EXPERT insight into the QUALITY of Aston Villa's sweat-soaked Castore shirts
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2024
- Football shirt designer and all round kit expert Rob Warner joins us on the podcast to discuss the quality of Aston Villa's shirts which we've seen dripping with sweat in matches so far.
Castore: “There has been some media speculation about a potential issue in the football kit supplied by Castore to Aston Villa Football Club. We are working closely in collaboration with the club to address this issue as quickly as possible to meet the standards we expect. We would like to thank the club for their patience and support to date.”
"As a proud new British brand, we always hold ourselves to the highest of standards and strive to do everything we can to constantly improve the performance of our products. This means addressing any customer concerns with promptness and humility.”
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Rob is a quality bloke 👍
Sitting and listening to an expert talk their shit is litetally timelessly good content. Thank you mate, and a massive thank you to Rob.
Great show, Rob did a quality job educating us all on footy shirts 👕
Great to be able to have such expert insight on this.
Also interesting to read that AVFC Women are also very concerned about wearing the kit before Sunday’s game. This is pretty bad PR for all.
The women always have something to complain about 🤦♂️
@@floydwetherton3710 L
@@floydwetherton3710 They have a lot more right to complain about having to wear wet t-shirts than the men do tbf.
@@PvtVallen I disagree. Yet another example of why men and women are not the same and shouldn’t be treated as such. However they wanted to be treated as such, so this really shouldn’t be taken seriously apart from the tops holding onto to much sweat. That’s the men’s complaint and it’s more than a fair complaint.
The rest of it is just women being women. Would they rather play in a baggy tracksuit 🤷♂️
@@PvtVallen No not at all. Plenty of men suffer with gyno which could cause the nips to be on show 🤷♂️ don’t see them complaining
thanks claret&blue for having Rob nerding out about football shirts
top content
By the way, even though l am seething over these new Kits like l was when they were first introduced, this Pod was very informative and thanks to ol mate for dropping in and explaining the fabric types and where there made. l like shows like this, it helps us tragic fans understand a little more of the understandings of Club business where our opinion does count because we all want the best for our players and club.
Good Pod Dan.
Thanks Dan, Rob. The detailed explanation was very interesting.
Not sure if you heard, but Newcastle fans complained about the poor quality of their Castore shirts. The club recognized that the material was inferior and they quickly reacted, cancelled their contract and moved on.
My question is, why didn't the Villa react to what they could see with their own eyes. Its now Sept 28th and the club is only doing something about it now. Not good enough, its embarrassingly unprofessional in my opinion especially as now national media are talking about it 🤦♀️
Its the same reason why we are happy to have BK8 as the main shirt sponsor, even though Norwich got rid of them swiftly when their fans spoke up. Money talks.
Europe(3rd tier version)has been used to blind supporters with optimism. Hype up the eagerly anticipated return to that competition, while dishing out an inferior product eleswheres. Jump on the bandwagon, but notice the subtle nuances at the same time. This week alone, talk of another new club badge. Kits that are a lower pro standard that Under Armour/Luke/Kappa. Olsen, Dendoncker, Tielemans, over Philogene Bidace, Carney and Archer.
Kesler Hayden should be around for nights like yesterday. Barry and Finn Azaz too. To mass produce a fit for purpose sporting garment takes months/years. When the object of the club is to make money, quality and standards gets pushed to the side. What track record do Castore have in the marketplace? What kind of relationship did Gerrard have with the brand? Rangers had Castore also. Unprofessionalism spreads faster than the alternative. Short sighted money grabs
Great show lads. I would add that the kits should launch 2 weeks before the season. When the 3rd kit (which is usually the most interesting or unique or fashionable) comes out in mid September, your shirt is going to be out of date by May, then it really makes the price hurt a bit more knowing that it will only be used for 3-4 games and only for 8 months rather than the full year.
Thanks for the clarification Dan, much appreciated as always 👍
Big fan of @TheKitBreakdown with Rob and Craig 🙌🏽 Fascinating chat
Would love to see more episodes like this, very insightful and interesting
Total disgrace, bin Castore off ASAP for breach of contract.
I just hope the club weren’t trying to profiteer by ordering a poor low quality shirt to make a huge profit from it. I would like to think not.
What terms did they breach in the contract?
@@cecilsspecialsI would imagine poor quality, not fit for purpose.
Newcastle received complaints from fans, after a review they recognized that the material was inferior and they cancelled their contract with Castore.
You make a good point about the cooling system of the shirt as we head into the autumn and winter and this could affect performance
There's a story on BBC, that our women's WSL team are dreading the first match of they're new season on Sunday, due to the kits! Not good enough from Castore!! Surely either last seasons kit (with new crest sown on) r a retro style, just for the opening matches been used. Our women's team had a great season last year, this kind of crap is a momentum killer!!😡 #UTV
Wet T-shirts, might be the first woman’s football match I will watch! 😬
Love the variety of quality contacts you get involved. Great work.
I was sick when I heard we where signing with Castore, I love Villa but we seem to have a(@ board level) a weird love with lesser brands (e.g the likes ofAsics, DIADORA, Macron) I mean we have never had an Adidas kit!?! TBH I've been hoovering up the retro kits over buying the oficial kit!! #UTV 👊
Spot on trying to maximise profit just get addidas in you might make less but there prooven consistent quality plus swahiris is a shareholder in addidas so it makes sense
I remember Rob's 'Why we should beat' articles on Villatalk 20 odd years ago! Top bloke👍
Great guest, his kids sound brilliant “they support Aston Villa, not some iPhone”.
I used to mow lawns for 25 years and I learned to wear hi wool socks against the skin and cotton over, and the wool was always dry and the sweat was always on the cotton
phenomenal insight ... cheers Rob .. Dan .. back to Nappy changing !!
Rob is top class
Someone needs to connect Rob to Christopher Heck or someone at the club.
We have heard talk of wanting to raise our levels across the club which I agree with. Which means raising our expectations so the objective would be to aim for a 'standard of excellence' in all areas and in my opinion Rob fits that bill.
Thank you 🫶
Would love an adidas Villa kit
It won't happen because of the owner having shares in addidas.
Been waiting for this!
Great listen 👍🏻👍🏻
Newcastle have binned castore off early and are going with Adidas next season
Massive turnaround nice job Mr Emery a few kinks in the centre of defence needs to be ironed out pau Torres distribution is excellent he's a little sluggish though
He strikes me as a pure long ball playing defender. Seems to be able to pick out a pass but his defending still needs a little work. Seems to be the polar opposite to mings. Defensively he's a unit but his passing leaves a little to be desired sometimes. Let's hope pau will settle with time take a lead from konsas book defensively
Why then arnt Newcastle and Wolves having problems
Good segment. Informative.
With the amount of money put into shirts shouldn`t they have been tested correctly before dispatch, was quality control on holiday ?
It looks like the finish is on the wrong side and moisture is being trapped. The worst so far was in Florida with 90% humidity and in Poland in high 20 heat. Seems worse on the claret material, maybe it's ok on the away and 3rd kit. Seen some Chelsea shirts in similar state made by Nike, in the weekend game but it was less noticeable on the blue. Feel a bit sorry for Castore and hope they can sort it.
Tweet of the week from Bardell's mate Cgris Dolan. While we were getting dumped out of the league cup at home to everton he remarked that we may win the wet t shirt trophy this season.
Great job. Thanks Dan, for getting Rob on, perfect SME to discuss the issue. Great to hear your insight Rob.
Yeah! Reminds me of the government, when they say something is good for ya people start dying. Like sheep one so called "expert" says his scrpt and the sheep follow withot doing one iota of research. Seat is largely consists of Liquid body fat, Fat is Energy, an athlete with low body needs to allow the body to breathe, losing excess sweat the energy level drops dramatically. Fans say the players have looked Leggy, Tired, do you need more info my friend or do you get it. Your answer is why? Money find the biggest earners, sponsers, manufactures etc backed by bullshit salesmen like this Lizard, who is the sponser of this podcast? who else wears the kit? Fans, do you see it yet
What a CV!
Great insight to shirts again, loved the video 😎
Seems like it’s only Villa’s shirt material that has this issue??!!Looking at Wolves, Newcastle and England Cricket teams, they do not appear to have this problem…..
Liking Robs Canadian flag on his jacket
Great insight into the sweaty kit fiasco. UTV
Someone at Castore obviously didn't test the strip properly
Best guest
Its not even about just looking bad. Running for 90 minutes in a soaking shirt at 4 degrees is gonna get someone ill. Sending the women's team out on Sunday in this kit is gonna be a pr disaster as well.
Add the bad sponsor, worse badge, higher price, and it looking like a Burnley copy mustve lowered sales enough to cancel out a lot of the penny pinching
Fantastic show. Excellent insights.
Dont think we will have Castore next season 😂
Castore need dropping asap
Great pod!
I thought this would be boring as flip but not at all. Great episode.
Rob was very interesting
I wouldn’t deal with Castore anymore. The lack of quality assurance is shocking - that quality assurance should have been done in the summer including trials. How would these feel in the winter where wet clingy shirts does not provide insulation? Shame that Villa players had to complain to get this moving.
Bring back Luke kits 🟣🔵
I WISH Luke came back! 😭
Has anyone noticed similar issues with other Castore teams? (Wolves, Rangers, Newcastle I think all wear Castore kits 🤔). Surely the fabric on pro shirts for these clubs will be the same?
From what I've seen it's not been an issue for Emi also so why did they change the material from goalie to the main kit?
@@haydarali6249Keepers obviously exert themselves less than outfield players. It's one reason why a good number of the play past 37/38.
Have never complained about a kit before in my life, but this seasons home kit (and third kit!) is just so disgustingly ugly.
To go with these quality issues, as well, Castore just need to go. Use the training kits if we can't switch supplier mid season.
I can't argue too much with what you've said, these are possibly some of the worst kits I've ever seen Villa produce to be honest! And this should be the beginning of a new era for our great club! 🙈 🤦🏾♂️ 🙄
Wolves and Newcastle use the same supplier.. So how come the same material hasn't being used across the board?
Different colours are a factor
Short term solution… Bin off Castore, get Luke in, and use the old template from their kits that we know works.
Why are they changing the crest again?! It's class!
To boring, to similar to Chelsea, we can have better.
Chris Heck wasn't too happy with it! Plans only seemed to change when he came in! Coincidence? I think not! 😭
@@joshuajones1793 Yeah I'm really not sure about Mr Heck.
Mr Sawiris... get Adidas on the blower quick!!!
A few months back Ireland announced Castore as their kit supplier. On Instagram about 90% of the fans didn’t want Castore due to the poor design and quality and it was expensive compared to the previous supplier Umbro. The only way out is for fans to boycott buying their products.
This shirt seems to have a ‘satin’ finish (for want of a better term) to the material, so in IMO this would add to the ‘wet look’. This type of finish I would expect to be more ‘clingy’ too, which would feel horrible when wet and deformed not something you’d want. Clearly the material appears to not be the suitable for the job at hand. On a funny note, it would be funny to see a fan throw the shirt back when a player donates it to a fan! (Joke obvs!).
The Italy kit Rob designed in 06 was a beauty. I owned that one. It never actually looked wet like this Villa shirt though.
We had Castore last season with no complaints from the players. What's changed?
Rob mentioned that last years shirts were made in Turkey, this in China. Could be a different process despite it being the same brand and hence this years quality just isn’t as good
@@ClaretBluePodmoved production to China to get it manufactured on the cheap... Up the cost of the shirt to fans! Sounds about right with ticket issues and hospitality areas! 😂
No Adidas! Johan Cryff refused to wear the three Adidas stripes on his shirt during the 1974 World Cup; his shirt had two stripes. He knew they were a dodgy company involved in nefarious activities.
Castore needs to be binned ASAP, Villa needs to be fully compensated, and a new shirt made NOW-drop all else and prioritise a new shirt. In the meantime last season or Luke shirts can be worn.
I also have to consider why did has happened to Villa; is it deliberate, because we may be a threat to the so called 'big 6' clubs.
Good insite.
Spent 85 pound on a martinez shirt and they spelt the name wrong🤦♂
Wolves and Newcastle wear Castore... I wonder if they have the same problem?
15:29 BREAKING ASTON VILLA ARE SET TO TERMINATE CASTORE FROM NEXT SEASON
Didn't do them any harm yesterday. That was a great result for you lot. Not looking forward to playing you guys this season
Have Castore made a statement?
Yes it’s in the podcast description.
Finally it gets noticed.. they look like they have been dipped in Vaseline 😳
Soon as I saw the design I knew it was a downgrade.
Last years kits were so nice compared to this years
Bring back the Nike kits
Yes! doubt it will happen tho as our owners own a percentage of adidas
Err, don’t want Nike anywhere near my club.
Worst kits we've ever had . Can't wait for castore to do one . But just hope a good brand is around the corner as I said this when we had kappa
aside from the terrible quality the design for the villa kits have been devoid of creativity for a very very long time
I love the new badge but yeah the kit looks awful
Great is naff stick to tradistion lion face back to way he always faced and the word prepard,back ,lion should be gold but with claret filed ,and gold text aways ,villa are gold, get addidas it crap shirt,
They gave the contract to the cheapest bidder, not the best bidder
i have a theory stevie had a word with them to screw us over after he got canned last year.
Moral of this story as is the moral of many a story, is that if you want something made with quality, *don't have it made in China!*
Read today that the women who kick off this Sunday are very concerned about it
Ant see why we’re struggling with it? Just respecify the material and make some more. In the scheme of things it’s peanuts and I’m sure they all know what arsenals, Chelsea’s and Man U’s materials are
Bring back Luke qualliry apparel
Just get last seasons shirts, they must be around Villa somewhere
Isn't Gerrard a shareholder and mates with the people who own Castore?
Wonder if they've done us dirty on purpose. 😂
And sabotage their brand reputation, hardly.
It's not the shirt quality why we lost today 😕
It will get changed as soon as the woman team kick off its going to a wet t-shirt contest 😂😂
Might actually be worth watching.
Made in China, What does one expect, Purslow decided in his infinite wisdom to go on the cheap and save the club a few hundred bucks, this is outrageous.
Pull the contract with Castore immediately because if this is having an affect on player performance over the cheaply made kits, then the club must take action immediately.
If NSWE has a hold on the making and production side of the New Kits then they should be ropable... as a Villa fan l am !!!
All the good kits are made in china too
@@owenrodgers8020 Last season kits were made in Turkey, at least it's on the continent and not in China .. why on earth cant they be made in the UK ??
It’s what happens when you get a fashion brand make your shirt instead of a sports brand!!!! Bring back reebok
What can go wrong if your CEO is 33 years old. Their whole schtick was they would have production in europe to respond to clubs demands but seem to have shifted to China. Clear misrepresentation to investors. FTXesque.
Powers that be - "How do we slow down a team on the rise that we hate, I know, we'll tell & pay their kit suppliers to make it extra heat provoking so they sweat alot more, dehydrate & tire out faster, job done, they'll never know" lol Simplest answer is usually the right one.✌🏼
That's not a simple answer. A moronic one maybe.
You genuinely can't rule this out but most likely is a manufacturing issue, perhaps Castore have a new supplier and somehow QA has not been done properly.
But I don’t want guitar lesson
😂😂
Fans need to be realistic with their expectations of their clubs, if you want things to change vote with your wallet.
Crux of the problem.....Greed!
I can't help feeling this is the root cause
Get rid of Castore
Absolute DIGRACE!! Embarrassing beyond belief, Villa Women shud point blank REFUSE to wear kit! In light of #MeToo and rampant sexist behaviour in Spanish Football! To Make Villa women wear this kit for next 4 games is scandalous and a National Disgrace! VILLA and the whole of UK sport should bin this kit immediately! The Sporting World will watch if Villa women are forced to wear this joke kit against their very real concerns! 🙏
Chinese junk yet again cost abut 2 quid to make.
Castore is Manchester based. Made there I think although an Indian group are major shareholders so I'd imagine a lot is made in India. Castore on 8 years old so will be some learning issues and there's a good chance they are actually using a really light and more expensive material that is just not suited
@@seismicgoalkeeping3383 if you listen to interview last seasons kits were made in Turkey this years were made in China.
@@seismicgoalkeeping3383also the expert literally said they moved it from Turkey to China 17min in
@haydarali6249 yeah I got to that part after. Less sympathy for them now. Probably for speed of automation more than labour costs but, still there's not much that comes out of there that works well.
Kit material 75% polyester, 25% elastane. LOL there is nothing to see here, inorganic material, bad for the human body. Test yourself, wear a Villa Shirt on holiday then try a 100% Cotton Shirt, a natural material. Weight of the material make sit bad to worse period. You never should wear this garbage. He will not say it is crap, he would be biting the hand that fed him. 100% Cotton is the answer to any sport shirt when body heat is high.....This guy is talking bollocks
You what?
@@imightbewrong_ ???
Cancel the contract, goods are not fit for the purpose intended.
Agreed! 💯
going to be interesting if the women have to wear it
There's an article on the BBC about the women taking issue with it. Gonna be a pr nightmare on Sunday when it looks like Villa started a wet t-shirt contest before the match
Just cancel the woman’s team if they refuse to wear.