When I watch a Daniel Greene video, I feel like I'm a National Geographic guy observing a natural phenomenon of positive madness in its natural habitat, and honestly I ain't even mad
Authors need to understand that they are inviting criticism by publishing their work… “To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing,” as Elbert Hubbard said!
I maintain that critics need to be able to handle criticism of their criticism. I also think authors can objectively look bad by being too touchy about criticisms. I think the author can gently address criticism without being disrespectful towards the critic
I couldn’t imagine taking criticism toxicly. I just crumple into a little ball of panic when anyone even implies that I maybe might have just slightly offended someone.
Gotta distinguish between "taking actual criticism badly" from "lashing out at people who set out to hurt your feelings". Ideally we want to avoid both, but they're very different things.
I know this is probably controversial, but someone critiquing an aspect of a book is fine and good. Some reviewers can be a little harsh, but if you ask them to explain why they feel that way, you'll usually figure out whether they're doing it to spite you or because it's an actual issue. Then you can choose to walk away with the proper mindset. Now if someone attacks the author of a book they don't like rather than the work, that's where we need to draw lines. At least that's where I will. Call my future books what you will, but if you say that I'm a garbage author with no skill who should quit because my work is "awful and irredeemable" with no specific reasons, then that's just being rude.
I imagine it would have been hard as a book reviewer to, with a serious tone, provide literary criticism for Ernest Hemingway, knowing full well this is a man that stole a urinal from his local pub 😐
Remember that one author a month or two ago who flipped her lid on twitter when her new book 'only' got 4 stars on Goodreads? I lay awake and think about it sometimes.
@@MeTaLISaWeSoMe95 But now you run into the problem with the definition of the word that a bunch of politically obsessed morons created. "Power plus privilege", which make no sense at all. Or hatred towards a person based on their race?
Totally agree with you, criticism is a part of writing. When I ask people to read my W.I.P I always ask for brutal honesty in their feedback. This is the only way for me to grow and build the character arcs, plotting and flow.
I would be too chicken to even call out someone, because of the backlash and people are scary on social media. Social Media just gives people too much of an opportunity to be an asshole to someone without having to face them and embarrassing someone in front of more people, even those you have no connection to whatsoever. I love your intros btw!
My mother is an NYT Bestselling romance author. Every time she gets a review of her book, she retweets it on Twitter, even if it's bad. Those tend to get a "Thank you for the review, sorry you didn't like it" type of caption, sometimes a "You'll probably prefer [book from different author], instead." Fans and other writers tend to really respect that attitude.
The flip side of “taking criticism personally” is “making criticism personal” - not just like calling someone a moron, but also anchoring your arguments to statements like “…and if you don’t accept this, that’s on YOU.”
When you described that author´s reactions, that sounded so much like Terry Goodkind that I had to go check his Wikipedia page because I thought I remembered he had died. I did not enjoy the revelation that there is another person with an ego that big.
Damm Like, last week i was watching Daniel's video on him and laughing at his big ego and notable imaturity I feel kinda guilty now y'know The man died and will be remembered as the writer with 0 self awareness
I will say, I find it immensely enjoyable when an author savages a critic who didn't bother to read their book, but instead chose to make blanket assumptions based on the author's views and beliefs, or reads the book, but interprets it entirely through that lens. On the whole it's still not a good thing, but it can be entertaining as hell. One doesn't (typically) get published without being something of a wordsmith, and such takedowns are goldmines for clever insults.
For everyone not caught up on the drama and don't know who this video is about, here's the full amazon bio of the author in question. The whole thing. It's long, but worth it if you like having a good laugh. Probably more entertaining than anything else he's ever written. (all typos are his. not mine) "A note about the ongoing twitterstorm by intolerant, enraged cultural marxists--it was all triggered by using the word "eggplant" to describe a body part, because describing women in a sensual way is no longer "politically correct". Women are geniuses (Rey), they can do everything (Rey), but they are not to be described as sensual, ever. That's why they wants me censored or shut down. If it can happen to me, it can happen to you, my friends, and with the constantly shifting goalposts in political correctness, don't think it won't. An open letter to my fellow scifi/fantasy writers. Dear, dear friends: You are awful. All of you. (Yes, ALL OF YOU!) Please do not take it personally. But someone has to tell you this, and it might as well be me. You suffer from three key deficits: LACK OF IMAGINATION, LACK OF EMPATHY, and LACK OF SELF-AWARENESS. First, your lack of IMAGINATION. 99% of scifi/fantasy novels can be categorized as follows: a) "Hip", "Modern Day" Fantasy: "diverse" teenagers with magical powers fighting vampires in urban settings. b) Teenagers suffering deprivation in a post-nuclear wasteland; c) The so-called "epic" fantasy novel, with "world building" expecting you to learn the history of hundreds of characters, castles, cities and taverns like a History of Art exam. d) Everyone fighting World War II again, in outer space; and e) "Hard" scifi, with 500 pages of hand wringing and mental _asturbation about a transmission from an alien sphere (or... if you're feeling imaginative... an alien cube!). Not only are these topics very, very trite, but your rendition of them is even worse. You're like a bad photocopy machine making worse and worse copies which themselves are bad copies of other copies. Furthermore, the very dim lightbulb in your head is only bright enough to generate one idea (at most). So if you start out writing stories about Unicorns refighting WW II in outer space, ALL your stories will undoubtedly be about Unicorns refighting WW II in outer space. But, to make it last, you chop it up into nine or ten books with numbers in the title, each of them 250 pages long in big double space print. Maybe in one novel the Unicorn will have a battleship instead of a battlecruiser. Maybe in another the Unicorn will be wearing a funky helmet. But at its base, it will all be the same story. Hence your LACK OF IMAGINATION. Now for your lack of EMPATHY. People are easy to please. Really easy. We are all wired to sympathize and empathize with others. That's why we get such a thrill over "shipping", stories of complete strangers having a romance with each other. All you have to do is create characters which are real, relatable, and interesting, and readers will be hooked. It's in our very nature; it's like shooting fish in a barrel. Unfortunately, you can't even find the barrel. Your characters are all two dimensional, put on this Earth to fulfill a quest. They are little more than video game avatars. Characters are defined by being multifaceted and their relationships to others. But you are clueless about this. You have no idea how to write characters that are interesting to people. All your characters are wooden, or worse, unpleasant, or EVEN WORSE, virtue whores. I'd love for my best friend to be very virtuous, kind, wise, and understanding. But I'd fall asleep reading a book about him. People don't want to read about kind best friends. They want to read about James Bond, Gandalf, and Mr. Spock, characters that are multifaceted and unusual. You don't even have the faintest idea how to create such characters. (relating back to your LACK OF IMAGINATION). Lastly, and most importantly, you lack SELF-AWARENESS. And what do I mean by that? You lack the self-awareness to write stories which are entertaining. If you were to verbally tell someone a story, would you spend ten minutes describing a house or a barn, or what a room full of people were wearing, eating or drinking? Probably not, but you do see pages and pages of this kind of drek in scifi/fantasy novels all the time. My eyes glaze over such things, and I suspect many readers' do too. The other most common sin writers are guilty of is character bloat, larding their stories with dozens, hundreds, or even thousands of characters, in the belief that populating their world so specifically makes their "world building" feel more "authentic". It doesn't. It only confuses your readers. But you don't have the self-awareness to realize it. Tell me, dear friends, when you write a page of dialog, do you ever go back and ask yourself if that page was entertaining, if people might ever want to reread that page even after reading it once? No, you never do. For you, dialog is simply something mechanical, to simply advance the plot, a means to an end rather than an end in itself. Or worse, for many of you, it's simply pages and pages of mindless small-talk, filler to reach your page count. And that's why your writing is painfully stiff and pedantic. So you write a story where nothing much happens, or maybe a lot happens, but either way you miss the primary point of the story itself--to show a series of dramatic effects on the main characters. Whether your story is "See Jim fly to the stars!" or "Watch Enrique and the Space Marines fight the aliens!" or "Sarah and Johnnie have to get back to the vault before the zombies wake up!", you miss the point of what makes a novel entertaining entirely. It's all about drama. Drama is not merely about things happening to characters, although things do happen to characters. Drama is where characters react to things happening to them in a way that provokes change and reaction from characters. But you can't understand that, because you lack self-awareness. Most of your books are about PROCESSES, as if you were writing a physics or sociology textbook. World building should be in service to character drama, not the other way around. Most of you spend so much time talking about the minutiae of "how" that you lose sight of drama between characters, which is what drives every story. We don't need to know how hyperdrive or the unicorn kingdom works, we just need to know enough to create a story for characters to interact in. Unfortunately, you have trained readers to expect bad writing. Readers now EXPECT they will have to plow through hundreds of pages of drek to get to a real story. You have TRAINED them to expect to struggle with your books to try to squeeze some relatable drama from it, and that is why I hate you the most, because you have crapified an entire field of literature. People have come to not only expect your drek, but to demand it! And so when people, exposed only to a lifetime of your drek, stumble across my books like desert travelers to an oasis, their first reaction is often to blink rapidly and say "What Dat?" Even from the covers, people can tell my books are different. They don't have meaningless one or two word titles like "Hard Impact" or "Final Conflict" and pictures of tiny stick figures in shadows that look like mannequins surrounded by random explosions. My book descriptions don't have any of the ten buzz phrases people are accustomed to seeing in a book description which say everything and nothing ("full of twists and turns which will keep you glued to your seat!") And my books are about many different topics. As a result, my books will never be as popular as yours. People want predictability. They want same-ness. They want books with numbers in the title. They feel a fantasy novel can only be "epic" if it's hard to understand and a struggle to read. They want their WW II stories to be filled with stories of grunting space marines firing laser machine guns and throwing laser grenades on enemy positions. They want to read story after story after story about America turned into a desert wasteland filled with zombie mutants. My stories, on the other hand, simply confuse them. They are about many different topics. There are no laser machine guns blazing away in page after page of meaningless battles between characters we have no reason to care about. My characters definitely are not politically correct. They may not even believe in man-made global warming or fifty four genders. Even WORSE, women are actually attracted to men in my stories and they are not always fighting gender wars with each other (which infuriates the cultural marxists, because to show a sensual woman, in their mind, is to degrade her--women are only to be portrayed from the neck up, in their new unbending manifesto). And that is why I will never sell as many books as you do. Thanks so much for that, by the way. You should feel proud that you have lowered an entire genre to mediocrity. It amazes me that I see all these things I describe above and none of you... none of you do. It's like living on a planet of blind painters, and I'm the only one whose noticed that you ran out of paint a long, long time ago."
Also want to make it clear that the part about eggplants is, in fact, about a passage in one of his books where he says that a lady's breasts have the shape of eggplants. Which is... not the first vegetable I would use to describe boobs? And also not the first sensual description using eggplants i would think of...
Michael Crichton hated a critic so badly, he added the critic to a novel of his for the simple reason of making fun of him and insulting him. He got away with this without the critic suiting, because Michael Crichton made mention that the character had a small penis, and that prevented the critic from suiting because suiting him for adding him as a character in his book, would have forced the critic to admit that he in fact had a small penis. It was brilliant.
Great video, HobGobDaniel! See, this is the wonderful balance between subjectivity and objectivity. People are allowed to feel (like or dislike) whatever story they want, but at the same time, a story’s quality will be a constant: it will always be as good or bad as it ever has been or ever will be. That should give writers both a sense of “let me work hard to write a good book,” and a sense of comfort!
@@liamfairbanks4861 How about a ridiculously large, Cloud of Final Fantasy sword? With the mic on the pommel so he has to tilt his head up each time he wants to talk into it.
I love criticism. Hearing "it's good!" Doesnt help with my writing! Why is it good? Do you feel I could improve? Who, to you, should I read to help inspire such improvements? Give me good criticism. Not just say "oh wow it's really good", that ain't helping me! Well helps my ego but then I'll get lol'd in a false sense of confidence.
Honestly I take any kind of criticism VERY personally and I feel really insecure when I’m criticized BUT I’ve learned to hold it together till I’m in private then I cry but I don’t say anything on social media or to that person’s face. My volleyball coach in eighth grade had a rule that if she did something you didn’t like or if you were cut wait 24 hours then contact her so you had time to relax and pull yourself together.
I used to be a fairly active webcomic creator. I remember one negative review I got and I still to this day think they misunderstood what the comic was, assuming it had a much younger readership than it actually did. I was honestly a little annoyed, so I get where the frustration can come from, but I didn't try to argue with that reviewer. I thanked them for giving the time to go through my whole archive to write that review and then secretly hoped to myself that nobody would read it. The sites hosting both the comic and the review are long gone now, btw. I don't even remember the reviewer's name at this point, so I don't mind talking about it. At the time though? I kept those thoughts to myself and a couple of close friends I knew wouldn't do anything about it.
You have quickly become one of my favorite people. I started reading again while in Hawaii last month; read beowulf while there. Got home read the hobbit now I'm 100 pages into dragonbone chair. You remind me a lot of Ethan Becker; aggressively wholesome is the game I like to be apart of.
That point on negative reviews helping is so true! I've read reviews before that have been negative where the reviewer says they didn't like that the thing did, for example, some trope or another and I've looked at that thinking "this reviewer didn't like it but that trope is my jam I'd probably be interested." Or alternatively it's been something that I won't mind while the positive reviews point out things I'm interested in.
I'm terrible at taking criticism. I end up fuming all day and it ruins me. Then I start imagining scenarios where I own them some way or another. It ends up being super unproductive. But even I have the self-control not to engage with my critics, DM them, harass them, etc! That's a win for them and a loss for me!
I think authors should not respond to critics or reviewers PERIOD. Unless they thank the reviewers for reviewing or critiquing or something. Because at the end of they day they are just people on the internet and YOU are the one with the product, the fanbase, and the reputation to protect.
I learned a long time ago to not take criticism personally, regardless on how it's given. Criticisms are just opinions, some are valid, some may not be. I learned that if I look at criticism in an objective way I can often find ways to improve even from poorly delivered criticism. This of course means that alot of honest self reflection must be done.
If someone is just insulting, without giving any worthwile critique (e.g. "this sucks, you am bad!") ... thosr people aren't worth your time. If they offer actual points ("you am bad, because this plot is cluttered and nonsensical"), then one can atleast start to get something out of it
Hey man, don't take it personally. For some of us, having our parents pretend to love us was the closest we ever got to parents. You don't get to choose your parents. Honestly though, I deeply appreciate what you do on this channel. Thank you, Daniel. Plenty of us choose to love you, and that means more.
@@ChristmasLore I feel for you, they sound like garbage people. But we shouldn't put any stock in the people we get by genetic lottery. Nobody gets to choose their blood kin. The good news is that we do get to choose the people who are in our lives outside of them. We get to have a chosen family. Plus, we CAN (eventually) choose to NOT have them in our lives. I've claimed half a state as my territory and my blood kin are not allowed to live within it. I have found that having a buffer of a few hundred miles between us does wonders for my general enjoyment of life.
@@avsambart I think you romanticize us too much, but thank you for the compliment. Some of us get really salty, but I don't take many things personally.
You are an absolutely, unmitigated, uncontested - beyond a shadow of the deepest darkest hell of doubt - a wonderful guy. And I hope you fester away in a pool of never ending success.
Again dropping prescient advice based on careful loving insight delivered out of the side of your mouth while restraining a scream, your passion is compelling Daniel and your content is substantial. Well said.
The fans are killing art. The evidence is all around. Artists of almost all mediums have been compromised, at best, and driven to quit at worst. If you don't like someone's art, stay away from it, but no one has the right to tell anyone else how to create. Make your own, if you have a problem.
To be fair, if you're bordering on or being full on insulting, then don't be suprised an author's gonna get defensive. People will not listen to you if you attack them. Same goes for debates.
I do sometimes worry about very conscientious creators taking on board *too much* criticism. Well, it takes a lot of critical thinking to try and figure out why exactly someone doesn't like a book, and whether it is something that is worth changing, or whether it is really just an artistic choice and/or disagreement about what makes a story 'good' in the first place. When it comes to craft, there are probably still things you can learn, and it's well worth considering these criticisms and trying to understand where it comes from. But you'll also get criticism from people who weren't really part of your target audience to begin with. If you try to appeal to everyone, you may end up sacrificing more than you gain. I guess I'm worried that talented creators, in an effort to become more popular, might inadvertently water down the unique voice that could have brought them success.
I hate this channel because I can only subscribe once and can only place a single like per video. Otherwise, it's a majestic item of perfection on this platform.
I like to think that somewhere out there there’s an author that made a really complicated book and realized it’s really complicated/hard to understand so he/she spent a lot of time trying to clarify things and everyone’s just like “no no no. it’s all right, we just don’t get it”
Helpful video, even for those not in publishing. I will make a suggestion: the number one rule should be to not threaten someone with severe bodily harm and/death. I know that can be folded into rule #2, "don't sic your audience on the critic," but I feel it's a significant enough difference to be it's own rule.
I'm just a hobby author so I have no idea what it would be like to get hundreds of criticisms but I have an honest question. What would a critique look like that changes your writing? For me - I know what I want to write in my book and if I don't want it, I don't write it so I don't know what a critique could say that makes me go "I never considered that! I will change that about my work!". The only reason an author would change how he writes is (and maybe I'm overlooking something) that he can sell more books because more people like it when it's written differently. But I wouldn't assume that writers are in it for the money, for the most part at least.
Very true! But criticism should also be respectful. Saying, 'I didn't like the book' or 'this plot element is a little weak' is a criticism that needs to be respected, even reflected upon. Saying 'this book is garbage from a terrible author' really isn't. It's just mean behaviour
As an aspiring writer, and one who suffers from RSD (Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria) I'm terrified of having to deal with criticism. On one hand, I understand that part of being a writer means having your work critiqued, and that listening to criticism is the best way to improve. On the other hand, people on the internet are cruel and I get upset if I get even the sense that someone is remotely disappointed in me. It's a tightrope walk for sure.
Negative reviews as good publicly is so true. There are people who I only read things they don't like (and typically avoid things they like). You really need both positive and negative. That's what Good taught me ;)
The intro… the FIT! THIS is the Internet I signed up for! But yeah. I know the Internet is a different beast and people can be unnecessarily cruel with their critique, but I actually get a little anxious if I haven’t had ANY constructive criticism at work in a while. 🤷♀️
Just because one person doesn't like a piece of literature doesn't mean others will feel the same. I personally really don't like Outlander, but I have a lot of family members and friends who became obsessed. I enjoy looking at negative reviews for books I love because it lets me look more critically at the book, and enjoy it that much more. Embrace the criticism, accept it, and grow! Writing in itself is a labor of love.
As someone who didn't love Breach of Peace as much as I hoped I would - every time I hear you talk about the response and how you are using that to improve, I cannot wait for book 2! Holy Run on sentence Batman
Don quixote really blew up after the author died i think too. Pretty sure the picture of dorian gray. Which was revieved negative for the author too. Mozard i think, as artist , was disliked a lot. Drakula and journey to the west?! Who were controvertial?! That would be to look up,a video?!
Im not just saying this because Im a Malazan fanboy but Erikson's "Rant" on characterization is probably the best example of an author responding to criticism that Im aware of, he may have come across as a little condescending during the post, but whats most important is that he focussed on the criticism, not the critics. So many people seem to develop a personal vindictiveness towards their critics whether its through generalizing anyone who dosent like their work or singling out and targeting individuals. It was great to see an author arguing against the actual points critics were trying to make rather than them as people.
There is another time when "fuck those people" is the correct attitude: when a review attacks the author personally instead of the work. Of course, the author has to be able to identify those accurately and not take criticism of the work as personal.
This is actually a skill of the modern creative world, and not one everyone naturally has. Some psychologist could probably make a fortune creating a course to emotionally cope well while sorting useful criticism from personal attacks/feedback that can't be used constructively, because while I do think authors now have the responsibility to do this, oof, I get that it's hard.
Honestly, if anything, I'd apologise to the critic for them not enjoying my work, I'd ask them for tips for the future and thank them for taking the time. That's the best you can do IF you wanna get into contact with them in the first place.
The intensity of this video is on a whole different level, I found myself furiously agreeing to everything while feeling very attacked at the same time. Not sure how I feel right now but I know I ain't mad lol.
One of two things I've noticed with insults from people in terms of criticism. The first one is people have baseless criticism because they are expressing their upset anger over something else and or they're trying to gain attention. And the second one is that they actually have a real criticism that can be addressed utilizing the material at hand whether or not someone understands something or if there's even a pothole the original author doesn't actually see because let's face it sometimes people think differently than others. In the first case being as I'm not an author but someone who has been on the receiving end of insults / criticism I like reading these from unintelligible to incredibly clever. The more clever someone is the more credit I give them. I make it a rule not to get into it in the comment section with people if they're in the unintelligible section. And I'm not above posting articles to people if they really want to get into a discussion about something. People can understand things better but a really clever criticism is just really funny and can actually brighten one's day if you break it down to what it really is.
let's be honest, it's easier to critique something than creating it. But I think these weird responses to critique are probably associated with a hard time differentiating their work from themselves. Your worth is not related to what you produce even if it's to the absolute best of your abilities. Because there is some fragility in failing from maximum effort compared to framing it as a practice piece or having experienced some more into a creative career. It's actually a very introspective topic & one I think a lot about. /All the best ^^ Edit; Broken English
Yeah, critics do need to be willing to admit that their criticism's might be objectively bad as well. Writing a review is a creative work, and some people suck at it.
As a university professor. It’s quite disappointing that so many 18-25 year olds cannot take criticism when it comes to anything, whether it is writing, statistics, etc. even when I was industry and had to give verbal warnings or written warnings to staff that are coaching opportunities. It’s quite sad that in today’s society people are just awful and taking any time of constructive criticism or even just suggestion for edits in an ungraded rough draft.
As responses to criticism go, how do you rate Kendrick Lamar putting Geraldo Rivera's criticism as the intro to a music video immediately followed by the lyrics "fuck your life"?
To crawl over a green screen while wearing a beanie and screaming is a totally normal way to start a video Daniel
It's the brand
@@DanielGreeneReviews And a little ASMR session at the end, too. God I love this channel so much.
@@DanielGreeneReviews and that’s why we love you
@@DanielGreeneReviews Whenever you start with the greenscreen we know the vid gonna be great lol
I thought that you would do a list of authors comments and react to them.
When I watch a Daniel Greene video, I feel like I'm a National Geographic guy observing a natural phenomenon of positive madness in its natural habitat, and honestly I ain't even mad
👍👍
Remember that one Australian guy hanging around crocodiles? Yeah.
💯 watching a disheveled goblin in it's natural habitat
@@shiitagi RIP Steve Irwin🙏
"This sign can't stop me because I can't read."
~A lot of people, apparently
if they can write but cannot read it implies they never read their own work, which actually explains a lot
@@DeeSnow97 But if they can't read then how can they be sure they wrote what they wanted ?
@@JeRefuseDeBienPrononcerBaleine are you sure they do, I think a lot of them don't do that either.
Authors need to understand that they are inviting criticism by publishing their work… “To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing,” as Elbert Hubbard said!
Thank you for that gem
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I edited my comment to add a comma and the heart from Daniel disappeared 😭 That’s tragic.
@bluewater it's not meant to work, it's saying you can't ever avoid criticism. Obviously if you comprehend the words you aren't nothing.
The name “Elbert” tricked my peanut brain to think of Albert Einstein
I maintain that critics need to be able to handle criticism of their criticism. I also think authors can objectively look bad by being too touchy about criticisms. I think the author can gently address criticism without being disrespectful towards the critic
Yup!
@@DanielGreeneReviews you the man DG, keep up the good work and congrats on your book
These intros just keep getting weirder and I love it
Give the people what they want
Lmaoo
It's a survival instinct to get more viewers now that Brandon is also a book tuber. Author eat author world, baby.
Getting some serious hbomberguy vibes
Big Goblin Energy
I couldn’t imagine taking criticism toxicly. I just crumple into a little ball of panic when anyone even implies that I maybe might have just slightly offended someone.
And this right here is a good person
What you just said offended me deeply...
@@2CSST2 You being offended deeply offends me deeperly
I am offended that you are that weak.
I'm just offended by society
"Just a personal thing, I don't think harassment is good."
Blistering take, Daniel my man.
Lol, read it as it happened
I wish people disliked my book. Because that would mean I'd actually finished writing it at last.
Your book sucks because it’s not a complete book.
I feel personly attacked becuse I'm in this comment somewhere and I don't like it.
Oof 💀😂
Roses are red, Daniels are green. Writers gets critiques, and their comments are mean.
Best comment ever
So much creativity!
@@justagirl... haha thanks!!
@@subodhgarg5531 x)!
The Goblin is strong in this intro. It's appreciated, great clan leader
Gotta distinguish between "taking actual criticism badly" from "lashing out at people who set out to hurt your feelings". Ideally we want to avoid both, but they're very different things.
I know this is probably controversial, but someone critiquing an aspect of a book is fine and good. Some reviewers can be a little harsh, but if you ask them to explain why they feel that way, you'll usually figure out whether they're doing it to spite you or because it's an actual issue. Then you can choose to walk away with the proper mindset.
Now if someone attacks the author of a book they don't like rather than the work, that's where we need to draw lines. At least that's where I will. Call my future books what you will, but if you say that I'm a garbage author with no skill who should quit because my work is "awful and irredeemable" with no specific reasons, then that's just being rude.
I imagine it would have been hard as a book reviewer to, with a serious tone, provide literary criticism for Ernest Hemingway, knowing full well this is a man that stole a urinal from his local pub 😐
He was a strange person haha
Honestly, his take of criticism aside, his weirdness is the most interesting thing about him.
Imagine how humanity would have been elevated if Marcel Duchamp's "fontaine" had in fact been a urinal stolen from a pub by Ernest Hemingway?
Never heard that one before, kinda baller 😀
@@DanielGreeneReviews let's be honest you have to be strange to be a mad genius and the guy was mad Ernest stole his favorite urinal
Remember that one author a month or two ago who flipped her lid on twitter when her new book 'only' got 4 stars on Goodreads? I lay awake and think about it sometimes.
If I remember correctly, she claimed people would only give her less than 5 stars because of ... misogyny
Don't we all.
Ahhh. i can't unsee your Adam's apple now. That criticism. It stings.
Daniel's progressively getting weirder and more entertaining with his intros and outros and I'm here for it
We’re rapidly approaching hbomberguy territory...
Hmmm we're criticizing an author criticizing his critics....I love this 😂
There's something far worse to a writer than bad reviews. No reviews. That's like shouting into the void and not getting an echo.
The perfect microphone stand
This video appeared as a result of me searching "Shadiversity is bad", I have no idea why but I don't regret pressing on it.
Same....
Me too 😅
That outfit is perfect for this vid
I want chill yet crazy
@@DanielGreeneReviews and comfy
DO NOT call your critics racist or sexist because they don't like your piece. This isn't just for books, but media in general.
The only time to do that is when theu are OPENLY racist or sexist. Interpreting all criticism of you as racist or sexist is the problem.
@@MeTaLISaWeSoMe95 But now you run into the problem with the definition of the word that a bunch of politically obsessed morons created. "Power plus privilege", which make no sense at all. Or hatred towards a person based on their race?
I burst out laughing at "how did you get in touch with my family?" The timing, the delivery, and the face, it was all just perfect
I am genuinely concerned for the wellbeing of your green screen, but still have to applaud your creativity to crawl over it!
Totally agree with you, criticism is a part of writing. When I ask people to read my W.I.P I always ask for brutal honesty in their feedback.
This is the only way for me to grow and build the character arcs, plotting and flow.
I would be too chicken to even call out someone, because of the backlash and people are scary on social media. Social Media just gives people too much of an opportunity to be an asshole to someone without having to face them and embarrassing someone in front of more people, even those you have no connection to whatsoever. I love your intros btw!
My mother is an NYT Bestselling romance author. Every time she gets a review of her book, she retweets it on Twitter, even if it's bad. Those tend to get a "Thank you for the review, sorry you didn't like it" type of caption, sometimes a "You'll probably prefer [book from different author], instead." Fans and other writers tend to really respect that attitude.
That response or just saying nothing is probably the best way to handle it
The flip side of “taking criticism personally” is “making criticism personal” - not just like calling someone a moron, but also anchoring your arguments to statements like “…and if you don’t accept this, that’s on YOU.”
When you described that author´s reactions, that sounded so much like Terry Goodkind that I had to go check his Wikipedia page because I thought I remembered he had died.
I did not enjoy the revelation that there is another person with an ego that big.
I second this
wait what terry goodkind died?????????????????????????????
@@mattheusfinco7050 yup... didn't you know?
@@mattheusfinco7050 - yeah, last September according to Wikipedia, no cause or circumstances given.
Damm
Like, last week i was watching Daniel's video on him and laughing at his big ego and notable imaturity
I feel kinda guilty now y'know
The man died and will be remembered as the writer with 0 self awareness
I will say, I find it immensely enjoyable when an author savages a critic who didn't bother to read their book, but instead chose to make blanket assumptions based on the author's views and beliefs, or reads the book, but interprets it entirely through that lens. On the whole it's still not a good thing, but it can be entertaining as hell. One doesn't (typically) get published without being something of a wordsmith, and such takedowns are goldmines for clever insults.
This is the most writery Daniel has ever looked.
He's giving me blonde Daniel Radcliffe in that one scene where Daniel Radcliffe is very disheveled in his bathrobe and slippers, holding a gun.
I’ve only just watched this once, but this is a S-Tier Daniel video in terms of energy.
"They don't get me!"
Yeah but, as an author, aren't you supposed to make your audience get you?
These people...
Best response to criticism “ well it’s not like you were gonna buy multiple copies anyway. But hey check out the next book maybe I’ll have improved”
I wish I had the self-confidence of these authors to proclaim such thing
Be happy that you don’t. Its better to not be known, than to be known for the wrong reasons.
For everyone not caught up on the drama and don't know who this video is about, here's the full amazon bio of the author in question. The whole thing. It's long, but worth it if you like having a good laugh. Probably more entertaining than anything else he's ever written. (all typos are his. not mine)
"A note about the ongoing twitterstorm by intolerant, enraged cultural marxists--it was all triggered by using the word "eggplant" to describe a body part, because describing women in a sensual way is no longer "politically correct". Women are geniuses (Rey), they can do everything (Rey), but they are not to be described as sensual, ever. That's why they wants me censored or shut down. If it can happen to me, it can happen to you, my friends, and with the constantly shifting goalposts in political correctness, don't think it won't.
An open letter to my fellow scifi/fantasy writers.
Dear, dear friends:
You are awful. All of you. (Yes, ALL OF YOU!)
Please do not take it personally. But someone has to tell you this, and it might as well be me.
You suffer from three key deficits: LACK OF IMAGINATION, LACK OF EMPATHY, and LACK OF SELF-AWARENESS.
First, your lack of IMAGINATION.
99% of scifi/fantasy novels can be categorized as follows:
a) "Hip", "Modern Day" Fantasy: "diverse" teenagers with magical powers fighting vampires in urban settings.
b) Teenagers suffering deprivation in a post-nuclear wasteland;
c) The so-called "epic" fantasy novel, with "world building" expecting you to learn the history of hundreds of characters, castles, cities and taverns like a History of Art exam.
d) Everyone fighting World War II again, in outer space; and
e) "Hard" scifi, with 500 pages of hand wringing and mental _asturbation about a transmission from an alien sphere (or... if you're feeling imaginative... an alien cube!).
Not only are these topics very, very trite, but your rendition of them is even worse. You're like a bad photocopy machine making worse and worse copies which themselves are bad copies of other copies.
Furthermore, the very dim lightbulb in your head is only bright enough to generate one idea (at most). So if you start out writing stories about Unicorns refighting WW II in outer space, ALL your stories will undoubtedly be about Unicorns refighting WW II in outer space. But, to make it last, you chop it up into nine or ten books with numbers in the title, each of them 250 pages long in big double space print. Maybe in one novel the Unicorn will have a battleship instead of a battlecruiser. Maybe in another the Unicorn will be wearing a funky helmet. But at its base, it will all be the same story. Hence your LACK OF IMAGINATION.
Now for your lack of EMPATHY.
People are easy to please. Really easy. We are all wired to sympathize and empathize with others. That's why we get such a thrill over "shipping", stories of complete strangers having a romance with each other. All you have to do is create characters which are real, relatable, and interesting, and readers will be hooked. It's in our very nature; it's like shooting fish in a barrel.
Unfortunately, you can't even find the barrel. Your characters are all two dimensional, put on this Earth to fulfill a quest. They are little more than video game avatars. Characters are defined by being multifaceted and their relationships to others. But you are clueless about this. You have no idea how to write characters that are interesting to people. All your characters are wooden, or worse, unpleasant, or EVEN WORSE, virtue whores. I'd love for my best friend to be very virtuous, kind, wise, and understanding. But I'd fall asleep reading a book about him. People don't want to read about kind best friends. They want to read about James Bond, Gandalf, and Mr. Spock, characters that are multifaceted and unusual. You don't even have the faintest idea how to create such characters.
(relating back to your LACK OF IMAGINATION).
Lastly, and most importantly, you lack SELF-AWARENESS. And what do I mean by that? You lack the self-awareness to write stories which are entertaining.
If you were to verbally tell someone a story, would you spend ten minutes describing a house or a barn, or what a room full of people were wearing, eating or drinking? Probably not, but you do see pages and pages of this kind of drek in scifi/fantasy novels all the time. My eyes glaze over such things, and I suspect many readers' do too.
The other most common sin writers are guilty of is character bloat, larding their stories with dozens, hundreds, or even thousands of characters, in the belief that populating their world so specifically makes their "world building" feel more "authentic".
It doesn't. It only confuses your readers. But you don't have the self-awareness to realize it.
Tell me, dear friends, when you write a page of dialog, do you ever go back and ask yourself if that page was entertaining, if people might ever want to reread that page even after reading it once? No, you never do. For you, dialog is simply something mechanical, to simply advance the plot, a means to an end rather than an end in itself. Or worse, for many of you, it's simply pages and pages of mindless small-talk, filler to reach your page count. And that's why your writing is painfully stiff and pedantic.
So you write a story where nothing much happens, or maybe a lot happens, but either way you miss the primary point of the story itself--to show a series of dramatic effects on the main characters. Whether your story is "See Jim fly to the stars!" or "Watch Enrique and the Space Marines fight the aliens!" or "Sarah and Johnnie have to get back to the vault before the zombies wake up!", you miss the point of what makes a novel entertaining entirely. It's all about drama. Drama is not merely about things happening to characters, although things do happen to characters. Drama is where characters react to things happening to them in a way that provokes change and reaction from characters. But you can't understand that, because you lack self-awareness.
Most of your books are about PROCESSES, as if you were writing a physics or sociology textbook. World building should be in service to character drama, not the other way around. Most of you spend so much time talking about the minutiae of "how" that you lose sight of drama between characters, which is what drives every story. We don't need to know how hyperdrive or the unicorn kingdom works, we just need to know enough to create a story for characters to interact in.
Unfortunately, you have trained readers to expect bad writing. Readers now EXPECT they will have to plow through hundreds of pages of drek to get to a real story. You have TRAINED them to expect to struggle with your books to try to squeeze some relatable drama from it, and that is why I hate you the most, because you have crapified an entire field of literature. People have come to not only expect your drek, but to demand it!
And so when people, exposed only to a lifetime of your drek, stumble across my books like desert travelers to an oasis, their first reaction is often to blink rapidly and say "What Dat?"
Even from the covers, people can tell my books are different. They don't have meaningless one or two word titles like "Hard Impact" or "Final Conflict" and pictures of tiny stick figures in shadows that look like mannequins surrounded by random explosions. My book descriptions don't have any of the ten buzz phrases people are accustomed to seeing in a book description which say everything and nothing ("full of twists and turns which will keep you glued to your seat!")
And my books are about many different topics. As a result, my books will never be as popular as yours. People want predictability. They want same-ness. They want books with numbers in the title. They feel a fantasy novel can only be "epic" if it's hard to understand and a struggle to read. They want their WW II stories to be filled with stories of grunting space marines firing laser machine guns and throwing laser grenades on enemy positions. They want to read story after story after story about America turned into a desert wasteland filled with zombie mutants.
My stories, on the other hand, simply confuse them. They are about many different topics. There are no laser machine guns blazing away in page after page of meaningless battles between characters we have no reason to care about. My characters definitely are not politically correct. They may not even believe in man-made global warming or fifty four genders. Even WORSE, women are actually attracted to men in my stories and they are not always fighting gender wars with each other (which infuriates the cultural marxists, because to show a sensual woman, in their mind, is to degrade her--women are only to be portrayed from the neck up, in their new unbending manifesto).
And that is why I will never sell as many books as you do.
Thanks so much for that, by the way. You should feel proud that you have lowered an entire genre to mediocrity.
It amazes me that I see all these things I describe above and none of you... none of you do. It's like living on a planet of blind painters, and I'm the only one whose noticed that you ran out of paint a long, long time ago."
Also want to make it clear that the part about eggplants is, in fact, about a passage in one of his books where he says that a lady's breasts have the shape of eggplants. Which is... not the first vegetable I would use to describe boobs? And also not the first sensual description using eggplants i would think of...
@UCMnuXOZP2UUxG4BBKLdqldg can you tell me the author's name, please?
@@evi6629 Was their actually outrage over his usage of "eggplant"?
@@IsomerSoma There were people on twitter making fun of his bad writing, basically.
@@evi6629 Well its a weird discription. Without your remark what it was referring to i was confused.
Michael Crichton hated a critic so badly, he added the critic to a novel of his for the simple reason of making fun of him and insulting him. He got away with this without the critic suiting, because Michael Crichton made mention that the character had a small penis, and that prevented the critic from suiting because suiting him for adding him as a character in his book, would have forced the critic to admit that he in fact had a small penis. It was brilliant.
Great video, HobGobDaniel!
See, this is the wonderful balance between subjectivity and objectivity. People are allowed to feel (like or dislike) whatever story they want, but at the same time, a story’s quality will be a constant: it will always be as good or bad as it ever has been or ever will be. That should give writers both a sense of “let me work hard to write a good book,” and a sense of comfort!
At first I thought the microphone stand was a baseball bat…
I have an idea for the next microphone stand
Then after your idea a sword mic
Yes but like a really long sword like a great sword
@@liamfairbanks4861 How about the dragonslayer from berserk
@@liamfairbanks4861 How about a ridiculously large, Cloud of Final Fantasy sword? With the mic on the pommel so he has to tilt his head up each time he wants to talk into it.
@@bigsiskrishere yes
I love criticism. Hearing "it's good!" Doesnt help with my writing! Why is it good? Do you feel I could improve? Who, to you, should I read to help inspire such improvements? Give me good criticism. Not just say "oh wow it's really good", that ain't helping me! Well helps my ego but then I'll get lol'd in a false sense of confidence.
I live for this editing style don't stop Daniel
Honestly I take any kind of criticism VERY personally and I feel really insecure when I’m criticized BUT I’ve learned to hold it together till I’m in private then I cry but I don’t say anything on social media or to that person’s face. My volleyball coach in eighth grade had a rule that if she did something you didn’t like or if you were cut wait 24 hours then contact her so you had time to relax and pull yourself together.
I used to be a fairly active webcomic creator. I remember one negative review I got and I still to this day think they misunderstood what the comic was, assuming it had a much younger readership than it actually did.
I was honestly a little annoyed, so I get where the frustration can come from, but I didn't try to argue with that reviewer. I thanked them for giving the time to go through my whole archive to write that review and then secretly hoped to myself that nobody would read it.
The sites hosting both the comic and the review are long gone now, btw. I don't even remember the reviewer's name at this point, so I don't mind talking about it. At the time though? I kept those thoughts to myself and a couple of close friends I knew wouldn't do anything about it.
You have quickly become one of my favorite people. I started reading again while in Hawaii last month; read beowulf while there. Got home read the hobbit now I'm 100 pages into dragonbone chair. You remind me a lot of Ethan Becker; aggressively wholesome is the game I like to be apart of.
That point on negative reviews helping is so true! I've read reviews before that have been negative where the reviewer says they didn't like that the thing did, for example, some trope or another and I've looked at that thinking "this reviewer didn't like it but that trope is my jam I'd probably be interested."
Or alternatively it's been something that I won't mind while the positive reviews point out things I'm interested in.
I feel like every video is just Daniel slowly moving closer and closer to insanity.
Sanity is highly overrated.
Ah come on he's just being himself and relaxing. For a Goblin this is relaxed.
@@aix83 Ah yes, you're right. For a goblin, this isn't insanity.
Daniel's intros are on a different level that none of us can ever hope to achieve
I will never grow up Daniel Greene and YOU CAN’T MAKE ME
🤣🤣
There are so many good quotes in here that better become memes, if it doesn’t happen I’ll do it myself.
I'm terrible at taking criticism. I end up fuming all day and it ruins me. Then I start imagining scenarios where I own them some way or another. It ends up being super unproductive.
But even I have the self-control not to engage with my critics, DM them, harass them, etc! That's a win for them and a loss for me!
I think authors should not respond to critics or reviewers PERIOD.
Unless they thank the reviewers for reviewing or critiquing or something.
Because at the end of they day they are just people on the internet and YOU are the one with the product, the fanbase, and the reputation to protect.
My highest aspiration is to become successful enough that Daniel makes a video absolutely eviscerating me and my entire being.
I learned a long time ago to not take criticism personally, regardless on how it's given. Criticisms are just opinions, some are valid, some may not be. I learned that if I look at criticism in an objective way I can often find ways to improve even from poorly delivered criticism. This of course means that alot of honest self reflection must be done.
Daniel at the start of the video: *Reject humanity, return to goblin!*
If someone is just insulting, without giving any worthwile critique (e.g. "this sucks, you am bad!") ... thosr people aren't worth your time.
If they offer actual points ("you am bad, because this plot is cluttered and nonsensical"), then one can atleast start to get something out of it
0:00 The Goblin host just turned into the Spiderman host XD
Hey man, don't take it personally. For some of us, having our parents pretend to love us was the closest we ever got to parents. You don't get to choose your parents.
Honestly though, I deeply appreciate what you do on this channel. Thank you, Daniel. Plenty of us choose to love you, and that means more.
My parents don't even pretend..
@@ChristmasLore I feel for you, they sound like garbage people. But we shouldn't put any stock in the people we get by genetic lottery. Nobody gets to choose their blood kin. The good news is that we do get to choose the people who are in our lives outside of them. We get to have a chosen family. Plus, we CAN (eventually) choose to NOT have them in our lives. I've claimed half a state as my territory and my blood kin are not allowed to live within it. I have found that having a buffer of a few hundred miles between us does wonders for my general enjoyment of life.
Daniel coming closer to the screen and whispering/asking if I loved the video is EVERYTHING!!
As a Fanfic writer I encourage criticism of all kinds. Because their hatred makes me stronger.
Fanfic writers have more strength than actual authors. Y'all welcome critics and criticism and you all respond to nicely too.
@@avsambart I think you romanticize us too much, but thank you for the compliment. Some of us get really salty, but I don't take many things personally.
You are an absolutely, unmitigated, uncontested - beyond a shadow of the deepest darkest hell of doubt - a wonderful guy. And I hope you fester away in a pool of never ending success.
Daniel! Man, you are hilarious. I like your delivery and I enjoy your content. Thank you for your art and your time.
Again dropping prescient advice based on careful loving insight delivered out of the side of your mouth while restraining a scream, your passion is compelling Daniel and your content is substantial. Well said.
i went and read that Amazon bio, and. oh boy. someone thought those words. with their brain. and then typed them. and hit 'publish'. what a world
i stan the hat though
The fans are killing art. The evidence is all around.
Artists of almost all mediums have been compromised, at best, and driven to quit at worst.
If you don't like someone's art, stay away from it, but no one has the right to tell anyone else how to create.
Make your own, if you have a problem.
Yep. Authors not taking criticism. Story for the ages, ain't it. /s
I found the comment to be poorly constructed and completely unnecessary.
To be fair, if you're bordering on or being full on insulting, then don't be suprised an author's gonna get defensive.
People will not listen to you if you attack them. Same goes for debates.
@@Halo_Legend forgot the tone indicator. Author myself I was just fooling around. 😅
I do sometimes worry about very conscientious creators taking on board *too much* criticism. Well, it takes a lot of critical thinking to try and figure out why exactly someone doesn't like a book, and whether it is something that is worth changing, or whether it is really just an artistic choice and/or disagreement about what makes a story 'good' in the first place.
When it comes to craft, there are probably still things you can learn, and it's well worth considering these criticisms and trying to understand where it comes from. But you'll also get criticism from people who weren't really part of your target audience to begin with. If you try to appeal to everyone, you may end up sacrificing more than you gain.
I guess I'm worried that talented creators, in an effort to become more popular, might inadvertently water down the unique voice that could have brought them success.
Facts. It’s never ok to throw your fans at critics. It’s unprofessional and devalues literature as a whole.
Wait who is that author he is talking about though? Asking for a friend
Gary lm Martin . If you check his Amazon page out boy oh boy it's a wild ride.
I hate this channel because I can only subscribe once and can only place a single like per video. Otherwise, it's a majestic item of perfection on this platform.
I like to think that somewhere out there there’s an author that made a really complicated book and realized it’s really complicated/hard to understand so he/she spent a lot of time trying to clarify things and everyone’s just like “no no no. it’s all right, we just don’t get it”
The book isn't even that good, there's just a giant community who's trying really hard to make sense of everything happening.
@@Cogu985 Did someone say „The Last Jedi“?
Helpful video, even for those not in publishing. I will make a suggestion: the number one rule should be to not threaten someone with severe bodily harm and/death. I know that can be folded into rule #2, "don't sic your audience on the critic," but I feel it's a significant enough difference to be it's own rule.
I think this is the best intro yet =)))
I'm just a hobby author so I have no idea what it would be like to get hundreds of criticisms but I have an honest question.
What would a critique look like that changes your writing? For me - I know what I want to write in my book and if I don't want it, I don't write it so I don't know what a critique could say that makes me go "I never considered that! I will change that about my work!". The only reason an author would change how he writes is (and maybe I'm overlooking something) that he can sell more books because more people like it when it's written differently. But I wouldn't assume that writers are in it for the money, for the most part at least.
*whispers in a trance* : Imma give you a little like, cause I dont mind
Very true! But criticism should also be respectful. Saying, 'I didn't like the book' or 'this plot element is a little weak' is a criticism that needs to be respected, even reflected upon. Saying 'this book is garbage from a terrible author' really isn't. It's just mean behaviour
That opening caught me off guard and I laughed out loud so hard 😂 Thank goodness I have the house to myself today!
As an aspiring writer, and one who suffers from RSD (Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria) I'm terrified of having to deal with criticism. On one hand, I understand that part of being a writer means having your work critiqued, and that listening to criticism is the best way to improve. On the other hand, people on the internet are cruel and I get upset if I get even the sense that someone is remotely disappointed in me. It's a tightrope walk for sure.
You're funny, selfaware and always so rational and it's refreshing to hear rants like these.
Negative reviews as good publicly is so true. There are people who I only read things they don't like (and typically avoid things they like).
You really need both positive and negative. That's what Good taught me ;)
The intro… the FIT! THIS is the Internet I signed up for!
But yeah. I know the Internet is a different beast and people can be unnecessarily cruel with their critique, but I actually get a little anxious if I haven’t had ANY constructive criticism at work in a while. 🤷♀️
Just because one person doesn't like a piece of literature doesn't mean others will feel the same. I personally really don't like Outlander, but I have a lot of family members and friends who became obsessed. I enjoy looking at negative reviews for books I love because it lets me look more critically at the book, and enjoy it that much more. Embrace the criticism, accept it, and grow! Writing in itself is a labor of love.
As someone who didn't love Breach of Peace as much as I hoped I would - every time I hear you talk about the response and how you are using that to improve, I cannot wait for book 2! Holy Run on sentence Batman
Can anyone share those examples of literature that Daniel mentioned. (Where it took decades for the audience to realise the value of the work.)
Most famous example I know is Moby Dick didn’t sell well at first and received several strongly negative reviews from established critics.
Don quixote really blew up after the author died i think too.
Pretty sure the picture of dorian gray. Which was revieved negative for the author too.
Mozard i think, as artist , was disliked a lot.
Drakula and journey to the west?! Who were controvertial?!
That would be to look up,a video?!
Im not just saying this because Im a Malazan fanboy but Erikson's "Rant" on characterization is probably the best example of an author responding to criticism that Im aware of, he may have come across as a little condescending during the post, but whats most important is that he focussed on the criticism, not the critics. So many people seem to develop a personal vindictiveness towards their critics whether its through generalizing anyone who dosent like their work or singling out and targeting individuals. It was great to see an author arguing against the actual points critics were trying to make rather than them as people.
Daniels use of green screne is perfect. Beautiful. Masterful.
“How did you get in touch with my family” 😂
There is another time when "fuck those people" is the correct attitude: when a review attacks the author personally instead of the work. Of course, the author has to be able to identify those accurately and not take criticism of the work as personal.
This is actually a skill of the modern creative world, and not one everyone naturally has. Some psychologist could probably make a fortune creating a course to emotionally cope well while sorting useful criticism from personal attacks/feedback that can't be used constructively, because while I do think authors now have the responsibility to do this, oof, I get that it's hard.
I see that Daniel has gone the Gus Johnson school of taping his mic to random objects.
Honestly, if anything, I'd apologise to the critic for them not enjoying my work, I'd ask them for tips for the future and thank them for taking the time. That's the best you can do IF you wanna get into contact with them in the first place.
Same goes for TV show writers and movie writers - for *every writer* actually. 😒
The intensity of this video is on a whole different level, I found myself furiously agreeing to everything while feeling very attacked at the same time. Not sure how I feel right now but I know I ain't mad lol.
I like seeing Daniel holding a stick of dynamite while telling people how to be a respectable person XD
Dude been watching your channel since 2018, and now to get see the "Real" Daniel come out is just pure gold 🤣
One of two things I've noticed with insults from people in terms of criticism. The first one is people have baseless criticism because they are expressing their upset anger over something else and or they're trying to gain attention. And the second one is that they actually have a real criticism that can be addressed utilizing the material at hand whether or not someone understands something or if there's even a pothole the original author doesn't actually see because let's face it sometimes people think differently than others. In the first case being as I'm not an author but someone who has been on the receiving end of insults / criticism I like reading these from unintelligible to incredibly clever. The more clever someone is the more credit I give them. I make it a rule not to get into it in the comment section with people if they're in the unintelligible section. And I'm not above posting articles to people if they really want to get into a discussion about something. People can understand things better but a really clever criticism is just really funny and can actually brighten one's day if you break it down to what it really is.
I usually take criticism well, but sometimes I'm already exhausted and criticism makes me feel really bad, so I just cry a lot
let's be honest, it's easier to critique something than creating it.
But I think these weird responses to critique are probably associated with a hard time differentiating their work from themselves. Your worth is not related to what you produce even if it's to the absolute best of your abilities. Because there is some fragility in failing from maximum effort compared to framing it as a practice piece or having experienced some more into a creative career.
It's actually a very introspective topic & one I think a lot about. /All the best ^^
Edit; Broken English
Yeah, critics do need to be willing to admit that their criticism's might be objectively bad as well. Writing a review is a creative work, and some people suck at it.
As a university professor. It’s quite disappointing that so many 18-25 year olds cannot take criticism when it comes to anything, whether it is writing, statistics, etc. even when I was industry and had to give verbal warnings or written warnings to staff that are coaching opportunities. It’s quite sad that in today’s society people are just awful and taking any time of constructive criticism or even just suggestion for edits in an ungraded rough draft.
Damn Daniel, the more subs you get, the crazier you seem to become. I like it.
As responses to criticism go, how do you rate Kendrick Lamar putting Geraldo Rivera's criticism as the intro to a music video immediately followed by the lyrics "fuck your life"?