Lambert. If you say something different, he'll come to your house and kick your ass. #HereWeGo
at 8:18 you mention Ed O'Neil; is that the actor or a different person?
The actor played for the Steelers this was a different guy.
I demand you change your name to Gaguar or Jator. Thank you. Great vid.
To be fair, pass blocking before 1978 was pretty much impossible.
The NFL implemented a rule change in 1978 which allowed offensive linemen to extend their arms and use their open hands while pass-blocking. We take it for granted now, but just imagine trying to stop those elite athletes on the 70's, with your only your forearms and elbows.
So you're saying that the d-line talent in the 70's was overrated because the o-line was being held back. I wonder how different the Super Bowl winners would've been if that rule had been in place the whole time.
@@scorpiusbalthazar4327 - As defenders improved, the offense was struggling to keep up and something had to be done.
No disrespect to the legendary Deacon Jones, but he helped change the game in many ways, but the game was also a lot easier for him than it is for today's pass rushers. He played from 1961-1974. The rules change was 1978. He never had to face an offensive tackle who could block with his hands. Jones also invented and perfected the head slap, which was also rightfully banned in 1977, three years after he retired.
People don't like to admit it, but Jones was such a great pass rusher not ONLY because he was talented - which he was - but also because offensive linemen literally were not allowed to lay a finger on him and he was allowed to abuse them by slapping them in the ear hole. One has to wonder how good of a pass rusher he would have been in his career under modern rules. No, not modern players, just take modern rules back in time.
@@PaulGaither that's exactly how I meant it, having that rule back then, it would have drastically changed the landscape
No. The Hershel Walker Trade was the Most Dumbest Trade Ever. Built the Cowboy's Dynasty of the 90s.
Found myself around 3:25 going... COME ON GUYS!!!
top 10 pick for someone who is not a starter?? why Lion treating people like Idiot like how they treating C.J. as karma speaks of why they cannot win big games.
How many times did Archie Manning get sacked or hit in this clip? 50? 😆 wow
Negative 15 yards. Fuck. Better off throwing the ball into the ground every play
Do how the Vikings botched the draft and lost a bunch of spots before we picked. Can't remember the year though.
It’s funny because the thumbnail should be flipped
Yes Randy Gradishar Belongs in the HOF #Gradishar2023
Al Bundy
Wrong Ed O'Neill. Bundy was from Youngstown State and drafted by Pittsburgh.
@@area.man. gosh darn it got it wrong... but I still like Al Bundy
@@johnliberty3647 Best cast character in TV history.
@@area.man. I even sat through The Little Giants in a movie theater where it was all annoying kids and parents just to see Al Bundy as coach of the opposing team. Ed O Neil was just that cool.
@@johnliberty3647 Watch the movie Dutch with him in it, it is a great movie.
47 Years Ago
Randy Radishar is not belong hall fame.
Comment not belong any sense
HAHAHA !!!! You must be a comedian.