"Oh the things you shake, Oh the things you stir"... there are so few people both steeped enough in evangelical vernacular and honest enough to write music like this. Important work.
I didn’t understand what was going on with this album till I got here. It’s heart wrenching; it’s deconstructing my beliefs; & it’s beautiful like a sunrise on a car wreck.
My low-key favorite part about this video is the 'CCLI #10415' at the bottom of the first screen. CCLI refers to 'Christian Copyright Licensing International' - if you search their record for 10415 you find nothing. However, if you consider that it may be a coded message that's when the fun begins. 5 numbers could refer to a Bible verse but it would have to be Psalms because that's the only book of the Bible with more than 100 chapters. Psalms 104:15 says: "and wine to gladden the heart of man, oil to make his face shine and bread to strengthen man's heart." Derek is on another level, folks.
You know.. I think you just found an Easter Egg. i wouldn't put it past Derek. He loves to hide things in plain sight. …Psalm 104 v14: He causes the grass to grow for the cattle, And vegetation for the labor of man, So that he may bring forth food from the earth, 15And wine which makes man's heart glad, So that he may make his face glisten with oil, And food which sustains man's heart. 16The trees of the LORD drink their fill, The cedars of Lebanon which He planted,…
Brian Estabrook did you ever consider during your convo with Christian Thomas that you were talking to Derek, I just watched the vid and was reading through convos looking for other clues like the ccli one you pointed out, read that one and seems pretty likely. Christian (doubting)Thomas?
Derek, just wanted to say you articulated and satirized what I've felt about most christian music since I was a freshman in high school. I'm not even exaggerating when I say this is now one of my all-time favorite songs. Come to Orlando man. You got fans down here.
I would guess that it's the same old story: People who are always in control can't imagine what it's like to have something we can't control. And those of us who know we are powerless, apart from God, are amazed that there are those who always think they are in total control. The key word here being "think."
The album is a masterpiece, but you really missed an opportunity in this song to say something like "The greater the proof you provide the more I put my faith in you."
The typical worship slide "reaching hands" background really takes on a hue of zombie-like desperation. We do often treat God like an amorphous anesthetic, and modern worship culture is our accomplice.
I love how not only does this song have a new meaning the second time around, but also it has a whole new meaning when one listens to the album, which itself has a whole new meaning the second time around.
I laughed out loud for minutes when I fist heard the punchline. And then got choked up at all the parallels that were hiding in plain sight: Religion as with Alcohol: what a difference there is between seeking a little comfort and building a life in which nothing else matters. In a single vulnerable metaphor, this song expresses three key messages: 1) For many people, religion is escapism, 2) Worship is ironically, but remarkably transferrable [insert idol here], 3) Alcohol, like religion, delivers in the short term, but in the extreme becomes self-reinforcing ... simultaneously quenching and exacerbating guilt and shame. Throughout, its clever word play is poignant: the curse is born by the Holy spirit and by Spirits (alcohol). Every single lyric device here is coopted from familiar praise songs: everything from “quenching thirst” to being “stirred” to “only hope”. Moreover, now that Webb apparently no longer believes in God, it may not be accidental that both Alcohol and God are addressed in such personified ways. Part of the brilliance of this song is how unexpected the punchline is, even if you know there’s got to be something "classic Derek" coming. This song, especially the reference to the curse, is best understood in the context of the whole album, but don't listen if you have things to do. It could wreck you in the very best way. I can only imagine how difficult it was to write this.
Ah, now the last two weeks is making more and more sense. Seen Aids and alcohol destroy my family in more ways then one, Derek. Hate'em both but not the people. I deconstructed in the 90s after seeing my brother die of Aids. Christ rebuilt it back. Hoping you figure things out brother prodigal.
“Whoever drinks beer, he is quick to sleep; whoever sleeps long, does not sin; whoever does not sin, enters Heaven! Thus, let us drink beer!” - Martin Luther Show less 1st Thouhts (months ago) Wow, "we raise our voice we, we raise an offering, would you come near and quench our thirst" In the way, Derek sees the world in his mind's eye, this reminds me as the next step from CTRL. As if the character is looking back and forward at the same time, if we replace one word, you could likely have the next top "worship music" hit. DW doesn't do that, he turns the turns over a table and pours a drink for us to worsip together. I think his point (maybe) is that we worship all that is good, and Alcohol can be a part of that. I made me think that the "wedding" guests at the 1st miracle were singing this song. 2nd Thoughts (weeks ago) DW wrote a song Set about the Trinity. If thats now Following Jesus, than I'm a fool.. DW talking to CBN Music Last Year " "In a bigger sense, if we are diverse members of one body, which we are and we're told that we are, it speaks to a bigger issue. It would be arguably sinful for us to be a homogenous group of people, reaching the same conclusions on how to build the Kingdom that we're building together. If that's the case, if we are diverse members of one body, then it's no wonder that we bicker, fight, disagree and reach different conclusions. The only reason we gather together is in order to be healed by Jesus because we are sinful and sick, and then to praise Him for the healing that He gives us. So if we know that, then we have to learn how to say these three phrases to each other. We have to be able to look at each other, our diverse brother and sisters, and say that we're wrong, we're sorry and that we love each other. If we can say these things to each other, then we can hopefully learn how to say these things to the rest of the world.~Dwebb talking to CBN music" 3rd Thoughts (yesterday) I think it may be important to consider the wider context of this song. Nashville, where DW lives is a bar town. Lots of bars, lots of bar culture, famous country songs about bars and drinking. But, it is also a Church-town. Home to The Gathers, Brentwood, Word Records, Belmont. So what happens when Bar town and Church Town Collide? Some take sides, and some try to learn to wade the waters of both. ..So then you take Derek, the prism, he's reflecting his worldview from the corner booth. Maybe he straddles both, Bar and church, and does not know which provides more relief. Sometimes I'd rather be out with friends drinking than sitting in a pew. I get it. Over 10 years ago Derek revealed wedding dress at a bar concert. I don't know if it was the 1st time, but it was the 1st time I heard. it. He stood up to say you know what, I"m a "Hosea" (one of most screwy biblical characters IMO). And the church is selling itself like Gomer. It was shocking to the ears of the cookie cutter consumers I was a part of. We needed that shock. So now a generation later Derek from what I feel is saying. Alcohol is my curse, It brings him "freedom", but also 'weak knees" And his spirit bears this curse. I think the curse is that it's good and bad a the same time. "he calls out the only thing that delivers him" I think he is saying he knows this "curse" isn't holy but as Hosea had Gomers back, He has alcohols "back". It's a love / hate "I love you, I hate you" relationship. And maybe the fact that he feels he must straddle the Bar and the Church is the same curse. It's his curse. He can't be 100 % church, or 0% Bar. True faith straddles evil and good. We are both, were human . As Paul said "I have the right to do anything," you say--but not everything is beneficial. "I have the right to do anything"--but not everything is constructive. Derek can drink himself into a homless bum, or become a monk in a hill far away. either way, I see this also as an anthem of life. He is raising a glass to toast his life. - More thoughts (today) You took some mockingbird, sprinkled in some Stockholm syndrome, revisited feedback, added a taste of arcade fire.with a new future. Sonically I'm hooked. You've taken all I like about DW music and added enough pepper and brought it into a new era to make it a great vision of the future. I've written about the lyrics on the y-tube, (not going there now) THe acoustic sounds better than it has in years. I love the bass, the distortion, YOu have to listen to this on great speakers cranked on 11.This is not a mp3 ear bud song. There is a lot going on. Is this is the beginning to the Derek Rock Opera? If so , I'm ready for act 1,2, and 3. When it all comes in at the end. I don't know to shout or cry. Its Ethereal, Celestial, Honest yes, Futuristic, yes. awesome YES. Tribe Member, Yep. Still in the tribe since "LLOL"- peace JM
The truth of this song is profound. It is uncomfortable to listen to, especially as a Christian, but it is a good discomfort. In fact, if I may say so, it is...sobering.LOL As a professional addiction recovery counselor, I can affirm that, indeed, alcohol is not a problem. It is a solution. Rejection, resentment, anger, bitterness, shame, guilt, pain (physical or otherwise) are realities in all of our lives and we have all found ways to cope with them. Check yourself. It is there. Some ways of coping are more prominent than others (i.e. drugs, alcohol, promiscuity), but we all do it. Religion can most certainly be a way to cope. However, God (however you define God) refuses to be a coping mechanism. It is often interesting to me how a genuine pursuit of God, more often than not will lead a person inward toward the pain. Because the first place an honest pursuit of God will take you, is to the image of God inside of you. And it is from that image of God within us that we seek to hide (see the story of Adam and Eve from Genesis). The Rich Young Ruler, in the Gospels, asks what he must do to inherit the Kingdom of God. Jesus' response is to point to that which was already placed there. Jesus correctly identifies that this man is using religiosity to cope (another word for covering over or masking). So when Jesus tells him to get rid of the things in his life that he uses to cope in order to find life, the man walks away sad. This is too hard. Too real. This song makes a Rich young ruler of us all. We (Christians) find ourselves drawn to the rhetoric, because its what is familiar to us. We place in to the song, our own subject of reverence. I was drawn in, personally, the first time I heard it. To be honest, I felt comforted that he appeared to be singing about God (he was in a way). The final ecstatic call out to the subject of desire was shocking. It caused me to re examine everything I had just heard. Like the Rich Young Ruler, I had come in to the song with an expectation of comfort and affirmation of myself. It made the ending that much more eye opening to think that I had related so easily to a worship song about alcohol. It made me so uncomfortable. It showed me that I have placed so much trust and comfort and coping mechanisms in to a form of religiosity and a particular vernacular, that I would blindly give myself to anything that took that same form. I have been ever so slowly learning how to stop coping and start finding the source of pain and, from there, begin healing. That is the only way that anyone can uncover the image of God within them. Instead of Beings with any sort of substance, we are seeking ways to become Ghosts by constantly hiding in plain sight. But it is a completely pointless endeavor. We are trying to hide from something that is within us. So we go and go, moving from one solution to the next. Alcohol and food and religion and relationships and pornography and lying and drugs and gambling and many, many more. These are ALL ways to convince ourselves that we can't be seen. We are all little children who believe that by covering our own eyes, no one else can see us.
My dad really loved the Beatles. He trained me in them. He fed them to me like vitamins when I was young. And he always thought the White Album was the Beatles writing like the Beach Boys, or Dylan, or whoever, just to show they could do that too, if they felt like it. I don’t know Derek but I’ve always loved and been inspired by his music. My take is: Derek can write a song. He can write a worship song if he feels like it. And he did. And just because he assigned it to alcohol at the end doesn’t mean it isn’t a worship song. Especially with the whole play on words with spirit. If anything it’s a MORE HONEST worship song bc it is saying: this is where I am right now God. And I appreciate it bc I think it is where a lot of people are right now.
I could totally fill in a word like pornography in my case.. Thankfully I'm starting to see an end at my tunnel, and artists like Derek do help me to stay sharp. I guess.
The song that knocks "Wedding Dress" on its ass. The comments have been very entertaining as well, lively debate and conversation about an instantly provocative song.
Folks, I can’t take it anymore. He’s pulling your leg. In the same way he pulled mine (except on opposite ends of the spectrum). This song, and it’s video are meant to show the very unique and washed out “thing” people call worship music in churches that don’t know what gospel music is.. On its flip side it’s meant to show what becomes of those unique cases left behind Just on the outskirts of such religious gathering places. Aka the estranged songwriter who loves god but hates the people associated with them (yes god is a they/them because they explicitly said so in the text) He Loves music and his own self And loves to challenge those around him with REALITY as his ultimate weapon. this song is an expose to all y’all coming out here hard for Christ. We see youre trying to figure this out. Fact is; this is a man taking on the world. You are left behind. See ya on the flippity flip, I’m bored... GOODNIGHT.
This is so sad. "Come, everyone who thirsts, come to the waters; and he who has no money, come, buy and eat! Come, buy wine and milk without money and without price. Why do you spend your money for that which is not bread, and your labor for that which does not satisfy? Listen diligently to me, and eat what is good, and delight yourselves in rich food." - Isaiah 55:1-2
It's a sad song because it is true for a lot of people. I can visualize my alcoholic family members singing this sing as they "raise an offering" after beating my cousins, it makes the song way less cute.
Originally, I was expecting an album much like the one you released, given the things I've seen/heard since your last album leading up to this one. This was the first track I checked out from the album, and originally I turned it off after just the first verse, "disappointed" (so to speak) that it was just a generic worship song.
Not sure why you would delete my comment on your video a few weeks ago. But whatever. I would never delete or discount you. So AGAIN, I hope you are doing well.
"Give strong drink to the one who is perishing, and wine to those in bitter distress; let them drink and forget their poverty and remember their misery no more." - Proverbs 31:6-7 "And when they came to a place called Golgotha (which means Place of a Skull), they offered him wine to drink, mixed with gall, but when he tasted it, he would not drink it." - Matthew 27:33-34 Christ refused to allow his misery on the cross to be dulled. He gave himself no mercy, and by doing so, mercy has been given to us. I'm quite sure this is not the intended feeling this song is meant to illicit, but nonetheless, it's what I'm was drawn to consider....
This song caused me to re-think how generic & white-washed our Evangelical Church's "worship" songs often are. You've done it again, Derek...causing your listeners to think outside the stained glass.
I feel less like it’s commentary on the church or even worship music and more about the danger of idolatry and the most common form of it in modern US culture. I know for me that is how it hit home
Im just sad that heresy is the spirit of the age. If only Derek was preaching and not partaking in all the shenanigans. Everyone is a child of God, but we are called to change into a new creature (the transformation is not earthly)
Creative, honest,, and leading to a black void of satire and nihilism. Perhaps the author can find a middle ground between the cheesy culture of feel good worship rhyming couplets and embracing despair, with all hope in Gods love an evangelical cliche. Read Tolstoy - he destroys the shallowness of his characters only to rebuild them in a more solid, deeper kind of maturity after suffering and loss.
"Oh the things you shake, Oh the things you stir"... there are so few people both steeped enough in evangelical vernacular and honest enough to write music like this. Important work.
Me at 2:30: "Huh, I guess Derek Webb is writing cliche worship music now..."
Me at 3:40: "Oh."
Me at 4:10: Oh, God."
Me at the end: (crying)
Yeah, exactly. Like, holy crap what just happened.
It is amazing.
Whoa.
I didn’t understand what was going on with this album till I got here.
It’s heart wrenching; it’s deconstructing my beliefs; & it’s beautiful like a sunrise on a car wreck.
My low-key favorite part about this video is the 'CCLI #10415' at the bottom of the first screen. CCLI refers to 'Christian Copyright Licensing International' - if you search their record for 10415 you find nothing. However, if you consider that it may be a coded message that's when the fun begins. 5 numbers could refer to a Bible verse but it would have to be Psalms because that's the only book of the Bible with more than 100 chapters. Psalms 104:15 says: "and wine to gladden the heart of man, oil to make his face shine and bread to strengthen man's heart."
Derek is on another level, folks.
You know.. I think you just found an Easter Egg. i wouldn't put it past Derek. He loves to hide things in plain sight. …Psalm 104 v14: He causes the grass to grow for the cattle, And vegetation for the labor of man, So that he may bring forth food from the earth, 15And wine which makes man's heart glad, So that he may make his face glisten with oil, And food which sustains man's heart. 16The trees of the LORD drink their fill, The cedars of Lebanon which He planted,…
Holy shit. Brilliant. I mean, it was brilliant to begin with but...holy shit.
Very misleading. The actual CCLI number is 7098290.
Brian Estabrook did you ever consider during your convo with Christian Thomas that you were talking to Derek, I just watched the vid and was reading through convos looking for other clues like the ccli one you pointed out, read that one and seems pretty likely. Christian (doubting)Thomas?
@@kirs10michelle you misspelled spirit
Has a completely new meaning when you listen the second time, wow.
Derek, just wanted to say you articulated and satirized what I've felt about most christian music since I was a freshman in high school. I'm not even exaggerating when I say this is now one of my all-time favorite songs. Come to Orlando man. You got fans down here.
This sounds SO good and hurts so bad.
I feel like this song is designed to do one thing, & when that one thing works with me, I start to cry. Not for him, not even for me, but for us.
The Friesen meets the Freeman and they joined Luke forces.
Sobering
LOL
This is amazing. Pure genius.
I've been thinking about this song and it's meaning for the last 2 hours (despite of most worship songs). Only for that i'm already glad.
What a trip... I love it.
I'm very shaken by this
at the start I was like "huh I wonder why "you" isn't capitalized". I see now, I see now.
Classic Will L Me2..The end..
But are you stirred?
Such an incredible song Derek! I am digging this video as well.. Super creative
I would guess that it's the same old story: People who are always in control can't imagine what it's like to have something we can't control. And those of us who know we are powerless, apart from God, are amazed that there are those who always think they are in total control. The key word here being "think."
The album is a masterpiece, but you really missed an opportunity in this song to say something like "The greater the proof you provide the more I put my faith in you."
Mind blown
Oh my
The typical worship slide "reaching hands" background really takes on a hue of zombie-like desperation. We do often treat God like an amorphous anesthetic, and modern worship culture is our accomplice.
I love how not only does this song have a new meaning the second time around, but also it has a whole new meaning when one listens to the album, which itself has a whole new meaning the second time around.
Nice.
I laughed out loud for minutes when I fist heard the punchline. And then got choked up at all the parallels that were hiding in plain sight: Religion as with Alcohol: what a difference there is between seeking a little comfort and building a life in which nothing else matters.
In a single vulnerable metaphor, this song expresses three key messages:
1) For many people, religion is escapism,
2) Worship is ironically, but remarkably transferrable [insert idol here],
3) Alcohol, like religion, delivers in the short term, but in the extreme becomes self-reinforcing ... simultaneously quenching and exacerbating guilt and shame.
Throughout, its clever word play is poignant: the curse is born by the Holy spirit and by Spirits (alcohol). Every single lyric device here is coopted from familiar praise songs: everything from “quenching thirst” to being “stirred” to “only hope”. Moreover, now that Webb apparently no longer believes in God, it may not be accidental that both Alcohol and God are addressed in such personified ways.
Part of the brilliance of this song is how unexpected the punchline is, even if you know there’s got to be something "classic Derek" coming. This song, especially the reference to the curse, is best understood in the context of the whole album, but don't listen if you have things to do. It could wreck you in the very best way. I can only imagine how difficult it was to write this.
Ah, now the last two weeks is making more and more sense. Seen Aids and alcohol destroy my family in more ways then one, Derek. Hate'em both but not the people. I deconstructed in the 90s after seeing my brother die of Aids. Christ rebuilt it back. Hoping you figure things out brother prodigal.
“Whoever drinks beer, he is quick to sleep; whoever sleeps long, does not sin; whoever does not sin, enters Heaven! Thus, let us drink beer!” - Martin Luther
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1st Thouhts (months ago)
Wow, "we raise our voice we, we raise an offering, would you come near and quench our thirst" In the way, Derek sees the world in his mind's eye, this reminds me as the next step from CTRL. As if the character is looking back and forward at the same time, if we replace one word, you could likely have the next top "worship music" hit. DW doesn't do that, he turns the turns over a table and pours a drink for us to worsip together. I think his point (maybe) is that we worship all that is good, and Alcohol can be a part of that. I made me think that the "wedding" guests at the 1st miracle were singing this song.
2nd Thoughts (weeks ago)
DW wrote a song Set about the Trinity. If thats now Following Jesus, than I'm a fool..
DW talking to CBN Music Last Year "
"In a bigger sense, if we are diverse members of one body, which we are and we're told that we are, it speaks to a bigger issue. It would be arguably sinful for us to be a homogenous group of people, reaching the same conclusions on how to build the Kingdom that we're building together. If that's the case, if we are diverse members of one body, then it's no wonder that we bicker, fight, disagree and reach different conclusions.
The only reason we gather together is in order to be healed by Jesus because we are sinful and sick, and then to praise Him for the healing that He gives us. So if we know that, then we have to learn how to say these three phrases to each other. We have to be able to look at each other, our diverse brother and sisters, and say that we're wrong, we're sorry and that we love each other. If we can say these things to each other, then we can hopefully learn how to say these things to the rest of the world.~Dwebb talking to CBN music"
3rd Thoughts (yesterday)
I think it may be important to consider the wider context of this song. Nashville, where DW lives is a bar town. Lots of bars, lots of bar culture, famous country songs about bars and drinking. But, it is also a Church-town. Home to The Gathers, Brentwood, Word Records, Belmont. So what happens when Bar town and Church Town Collide? Some take sides, and some try to learn to wade the waters of both. ..So then you take Derek, the prism, he's reflecting his worldview from the corner booth. Maybe he straddles both, Bar and church, and does not know which provides more relief. Sometimes I'd rather be out with friends drinking than sitting in a pew. I get it. Over 10 years ago Derek revealed wedding dress at a bar concert. I don't know if it was the 1st time, but it was the 1st time I heard. it. He stood up to say you know what, I"m a "Hosea" (one of most screwy biblical characters IMO). And the church is selling itself like Gomer. It was shocking to the ears of the cookie cutter consumers I was a part of. We needed that shock. So now a generation later Derek from what I feel is saying. Alcohol is my curse, It brings him "freedom", but also 'weak knees" And his spirit bears this curse. I think the curse is that it's good and bad a the same time. "he calls out the only thing that delivers him" I think he is saying he knows this "curse" isn't holy but as Hosea had Gomers back, He has alcohols "back". It's a love / hate "I love you, I hate you" relationship. And maybe the fact that he feels he must straddle the Bar and the Church is the same curse. It's his curse. He can't be 100 % church, or 0% Bar. True faith straddles evil and good. We are both, were human . As Paul said "I have the right to do anything," you say--but not everything is beneficial. "I have the right to do anything"--but not everything is constructive. Derek can drink himself into a homless bum, or become a monk in a hill far away. either way, I see this also as an anthem of life. He is raising a glass to toast his life. -
More thoughts (today)
You took some mockingbird, sprinkled in some Stockholm syndrome, revisited feedback, added a taste of arcade fire.with a new future. Sonically I'm hooked. You've taken all I like about DW music and added enough pepper and brought it into a new era to make it a great vision of the future. I've written about the lyrics on the y-tube, (not going there now) THe acoustic sounds better than it has in years. I love the bass, the distortion, YOu have to listen to this on great speakers cranked on 11.This is not a mp3 ear bud song. There is a lot going on. Is this is the beginning to the Derek Rock Opera? If so , I'm ready for act 1,2, and 3. When it all comes in at the end. I don't know to shout or cry. Its Ethereal, Celestial, Honest yes, Futuristic, yes. awesome YES. Tribe Member, Yep. Still in the tribe since "LLOL"- peace JM
The truth of this song is profound. It is uncomfortable to listen to, especially as a Christian, but it is a good discomfort. In fact, if I may say so, it is...sobering.LOL
As a professional addiction recovery counselor, I can affirm that, indeed, alcohol is not a problem. It is a solution. Rejection, resentment, anger, bitterness, shame, guilt, pain (physical or otherwise) are realities in all of our lives and we have all found ways to cope with them. Check yourself. It is there. Some ways of coping are more prominent than others (i.e. drugs, alcohol, promiscuity), but we all do it. Religion can most certainly be a way to cope. However, God (however you define God) refuses to be a coping mechanism. It is often interesting to me how a genuine pursuit of God, more often than not will lead a person inward toward the pain. Because the first place an honest pursuit of God will take you, is to the image of God inside of you. And it is from that image of God within us that we seek to hide (see the story of Adam and Eve from Genesis).
The Rich Young Ruler, in the Gospels, asks what he must do to inherit the Kingdom of God. Jesus' response is to point to that which was already placed there. Jesus correctly identifies that this man is using religiosity to cope (another word for covering over or masking). So when Jesus tells him to get rid of the things in his life that he uses to cope in order to find life, the man walks away sad. This is too hard. Too real.
This song makes a Rich young ruler of us all. We (Christians) find ourselves drawn to the rhetoric, because its what is familiar to us. We place in to the song, our own subject of reverence. I was drawn in, personally, the first time I heard it. To be honest, I felt comforted that he appeared to be singing about God (he was in a way). The final ecstatic call out to the subject of desire was shocking. It caused me to re examine everything I had just heard. Like the Rich Young Ruler, I had come in to the song with an expectation of comfort and affirmation of myself. It made the ending that much more eye opening to think that I had related so easily to a worship song about alcohol. It made me so uncomfortable. It showed me that I have placed so much trust and comfort and coping mechanisms in to a form of religiosity and a particular vernacular, that I would blindly give myself to anything that took that same form.
I have been ever so slowly learning how to stop coping and start finding the source of pain and, from there, begin healing. That is the only way that anyone can uncover the image of God within them. Instead of Beings with any sort of substance, we are seeking ways to become Ghosts by constantly hiding in plain sight. But it is a completely pointless endeavor. We are trying to hide from something that is within us. So we go and go, moving from one solution to the next. Alcohol and food and religion and relationships and pornography and lying and drugs and gambling and many, many more. These are ALL ways to convince ourselves that we can't be seen. We are all little children who believe that by covering our own eyes, no one else can see us.
You saucy bih.
This makes me sad.
I like how this fan group comments section is respectful enough not to ruin the punchline
My dad really loved the Beatles. He trained me in them. He fed them to me like vitamins when I was young. And he always thought the White Album was the Beatles writing like the Beach Boys, or Dylan, or whoever, just to show they could do that too, if they felt like it. I don’t know Derek but I’ve always loved and been inspired by his music. My take is: Derek can write a song. He can write a worship song if he feels like it. And he did. And just because he assigned it to alcohol at the end doesn’t mean it isn’t a worship song. Especially with the whole play on words with spirit. If anything it’s a MORE HONEST worship song bc it is saying: this is where I am right now God. And I appreciate it bc I think it is where a lot of people are right now.
I could totally fill in a word like pornography in my case.. Thankfully I'm starting to see an end at my tunnel, and artists like Derek do help me to stay sharp. I guess.
🤞
Fucking Brilliant sir.
The song that knocks "Wedding Dress" on its ass. The comments have been very entertaining as well, lively debate and conversation about an instantly provocative song.
Love it! Thought provoking, controversial, beautiful.
Folks, I can’t take it anymore. He’s pulling your leg. In the same way he pulled mine (except on opposite ends of the spectrum). This song, and it’s video are meant to show the very unique and washed out “thing” people call worship music in churches that don’t know what gospel music is..
On its flip side it’s meant to show what becomes of those unique cases left behind Just on the outskirts of such religious gathering places.
Aka the estranged songwriter who loves god but hates the people associated with them (yes god is a they/them because they explicitly said so in the text)
He Loves music and his own self
And loves to challenge those around him with REALITY as his ultimate weapon.
this song is an expose to all y’all coming out here hard for Christ. We see youre trying to figure this out. Fact is; this is a man taking on the world. You are left behind. See ya on the flippity flip, I’m bored... GOODNIGHT.
This is so sad.
"Come, everyone who thirsts, come to the waters; and he who has no money, come, buy and eat! Come, buy wine and milk without money and without price. Why do you spend your money for that which is not bread, and your labor for that which does not satisfy? Listen diligently to me, and eat what is good, and delight yourselves in rich food." - Isaiah 55:1-2
Todd Weedman totally agree with you... It's like watching a plane slowly crashing
The first shall be laaast...
Was not expecting to see this comment here... Is there no escape??
It's a sad song because it is true for a lot of people. I can visualize my alcoholic family members singing this sing as they "raise an offering" after beating my cousins, it makes the song way less cute.
Originally, I was expecting an album much like the one you released, given the things I've seen/heard since your last album leading up to this one. This was the first track I checked out from the album, and originally I turned it off after just the first verse, "disappointed" (so to speak) that it was just a generic worship song.
Worship leaders, the CCLI # in this is incorrect.
The actual number is #7098290. I don't want you to get sued by Mr. Webb.
Worship leaders...run. Run from this message. Seek the Holy Spirit. Derek's heart is just as broken as mine and yours. Only one is worthy.
I don't think too many worship leaders will be adding this one to their set any time soon...
Not sure why you would delete my comment on your video a few weeks ago. But whatever. I would never delete or discount you. So AGAIN, I hope you are doing well.
Could be a tumor LOL 'i've never been so sure of anything, but then again it could be a tumor in my brain" DW
anyone else hear “welcome home” at 3:56? creepy double meaning there… i didn’t even realize what he was really saying until i saw it typed out
I suspect the distortion was intentional, a way of delaying the reveal a bit longer.
"Give strong drink to the one who is perishing,
and wine to those in bitter distress;
let them drink and forget their poverty
and remember their misery no more." - Proverbs 31:6-7
"And when they came to a place called Golgotha (which means Place of a Skull),
they offered him wine to drink, mixed with gall, but when he tasted it, he would not drink it." - Matthew 27:33-34
Christ refused to allow his misery on the cross to be dulled. He gave himself no mercy, and by doing so, mercy has been given to us. I'm quite sure this is not the intended feeling this song is meant to illicit, but nonetheless, it's what I'm was drawn to consider....
This song caused me to re-think how generic & white-washed our Evangelical Church's "worship" songs often are. You've done it again, Derek...causing your listeners to think outside the stained glass.
I feel less like it’s commentary on the church or even worship music and more about the danger of idolatry and the most common form of it in modern US culture. I know for me that is how it hit home
edgy
Demonstrates how bad modern so called worship music is.
Im just sad that heresy is the spirit of the age. If only Derek was preaching and not partaking in all the shenanigans. Everyone is a child of God, but we are called to change into a new creature (the transformation is not earthly)
Creative, honest,, and leading to a black void of satire and nihilism. Perhaps the author can find a middle ground between the cheesy culture of feel good worship rhyming couplets and embracing despair, with all hope in Gods love an evangelical cliche. Read Tolstoy - he destroys the shallowness of his characters only to rebuild them in a more solid, deeper kind of maturity after suffering and loss.
Buy the album and buy him more alcohol. He sounds like he really needs deliverance.